Hammond L100 compared to B3
BB
I can buy a Hammond L100 with Leslie, does it sound the same as a
A100/B3/C3?
thanks
BB
BB
Lord Valve
LV
Dan ''Spiffy'' Neuman
should play it yourself and decide if you're happy with the sound (for
the price). Furthermore, how much does it cost? The lovely people on
this lsit can give you an idea as to whether or not it's worth the price
they're asking for it.
GOOD LUCK!
Happy with my T200 Chop,
Oh yeah! if you're looking for left hand bass, pedals, or foldback,
forget that on the L100 or any spinet. The vibrado also leaves something
to be desired. But there's a tonewheel generator, similar percussion (I
believe) and a nice tube amp in there for ya!
DAN!
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In a message dated 6/18/00 7:46:43 PM, bos...@worldonline.nl writes:
<< Hello,
I can buy a Hammond L100 with Leslie, does it sound the same as a
A100/B3/C3?
thanks
BB >>
The same?…No. Better than anything you could buy for a few hundred
bucks?…absolutely! Look also for M100s & M3s. All of these burn equally well
I think (where's Steve?) Hey, BB doesn't stand for "Brother Bob" does it?
If you let any of these spinets get their hooks into you, you'll soon want
the real deal.
Father Gino
Frank
should stick to synths.
Only kidding, you must be a youngster. The L is a piece of shit. Throw
it away.
Frank
BB wrote:
> Hello,
> I can buy a Hammond L100 with Leslie, does it sound the same as a
> A100/B3/C3?
> thanks
> BB
>
Dan ''Spiffy'' Neuman
> Oh yeah! if you're looking for left hand bass, pedals, or foldback,
> forget that on the L100 or any spinet. The vibrado also leaves something
> to be desired. But there's a tonewheel generator, similar percussion (I
> believe) and a nice tube amp in there for ya!
Ooops, left out the key factor-- on an L, you get synth type "diving board"
keys. Whereas on the B3 you get more pianoy, "waterfall" keys. Not a big
difference for me but it is for many.
GOOD LUCK!
DAN!
Bob Scarborough
>Hello,
>I can buy a Hammond L100 with Leslie, does it sound the same as a
Nope...no foldback, no scanner vibrato. Also, you don't say which Leslie.
Probably a 125, which is good boxwood. M100, M-3...better, but lacking
foldback. Most can make an M schpinette sound pretty much like a console,
1.) if foldback is added, and they work up near the top of the upper manual
a lot, 2.) you only play three fingered chords a lot anyway. Problem with
an M is they look funny...people point and laugh a lot. One easy way
around this problem is to use a scrim box of some kind, and plop a synth on
top of it. Then, nobody can see it, anyway, and it'll sound about the same.
DeserTBoB
Bull...@aol.com
bos...@worldonline.nl writes:
<< Hello,
I can buy a Hammond L100 with Leslie, does it sound the same as a
A100/B3/C3?
thanks >>
I thinks the question here is does it cost as much?? that's the answer
Magnus Enorson
> Hello,
> I can buy a Hammond L100 with Leslie, does it sound the same as a
> A100/B3/C3? thanks BB
Since Mr. BB seem to be located in the Netherlands, it might very
well be the case that the L-100 is his "standard" Hammond sound.
The famous and talented Tijs Van Leer of Focus used L-100s.
L-100s tend to be much more appreciated in Europe than in the US,
for the simple reason that they are much more abundant here. They
also fetch much much higher prices here than in the US.
As many people have told you, a key factor here is which Leslie
model is included in the deal. Usually, if this has been a "gig" organ
in the past, you will find a Leslie 760 (or 770) attached to it, and if it
has been a home instrument chances are high that it is a 145. Both
are good value for money when combined with a L-100... but for use
with better instruments (remember the L-100 is the entry-level
tonewheel Hammond) try to stay clear of the 760, which has a very
brittle and unpleasant treble response; albeit with a thundering bass.
Please come back and fill us in with more details and we can say
whether this is a good deal or not.
Is the organ stock, with the original case and pedals or has it been
(god forbid) cut down? Which model Leslie is included? And, what
is the asking price?
I'd be happy to help. Please do consider that our american friends
cast their judgements out of an entirely different situation than the
european one. Over here most people don't consider the L-100 a
piece of crap, although everyone knows it's far from great.
/Magnus
Worra
>
> Since Mr. BB seem to be located in the Netherlands, it might very
> well be the case that the L-100 is his "standard" Hammond sound.
> The famous and talented Tijs Van Leer of Focus used L-100s.
>
Shade Of Pale" was recorded using an L-100
//Worra
Doug S
desirability is:
B3
C3 or A-100 (series)
H-100
E-100
M-100
L-100
Variations included number of presets (and different presets for the
H-100 ?), preset style (tabs vs reverse keys), keys per manual,
style of keys, type of vibrato ? Anything else of substance ?
Doug (starting to look... ideally for an A-100, since it's self-
contained)
--
Doug S. (do...@cc.ysu.edu) (http://cc.ysu.edu/~doug/)
The shadow of a dog never bit anyone -- Kenneth Copeland
Steve Leigh
>I can buy a Hammond L100 with Leslie, does it sound the same as a
>A100/B3/C3?
Newbies, wannabees, and wishers unite - see Mike Fulk on Aisle 7.
Better idea - get off yer ass, go out and play em. Now you tell US - do
they sound the same?
Steve Leigh - sle...@tampabay.rr.com
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/steveleigh
Steve Leigh
>One easy way
>around this problem is to use a scrim box of some kind, and plop a synth on
>top of it. Then, nobody can see it, anyway, and it'll sound about the same.
ROFLMAO! GLADYS!! Is dat YOU Gurl?????
Magnus Enorson
> If I follow this and other discussions right, the "pecking order" for
> desirability is:
This is my personal opinion only, and I'm sure not all will agree, but I
would add a few models and strike a few:
>
> B3
> C3 or A-100 (series)
B-2/C-2
BV/CV
BC/D
A/AB
> E-100
M-3
> M-100
> L-100
P-100/Porta-B
T-100 series
Note that the H-100 isn't even on my list... sorry folks ;-)
>
> Variations included number of presets (and different presets for the
> H-100 ?), preset style (tabs vs reverse keys), keys per manual, style
> of keys, type of vibrato ? Anything else of substance ?
Number of pedals.
As a side note... the question "anything else of substance?" seems
a bit misplaced since the factors you named pretty much defines the
whole organ.
/Magnus
Dave Bentley
<detr...@ix.netcom.com> writes
>HELL no.
>LV
>
>BB wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> A100/B3/C3?
>> BB
>
No, but is can still kick ass if you're playing it in a rock group on
overdrive and like stick knives in it, pitch bending and playing with
the reverb springs!
--
Dave Bentley
Dave Bentley
<wo...@telia.com> writes
>
>>
>> Since Mr. BB seem to be located in the Netherlands, it might very
>> well be the case that the L-100 is his "standard" Hammond sound.
>> The famous and talented Tijs Van Leer of Focus used L-100s.
>>
>As did Jon Lord / Deep Purple in the early days, and I'm told that "Whiter
>Shade Of Pale" was recorded using an L-100
>
If you want to hear an L1OO in all it's glory check out the Album "Nice"
by The Nice (their 3rd Album , released in 1969) Keith Emerson made
this "piece of shit" as some of you have called it, sound awsome,
particularly on the tracks Rondo'69 and She Belongs to Me.
So to those of you who think the L100 sucks, you're talking nonsense.
Bob Scarborough
>ROFLMAO! GLADYS!! Is dat YOU Gurl?????
Da's RI'! Ah be HEUH! ....'cept'n I dun SAT onna PIP!
Steve Leigh
>At 09:41 AM 6/19/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >ROFLMAO! GLADYS!! Is dat YOU Gurl?????
>
>Da's RI'! Ah be HEUH! ....'cept'n I dun SAT onna PIP!
OMG gurl!! Kin he still do the "whoooooop whoooooooooo!" parts??
--
Andrew Panther
list
Another question: Is there any consensus out there that the 122 Leslie
is the most favoured match for the B-3 / C-3 ?
Andrew (Aussie)
Doug S wrote:
> If I follow this and other discussions right, the "pecking order" for
> desirability is:
>
> B3
> C3 or A-100 (series)
> H-100
> E-100
> M-100
> L-100
>
> Variations included number of presets (and different presets for the
> H-100 ?), preset style (tabs vs reverse keys), keys per manual,
> style of keys, type of vibrato ? Anything else of substance ?
>
> Doug (starting to look... ideally for an A-100, since it's self-
> contained)
> --
> Doug S. (do...@cc.ysu.edu) (http://cc.ysu.edu/~doug/)
>
> The shadow of a dog never bit anyone -- Kenneth Copeland
>
Joe Sestrich
area, in good condition, owned by an older lady church organist as a home
organ? No Leslie included. She had one, but I have no idea where it ended
up.
I inherited it, being the only surviving musician in the family, but I was
never much of a keyboardist, and my talents run more towards piano anyway.
Easier to "strum" and fake it on. I'd like to move it out, but I don't want
to get ripped off, and I don't even have a ballpark idea of what to ask for
it.
Other than an ad in the local paper, is there any online resources to sell
used Hammonds? I was surprised to find enough interest in them to sustain a
newsgroup.
--On Monday, June 19, 2000, 2:00 AM -0500 Bull...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 06/18/00 6:46:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
> bos...@worldonline.nl writes:
>
> << Hello,
> I can buy a Hammond L100 with Leslie, does it sound the same as a
> A100/B3/C3?
> thanks >>
> I thinks the question here is does it cost as much?? that's the answer
Bull...@aol.com
js...@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
<<
What *would* be a fair asking price for an L-100, in the Pittsburgh, PA
area, in good condition, owned by an older lady church organist as a home
organ? No Leslie included. She had one, but I have no idea where it ended
up. >>
Without a Leslie , L-100's usually go in the $100 range around the Midwest
region.
Harry L.
Denise Noris
Mathew Fisher
and
"double-p <doub...@netsync.net>
Guys, I have discovered if you should ever want the floors vacuumed in your
house all you have to do is sit down to your organ, start playing, and
appear to be enjoying yourself. By the second song, your wife or
significant other will get the vacuum out and start pushing it about the
house.. I have noticed definate patterns in this procedure and wondered if
any of you share in this unexplained happening.."
the same thing happens in Italy, at times even before the end of the first
...
Maurizio
za...@inwind.it
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>
> >
> > Since Mr. BB seem to be located in the Netherlands, it might very
> > well be the case that the L-100 is his "standard" Hammond sound.
> > The famous and talented Tijs Van Leer of Focus used L-100s.
> >
> As did Jon Lord / Deep Purple in the early days, and I'm told that "Whiter
> Shade Of Pale" was recorded using an L-100
>
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Its the player.
Keith Emerson used the L's throughout his life even with ELP (with the C3)
One guy can haul it in his van.
Keith ran his through leslies and Marshalls.
BUT!. . . He could play. Can you? Prove it.
I run mine through a neo ventilator and play Tarkus all the way through.
Highly gratifying. Are you telling me my feeling of satisfaction is "shit".
Take a long cruise on a slow ship . . . Dude.
bm
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