How to brighten a slightly muddy B3?
dee_s...@my-deja.com
money at my Hammond. I feel as though the sound on my Hammond is a bit
muddy (1965 B3), it's not bad but it could be better. I have replaced
all generator caps and resistors,
rebuilt the vibrato line box and replaced all preamp tubes.
Additionally, the Leslie's amp has been rebuilt and the tubes have been
replaced.
My question is, should I replace the upper driver in the Leslie,
rebuild the organ's preamp, or "fill in the blank"? Any suggestions
would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Before you buy.
Donald R. Resor
Preamp, and Amplifier first then listened....
A tone generator re-cap can make it screechy done wrong, and the Vibrato
Line Box has little effect on the overall quality of the organ's sound.
There is also a Tone Control adjustment on the preamp, just think of the
money could have saved if you adjusted that first... Lastly if this still
doesn't work, I recommend a box of Q-Tip Cotton Swabs.
Donald R. Resor
http://go.to/tonewheels
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box and replaced all preamp tubes. >>
Why in the hell would you replace ALL of the red MYLAR caps in a 1965 B3?
Didn't you get some advice before you started this project? Chances are, the
caps in the vibrato line box and (most of) the original tubes were just fine.
If this is actually a 65 B3 and it was in good shape cosmetically and
mechanically, you have reduced it's value by at least $1000!
<< Additionally, the Leslie's amp has been rebuilt and the tubes have been
replaced. >>
The 6550 outputs probably needed to be replaced. Routine service would have
taken care of any other Leslie problems. Later Leslie amps usually don't
need a complete rebuild.
<< My question is, should I replace the upper driver in the Leslie, rebuild
the organ's preamp, or "fill in the blank"? >>
This is where you should have started. The horn driver is the "weak link" in
Leslies. However, a "stretched" resistor or two in the preamp can cause a
"muddy" problem.
<< Any suggestions would be appreciated. >>
Hopefully you saved the original generator caps...
Harvey Olsen
Musicville, Inc.
Bull...@aol.com
dee_s...@my-deja.com writes:
<<
My question is, should I replace the upper driver in the Leslie,
rebuild the organ's preamp, or "fill in the blank"? Any suggestions
would be appreciated.
>>
Have you tried adjusting the tone control on the B-3 pre-amp ??
Peter D Abrams
> Hopefully you saved the original generator caps...
>
> Harvey Olsen
> Musicville, Inc.
...And remembered where they all came from/where they all will go back
to.
A '65. For cryin out loud. (and I am)
pda
Jax Fl.
Stan Curtis
THING AT A TIME> I'm sorry but if you carry on with this random approach
you'll be changing the cabinet next to see if that gives you more "top"
Of course if you were a hi-fi buff you would be changing the power cable by
now.
Seriously though, you've been given some good advice on this site so make
use of it.
Stan
"Donald R. Resor" <}{amm...@theatreorgans.com> wrote in message
news:005501c05015$7154ebe0$940ac840@donaldresor...
> Now this is where you get "buyer's remorse" you should have rebuilt the
> Preamp, and Amplifier first then listened....
>
> A tone generator re-cap can make it screechy done wrong, and the Vibrato
> Line Box has little effect on the overall quality of the organ's sound.
> There is also a Tone Control adjustment on the preamp, just think of the
> money could have saved if you adjusted that first... Lastly if this
still
> doesn't work, I recommend a box of Q-Tip Cotton Swabs.
>
> Donald R. Resor
> http://go.to/tonewheels
>
> From: <dee_s...@my-deja.com>
>
> I would like a little advice from anyone out there before I throw more
> money at my Hammond. I feel as though the sound on my Hammond is a bit
> muddy (1965 B3), it's not bad but it could be better. I have replaced
> all generator caps and resistors,
> rebuilt the vibrato line box and replaced all preamp tubes.
> Additionally, the Leslie's amp has been rebuilt and the tubes have been
> replaced.
>
> My question is, should I replace the upper driver in the Leslie,
> rebuild the organ's preamp, or "fill in the blank"? Any suggestions
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
dee_s...@my-deja.com
turned all the way up (that was the first thing I did). The Leslie's
amp was rebuilt out of necessity, it died during a gig. By the way, I
am trying one thing at a time (this work has taken place over the last
two years).
The filter caps were replaced as per Goff Professional's advice, they
recommended performing that job over a preamp rebuild. The new filter
caps resulted in a noticeable but subtle improvement. So I'll pose the
question again, what's more likely to contribute to a slightly muddy
sound the treble driver or the organ's preamp?
Thanks again and for the record my hearing is fine.
Stan Curtis
people out there with Hammonds with past sell-by capacitors and a sound that
hums like the Queen Mary's turbines. They look at you and say "what hum ?"
I've also met plenty of people with dead Leslie drivers. The horns rotate
but no sound comes out but since the bass is great they don't miss the horn.
IMEX the horn driver either works or it doesn't. If the voice coil rubs
there is a drop of output but not for long because the diaphragm assembly
soon fails. Try disconnecting one wire to check if the horn driveris still
working. If there is output from the horn but not enough remember to check
the crossover components in the Leslie amp. The ones feeding the horn. It
is always possible that the capacitor has gone high resistance
Stan
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Magnus Enorson
> The filter caps were replaced as per Goff Professional's advice
Did you tell them it was a '65?
of course some people may disagree, but I have _never_ heard
_anyone_ recommend changing the mylar capacitors; the general
consensus is that they are as good as they come. The re-cap is
only recommended for instruments featuring the older wax
capacitors.
/Magnus
Dennis M. Wage
I know there have been threads about this piece of cotton, but I would like to know more about it. I have experimented and a piece of cotton in the horn will do just about exactly the same thing as the treble control on the A0-28. The bigger the piece of cotton, the more treble that is cut.
Was is piece of cotton there just to keep out dirt or was it there for some kind of treble suppression?
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Subject: [HAM] How to brighten a slightly muddy B3?
> I would like a little advice from anyone out there before I throw more
> money at my Hammond. I feel as though the sound on my Hammond is a bit
> muddy (1965 B3), it's not bad but it could be better. I have replaced
> all generator caps and resistors,
> rebuilt the vibrato line box and replaced all preamp tubes.
> Additionally, the Leslie's amp has been rebuilt and the tubes have been
> replaced.
>
> My question is, should I replace the upper driver in the Leslie,
> rebuild the organ's preamp, or "fill in the blank"? Any suggestions
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Tony
> Did you tell them it was a '65? of course some people may disagree, but I
have _never_ heard _anyone_ recommend >changing the mylar capacitors; the
general consensus is that they are as good as they come. The re-cap is only
>recommended for instruments featuring the older wax capacitors.
I have posted my opinion on the sound of the cap kit before on this but this
is from Goff's cap-kit literature.
"The original matched (brown) wax or (red) styrene filter capacitors mounted
on the top of the tonewheel generator were originally built ofr an
operational life of 10 to 15 years."
From that literature statement one would deduct that all organs need recaps?
Though probably 90 or more would keep red caps, how long can they last? It
is over 30 years now. 40? 50 years ? They can't last forever or can they as
some think? Do the red caps sounds truly as original or have they drifted
too? Some may want an *as new* original sound thus new caps.
Tony
Tony
Thats 90 per cent or more obviously
Tony
Wayne L Dutrow
> The filter caps were replaced as per Goff Professional's advice
>
> Did you tell them it was a '65?
What year did Hammond begin using Mylar?
Wayne Dutrow
Tony
theyrecommended performing that job over a >preamp rebuild. The new filter
caps resulted in a >noticeable but subtle improvement.
And that was the *correct* advice.
No offense, then why don't you email Goff and ask him rather than getting
bullshit myth advice about caps from 2nd and 3rd stringers.
Ask Goff via email, I understand he answers emails, 95 percent of what you
read about caps in these Internet groups is bullshit by a little handful of
'experts' who feel they have the consenus on that tech issue who probably
have had 1 or 2 per cent of his customers.
Actually, after a cap kit has been correctly installed it is the skilled
pro musician's ear that determines its sound qualities or lack thereof not
electronic appliance techs. Goff has a formidable long list of noted pros
who use that kit in their organs. Organs being on many CDs.
The kit in a Hammond console I have renders it by far the best sounding
Hammond I have and that is the opinion of 100 per cent of all the players I
have had in my personal studio that I have asked as I have been mystified by
this argument.
(Not affilitated with Goff or know him personally)
Tony
HOlse...@aol.com
and 3rd stringers. >>
And just who are the "2nd and 3rd stringers" you are referring too?
Harvey Olsen
Musicville, Inc.
dee_s...@my-deja.com
actual advice. I didn't think my question would evoke such criticism.
I did email Goff about this issue. They recommended I change the driver, but
they also suggested I convert the Leslie to accommodate a balanced input
(convert my 147 to a 122). Goff tends to favor the 122 over the 147. The cost
of the driver plus a new connector kit and the conversion to a 122 seemed a
bit steep, especially if it doesn't brighten the sound significantly. I was a
little skeptical about whether or not a balanced input would make that much
of a difference. Any constructive thoughts anyone?
I still suspect the preamp may need rebuilding.
Thanks
Scott Hawthorn
> > The filter caps were replaced as per Goff Professional's >advice,
>theyrecommended performing that job over a >preamp rebuild. The new filter
>caps resulted in a >noticeable but subtle improvement.
>
That is nothing but an opinion, and I disagree with it.
>No offense, then why don't you email Goff and ask him rather than getting
>bullshit myth advice about caps from 2nd and 3rd stringers.
Here's one reason: Goff is in business; he's selling cap kits. Do you ask a
car salesman what kind of car you should get? I know of NO tech who would
recommend replacing gen caps before checking out components in the preamp.
> Ask Goff via email, I understand he answers emails, 95 percent of what you
>read about caps in these Internet groups is bullshit by a little handful of
>'experts' who feel they have the consenus on that tech issue who probably
>have had 1 or 2 per cent of his customers.
Harvey Olson and Bob Scarborough are bona fide experts, with many years of
experience between the two of them, although Harv has not announced a
public opinion on the merits of cap kits.
>Actually, after a cap kit has been correctly installed it is the skilled
>pro musician's ear that determines its sound qualities or lack thereof not
>electronic appliance techs.
Who is THAT supposed to slander??
> Goff has a formidable long list of noted pros
>who use that kit in their organs. Organs being on many CDs.
The sound is a subjective matter of opinion. Many of these pros you speak
of are rockers who play so loud that subtleties of tone are completely
lost. I have a very well-developed ear- I have perfect pitch and played
violin for years. I hated the sound of my recapped generator, so much so
that I replaced it entirely. In fact, there are NOT many of these organs on
CDs. In the world of jazz organ in particular, I think you would be
hard-pressed to name even one.
>The kit in a Hammond console I have renders it by far the best sounding
>Hammond I have and that is the opinion of 100 per cent of all the players I
>have had in my personal studio that I have asked as I have been mystified by
>this argument.
Big deal, Tony. Outside of your personal studio, it's a big world out
there, and not every good player agrees with you. So what? Your disparaging
tone is insulting to experts who try hard to help novices here. You
acknowledge no possibility of a different, valid, opinion. It probably
hasn't occurred to a small mind such as yours that advice to go slow before
jumping into a recap is based on genuine concern for others' wallets and
that they not unnecessarily or unwittingly destroy a perfectly good generator.
>(Not affilitated with Goff or know him personally)
Well I do, and I think he is a good guy and runs a great shop. You have
indicated before that you think this is some kind of a vendetta against
Al-- nothing could be further from the truth.
-Scott
Tony
"PoopShutt" per Fulk. This is like the 2nd or 3rd time I have seen you score
brownies. I meant nothing insulting to Olsen and mentioned no names, but
Hawthorn is trying to esculate something.
I'zwrote:
>And that was the *correct* advice.
Hawthorn:
>That is nothing but an opinion, and I disagree with it.
Good! Then let's keep it that way *opinion*.
I'z wrote:
>No offense, then why don't you email Goff and ask him rather than getting
>bullshit myth advice about caps from 2nd and 3rd stringers.
Hawthorn:
>Here's one reason: Goff is in business; he's selling cap kits. Do you ask a
>car salesman what kind of car you should get? I know of NO tech who would
>recommend replacing gen caps before checking out components in the preamp.
Now this is funny! Hawthorn publicly posts Goff is like a "car salesman"?
Follows along your bud Desert-one who posted here that he is a "crass
commercialist"? Didn't I read that here? LOL!
Goff is an advocate of the classic Hammond and his opinions are truly
sincere and has a dedication to the instrument, IMO.
Hawthorn:
>Harvey Olson and Bob Scarborough are bona fide experts, with many years of
>experience between the two of them, although <snip>
It is "Olsen" isn't it? Shame your self announced perfect-pitch ear didn't
carry over into spelling. Scarborough doesn't post here, remember? But I
will say he is a *bona fide slanderer* when he did.
>Harv has not announced a public opinion on the merits of cap kits.
Yes he did. Wrong again. From what I have read he posted that he believes in
replacing only one cap at a time not wholesale replacement. But I could be
corrected on that since he reads this right? (And he owes you one)
I'z wrote:
>Actually, after a cap kit has been correctly installed it is the skilled
>pro musician's ear that determines its sound qualities or lack thereof not
>electronic appliance techs.
Hawthorn:
>Who is THAT supposed to slander??
Nobody. It is a fact. High level musicianship reigns supreme over electronic
appliance techs by far when it comes to hearing issues. There are show
horses and plow horses. It was posted by others here, though not nice,
many Hammond techs are just failure Hammond musicians.
If you want to talk about slander revisit Scarborough's "crass
commercialist" post about Goff that had several points of true slander.
Please don't give a bullshit answer to this as I don't want to see it
reposted again like was done before.
I'z wrote:
> Goff has a formidable long list of noted pros
>who use that kit in their organs. Organs being on many CDs.
Hawthorn:
>The sound is a subjective matter of opinion. Many of these pros you speak
>of are rockers who play so loud that subtleties of tone are completely
>lost.
That a fact?. I would like to hear *you* sing "Stormy Monday" like Greg
Allman with his blues voicings and inflections, on second thought, forget
that idea.
Hawthorn:
> I have a very well-developed ear-
More like very well-developed Internet bullshit.
Hawthorn:
>I have perfect pitch
Says who, you? I suppose Julliard said it. LOL!
Hawthorn:
>played violin for years.
So did Jack Benny. He was funny too.
Hawthorn:
>I hated the sound of my recapped generator, so much so that I replaced it
entirely.
Well, look who did the work. LOL!
Hawthorn:
>In fact, there are NOT many of these organs on CDs. In the world of jazz
organ in >particular, I think you would be hard-pressed to name even one.
More people than Goff have used these type of caps. There have been all
types of Hammonds on CDs even non-tonewheel. Mail Goff. He could name all of
them not just one of them. But he would not appreciate your attitude, I bet.
I'z wrote:
>The kit in a Hammond console I have renders it by far the best sounding
>Hammond I have and that is the opinion of 100 per cent of all the players I
>have had in my personal studio that I have asked as I have been mystified
by
>this argument.
Hawthorn:
>Big deal, Tony. Outside of your personal studio, it's a big world out
>there, and not every good player agrees with you.
So what? It *is* a big deal to me to have a correctly sounding console not
affected by purveyors of Internet myth. That's what *is* is.
Hawthorn:
>Your disparaging tone is insulting to experts who try hard to help novices
here.
Tech soundbytes. Very little is posted here or in your HT that is really
useful these days. Does Goff post his lengthy 'tech tips' on HT, in fact,
does he post at all? Probably very infrequently. The archives of Hammond
Internet discussion from past years contain 10 times more information and
step by step repair info. But, hey, who wants to give useful information
that has utility for free? The most helpful person I have seen on these
Internet groups is Fulk who handles a lot privately, IMO, and genuinely sees
it through.
Hawthorn:
>You acknowledge no possibility of a different, valid, opinion.
Look who is talking.
Hawthorn:
>It probably hasn't occurred to a small mind such as yours that advice to
go slow >before jumping into a recap is based on genuine concern for others'
wallets and
>that they not unnecessarily or unwittingly destroy a perfectly good
generator.
Oh well, in other ways I lucked out, not everything I am biologically given
is small. Putting the kit in is *clearly* specified by Goff for electronic
techs or electronic savey people. Your warnings about "destroying
generators" is clearly an exaggeration.
I'z wrote:
>(Not affilitated with Goff or know him personally)
Hawthorn:
>Well I do, and I think he is a good guy and runs a great shop. You have
>indicated before that you think this is some kind of a vendetta against
>Al-- nothing could be further from the truth.
I don't know if your platitudes will go over with him. I wouldn't buy it
if I were him reading your comments. But that is for him to decide. I am
sure he is intelligent enough to have noticed your support of individuals
who have slandered his business and now you add the term "car salesman".
LOL!
But like I said earlier, your are funny.
Tony
Scott Hawthorn
>Now this is funny! Hawthorn publicly posts Goff is like a "car salesman"?
Your reading skills are weak. I give you a D minus. The answer to your
question is, "No."
>Scarborough doesn't post here, remember?
Everyone can thank you for that. One bona-fide expert down, one to go.
> >The sound is a subjective matter of opinion. Many of these pros you speak
> >of are rockers who play so loud that subtleties of tone are completely
> >lost.
>
>That a fact?. I would like to hear *you* sing "Stormy Monday" like Greg
>Allman with his blues voicings and inflections, on second thought, forget
>that idea.
No you wouldn't. I can't sing. Here's the main thing that I want to reply
to: my personal opinion is that Greg Allman is an amazingly weak and
uninteresting organ player. I know several dozens of people who could do a
better job. Gregg got lucky, like many rockers. If you think THAT
performance of "Stormy Monday" is definitive, I now understand why it is
that you can't hear very well.
>Hawthorn:
> >I have perfect pitch
>
>Says who, you? I suppose Julliard said it. LOL!
My teachers. I didn't believe 'em.
>Hawthorn:
> >played violin for years.
>
>So did Jack Benny. He was funny too.
Good one! Actually, he could play his ass off when serious.
>Hawthorn:
> >I hated the sound of my recapped generator, so much so that I replaced it
>entirely.
>
>Well, look who did the work. LOL!
Who do you think? For all you know, Goff did it! For your info, either a
recap works or it doesn't. There's nothing to screw up, unless you break a
choke wire.
>More people than Goff have used these type of caps. There have been all
>types of Hammonds on CDs even non-tonewheel. Mail Goff. He could name all of
>them not just one of them. But he would not appreciate your attitude, I bet.
No, these are Goff's proprietary caps, "hand-selected." Al is quite aware
of my opinion, and is quite decent about it. He respects my opinion, unlike
you. But I know you will go ahead and email my comments to him, as you have
done before. We used to have a word for this kind of behavior, on the
playground.
>Very little is posted here or in your HT that is really
>useful these days. Does Goff post his lengthy 'tech tips' on HT, in fact,
>does he post at all?
Yup.
>The archives of Hammond
>Internet discussion from past years contain 10 times more information and
>step by step repair info.
Than what? I myself have posted step-by-step info both here and on Hamtech
recently. So have others.
>Your warnings about "destroying
>generators" is clearly an exaggeration.
What is so clear to you, cheek-block head? Mine was destroyed, as far as
I'm concerned, and I am aware of other owners with the same results and
opinions.
>But like I said earlier, your are funny.
Thank you Tony. A high compliment indeed.
Tony
question is, "No."
I will let others be the judge of what you posted. Pretty obvious. But
recharacterization of public posted remarks is something you do often.
Usually to cover over your remarks or a buddies and is absolutely sickening
but funny.
>> Scarborough doesn't post here, remember?
> Everyone can thank you for that. One bona-fide expert down, one to go.
Tut, tut, tut, well . . . no list censor here and DesertBoob can't hit the
delete button? Well, I am flattered. But I do miss his useless
techo-ramblings and 'schpinettes'. Tell him to get his mommy to tell me off
when he gets off his pipe organ or whatever. (By the way folks, many in the
Hammond world quietly say this guy is *nuts*)
> >That a fact?. I would like to hear *you* sing "Stormy Monday" like Greg
> >Allman with his blues voicings and inflections, on second thought, forget
> >that idea.
>
> No you wouldn't. I can't sing.
Or play. I have heard you play and I received an email where someone said
you posted on Hamtech that you have AADD?
Adult Attention Deficit Disorder. Did you post that, HaHaHawthore? LOL.
(Some of you reading this may think I am kidding but he did post it). Maybe
you should pay attention more to your own remarks this way you won't have to
try to recharacterize them on a later post.
> to: my personal opinion is that Greg Allman is an amazingly weak and
uninteresting organ player. I know several dozens of >people who could do a
better job. Gregg got lucky, like many rockers.
Got lucky with Cher too. Gregg is a talented singer and performer and his
Hammond performances are geared to band backup and short solos not the jazz
technical genre. He is also singing harmonies when playing. I am sure his
lead vocals contributed to the band's success. Oh my, little people and
failures like you always like to take shots at big people.
> performance of "Stormy Monday" is definitive, I now understand why it is
that you can't hear very well.
Hey,. I like that tune. But how about *your* selections. At your expensive,
there was some great humor going around Hammond Internet about your
selection of "Stones Throw Away" by an artist named Bonow or something with
like 2 or 3 chords that sucked so terribly bad it started a long HT thread
not complimentary to your choice, I understand. But you said it was
"lovely!!".
ROFL!
> >Says who, you? I suppose Julliard said it. LOL!
>
> My teachers. I didn't believe 'em.
More like *perfect bullshit*.
> Good one! Actually, he could play his ass off when serious.
I agree on that.
> No, these are Goff's proprietary caps, "hand-selected."
Others order the same caps. Maybe Goff does have a unique way of testing and
rejecting them. They get a fine result.
Al is quite aware
> of my opinion, and is quite decent about it. He respects my opinion,
unlike you. But I know you will go ahead and email my comments to him, as
you have done before. We used to have a word for this kind of behavior, on
the playground.
Oooooooo . . . . . me? . . . not me . but it sounds like you have been
notified. Al is not aware of your remarks that you post here as he doesn't
read this list.
> >Very little is posted here or in your HT that is really
> >useful these days. Does Goff post his lengthy 'tech tips' on HT, in fact,
> >does he post at all?
>
> Yup.
Sir, you are a liar. Goff hasn't posted for weeks. In fact, I just called my
friend who has HT to ask him. He said Goff hasn't posted for weeks and
hasn't really posted his usual long tech tips for a long time. I am sure HT
members reading this know without my commenting. That is not to say he will
post tomorrow or everyday from now on, who knows. A portion of his last 10
or so posts were spent defending his cap kits.
> What is so clear to you, cheek-block head? Mine was destroyed, as far as
I'm concerned, and I am aware of other owners >with the same results and
opinions.
Ya see Hawthorn. *This* is the real school yard stuff. . . . . Name calling
Did I call you any names?
>But like I said earlier, your are funny.
>
> Thank you Tony. A high compliment indeed.
I meant it as a compliment. You *are* funny and amusing and I am glad you
are back unannounced after you posted you left this list when DesertBoob
left. Seriously you add entertainment to it. Thanks for coming back.
Ya see, I get nicer as my post progresses you get meaner.
Tony
Scott Hawthorn
>Tut, tut, tut, well . . . no list censor here and DesertBoob can't hit the
>Hammond world quietly say this guy is *nuts*)
OK, name them. Odd that I haven't heard that one before. Hey wait, I
thought you condemned slander! Guess you didn't mean it after all. I didn't
think so.
>Gregg is a talented singer and performer and his
>Hammond performances are geared to band backup and short solos not the jazz
>technical genre.
I don't like it. I think he's a hack. I know the difference between jazz
and blues/rock, BTW, thanks just the same.
>there was some great humor going around Hammond Internet about your
>selection of "Stones Throw Away" by an artist named Bonow or something with
>like 2 or 3 chords that sucked so terribly bad it started a long HT thread
>not complimentary to your choice, I understand. But you said it was
>"lovely!!".
Yup. I still do. So did some other people you didn't mention. I'll go
further: I think that Dan Bonow is a genius who sings flat on high notes
sometimes. Let's see, here: the intro has 4 chords, the 'A' has a first
section with 4 chords, the second section has two more, and the bridge has
4 more new changes. So, I get 14 chords, with or without AADD. Funny how
the topic has wandered from tone generator recapping, BTW. AADD is a
disability. I'm not ashamed. Should I be? You really wanna fight about
this? That would be stupid.
>Others order the same caps. Maybe Goff does have a unique way of testing and
>rejecting them.
Well, he says that he does! Didn't you read his website before becoming his
personal pit bull?
>Oooooooo . . . . . me? . . . not me . but it sounds like you have been
>notified. Al is not aware of your remarks that you post here as he doesn't
>read this list.
There are many things that go on that might surprise you! Hee hee hee.....
> > >Very little is posted here or in your HT that is really
> > >useful these days. Does Goff post his lengthy 'tech tips' on HT, in fact,
> > >does he post at all?
> >
> > Yup.
>
>Sir, you are a liar. Goff hasn't posted for weeks. In fact, I just called my
>friend who has HT to ask him. He said Goff hasn't posted for weeks and
>hasn't really posted his usual long tech tips for a long time.
Your "friend" is wrong. Look it up. Or cancel your own aliased subscription.
>Ya see Hawthorn. *This* is the real school yard stuff. . . . . Name calling
>Did I call you any names?
Not today, until this post. Check the archives if you don't remember the
other times. "Cheekblock-head" is just a light-hearted insult-- "Liar" is
defamatory. So is "stupid," but I'll risk it in your case.
>You *are* funny and amusing and I am glad you
>are back unannounced after you posted you left this list when DesertBoob
>left.
I never posted that I "left this list." Look it up and you'll know what I
did say.
Hey, Joy Boy, the reason I am hassling you is because: No-one can say, on
this list, *anything* bad about recapping without your coming in with nasty
comments towards the poster. Didn't you even notice that you insulted
Harvey? Harvey's advice is pure gold, and you sneer at it!
Unbefuckinglievable! That doesn't mean you have to agree with everything he
says, but his advice was an important heads up-- 3-series organs with red
mylar caps are coveted by many players, and to rip them out without even
testing the other elements of the instrument first is tantamount to
criminal behavior, and, like he said, likely to reduce the value of the
organ considerably, whether-or-not you like recapping. This isn't a matter
of opinion, it's just the way it is.
I may be grouchy, talk too much, belch, and complain alot, but I can't
recall one single constructive thing that you have ever offered to this
forum. That's just *fine* that you like your cap kit, you have lots of
company! That these recaps are a matter of controversy is common knowledge;
even Al himself has said publicly several times that they're not for
everybody. But you seem to be the only person on the net who believes that
there is only one "correct" opinion on this subject. Your disparaging
remarks towards Bob Scarborough showed that you know little about
electronics, and therefore aren't qualified to dismiss his theoretical
reasoning re the filtering issues. All you know is that you and your
friends like the sound and you didn't like Bob's way of expressing himself.
What he said made perfect sense to those of us who understand this circuit,
and it has a solid technical basis. Bob's electronic credentials are
staggering, but you made it clear that you didn't know that. If you
objected to his personal style of expressing himself, that's a different
matter entirely and has nothing to do with his qualifications or his sincerity.
The next time you have something to say about fixing, restoring, playing,
or moving an organ, or a performance you heard, or have some help or
enthusiasm to offer, I'm sure your posts will be more appreciated than is
the vile crap you're putting out now!
-Scott
== Sometimes I'm a list-Nazi, and sometimes I play one on the internet too! ==
Lord Valve
Scott Hawthorn wrote:
(snip)
> No you wouldn't. I can't sing. Here's the main thing that I want to reply
> to: my personal opinion is that Greg Allman is an amazingly weak and
> uninteresting organ player. I know several dozens of people who could do a
> better job. Gregg got lucky, like many rockers. If you think THAT
> performance of "Stormy Monday" is definitive, I now understand why it is
> that you can't hear very well.
Holy shit, there may be hope for this NG
yet. ;-) "Several dozens" is conservative,
if you ask me. I know "several dozens"
right here in Denver.
LV
Tony
Try to pay attention to this post as it is my last in this thread.
> OK, name them.
Not all of us ratfink on people like you. Sorry, bub I have heard this a
number of times about the guys sanity, absolutely, for sure. Is it true? I
don't know, not a psychiatrist.
>Odd that I haven't heard that one before.
You weren't paying attention or people don't tell things to ratfinks. That
should tell you something.
> I don't like it. I think he's a hack. I know the difference between jazz
and blues/rock, BTW, thanks just the same.
Matter of opinion, I do. So what?
> Yup. I still do. So did some other people you didn't mention. I'll go
further: I think that Dan Bonow is a genius who sings flat on high notes
sometimes.
LOL!! Greg Allman on 'Stormy Monday' sucks but Dan Bonow on 'Stones throw
Away' is a genius.
You are brilliant. Your taste is up your ass.
>BTW. AADD is a
> disability.
Your stupidity is your worst disability. (and lack of talent after hearing
you once)
> There are many things that go on that might surprise you! Hee hee hee.....
Like you playing interesting Hammond.
> Your "friend" is wrong. Look it up.
He could be wrong, who knows? I don't think so. But you continue to lie.
maybe you could post the date of his last post?
Hey, Joy Boy, the reason I am hassling you is because:
You ain't hassling me. I enjoy responding.
>No-one can say, on this list, *anything* bad about recapping without your
coming in with nasty comments towards the
>poster. Didn't you even notice that you insulted Harvey? Harvey's advice
is pure gold, and you sneer at it!
You are the biggest ass-kisser I have seen on Hammond Internet by far. It
must work for you.
Pay attention to this: *Fuck you!* .
> Unbefuckinglievable! That doesn't mean you have to agree with everything
he says, but his advice was an important heads up <snip> This isn't a matter
of opinion, it's just the way it is.
Wrong! I already posted one other opinion on this that was in Goff's
literature. Did you learn in High School if you went, the different between
opinion and fact. There is no exact science to restoring vintage
instruments. There are different opinions. By the way, how many years do you
think the mylar caps will last you fucking idiot. Forever.
> I may be grouchy, talk too much, belch, and complain alot, but I can't
recall one single constructive thing that you have ever offered to this
You forgot, can't play.
> The next time you have something to say about fixing, restoring, playing,
or moving an organ, or a performance you heard, or have some help or
enthusiasm to offer
Didn't you read that this was a players list also. Admitingly, I don't do
electronic repairs but I hold my own with my Hammond and Midi stuff. Did you
ever get a Midi keyboard yet or are you still Midi illiterate?
> Sometimes I'm a list-Nazi, and sometimes I play one on the internet too!
Why don't you make up your own spiffy comments instead of stealing Valves.
Hey you are original. Shows me how stupid you are.
Tony
Dan ''Spiffy'' Neuman
HEY!!!! ;)
Robert D. Williams
arrogant criticizm about the BR string between LV and myself.
Robert
Robert D. Williams
Robert
Gary
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:35:53 -0500, The Hammond Forum wrote:
> Greg Allman=tin-eared mediocrity
I beg to differ. Whipping Post and others are also included in the classic
Hammond list of great tunes that was posted here. These tunes were great
songs of the day. Many Allman tunes depended on Hammond to get their sound.
I also agree that Greg Allman sings with a nice feel though no Jimmy Smith
but fills in nice. Though my tastes have changed, I still enjoy Whipping
Post and others. :)
Gary
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In a message dated 11/20/00 2:01:22 PM, webc...@excite.com writes:
<< > Greg Allman=tin-eared mediocrity
I beg to differ. Whipping Post and others are also included in the classic
Hammond list of great tunes that was posted here. These tunes were great
songs of the day. Many Allman tunes depended on Hammond to get their sound.
I also agree that Greg Allman sings with a nice feel though no Jimmy Smith
but fills in nice. Though my tastes have changed, I still enjoy Whipping
Post and others. :) >>
I'll have to put in a good word for Greg too. You can keep Cher though.
Whether or not Greg is/was the greatest soloist isn't the point. The Allman
Brothers, especially at their peak (Live @ Fillmore IMHO,) had a unique (I
say good) sound as a unit. Greg's organ added just the right touch to that
double drummer, frieght train rhythm section. Understatement is a big part of
the blues which is certainly where they were comin from.
fG
GK
"Scott Hawthorn" <organ...@bainbridge.net> wrote :
my personal opinion is that Greg Allman is an amazingly weak and
> uninteresting organ player.
Sounds like another pissed off Dickie Betts fan bashing Gregg. ABB has been
around for 30 years now and just about everything good and bad has been said
about them. Luck? Sure! But you know it's more than luck that gives a
musician the staying power that Gregg Allman has. Go to a dozen or so of
their shows and Gregg will show you some razzle dazzle sooner or later. When
you sell out the Beacon Theater in NYC for 13 straight shows(like they did
this last spring), maybe then you can criticize him as an equal. Until then,
maybe you should consider learning how to be successful from them. They
don't mind sharing their knowledge with us, all we have ever had to do is
ask.
And getting back to the real topic here, the only way to really tell if a
capacitor is good or bad is to test it out of circuit with a GOOD (Sencore)
capacitor tester. Capacitor value, leakage and equivalent series resistance
are the most important parameters. Other than the results of the tester,
everything else is opinion, just like your statements about Gregg Allman. If
you have to pull the part out of circuit to test it, you might as well
replace it since the cost of a new cap is negligible and the amount of labor
is the same. You could totally recap a dozen organs for the cost of a good
tester. The problem is that you need a tester to determine the value of the
new caps, too, since cap tolerances are so broad and it is necessary to get
them as close to the specified value as possible for filtering and tone
shaping applications. That's my 2 cents on organ recapping.
GK
Scott Hawthorn
>"Scott Hawthorn" <organ...@bainbridge.net> wrote :
>
> my personal opinion is that Greg Allman is an amazingly weak and
> > uninteresting organ player.
>
>Sounds like another pissed off Dickie Betts fan bashing Gregg.
Who's Dickie Betts?
-Scott
Stan Curtis
1) I've experimented with DesertBob's method of changing the capacitor
value until the maximum output is achieved on a spectrum analyser (or wave
analyser) -allegedly the factory method. And I've tried the "commercial"
method of fitting new caps measured & padded to better than 1% accuracy to
the schematic value.
The former method results in a clean "flute" sound and quite an even sound
output. The second method gives a more "funky" sound with a bit more
graunch and irregularity. I prefer the former but then I also play pipe
organs as well as Hammonds. Take your pick
2) Why does every string on this site degenerate into a schoolboy pissing
match ? I guess most of us just don't care who can piss the highest on the
wall. There must be an awful lot of people out there with chips on their
shoulders and latent problems of low self-esteem.
Sermon over
Stan
"GK" <gk...@rose.net> wrote in message
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Donald R. Resor
From: "Stan Curtis" <st...@divasolutions.fsnet.co.uk>
Hey you guys. I just have two things to say.
>>
1) I've experimented with DesertBob's method of changing the capacitor
value until the maximum output is achieved on a spectrum analyser (or wave
analyser) -allegedly the factory method. And I've tried the "commercial"
method of fitting new caps measured & padded to better than 1% accuracy to
the schematic value.
The former method results in a clean "flute" sound and quite an even sound
output.
<<
Well done this way, the Hammond has a sound that make WurliTzer Tibias
jeolous you know, by developing a tone that is closer to sine wave (not
perfect by far mind you) but close in comparision to wind-blown pipes. Now
if you want them Buzzy Reeds that's a different story.
>>
The second method gives a more "funky" sound with a bit more
graunch and irregularity. I prefer the former but then I also play pipe
organs as well as Hammonds. Take your pick
2) Why does every string on this site degenerate into a schoolboy pissing
match ? I guess most of us just don't care who can piss the highest on the
wall. There must be an awful lot of people out there with chips on their
shoulders and latent problems of low self-esteem.
<<
That's because some people prefer "personal opinion" over "technical
perfection" A Hammond can scream "rock and roll" loud enough with a
distorted Leslie then a "bag of caps" retrofit kit. Or like you said "chips
on there shoulders" or just like to pick a fit. But you also have to
understand that America is still a very young country in comparision to the
rest of the world. We should take example from the queen mumm when she
"rung the neck" of a bird to put it out of it's misery! ;-)
Donald R. Resor
http://go.to/tonewheels
David
Just because we Americans have trouble counting (at least those in
Florida)doesn't mean we should have our necks wrung. Besides, I have
a feeling that the massive "flaming" that goes on around here is not
a uniquely American effort. People all want their opinion to be the
right one & some just can't accept when it's not.
Peace through music,
David Hagler
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The Reverend Stan sayeth...
>2) Why does every string on this site degenerate into a schoolboy
pissing
>match ? I guess most of us just don't care who can piss the highest on
the
>wall. There must be an awful lot of people out there with chips on their
>shoulders and latent problems of low self-esteem.
.....a voice of reason in the wilderness.
Well put Stan.
Perhaps some of these people you mentioned need to find themselves a life
outside of this list, like playing music instead of ripping others.
Dave
Gary
>The former method results in a clean "flute" sound and quite an even >sound
output. The second method gives a more "funky" sound with a >bit
Then why don't to upload the sound differences in wav files to a/your
Website so others can hear it and make that judgement. Everybody talks about
this but provides no material for others to listen and make their own
judgement. Supposed to believe somebody on these conflicting opinions. Guess
there is a shortage of mikes and bandwidth in computerdom.
What would you do if somebody else did your second method but provided a
better or equal tone and provided *their* sound wav? Makes no sense to me
how one person can be so delighted and another so critical. One organ sounds
great another needs to have its magnets adjusted using the same method?
Somebody is full of shit.
Also, others that have an organ and like the caps-in-a-bag may also upload a
wav even if just a chromatic scale. This is all subjective without proof.
Somebody might be nice maybe and provide some Webspace to hear different
organs with volunteers with various capped methods uploading wav files.
Provided they have a decent mike. Just a thought.
I like to hear it before accepting/believing anybody's opinion. Other than
that it is just rhetoric.
Gary
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At 09:47 AM 11/21/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
>The Reverend Stan sayeth...
>
>>2) Why does every string on this site degenerate into a schoolboy
>pissing
>>match ? I guess most of us just don't care who can piss the highest on
>the
>>wall. There must be an awful lot of people out there with chips on their
>>shoulders and latent problems of low self-esteem.
>
>.....a voice of reason in the wilderness.
>
>Well put Stan.
>Perhaps some of these people you mentioned need to find themselves a life
>outside of this list, like playing music instead of ripping others.
>
>Dave
Stan and Dave,
Am I mistaken? I seem to remember both of you participating in the Buddy
Rich string... something about capitalism, etc. (smile)
Judge not...
Robert
DAVE_...@qvc.com
Robert wrote:
>Stan and Dave,
>Am I mistaken? I seem to remember both of you participating in the Buddy
>Rich string... something about capitalism, etc. (smile)
>Judge not...
>Robert
Robert, get a life.
Dave
Michael Fulk
with little or no harmonics, in practice it has a somewhat subtle but very
hearable third harmonic....even Hamond's tibia has the third harmonic at
position 3 with fundamental at position 8.
IMHO, the "Queen Mum" is a senile doddering beldam , long past her prime,
whose every utterance is either puerile or irrelevant.
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald R. Resor <}{amm...@theatreorgans.com>
To: The Hammond Forum <ham...@ns2.zeni.net>
Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [HAM] How to brighten a slightly muddy B3?
>
>From: "Stan Curtis" <st...@divasolutions.fsnet.co.uk>
>
>Hey you guys. I just have two things to say.
>
>>>
>1) I've experimented with DesertBob's method of changing the capacitor
>value until the maximum output is achieved on a spectrum analyser (or wave
>analyser) -allegedly the factory method. And I've tried the "commercial"
>method of fitting new caps measured & padded to better than 1% accuracy to
>the schematic value.
>The former method results in a clean "flute" sound and quite an even sound
>output.
><<
>
>Well done this way, the Hammond has a sound that make WurliTzer Tibias
>jeolous you know, by developing a tone that is closer to sine wave (not
>perfect by far mind you) but close in comparision to wind-blown pipes. Now
>if you want them Buzzy Reeds that's a different story.
>
>>>
>The second method gives a more "funky" sound with a bit more
>graunch and irregularity. I prefer the former but then I also play pipe
>organs as well as Hammonds. Take your pick
>2) Why does every string on this site degenerate into a schoolboy
pissing
>match ? I guess most of us just don't care who can piss the highest on the
>wall. There must be an awful lot of people out there with chips on their
>shoulders and latent problems of low self-esteem.
><<
>
>That's because some people prefer "personal opinion" over "technical
>perfection" A Hammond can scream "rock and roll" loud enough with a
>distorted Leslie then a "bag of caps" retrofit kit. Or like you said "chips
>on there shoulders" or just like to pick a fit. But you also have to
>understand that America is still a very young country in comparision to the
>rest of the world. We should take example from the queen mumm when she
>"rung the neck" of a bird to put it out of it's misery! ;-)
>
>Donald R. Resor
>http://go.to/tonewheels
>
>
>
Justin DiFebbo
1) Your band/project name (if applicable)
2) Url of your site so we can listen to some of your music
3) Playing experience/history
4) Your equipment
5) Favorite artists
Thanks,
Justin
>Well put Stan.
>Perhaps some of these people you mentioned need to find themselves a life
>outside of this list, like playing music instead of ripping others.
suregold
----- Original Message -----
From: "GK" <gk...@rose.net>
To: <ham...@tonewheel.zeni.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [HAM] How to brighten a slightly muddy B3?
>
> "Scott Hawthorn" <organ...@bainbridge.net> wrote :
>
> my personal opinion is that Greg Allman is an amazingly weak and
> > uninteresting organ player.
>>> always has been, always will be.
> . You could totally recap a dozen organs for the cost of a good
> tester. The problem is that you need a tester to determine the value of
the
> new caps, too, since cap tolerances are so broad and it is necessary to
get
> them as close to the specified value as possible for filtering and tone
> shaping applications. That's my 2 cents on organ recapping.
> GK
The subject was tone generator recapping, obviously you've NEVER done this.
calibration tolerances are the object, not merely replacing components.
Cork H
Dennis M. Wage
Studio Musician in Nashville TN
> 2) Url of your site so we can listen to some of your music
http://hammondb3organ.com Click on my name at the bottom of the home page.
> 3) Playing experience/history
Started lessons on M3 at age 6. Studied classical organ till senior in high school, then switched to classical piano during my 6 years of post High School.
Bachelor of Arts Music with recording/music business minor.
Won a Student Grammy while in college. Don't be all impressed, I think they give out lots and lots of these.
Worked a single in a nightclub on M3/147/Rhythm King drum machine from age 14 to 18. Started playing rock/jazz/R&B at age 19. Wasted the next 18 years of my life. Moved to Nashville in 1989 where I have been slowly working my way up the ladder of studio keyboard players. Have avoided the road except for a short stint 3 summers ago with Skip Ewing, who's band members included Ray Herndon(guitarist for Lyle Lovett), Mike Kennedy(drummer for George Strait), Gary Morse(Steel Guitar for Dwight Yoakam).
> 4) Your equipment
1970? or later Hammond B3 chop, 1960 Hammond B3, 122 Leslie, 2-31H Leslies, Wurlitzer 203B EP, and assorted bells and whistles in a rack.
> 5) Favorite artists
There aren't many styles of music I don't like. Joey De Francesco, what can you say. The King of B3-BOP.
"Dennis M. Wage" DWa...@hammondb3organ.com
Chat: http://216.78.145.32/hammond/chat/b3.html
Hammond Organ: http://hammondb3organ.com
Scott Hawthorn
>[snip] Makes no sense to me
>how one person can be so delighted and another so critical. One organ sounds
>great another needs to have its magnets adjusted using the same method?
>Somebody is full of shit.
Well, we *almost* got off to an interesting discussion of the merits of the
recapping, BTA, somebody is apparently "full of shit."
I doubt, even with a side-by-side comparison, that agreement would be
found. Taste, expectations, experience, and sharpness of hearing will all
come into play.
Evenness of output between the tones is not subjective, it can be measured.
Tone quality is the part that can never be proved one way or the other.
I'm one of the guys who felt it necessary to readjust magnets after the
recap. This was not because I hated the upper-mid range shrillness that I
think I heard, but because there was a huge difference between the apparent
volume of some of the tones.
-Scott
Scott Hawthorn
>IMHO, the "Queen Mum" is a senile doddering beldam , long past her prime,
>whose every utterance is either puerile or irrelevant.
Yes, but you oughta hear her when she belts out "Stormy Monday"!
Stan Curtis
1) Yes I join threads from time to time but I'm not aware that I ever get
nasty or abusive.
2) Interesting idea to set up a side by side comparison of the sound of
different "capping" methods. At present I don't have the time & I wonder
about the value of the exercise. Currently I have 12 Hammonds in my home
from a model "A" to a G-100. But of the C3/A100/etc models none of mine
sounds the same. There are just too many variables and loose tolerances
3) I tried to say that IMO there isn't a right or wrong sound. These
pages are full of questions about "how do I get more distortion etc. from my
C3". "How does organist XXX get such a great sound". So I suppose there
isn't a definitive answer. I like pipe organ music so I like a particular
sound. Next week I'm going to see Jimmy Smith & I like his sound. In the
60s when I played in rock bands I did everything possible to make my Hammond
just rip through the band; guitarists or no guitarists.
So you choose the sound you want and don't dictate to others how their
Hammond should sound (unless something is clearly wrong).
4) Michael as usual talks a lot of sense & I agree with his comment about
the Queen Mum although it might get me shot to say so over here. She's just
another old woman but with some redeeming features. Contrary to her almost
holy image she is renown for drinking gin; gambling on her race-horses and
running up big overdrafts (loans) at her bank. As we say over here "she's a
bit of a gal".
Actually though it was the Queen herself who publicly wrung the neck of a
winged pheasant just showing that Englishwomen are far from squeamish.
5) And Dave thanks for the new moniker:-
"Reverend
Stan"
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> I can't tell you how many times a day I sit here and wonder where these
"flamers" are coming from. I wonder how many of these people actually do
play music seriously? How about a poll people...? If your integrity has
been called into question (or if you just feel like sharing), please satisfy
us all with some basic info:
>
> 1) Your band/project name (if applicable)
> 2) Url of your site so we can listen to some of your music
> 3) Playing experience/history
> 4) Your equipment
> 5) Favorite artists
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
>
>
> >Well put Stan.
> >Perhaps some of these people you mentioned need to find themselves a life
> >outside of this list, like playing music instead of ripping others.
Robert D. Williams
>I can't tell you how many times a day I sit here and wonder where these
"flamers" are coming from. I wonder how many of these people actually do
play music seriously? How about a poll people...? If your integrity has
been called into question (or if you just feel like sharing), please
satisfy us all with some basic info:
>
>1) Your band/project name (if applicable)
>2) Url of your site so we can listen to some of your music
>3) Playing experience/history
>4) Your equipment
>5) Favorite artists
>
>Thanks,
>Justin
Justin... We're waiting for your resume.
B3H...@aol.com
Going back to the original question, I thing a fast/cheap and rather nice way
to help out a dull sounding B, or for that matter one that doesn't have
enough bass is an inexpensive stereo EQ setup between the preamp and matching
xfmr. I'v always had good luck with this mod/fix You have to be careful not
to overdrive it though. Hope this helps, Rich Haymon
Paul Jackson
>
> >IMHO, the "Queen Mum" is a senile doddering beldam , long past her prime,
> >whose every utterance is either puerile or irrelevant.
Can anyone ever remember a bloke called Reagan?
Paul.
Dan ''Spiffy'' Neuman
Blue Incident, Devine Funk, (yet to be named ie The Last Minute Blues Band or The Procrastinators:), various gospel choirs and collaborative projects when needed, and a black church every Sunday.
> 2) Url of your site so we can listen to some of your music
None yet, working on it!
> 3) Playing experience/history
Guitar for seven years (I stopped 3 years ago), various keyboard related projects for the past four or five years. I started guitar in 1st grade and messed around with the piano every now and then until I got serious with keys.
> 4) Your equipment
Hammonds belonging to me: M3, M100, T200, Tchop, soon-to-be-modded E100. Non Hammonds belonging to me: Fender Rhodes, Roland CheapSynth.
Also play various other instruments that dont belong to me :)
> 5) Favorite artists
MANY, but top two:
Bootsy Collins
Fred Hammond
GOOD LUCK!
DAN!
Robert D. Williams
Okay, I'll bite;
1) Your band/project name (if applicable)
Mine: country and classic rock club performer, Merritt jazz project, studio
musician for hire
My Wife: Concert Pipe Organist, professor of music at the University of
Arts teaching international music theory, Yerevan, Armenia... currently
publishing history of Armenian folk and religous music from around 3000
B.C. to present day.
2)Web site: n/a... but under consideration
3) Playing experience/history
Mine:Piano,cello,violin training... studio musician at lowery studio,
atlanta (mgm south), TK Productions, Miami,Dick Clark Productions,
currently assisting my wife with an English version of her book.
My wife: 2 masters degrees in music, trained classically, professor
University of Moscow and Armenia, Concert Pipe Organist, recently had a
television special aired featuring her in Yerevan,Armenia (best damned
keyboardist I've ever heard in my life... and I'm not too shabby myself,
but nothing compared to her).
4) Your equipment
Mine and My Wifes':rd500,xb2,xp50,b3/leslie,yamaha module (forgot the
name),d70,sq80... oh yeah, piece of garbage rd250 and korg leslie module...
probably more around here somewhere
5) Favorite artists
no favorite... I/we appreciate all music, as long as it's well-done... but
I do kinda like Kitaro
Robert
Tomas Jones
>
> I can't tell you how many times a day I sit here and wonder where these
> "flamers" are coming from. I wonder how many of these people actually do play
> music seriously? How about a poll people...?
> 1) Your band/project name (if applicable)
> 2) Url of your site so we can listen to some of your music
> 3) Playing experience/history
> 4) Your equipment
> 5) Favorite artists
I've tried to stay outside the flame wars, but have been caught in on
occasion.
Poll answers.
URL - nothing at the moment. I am building a house, and we are raising show
dogs. you can check that part out at: http://homepage.mac.com
Playing experience - 44 years old now. Started playing at age 4, switched
to organ at age 8. Apprenticed on Pipe Organ at age 13 (Old Town Music Hall
- El Segundo, CA). Spent most of my adult life in Jazz, Blues and cover
bands. Would rather be playing Blues than anything else.
Fav Artists - Too Many: Composers - Duke, Basie, Zappa, Copeland, Mingus
Players - Brother Jack, Barbara Denerlien, Groove, Stevie Ray, Roomful of
Blues, Tower of Power, Fungo Mungo, Zappa, Wierd Al, the list goes on...
Equipment: '61 Rosewood B3 w/ Leslie 122 and 22H, EIS 'Oakland Chop' B3 w/
Leslie145 powered by a McIntosh MC30 amp. Voce V5 w/ Motion Sound Pro3-T
and a JBL EON 15.
Taking a year off why we build the house. Hope to be back at it by next
summer.
Cheers, Tomas Jones
Tomas Jones
>
> URL - nothing at the moment. I am building a house, and we are raising show
OOPS! http://homepage.mac.com/riverdome/
Lord Valve
Paul Jackson wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > >IMHO, the "Queen Mum" is a senile doddering beldam , long past her prime,
> > >whose every utterance is either puerile or irrelevant.
>
> Can anyone ever remember a bloke called Reagan?
Sure, I remember him just fine. He was the guy who
gave your navy all those satellite recon photos when
you were defending your sheep in the Falklands
incident. Maybe this is a good time for me to
post a little article I did in response to that "Notice
of Revocation of Independence" article from the
Daily Mail that's been showing up on all the
NGs...here ya go: (Don't take it personally, sonny...)
NOTICE OF INVITATION TO BECOME THE FIFTY-FIRST STATE
To the subjects of the bankrupt socialist monarchy formerly
known as the British Empire: In light of your failure to
remain a world power, and in sympathy with your plight as
a laughing-stock on the world scene, the citizens of the
United States of America do hereby formally invite you
to renounce your ostentatious and unbearably pompous attitude
and your laughable devotion to a "royal" family which can
at best be generously described as a waste of biomass and
join the mightiest nation on the face of the earth as the
provisional fifty-first State.
Of course, some adjustments in the way you conduct yourselves
will certainly be necessary; for instance, sausages are to be
eaten only at breakfast, and not more than twice per week.
"Tea time" is hereby canceled in favor of the occasional
Coke or Pepsi; citizens of the USA actually *work* most
of their waking hours, and no time is allotted for sipping
lukewarm pee-water from dainty little cups with your pinkies
in the air. You will need to make a slight adjustment in
your taste in reading material; magazines such as "Splosh,"
"Bum," and "Spank" will no longer be available. A short
refresher course in the language of world commerce (American)
will also be required; a "boot" is something worn on the
foot to keep the damp away, a "bonnet" is what your granny
wears to church, a "lift" is what you get from drinking
Mountain Dew, a "bum" is a slovenly rascal who solicits
spare change to buy beer with, "Parliament" is a brand
of cigarettes (no, you may *not* call them "fags," that
word is reserved for something else entirely, more on that
later), you will watch the news on a "TV set" rather than
a "telly" (and you will enjoy the several hundred
channels which are available in most areas of the US,
and not pay taxes nor purchase a license to own such a
device, either) and you will cease calling a truck a
"lorry" or a toilet a "loo." Further, you will drink your
beer ice cold (the way God and Adolph Coors intended)
and you will regard any such beverage which is darker
than a grocery sack as industrial waste. Anyone caught
driving on the lefthand side of the roadway will be
summarily flattened into the pavement by an 18-wheeler.
(Look it up.)
A word on the proper spelling of American words...since
you insist on putting a useless U into words such as
"color" and "flavor," and using an S where a Z is
called for in words such as "atomizer," all of you must be
re-educated as swiftly as possible. Intolerably stuffy
accents must also be corrected, and your re-education
will disavow you of the notion that words such as "cheerio,"
"pip-pip," "wot," and "smashing" have any function at all
in meaningful discourse.
Mincing and prancing will *not* be tolerated...anyone caught
acting in such a fashion will immediately be exiled to
San Francisco for the duration. (See "fags," above.)
A word about sports: should you wish to participate in the
world's finest game, "football," (what you have been
calling "football" up until now is more properly referred
to as "soccer," or "powder-puff") you will be required
to bench-press at least 400 pounds, be able to run 40
yards in under 4 seconds flat while wearing 50 pounds
of armor, and get used to routinely colliding with someone
who is similarly outfitted over a hundred times per
session. It won't hurt if you weigh in the vicinity of
300 pounds, either. Your relatives will be allowed to
visit you in the hospital once per week while you are
recovering from the single game you managed to half-
finish before suffering from double vision and tinitus.
Wheaties may help; crumpets certainly won't.
A few other personal affectations must be swiftly
dealt with; you may not refer to any part of your
anatomy as a "willy," "tallywhacker," "John Thomas,"
"old boy," or describe the use thereof as "pointing
Percy at the porcelain."
Finally, you may not, ever, under any circumstances,
put beans on toast. Don't ask. In return, we will
concede that Sean Connery was the best James Bond,
but then...he's Scottish, isn't he?
(__!__)
Copyright 11/00, by Lord Valve...a fatass Yank, and
you can bloody well like it.
David
--- Tomas Jones <tomas...@MAC.COM> wrote:
> Equipment: '61 Rosewood B3 w/ Leslie 122 and 22H, EIS 'Oakland
> Chop' B3 w/
> Leslie145 powered by a McIntosh MC30 amp. >
Tomas, I would really love to see some pics of your B3 & Chop B3.
They sound nice. One day I'll find a B3, but I'd have to have the
money & the "right" organ.
Peace through music,
David
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Paul Jackson
> Paul Jackson wrote:
>
> > > >IMHO, the "Queen Mum" is a senile doddering beldam , long past her
prime,
> > > >whose every utterance is either puerile or irrelevant.
> >
> > Can anyone ever remember a bloke called Reagan?
>
LV wrote:
>
> Sure, I remember him just fine. He was the guy who
> gave your navy all those satellite recon photos when
> you were defending your sheep in the Falklands
> incident. Maybe this is a good time for me to
> post a little article I did in response to that "Notice
> of Revocation of Independence" article from the
> Daily Mail that's been showing up on all the
> NGs...here ya go: (Don't take it personally, sonny...)
>
>
> NOTICE OF INVITATION TO BECOME THE FIFTY-FIRST STATE
>
> etc etc.
hunziker andreas
building a chop myself and i need some ideas how to do. if anybody else has
some ides, i'm always interested in!
andrew
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Tomas Jones
> From: "hunziker andreas" <hammon...@hotmail.com>
>
> Tomas, i also would like to see some pictures of your EIS chop. I'm
> building a chop myself and i need some ideas how to do. if anybody else has
> some ides, i'm always interested in!
Mine is packed away right now, as we are moving in the next few months. Had
to make room for boxes of book, kitchen stuff, linens, and other usekess
stuff....
Best place for photos at the moment is the EIS website.
http://www.tonewheel.com
Bob Schlicher is a wonderful person, and would probably be happy to answer
your questions.
Cheers, Tomas Jones
Stan Curtis
After due consideration and subject to negotiating some of the details
(mainly 'cos we don't understand what you are saying) we accept your offer.
Alternatively we can declare war on the USA and immediately surrender. Then
you will have to put in some occupying troops; pour in lots of "Marshall
Aid" to rebuild our industry; and adsorb our currency into the Dollar zone.
It would be wonderful. With no defence budget our taxes would fall to
single figures; plenty of soft loans for industry to build things to export
to the US; and the protection of the strongest currency in the world. Best
of all we get out of the EU with all its over regulation & undemocratic
big-government.
Life would be wonderful; we would be far enough away from Washington to be
forgotten & we could soon seduce your Military Governor to our way of
thinking. And basically most people here get on well with the Yanks even
though your beer is weak and your cars are C**P.
Thanks LV. A great idea but are you sure you've thought it through fully ?
Rev Stan
"Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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HOlse...@aol.com
beer is weak and your cars are C**P. >>
Haha! Well, Jaguar is vastly improved but British cars in general? And, of
course, RHD would be a real bitch in Chicago's rush hour traffic! Some UK
beer is okay but served warm, it tastes like it was brewed inside a horse!
It's late and I gotta get sum sleep!
Have fun,
Harvey Olsen
Musicville, Inc.
Stan Curtis
eventually.
British cars suffered for years from the benefits of Joe Lucas (Prince of
Darkness) electrical parts. In the US you suffered badly from poor
aftersales service.
There is an almost true tale about a new owner of an E-type complaining
about the bad paint finish. The Service Manager told the owner that Jaguar
only sold the engines; the body etc. came for free. So he should stop
complaining and B****R OFF. It took us some time to get used to giving good
service. It doesn't come naturally for us to be subservient. That's why we
are so good at fighting wars.
Actually there is virtually no British car industry now. Rolls-Royce &
Bentley are owned by Volkswagen & BMW. Ford owns Jaguar & Aston Martin
(great cars now); Vauxhall by GM; Lotus etc by other overseas companies.
Basically we did a good deal in selling our struggling loss-making companies
to other for hard cash.
Years ago I had a Ford Boss Mustang 302 over here. LHD was fun. Overtaking
was a case of eyes closed and throttle pushed hard to the floor. Like warm
beer you get used to it.
Enjoy your sleep.
Stan
<HOlse...@aol.com> wrote in message news:82.3394f3...@aol.com...
GK
this.
> calibration tolerances are the object, not merely replacing components.
>
> Cork H
> >
cap tolerances are so broad and it is necessary to
get
them as close to the specified value as possible for filtering and tone
shaping applications.
You are right I've never replaced any TG caps, but have pinpointed a couple
of bad ones for the real repair guy to replace. Forgive me if I
inadvertently used the word organ instead of TG. Caps manufactured with a
plus or minus 5% tolerance (tight for caps in general) gives a 10% range for
a given value. With the rest of the circuit remaining constant, the
variation in actual cap values becomes the factor in calibration tolerance.
When I said specified value, I meant for the desired outcome, not just the
value printed on the cap since it's approximate. Using a tester to determine
the actual value of the caps you are trying gives you more info to go on
than just trial and error swapping until you get what you want.
IOW component tolerance=calibration tolerance.
Looks to me like we agree, except for our opinions about Gregg Allman. But,
then again, I could be mistaken.
GK
GK
"Scott Hawthorn" <organ...@bainbridge.net> wrote >
> Yes, but you oughta hear her when she belts out "Stormy Monday"!
Now THAT'S a scary thought!
Dan ''Spiffy'' Neuman
Said LV
> "Parliament" is a brand
> of cigarettes
Also a musical group. FLASHLIGHT!!
Tony
> Sure, I remember him just fine. He was the guy who
> gave your navy all those satellite recon photos when
> you were defending your sheep in the Falklands
.Hey, at least they cleared out the Commies in Malaysa where we got out
asses kicked in Vietnam.
Yeap, they can fight and I would dare say V could get a "pop on the nose"
with remarks in person.
they likewise let Reagon bomb Omar from taking off there when other
European countries wouldn't even let 'em fly over,
and contrary to popular belief that it is Japanese the Brits own more
property in the US than any other country
I say the opposite: Let's give the Colonies back and maybe we might be able
to elect a Colonial Leader since we can't elect a President.
OT My favorite Late Night Bush joke:
Leno: "Last time George Bush was this worried about a recount was the last
time he bought 10 grams of Coke."
Tony
Scott Hawthorn
>NOTICE OF INVITATION TO BECOME THE FIFTY-FIRST STATE
>[dematerialized]
Spot on, old boy! Brilliant piece; my hat is off to your satirical skills.
I expect that this piece will find knickers tied into knots throughout The
Empire. See my letter to The Times.
Scott Hawthornington,
Earle of Pudlington-on-the-Bollocks, OBE, Ret.
Scott Hawthorn
And now, to end this thread with a whimper instead of a bang:
Two words: Lemon Pledge.
Tomas Jones
>
> And now, to end this thread with a whimper instead of a bang:
>
> Two words: Lemon Pledge.
Thanks You, Thank You, Thank You
I have been wanting to say the same thing for days...
Cheers, Tomas
Tony
> And now, to end this thread with a whimper instead of a bang:
Not so fast. Looks like your post isn't quite last yet.
>Two words: Lemon Pledge.
Sounds like somebody has been hitting the Thanksgiving table wine????
>I would really love to hear this "Tony" guy's playing! Those who wanna make
destructive comments oughta be willing to expose themselves to the same.
Nope. It was a constructive comment as anybody who can bring you to face
truth is certainly a friend. Just someone helping you with an epiphany.
Sure. I would upload something because you want to make a "destructive
comment"?
Now if you said, "If I like the recording I will put it on my Muthyafoya of
the Month and post on HT that Hamster has some Muthyafoya players!" then I
might go for it. But why should I be the only one?
Hahahahahahahahawthorn's friend,
"This guy Tony"
Scott Hawthorn
>Now if you said, "If I like the recording I will put it on my Muthyafoya of
>the Month and post on HT that Hamster has some Muthyafoya players!" then I
>might go for it.
OK, you're on. If I like the recording I will put it on my Muthyafoya of
the Month and post on HT that Hamster has some Muthyafoya players!
-Scott
Tony
the Month and post on HT that Hamster >has some Muthyafoya players!
Hmmmmmmm OK. Now the deal is "like" not a *perfect* recording as I just
recorded into my computer a couple of choruses of something or so and
processed the file down with RealProducer not a very good recording but
hearable. Deciding whether to send it and that you are on the level which I
don't think you are.
Deal is if you like it: (if I send it)
1. It goes on the Mothyafoya of the week.
2. You post on HT that Hamster has some Mothyafoyer players.
Tony
Dan ''Spiffy'' Neuman
Scott Hawthorn wrote:
> Tony-
>
> I agree to the terms.
>
> >>Deal is if you like it: (if I send it)
Problem being that, deliberate or not, there is a tendancy for someone's dislike
or diagreement w/ someone to bias their opinion. Scott may very well not like
what Tony sends purely because of his "row" with Tony. Deliberate or not.
But who knows.
Watching with just a smidgen of interest,
DAN!
Don Erickson
> British cars suffered for years from the benefits of Joe Lucas (Prince of
> Darkness) electrical parts.
My theory on this centers the lack of copper (and other raw materials) in
postwar Great Britain. Nearly all the wiring on British cars was
underguage and the lamp sockets and other contacts use so little metal as
to be begging for problems. The Lucas starters and generators, however,
seem to be perfectly servicable. Early Austin-Healeys had a grand total
of 2 (two) fuses in the fuse block, and one was for the Laycock overdrive.
> In the US you suffered badly from poor
> aftersales service.
Right, and then there's the general lack of practicality inherent in the
basic postwar USA Market for Sports Cars. Lots of new owners had no idea
how to take care of a "service intensive" car, at least by American
standards at the time, and didn't realize (or didn't care) that you had to
pay attention to them. But still, lots of things quit working on new cars
that shouldn't have.
> Years ago I had a Ford Boss Mustang 302 over here. LHD was fun. Overtaking
> was a case of eyes closed and throttle pushed hard to the floor. Like warm
> beer you get used to it.
Yeah, small block mustangs are lots of fun, until you get to a curve.
You can use the gas pedal as a power-oversteer switch on left hand turns,
rights are more problematic. And "warm" beer is perfectly wonderful
unless the beer tastes like shit to begin with, ala Budweiser and its
derivatives.
Regards,
-Don
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Gary
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:20:51 -0600 (CST), The Hammond Forum wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Stan Curtis wrote:
>
> > British cars suffered for years from the benefits of Joe Lucas
Which brought this old car joke. No offense (or is it offence?) intended.
Q: Why do the British drink warm beer?
A: Because they have Lucas refrigerators.
Gary
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Justin DiFebbo
>1) Your band/project name (if applicable)
>2) Url of your site so we can listen to some of your music
>3) Playing experience/history
>4) Your equipment
>5) Favorite artists
>
>Justin
>Justin... We're waiting for your resume.
OK... sorry I took so long, but it was a holiday week and I haven't been back to work for a while...
1) Band name: K-FLOOR (Philadelphia, PA)
2) http://www.k-floor.com
3) Playing Experience: Self-trained hack organist. I play it because I love it... I only wish I would have known about this when I was younger and gotten some lessons... I started messing around on the piano at age 15 or so... I'm 26 now. I discovered the Hammond about five years ago when someone introduced me to Jimmy Smith. Since then, it has become an obsession of mine. I snatch up any recording of anyone I can... I now lug around an A100/122 to just about every gig I play. I've been fortunate enough to find band members/roadies/friends who are willing to help move the thing around. My band has been together for about 3 years and hopefully will be coming to a town near you in the next year or so. We are essentially a rock band with blues/groove influence.
4) Equipment: A100, M3, XB2, XK2, Leslie 147, 122, Motion Sound Pro3T, Fender Rhodes
5) Favorite Artists (Hammond related): Jimmy Smith, Jimmy McGriff, Joey DeFrancesco, John Medeski, Groove Holmes, Galactic, (I still have a lot to discover...)
Other Favorite Artists: Keith Jarrett, Herbie Hancock, McCoy Tyner, Stevie Wonder, John Scofield, Zeppelin, Floyd, Beatles...
DAVE_...@qvc.com
My good friend and fellow Hammond player Justin DiFebbo just posted his
info and suggested that I do the same so... here goes:
1) Your band/project name (if applicable)
WhoZ BlueZ Band
>2) Url of your site so we can listen to some of your music
Website currently under renovation along with the band.... we are currently
auditioning new lead singers.
>3) Playing experience/history
Started out playing drums at age 9 (self-taught) played through high-school
and into my 20's with various groups (I was a singing drummer).
Also picked up the guitar at age 14 (self-taught) enough to accompany
myself singing. I messed around with the sax for awhile then switched to
Fender bass when I was 23. I played bass and sang with a few groups during
the 60's where I was introduced to the Hammond organ. I was fortunate to
have played in a group back then with a monster Hammond player who was one
of the best in the Phila area. He got an offer to play and tour with the
great Herbie Mann, but Uncle Sam had a different idea and he was drafted
into the service. I bought my first Hammond in 1969 (A100/Leslie 251).
I decided that I had better learn how to play the damn thing, so I again
began self-instruction. I regret never having any formal lessons...
self-instruction tends to allow the development of bad habits which are
much harder to break later on. Anyway, after about 6 months of practicing
scales, Vanilla Fudge, Rascals, and other songs with Hammond, I put a
group together and we played together for about a year. I had the chance
to audition with a 7-piece horn group in 1970 and was offered the gig. I
played with this group until 1974 (full-time from 1972 - 1974). We did a
few Summers at the Jersey shore (7-nights a week... 87 nights in a row).
I had pretty decent chops back then...., but that was then. I quit the
music business in 1975 and sold my Hammond. I never touched an instrument
again until 1990 when I bought an Ensoniq EPS sampler/sequencer. I messed
with this for a few years and quickly got bored (I missed the interaction
of other musicians). So, I got back into gigging again in 1994 with a
traditional blues band. For the last few years I have been with a
funk/blues band doing some clubs and openings at the TLA in Phila (where I
met Justin and had the pleasure of sharing the stage and his Bill Beer
chop). We also have played at the Jam On The River at Penns Landing in
Phila for the last two Memorial Day weekends. We also shared the stage
with Justin and K-FLOOR. Justin is developing into a fine Hammond player
by the way. At age 58, I am just having a ball.... I don't take any of it
seriously, I'm not looking for fame and fortune, I'm just having the time
of my life. I have had the opportunity to open for artists such as Koko
Taylor, Leon Russell, Robin Trower.. to name a few. We shared the same
bill with Justin's band K-FLOOR and George Clinton & Parliament, The
Wailers, The Neville Bros., Bo Diddley, Bob Weir from The Grateful Dead,
Duke Robillard, Marcia Ball... and many others. I don't consider myself
that good of a player, but I get by and I have fun.
That's what it's all about folks.... having fun.
>4) Your equipment
1963 cherry B3, Goff 122 Leslie & an original 22H. (This equipment stays
in my living room although I occasionally use the 122 on gigs, space
permitting) Hammond XK-2, Leslie 302, Motion sound PRO-3, Ensoniq EPS,
Roland KC-500, Fender K2000 keyboard amp, Voce V3/drawbars.
>5) Favorite artists
The usual jazz/blues greats... Jimmy McGriff, and Reuben Wilson in
addition to JOS and Jack and Joey.
Chester Thompson is my favorite, followed closely by Brian Auger. Lee
Michaels, Mark Stein, Felix Cavalliere, Jon Lord and Jerry Corbetta were
among my main influences.
Dave
Peter Fuchs
I just want to contribute some information to the poll...
1) Your band/project name
SOLID ROCK (Germany)
2) URL of your site so that we can listen to some of your music
http://www.solidrock-live.de
There is a german and an english version of the site. However,
the german one contains some more information...please check out both
if you´re interested. MP3s can be loaded from the SOUNDS page.
"Burn" was recorded with my Hammond. The other titles contain no
Hammond stuff.
3) Playing experience/history
I have been trained to play recorder and clarinet from age 5 to
age 15. At age 19 I started to self-instruct myself in playing
guitars.
Two years later I joined SOUTHERN COMFORT, a band that covered
Southern Rock bands like Lynyrd Skynyrd, Molly Hatchet, 38 Special,
The Outlaws, etc. and eventually evolved into the SOUTERN ROSE BAND
with a similar playlist. Concurrently I played guitars in a more
keyboard-oriented band called STEP INSIDE, which made me interested
in playing keyboards. At age 30, I started to play keyboards
with the SOUTHERN ROSE BAND as well, changing between guitars and
keyboards according to whatever was needed for the specific song.
In 1998, the band finally split up after nearly 20 years, and I
started the project which now has evolved into SOLID ROCK. Approx.
18 months ago I bought a L-100 and a Dynacord DC-100 leslie cabinet.
Having been a fan of Emerson, Lake and Palmer and Deep Purple for
decades, I have always been fascinated by the sound of the Hammond
organ.
With SOLID ROCK I continue playing guitars/keyboards 50/50. We´re
in something like a startup state at the moment, having played
our first gigs this year. After integrating our new bass player
we will certainly do more gigs next year.
My playing style is very rock-oriented. I don´t rate myself a very
skilled Hammond player and I am surely not comparable to those
classical or jazz organists that are often mentioned in this forum.
But I share Dave´s point of view: I get by and I have fun - that´s
what it´s all about! Today, I am 40 years old and have done approx.
100 gigs (approx. 50 as a keyboard player) in different clubs and
venues, sometimes as an opener.
4) Your equipment
Keyboard-oriented:
1963/64 L-100 (German Model) Serial# 28822; chopped and souped-up
(still looking for spare parts or other organs in my area to
cannibalize for foldback purposes); I use the L-100 both during
rehearsals and onstage
Dynacord Leslie DC-100
Fatar Midi72 master keyboard
Roland JX-3P
Roland D-5
EMU Classic Keys and Yamaha TG33 expanders
Korg S-770 Synthesizer
Additional note:
My experience is, that a real Hammond (even a L-100) onstage is
better than a perfect Hammond (B-3) emulation within a computer or
expander, when we talk about the effect on the audience. I think
that the sound perception in a live situation is very much
influenced by what you SEE onstage. And a wooden cabinet with
drawbars and everything onstage together with a visible rotating
speaker IMO is much more convincing than any plastic case or
computer, even if some spectrum analyzer tells you that it is closer
to what we call "the" sound...
What is your opinion?
5) Favourite artists
Deep Purple/Jon Lord, EL&P/Keith Emerson, Uriah Heep/Ken Hensley,
Santana/Gregg Rolie, Led Zeppelin, Steppenwolf, Eric Clapton...
Regards from Germany
Peter
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Tony...@aol.com
1) Your band/project name
Dirty Dog (current project)
2) URL of your site so that we can listen to some of
your music.
This is currently in the works for the Dirt Dog
project.
3) Playing experience/history
Into the Way-Back machine when I was a wee lad:
Age seven,I wanted to be Louie Armstrong the all
American Boy (really) or Al Hurt. In the Late
fifties trumpet was a commercially viable
instrument and I wanted to be Louie blowing the
big note. My grandfater, a party giggng sicilian
guitar player and his sidekick "shorty" on mandolin,
along with Loue, Al and I must include Nat King
Cole and Errol Gardnier, Buddy Rich and Gene
Kruper (my brother is a drummer) were my first
inspirations.
I studied trumpet for about 6 months age 7 and
dropped it. My lip was not able to pull trumpet
of at that point. I was able to play "Puff the
Magic Dragon " rather well though. This would have
further ramifications later on. Age 8 switched to
Accordian. My new idol was Dick Contino spelling?).
Studied Palmer method for 4 years. BasicallyEuropean
Palor music. Lady of Spain, Polkas, Way Marie,
Man on the Flying Trapez....the original Euro.
Loved doing that euro trash and watching "Combat".
A kind of Nihilist/Anarchistic streak
counterbalanced by those great accordian pieces!
To speed things up a bit....1966-67 stopped
accordian lessons. 1963-67 grammer school rock
band phase complete with notebook drawing of band
set ups and amps and drums (Ventures,LouiLoui).
Listened to alot of Beatles albums.
1968 dropped the accordian and bought a GEM
combo organ and a black face Fender Bassman(CBS).
Played Doors,Rascals,Dylan,Airplane, Sam & Dave and
Gloria at 8th grade backyard graduation parties. I
was hooked! Started to plunk away at my Aunts Piano
frequently. Absolutly no left hand(those f&&ken
buttons).
1969 was asked by the "older guys" to join their
band. Hammond was happenning. Bought a M3 and a 145.
Played High School Dances with an "A" dance band,
from 1969 to 71 playin mostly every weekend.
Material was Bee Gees, Supremes, Creedance,
Booker T., Beatles....
1972..same band (M3/145)....moved into club
scene....electrified/smokin rock...Doobies,
Mountain,Spooky Tooth....later Tull, Joe Walsh,
Stones, Deep Purple.. gigged on road on /off until
74/75 in northeast. Wrote a few originals recorded
as a test band by Johnny Maestro(Brooklyn Bridge).
Later gigged with Hammond CV/122, RMI piano, Mini
Moog.
Stopped playing almost completly and went to
collage. Started working on Bach inventions.
in Junior year on piano.
1980-85 Studied Composition/Theory with a childhood
friend teaching at the "Jazz Workshop" in
Manhatten. He is a Grammy winning Jingle
write in Manhatten. Worked out alot of Steely Dan
and Doobies with Michael McDonald material...
cycle of fourths, 251 etc...
1988-present studying Be-Bop improvizational Piano
a la Lennie Tristano school with private teacher.
This has been the most important musical
event of my life. It's a wonderful thing.
Teacher: Larry Bluth - BMC Trio - Zinnia Records
Various Blues gigs on Long Island including
working with Palmetto blues artist Kerry Kearney.
Kerry opens for the Allmans on some tours and has
recently gigged at BB Kings in Manhatten on a
recommendation from Gregg. He rotates 3 keyboard
players in the chair. Hopefully I can get asked on
an Allmans tour..! Would take a leave of absence
from my day gig. (Systems Analyst)
Asked into "Dirty Dog" project. This is kinda
a Black Crows/Stonesy Blues Rock Band....lookin
for an independant deal......Good Band!
4) Your equipment
1966 Hammond B3/122RV, XK-2, (NEW) Korg CX-3, KX-88
Korg SGX-PRo, RD-600, Roland A-50, Alesis QS 6,
Oberheim MiniGrand, GEM pro1 module, JV-880,
Korg N1r, Roland MKS-20, Akai S2000, Oberheim-
OB3 2, Peavey KB-300a,MS Pro 3t, Motion sound-
KBR3d, 147 leslie / combo preamp.
5) Favourite artists
Nat King Cole, Errol Gardner, Loui Armstrong
Al Hurt, Ventures, Beatles, Peter Paul Mary,
Kingston Trio, Dick Contino, Buddy Rich, Gene
Kruper, Beach Boys, Doors, Felix and Rascals,
Al Kooper/Mike Bloomfield/John Lord/ Booker T.
Jerry Lee Lewis,Johnny Johnson, Bud Powell,
Lennie Tristano, Lyle Mays, Joe Zawinuel,
John Evans(Tull),Garth Hudson, Chuck Leavell,
Bill Payne, T Lavitz, Otis Spann, Nicky Hopkins
Kieth Jarret,Chick Corea, Charlie Parker,
Lester Young,Donald Fagen,Greg Role,Joey
D,J.Smith,Dr John.....etc...
I like to consider my self for Rock and Blues
most like:
B.Payne,C.Leavell
In Jazz: in the spirit of jazz
like:
"Myself"....
Note:
Vincent Van Gough didn't sell one painting
while he was alive...! But he had a passion
that kept him going even without much commercial
support. The other artists knew the deal
though..I feel this site should be
alittle friendlier concerning attitudes and
opinions..There is a big difference
between Van Gough and Rembrant.....You tell
me which one burned hotter!!!
Tony C.
Tony...@aol.com
on my last post......! I did spell a few words and names wrong....I'm doing this in work and am alittle hurried .....
Thanks
TonyKeyz
Andy
I need help!
Please, could somebody advise how and where I can get some schematics
of Hammond CV.
Thank you for your help and cooperation.
Best regards.
Andy.
H Davis
>
> Dear friends!
> I need help!
> Please, could somebody advise how and where I can get some schematics
> of Hammond CV.
> Thank you for your help and cooperation.
> Best regards.
> Andy.
Is there some specific portion that you need? If so perhaps I can
scan it and send it via email.
Hal