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SassyMs69

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Oct 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/18/98
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First off I want to say how cool it is to finally see a newsgroup devoted to
music gossip! So how about a discussion about GROUPIES?

Has anyone here read Pamela Des Barres' book, "I'm With The Band"? Or how about
"Rock Groupie" by Connie Hamzy (aka Sweet Connie)?

Who do you think are today's biggest well-known groupies? My vote goes to
Winona Ryder, Helena Christiansen, Patsy Kensit, Naomi Campbell...Do we see a
pattern here? Mostly models and actresses.

Courtney Love was a big groupie before she hooked up with Ed Norton. Besides
Kurt Cobain, she was with Billy Corgan, Michael Stipe, Evan Dando, Trent
Reznor, and who knows how many others.

And finally, does anyone have any groupie stories to share?

smo...@ihateads.com

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Oct 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/18/98
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In article <19981018151018...@ng103.aol.com>,
sass...@aol.com (SassyMs69) wrote:

First, while Courtney Love hung out with Michael Stipe, I doubt she was
"with" him. He prefers much younger men, preferable pretty ones. He
hasn't really been linked sexually with a woman in a decade at least. And
if Courtney's a groupie for being with Corgan, Dando and Reznor, aren't
they groupies for being with her? She's a musician too.
I think it would be fun to list the male groupies too, you know those
whose partners are often models, actresses or musicians. That would be an
awfully long list. I loved Des Barres Book. Also Babe Buell (sp?), the
mother of Liv Tyler, and former partner of Tyler, Todd Rundgren, Jimmie
Page and others equally as famous, wrote a memoir in Details magazine a
couple of years ago that was terrific. I hope she turns it into a book
soon.

emma (netcom just added amg!)

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TupeloMiss

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Oct 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/18/98
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Hi y'all,

I'm really glad this newsgroup has been started! I have a book called
"Groupie" by Jenny Fabian; she was an old-school groupie back in the sixties.
The book is fiction, but her exploits are well-noted and she was written up in
a Cosmo article about groupies at the time which I also have a copy of around
somewhere. I also have "Rock Wives" which includes essays and interviews with
and about lotsa wives and girlfriends as well as Cyndi Lauper's ex-husband, the
one token male. Anyone else here remember the AGS Bebe Buell thread? Yee-haw!
Let's get to it!

Tupelo
Dusting off the laminated passes and joining in!

FreeGratis

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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I have "Rock Wives". "I'm With the Band" plus an incredibly old rotting
paperback copy of "Groupies and other girls" printed back in the sixties. It
was an extension of an article in Rolling Stone, I think...anyway, there was a
pic in there of Devon, who some credit with turning Jimi Hendrix on to heroin.

I'd LOVE to see what Bebe has to dish.

BTW, Pamela Des Barres has a website, sorry I don't have the URL, but if you do
a search you'll find it. It's electricgypsy something...anyway, check it out.
It's better if you have sound.


-marianna
nobody ever lends money to a man with a sense of
humor

EvelynR

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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In article <19981018195943...@ng84.aol.com>, tupel...@aol.com
(TupeloMiss) writes:

> Anyone else here remember the AGS Bebe Buell thread? Yee-haw!
> Let's get to it!

Puh-leeze don't mention B*b* B**ll's name...you might wake up sleeping trolls
:P
Somewhere around here I have Hammer of the Gods, which I read for the first
time recently...I was wondering WEHT Jimmy Page's groupie g/f whose name I
can't remember...she was the teenage model from LA that he "dated" for years
and I think she was a friend of Pamela DesBarres.

Evelyn

TupeloMiss

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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Evelyn writes:

<<Somewhere around here I have Hammer of the Gods, which I read for the first
time recently...I was wondering WEHT Jimmy Page's groupie g/f whose name I
can't remember...she was the teenage model from LA that he "dated" for years
and I think she was a friend of Pamela DesBarres.>>

Lori Maddox -- glad to be of service!

Tupelo
Your resident groupie historiaoioaioaioan

Twinstar66

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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sass...@aol.com wrote:

<<Has anyone here read Pamela Des Barres' book, "I'm With The Band"? Or how
about "Rock Groupie" by Connie Hamzy (aka Sweet Connie)?>>

I once owned a book that came out in the mid-to-late 70s called "I, A Groupie,"
which was "fiction" but, rumor had it, was the thinly veiled story of Lisa
Robinson, who was a very well-known rock journalist in the 70s and 80s (anybody
here old enough to remember the heydey of Creem Magazine back when it was good
will surely remember Lisa). LIsa was a BIG groupie before she gained some
legitimacy by marrying producer/manager Richard Robinson (and thus gained
respectable entree into the rock world when he got her some writing gigs). If
any of you ever see this book at a used book store, pick it up, it's a hoot.

Bebe's article in Details was pretty good, but it should be noted that
everything that Miss B says should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. I ran
in the same circles as her quite a few years ago, and poor Bebe was always a
bit delusional about her importance in the grand scheme of things (and I was
screaming about the "historiaoioaioaioan" remark, Tupelo - I used to post in
asg under another name, and I remember the Bebe thread all too well).

I'd like to hear more about the Connie Hamzy book - I've never seen it around.
How long has it been out? And the Jenny Fabian book is a good dishy read.

The last I heard about Lori Maddox was a few years back, when Robert Plant
played in LA on one of his solo tours. She was evidently in hot pursuit of the
cute young boys in Robert's band and made quite a nuisance of herself
throughout their stay in LA (and this came straight from one of the cute young
boys himself).

-Twinstar (who obviously knows WAY too much about groupies)

EvelynR

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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In article <19981019012132...@ng83.aol.com>, tupel...@aol.com
(TupeloMiss) writes:

>Evelyn writes:
>
><<Somewhere around here I have Hammer of the Gods, which I read for the first
>time recently...I was wondering WEHT Jimmy Page's groupie g/f whose name I
>can't remember...she was the teenage model from LA that he "dated" for years
>and I think she was a friend of Pamela DesBarres.>>
>
>Lori Maddox -- glad to be of service!

Wow, thanks, Tupelo -- I'm in awe of your vast groupie knowledge ;-)

BTW, somebody mentioned the LedZep groupie/fish thingie -- several years ago
when Alice in Chains were on tour, they had this stuffed and mounted fish on
stage with them, which they claimed was *the* fish, retrieved from whichever
hotel in Seattle it happened in. LOL.

Evelyn, wondering if the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame would be interested in
exhibiting the fish

Gillian Hardy

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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>In article <19981018151018...@ng103.aol.com>,
>sass...@aol.com (SassyMs69) wrote:

>> And finally, does anyone have any groupie stories to share?

I used to know someone who had shagged Damon Albarn from Blur. Not
much cop by all accounts.


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SassyMs69

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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<<I was wondering WEHT Jimmy Page's groupie g/f whose name I
can't remember...she was the teenage model from LA that he "dated" for years
and I think she was a friend of Pamela DesBarres.>>

Her name is Lori Maddox and I don't think she and Pamela Des Barres were ever
friends. (Jimmy Page dumped Pamela for Lori and then he dumped Lori for Bebe
Buell.) I read in a magazine article about two years ago that Lori was working
at the Beverly Center, a shopping mall in L.A.

I also remember several years ago seeing Lori on Sally Jessy Raphael's talk
show and the subject (of course) was groupies. I vaguely recall Lori and
another ex-groupie had a war of words on the show about who knew Jimmy Page
better.

SassyMs69

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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twins...@aol.com (Twinstar66) wrote:

<<I once owned a book that came out in the mid-to-late 70s called "I, A
Groupie,"
which was "fiction" but, rumor had it, was the thinly veiled story of Lisa
Robinson, who was a very well-known rock journalist in the 70s and 80s (anybody
here old enough to remember the heydey of Creem Magazine back when it was good
will surely remember Lisa). LIsa was a BIG groupie before she gained some
legitimacy by marrying producer/manager Richard Robinson (and thus gained
respectable entree into the rock world when he got her some writing gigs). If
any of you ever see this book at a used book store, pick it up, it's a hoot.>>>

Lisa is still a music journalist--she writes a syndicated column and does
stories for the New York Post. I seem to recall hearing stories that she had a
huge crush on Robert Plant. Lisa was heavily into Mick Jagger too. Could you
share more details you remember from that thinly veiled book about her? Any
juicy stories? I doubt if I'll be able to find that book anywhere.

<<<Bebe's article in Details was pretty good, but it should be noted that
everything that Miss B says should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. I ran
in the same circles as her quite a few years ago, and poor Bebe was always a
bit delusional about her importance in the grand scheme of things (and I was
screaming about the "historiaoioaioaioan" remark, Tupelo - I used to post in
asg under another name, and I remember the Bebe thread all too well).>>>

Something about Bebe Buell annoys me. Liv Tyler is adorable though.

<<I'd like to hear more about the Connie Hamzy book - I've never seen it
around.
How long has it been out?>>

It's called "Rock Groupie: The Intimate Adventures Of Sweet Connie." I was
published in 1995 but it's out of print. I never saw it in a bookstore and I
tried ordering it through Amazon.com but they couldn't find it. A friend of
mine had the interview she did with Penthouse and Connie sure knows how to dish
the dirt. She claims Huey Lewis had the biggest penis of all the rock stars she
slept with. I also remember seeing Connie on Hard Copy (or was it A Current
Affair) a couple of times. Apparently rock stars werent the only celebrities
she's done the deed with...She's said she's had sex with Bill Clinton when he
was governor of Arkansas.

<<And the Jenny Fabian book is a good dishy read.>>

I have that book but I didn't find it as enjoyable as Pamel Des Barres book
"I'm With The Band."

<<<The last I heard about Lori Maddox was a few years back, when Robert Plant
played in LA on one of his solo tours. She was evidently in hot pursuit of the
cute young boys in Robert's band and made quite a nuisance of herself
throughout their stay in LA (and this came straight from one of the cute young
boys himself).>>

I just posted a message to someone about Lori Maddox. The last I heard of her
was few years ago, when I read in a magazine article that she was working at


the Beverly Center, a shopping mall in L.A.

-SassyMs69 --someone who also knows WAY too much about groupies.

Kristi Coulter

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:37:47 -0400, smo...@ihateads.com wrote:


> I think it would be fun to list the male groupies too, you know those
>whose partners are often models, actresses or musicians. That would be an
>awfully long list. I loved Des Barres Book. Also Babe Buell (sp?), the

>mother of Liv Tyler, and former partner of Tyler, Todd Rundgren, Jimmie
>Page and others equally as famous,

including Elvis Costello in the early part of his career! There's
some great stuff on their relationship in Legs McNeil's oral history
of punk, "Please Kill Me" (a must-read for anyone who loves music
gossip).

Kristi

SassyMs69

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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>Hi y'all,

> I also have "Rock Wives" which includes essays and interviews
>with
>and about lotsa wives and girlfriends as well as Cyndi Lauper's ex-husband,
>the
>one token male.

I don't have that book but I read it and I thought it was interesting. I don't
think there's ever been a book like that before or since.

>> Anyone else here remember the AGS >>Bebe Buell thread?

Maybe I shouldn't ask, but since I wasn't there for that thread...What was it
like? I'm guessing it was somewhat controversial.

SassyMs69

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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>BTW, Pamela Des Barres has a website, sorry I don't have the URL, but if you
>do
>a search you'll find it. It's electricgypsy something...anyway, check it out.
>It's better if you have sound.

It's at http://www.electricgypsy.com/pamela

It's her official web site and occasionally Pamela herself drops in for a chat.

You can also sign up to be on the Pamela Des Barres e-mail list. They just
announced that E! Entertainment Television is working on a "E! True Hollywood
Story" episode on Pamela. I can't wait to see it! It's supposed to be airing
sometime in January I think.

SassyMs69
(someone who is endlessly fascinated with the rock lifestyle and is somewhat a
groupie herself without the "slut" factor involved)

Catty

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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On 19 Oct 1998 01:59:53 GMT, freeg...@aol.comgerbil (FreeGratis)
wrote:

>I have "Rock Wives". "I'm With the Band" plus an incredibly old rotting
>paperback copy of "Groupies and other girls" printed back in the sixties. It
>was an extension of an article in Rolling Stone, I think...anyway, there was a
>pic in there of Devon, who some credit with turning Jimi Hendrix on to heroin.
>
>I'd LOVE to see what Bebe has to dish.
>

>BTW, Pamela Des Barres has a website, sorry I don't have the URL, but if you do
>a search you'll find it. It's electricgypsy something...anyway, check it out.
>It's better if you have sound.
>

Thanks. I checked it out. Quite cool. It's www.electricgypsy.com and
it contains a few amusing photos of 'Me and my friend', 'Me', 'Me and
Al Henerix' and 'Me again.'

BTW, does anyone know how old her son is now?

Catty

EvelynR

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Speaking of groupies, I just read in Entertainment Weekly that Jonathan Demme
is planning to make a movie based on the Go Go's history of sex, drugs &
rock'n'roll...they mentioned that some of their male groupies include a Brat
Packer (Rob Lowe, I assume?) and a LA Dodger. I vaguely remember one of the
GoGos dating a baseball player -- was it Mike Marshall and Belinda Carlisle?

Evelyn

TupeloMiss

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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>There's
>some great stuff on their relationship in Legs McNeil's oral history
>of punk, "Please Kill Me" (a must-read for anyone who loves music
>gossip).

I am appealing to all AMG readers NOT to buy this book until Legs pays me the
money he's owed me for the past seven years. Not another dime in this weasel's
pocket, please!

Tupelo
A tiny groupie in her own right

Longbourne

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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In article <362a7c9d...@news.demon.co.uk>, gil...@agnetha.demon.co.uk
(Gillian Hardy) writes:

>>In article <19981018151018...@ng103.aol.com>,
>>sass...@aol.com (SassyMs69) wrote:
>
>>> And finally, does anyone have any groupie stories to share?
>
>I used to know someone who had shagged Damon Albarn from Blur. Not
>much cop by all accounts.

Was that during one of his 79 breakups with Justine Frischmann? I read that
they split up yet again but my money is on a reconciliation. Though maybe
Justine hates the fact that Damon is the prettier one LOL. OTOH, I also have
heard that they had an open relationship, so I suppose the shagging could've
occurred during one of their on-periods.

Laura


Julie

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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SassyMs69 wrote:
>
> >BTW, Pamela Des Barres has a website, sorry I don't have the URL, but if you
> >do
> >a search you'll find it. It's electricgypsy something...anyway, check it out.
> >It's better if you have sound.
>
> It's at http://www.electricgypsy.com/pamela
>
> It's her official web site and occasionally Pamela herself drops in for a chat.
>
> You can also sign up to be on the Pamela Des Barres e-mail list. They just
> announced that E! Entertainment Television is working on a "E! True Hollywood
> Story" episode on Pamela. I can't wait to see it! It's supposed to be airing
> sometime in January I think.

Man, I am all over that one!! I've read Pamela's first two books and
thought she was the luckiest chick on the planet, not to mention a good
writer and a pretty cool person. God, to be able to go back in time, in
her shoes, for just one day...

Julie

>
> SassyMs69
> (someone who is endlessly fascinated with the rock lifestyle and is somewhat a
> groupie herself without the "slut" factor involved)

Me too. My friends think I'm strange..

Gillian Hardy

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Gillian stopped doing the Hustle and noticed that on 20 Oct 1998

03:35:06 GMT, longb...@aol.com (Longbourne) had been moved to write:


>Was that during one of his 79 breakups with Justine Frischmann?

Before Justine. Said person I used to know had sex with him in about
1991. He was pissed and not very good by all accounts.

Longbourne

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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gil...@agnetha.demon.co.uk (Gillian Hardy) wrote:

<>>Was that during one of his 79 breakups with Justine Frischmann?

Before Justine. Said person I used to know had sex with him in about
1991. He was pissed and not very good by all accounts.>>

Pissed is Brit slang for drunk, correct?

When did he and Justine first start dating? It seemed like they were together
forever, or maybe just since 1994. Hell, that is forever in rock terms.

Laura


Catty

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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They are practically married, Laura. They have been together for about
eight or nine years.

Catty

Penguin0

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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I'm not speaking ill of the dead - I swear! - but wasn't Linda Eastman
McCartney somewhat of a groupie before she snagged Paul???

Christine
(who wanted to be a groupie, but never made it, alas)

SassyMs69

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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She was more of a "legitimate" groupie because she got a lot of access to bands
as a photographer. She definitely had her sights set on Paul from the
beginning. Linda first met Paul by getting herself invited to the Sgt. Pepper
premiere party as a photographer. From what I've read, she was pregnant when
they got married. Paul had a reputation of being a playboy (even though he was
living with Jane Asher) and because he was such an world-famous heartthrob, I
would imagine that any woman that ended up marrying him would have to do some
serious planning to meet him and go to great lengths to hook up with him.
Nothing wrong with that if it ends up being true love, which I believe it was.

Patranoid

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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>
This is where the groupie thing gets tricky. When you have a legit (i.e,
non-groupie) reason to meet the person, you're not quite a groupie...even if
you wouldn't have met the person without that specific (often quirky) reason.

I remember a conversation with a person I admire quite a bit who got to meet a
writer because of that kind of legitimacy connection. I started looking at
these things differently after that.

pat...who suspects that the "groupie" appellation frequently comes from sour
grapes

SassyMs69

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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>>
>This is where the groupie thing gets tricky. When you have a legit (i.e,
>non-groupie) reason to meet the person, you're not quite a groupie...even if
>you wouldn't have met the person without that specific (often quirky) reason.
>
>I remember a conversation with a person I admire quite a bit who got to meet
>a
>writer because of that kind of legitimacy connection. I started looking at
>these things differently after that.
>
>pat...who suspects that the "groupie" appellation frequently comes from sour
>grapes
>
>

Sometimes someone who is just a "fan" unfairly gets labeled a groupie. But I
think it's fair to call someone a groupie if she/he wants to date/have sex
with the object of their desire and they go to certain lengths to do it. I also
think there are some groupies who aren't necessarily out for sex, but they
follow the object of their desire around on tour.


Patranoid

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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sass...@aol.com (SassyMs69) wrote about what I wrote:

>>
>>I remember a conversation with a person I admire quite a bit who got to meet
>>a
>>writer because of that kind of legitimacy connection. I started looking at
>>these things differently after that.
>>
>>pat...who suspects that the "groupie" appellation frequently comes from sour
>>grapes
>>
>>
>
>Sometimes someone who is just a "fan" unfairly gets labeled a groupie. But I
>think it's fair to call someone a groupie if she/he wants to date/have sex
>with the object of their desire and they go to certain lengths to do it. I
>also
>think there are some groupies who aren't necessarily out for sex, but they
>follow the object of their desire around on tour.
>

I realized after I sent off the earlier post that the example I gave was
probably more of a fandom-type thing, than a groupiedom one. The line between
the two isn't always real clear, I guess, but I agree that groupies are either
out for sex or some other kind of rather personal contact (not just standing
outside a studio, asking for an autograph). It seems that this is often the
pursuit of anybody who fits a certain category (i.e., musician)--rather than
even necessarily of a specific figure (though, of course, there's
"notches-on-the-belt approach" to "acquiring" certain prominent celebs).

Another distinction seems to be that fans get satisfaction just from being a
follower/consumer of someone's work, where groupies seem to need to gain some
kind of status through becoming part of someone's life (however briefly) and
tend to do this serially.

pat


BATR94

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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Patranoid wrote in message <19981024114634...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...
Of course, these days that might also describe a stalker.


Sandy

KRYGREEN1

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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>Subject: Re: Groupies!
>From: tupel...@aol.com (TupeloMiss)
>Date: 10/18/98 6:59 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <19981018195943...@ng84.aol.com>

> I also have "Rock Wives" which includes essays and interviews with
>and about lotsa wives and girlfriends as well as Cyndi Lauper's ex-husband,
>the
>one token male.

I remember skimming through that book a few years back when I was in high
school. Very intresting stuff.

Suni

Patranoid

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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"BATR94" <sols...@worldnet.att.net> wrote about what I wrote:

>>Another distinction seems to be that fans get satisfaction just from being
>a
>>follower/consumer of someone's work, where groupies seem to need to gain
>some
>>kind of status through becoming part of someone's life (however briefly)
>and
>>tend to do this serially.
>>
>>pat
>>
>>
>>
>Of course, these days that might also describe a stalker.
>

I was actually wondering how common it is for celebs to be stalked by groupies.
It would seem like a likely scenario.

pat


MCD LANCER

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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>patr...@aol.com (Patranoid) wrote:

>I was actually wondering how common it is for celebs to be stalked by
>groupies.
> It would seem like a likely scenario.

Back in the day (ten years ago), when we first met and got friendly with MFB
(my favorite band), it was by wanting to meet them and hanging out somewhere to
see them and get their autograph. Then, after we talked with them several
times, they tipped us off to where they were going to be and why didn't we stop
by? We ended up developing a pretty strong, non-sexual friendship with them.

But that was then, and now that kind of behavior is considered dangerous

.
Sending postcards from the edge,

Mary Beth
~*~ Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. ~*~

Linda F. Cauthen

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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FreeGratis wrote:
>
> I have "Rock Wives". "I'm With the Band" plus an incredibly old rotting
> paperback copy of "Groupies and other girls" printed back in the sixties. It
> was an extension of an article in Rolling Stone, I think...anyway, there was a
> pic in there of Devon, who some credit with turning Jimi Hendrix on to heroin.
>
> I'd LOVE to see what Bebe has to dish.
>
> BTW, Pamela Des Barres has a website, sorry I don't have the URL, but if you do
> a search you'll find it. It's electricgypsy something...anyway, check it out.
> It's better if you have sound.
>
> -marianna
> nobody ever lends money to a man with a sense of
> humor

Not surprisingly to those of you who already know me, I have
"Rock Wives," "I'm With the Band" and Pamela's other two books
and "Groupie." Alas, back in the 70s someone borrowed by copy
of "Groupies and other girls" and I've never found another
one. I also have "Tarnished Angel" by Jennifer Lee.

I did a story about groupies for a Rona Barrett mag back in
1980 and got to interview several LA groupies (that's how I
first met Pamela). The one I really wanted who eluded me was
Sable Starr. I put out a dragnet for her and other groupies
thru friends and acquaintances like Rodney Bingenheimer, and
Sable finally left me a message at the office while I was out
but didn't leave a number. I found out later that she was at
the Tropicana shacked up with Stiv Bators.

I used to hang out at Over the Rainbow on the Strip when it
first opened back in the early 70s and met the Butter Queen
there. Anybody else remember her?

On the country side, there's this gorgeous redhead from
Shreveport named Billie Jean who dated Faron Young and married
both Hank Williams and Johnny Horton - both of whom died
within a short period of time. Later she hit on then-upcoming
country singer Waylon Jennings, who didn't like her track
record and turned her down! Probably just as well, since he
lived on to bang both Pamela Des Barres and Jennifer Lee -
both of whom wrote about it. (Winding around to the original
subject)

Linda C.

Linda F. Cauthen

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Catty wrote:
>
> On 19 Oct 1998 01:59:53 GMT, freeg...@aol.comgerbil (FreeGratis)
> wrote:
>
> >I have "Rock Wives". "I'm With the Band" plus an incredibly old rotting
> >paperback copy of "Groupies and other girls" printed back in the sixties. It
> >was an extension of an article in Rolling Stone, I think...anyway, there was a
> >pic in there of Devon, who some credit with turning Jimi Hendrix on to heroin.
> >
> >I'd LOVE to see what Bebe has to dish.
> >
> >BTW, Pamela Des Barres has a website, sorry I don't have the URL, but if you do
> >a search you'll find it. It's electricgypsy something...anyway, check it out.
> >It's better if you have sound.
> >
> Thanks. I checked it out. Quite cool. It's www.electricgypsy.com and
> it contains a few amusing photos of 'Me and my friend', 'Me', 'Me and
> Al Henerix' and 'Me again.'
>
> BTW, does anyone know how old her son is now?
>
> Catty

When I met her in 1980, he was about 2, so he'd be turning 20
this year.

Linda C.

Linda F. Cauthen

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TupeloMiss wrote:
>
> Evelyn writes:
>
> <<Somewhere around here I have Hammer of the Gods, which I read for the first
> time recently...I was wondering WEHT Jimmy Page's groupie g/f whose name I

> can't remember...she was the teenage model from LA that he "dated" for years
> and I think she was a friend of Pamela DesBarres.>>
>
> Lori Maddox -- glad to be of service!
>
> Tupelo
> Your resident groupie historiaoioaioaioan

Better know as Lori Lightning. She and Pamela were on a talk
show together awhile back,their hatchet long buried.

Linda C.

Linda F. Cauthen

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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Yep

Linda C.

Linda F. Cauthen

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Patranoid wrote:
>
> "BATR94" <sols...@worldnet.att.net> wrote about what I wrote:
>
> >>Another distinction seems to be that fans get satisfaction just from being
> >a
> >>follower/consumer of someone's work, where groupies seem to need to gain
> >some
> >>kind of status through becoming part of someone's life (however briefly)
> >and
> >>tend to do this serially.
> >>
> >>pat
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >Of course, these days that might also describe a stalker.
> >
> I was actually wondering how common it is for celebs to be stalked by groupies.
> It would seem like a likely scenario.
>
> pat

Actually, the groupies I've met seemed pretty sane, compared
to the fans. After all, the gals who are sleeping with their
heroes (and getting phone calls from the road telling them
when they're coming to town and where they're staying, etc.)
don't *have* to stalk. Most of the stalkers are the type who
have *no* chance of getting close to a star.

Linda C.

Patranoid

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"Linda F. Cauthen" <msl...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Actually, the groupies I've met seemed pretty sane, compared
>to the fans.

lol...that's a scary thought

After all, the gals who are sleeping with their
>heroes (and getting phone calls from the road telling them
>when they're coming to town and where they're staying, etc.)
>don't *have* to stalk. Most of the stalkers are the type who
>have *no* chance of getting close to a star.
>
>

I see your point. And, if they get rejected, and are unhappy about it, they
probably demand money or write a tell-all, rather than going the Fatal
Attraction stewed bunny route. Effectively, I guess we're talking about
women/people are professionals in their field;-)

pat

TupeloMiss

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Linda writes:

<<I did a story about groupies for a Rona Barrett mag back in
1980 and got to interview several LA groupies (that's how I
first met Pamela). The one I really wanted who eluded me was
Sable Starr.>>

Geez-oid! I was just talking to somebody at the coffee shop today about Sable
Starr. How often does THAT name come up twice in one day?

Tupelo
Pulling out Dead Boys 8-tracks and getting all misty (wasn't it just poor
Stiv's birthday last week?)
http://members.aol.com/~TupeloMiss

Linda F. Cauthen

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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Any woman under 30 years and 200 pounds (and some over, too!)
who has a job that brings her in contact with famous musicians
and/or actors is gonna get hit on. If she and the star are
both single, what they do is nobody's business.
Except *ours,* of course! ;-)

Linda C.

Gillian Hardy

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Gillian stopped doing the Hustle and noticed that on 25 Oct 1998
01:35:36 GMT, mcdl...@aol.comspamfree (MCD LANCER) had been moved to
write:


>Back in the day (ten years ago), when we first met and got friendly with MFB

My brain is obviously not working, but who are MFB???

MCD LANCER

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>Gillian stopped doing the Hustle and noticed that on 25 Oct 1998
>01:35:36 GMT, mcdl...@aol.comspamfree (MCD LANCER) had been moved to
>write:
>
>
>>Back in the day (ten years ago), when we first met and got friendly with MFB
>
>My brain is obviously not working, but who are MFB???
>

MFB stands for "my favorite band."

smo...@ihateads.com

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In article <19981026191516...@ng-fi1.aol.com>,
sass...@aol.com (SassyMs69) wrote:

> If this movie is worth seeing it's got to include a (re-enactment of) that
> well-known home movie the Go-Go's made of sexual encounters with their
> groupies. I never saw this home movie but I heard it was very raunchy. Of
> course the movie version would have to tone it down or risk an NC-17 rating

It's Ted Demme, according to muzic.com. (But then they say that Ted is
Jonathan's son and he's his nephew. Considering how they screwed that bit
up I couldn't guess how much of this is correct) Emma

Our Lips Aren't Sealed: Go-Go's Movie To Hit Big Screen

It's official: the powers that be in Hollywood have finally run
out of ideas -- why else would they be purloining the lives of rockstars?
The L.A. Times reveals that Jonathan Demme's son Ted and his wife Amanda
have optioned the rights to the tell-all book the Go-Go's are penning with
punk avatar and Los Angeles music historian Pleasant Gehman. We knew
someone would bite just as soon as word got out that the band were going
to hold nothing back in the story of their ascension to the top (and back
down again) during the wickedly decadent '70s and '80s (you remember when
we told you that Gehman had uncovered a stack of Polaroids of various
men's penis's that the band had "loved and known" and which had all been
carefully labeled).
In fact, if the truth be told, their book and movie just might be
the an American version of The Velvet Goldmine. Gehman tells us it is "far
too early to discuss any of the details about the film," but also tells us
both the book and film will be released concurrently. The original members
of the band will not be in the movie; instead they'll hire actresses who
look like Gina Schock, Jane Wiedlin, Charlotte Caffey, Kathy Valentine,
and Belinda Carlisle did 20 years ago.

According to insiders, if they tell the real story of the band,
this movie might really be interesting. In addition to the wild tales of
hotel trashing, drugs, booze, and male groupies, there's still an
underground video floating around made by the band, which shows all five
members stoned out of
their minds forcing a member of their road crew to pull down his pants and
masturbate in front of them. Now that's something even James Hetfield
couldn't make one of his roadies do.

--
To email me, delete "ihatespam.com" and substitute "ix.netcom.com" in the address above.

SassyMs69

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hopp...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <363329...@earthlink.net>,

msl...@earthlink.net wrote:
> EvelynR wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of groupies, I just read in Entertainment Weekly that Jonathan Demme
> > is planning to make a movie based on the Go Go's history of sex, drugs &
> > rock'n'roll...they mentioned that some of their male groupies include a Brat
> > Packer (Rob Lowe, I assume?) and a LA Dodger. I vaguely remember one of the
> > GoGos dating a baseball player -- was it Mike Marshall and Belinda Carlisle?
> >
> > Evelyn
>
> Yep
>
> Linda C.
>

It's NOT Jonathan that's looking into doing a movie.It's Ted Demme and his
wife.It was Rob Lowe and Mike Marshall and BC lived together for a while.

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On 27 Oct 1998 00:15:16 GMT, sass...@aol.com (SassyMs69) wrote:

>EvelynR wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of groupies, I just read in Entertainment Weekly that Jonathan Demme
>> is planning to make a movie based on the Go Go's history of sex, drugs &
>> rock'n'roll...they mentioned that some of their male groupies include a Brat
>> Packer (Rob Lowe, I assume?) and a LA Dodger. I vaguely remember one of the
>> GoGos dating a baseball player -- was it Mike Marshall and Belinda Carlisle?
>>
>> Evelyn
>
>>>Yep
>

>If this movie is worth seeing it's got to include a (re-enactment of) that
>well-known home movie the Go-Go's made of sexual encounters with their
>groupies. I never saw this home movie but I heard it was very raunchy. Of
>course the movie version would have to tone it down or risk an NC-17 rating

Didn't they also sleep with each other?

I remember that being one of the rumors floating around
from time to time.

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