WORST SG song
Clarence Grigsby
Gloryland". Cabin? NO WAY, I want a MANSION!!! Any other nominations?
I'm not talking performance by a certain group, but about lyrics.
Me
my head just as long I can be with GOD.
David Murray (SG Fan)
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> One that comes to mind for me is "Give Me A Cabin In The Corner Of
> Gloryland". Cabin? NO WAY, I want a MANSION!!! Any other nominations?
> I'm not talking performance by a certain group, but about lyrics.
"Oh Jonah" sounds like a prime contender. Also, what was the Dixie Melody
Boys song from back in the 80s that parodied a big country hit?
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Making hay while the sun shines!
Clarence Grigsby
Are you talking about "Good Ol Boys"? This was a sendup of the Dukes
Of Hazzard theme. Although, the message was good (being a nice person
won't get you to Heaven), it did leave a lot to be desired as far as
lyrics went.
musicman
classic cuts) is "If anyone makes it surely I will" or "Surely I will Lord."
This has always soudned to me like the writer was saying that "as good as I
am if anybody gets into heaven it is bound to be me." I Have never cared for
the message in this one. Great question though!
My second choice would be the Cathedrals "classic" "He Came Back" that has
the famous line "He didn't die." Of course we know that he did die and in
doing so when he rose he conquered death forever! praise God!
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Leslie,James,Larry Moore
Royce Alverson
Country" by White River back
in the early 90's. This was Christian Country, but they
were kinda SG group.
The chorus went like this: I like my gospel country, I like
the slide of a steel
guitar. There's something about twin fiddles that puts a
melody in my heart.
Jesus gave me a new song, I no longer sing the blues. I've
got a funny
feeling, the Lord likes Country too.
Now isn't that a blessing? I wonder how many souls were
convicted during
that song? I'm sorry, but I would never sing that type of
song in church, not
even on Wednesday night.
Also, I'm not crazy about the new song by Jeff & Sheri,
"Going Away Party".
I mean get real. Good premise, but I didn't view the
passing of my Christian
grandmother as a going away party at all. Although she's in
Heaven today,
I still grieve her death often. The real "party" will not
begin until we're all
in Glory, and reunited with the Bridegroom. Now THAT'S a
party.
Royce
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Betsy Hallatt
back?? That really took me to the throne!!!!
Seriously, not all songs are worship songs, some are just plain fun and
entertaining. I have been a music buyer for a large Christian Bookstore for
many years, and not everyone is looking for a worship experience in every
single song when they come into the store.. Sometimes it is good to laugh!
As for Going Away Party.. I loved it when White River did it years ago, and
have told my kids and grandkids, thats the way I want you to see it!! I am
looking forward to it! It has been my goal for over 30 years now. Getting
excited!! I am only in my fifties, but looking forward to the celebration!!
Rikman61
> Boys song from back in the 80s that parodied a big country
take off on Waylon Jennings, "Good Ole Boys."
Went something like this in chorus:
Good ole boys won't make it into heaven,
Good ole boys won't wear a crown.
etc...
The jest of the song was, it takes more than being a good ole boy to go to
heaven.
"David Murray (SG Fan)" <dbmurrayd...@rfci.net> wrote in message
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>
David Murray (SG Fan)
Betsy Hallatt <ship...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> What about Walt Mills' " The Devil's in the Phone Booth" from a few years
> back?? That really took me to the throne!!!!
I like that song because it's funny and original. I can't say it ever gave
me goose bumps, though...maybe hiccups from laughing about it.
A similar example is James Payne's "John 3:16." Believe it or not, I've
heard that sung and then some former alcoholic get up at give a moving
testimony, so I know it connects with people. But it's pretty funny at the
same time. I'm convinced the novelty nature of that tune actually gives
people like that a freedom to talk about their past life and where they've
come.
> Seriously, not all songs are worship songs, some are just plain fun and
> entertaining. I have been a music buyer for a large Christian Bookstore
for
> many years, and not everyone is looking for a worship experience in every
> single song when they come into the store.. Sometimes it is good to laugh!
I agree. This sounds a bit odd to say, but when a song is obviously a
novelty song, it's not as big of a deal that the theology is off. As long as
the characters in the song are still displayed with their basic
characteristics, it's just good creativity.
We all know that the Devil doesn't dial 911, but if the Devil were put into
human terms, he'd have good reason to be doing that.
David Murray (SG Fan)
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> many years,
It's always nice to meet fellow music buyers. I did that for a number of
years myself. I still work in Christian retail, but I'm doing different
tasks now.
David Stuart
sounding bad, but it just doesn't have a true meaning. It is the
Kingsmens song done on their Stand Up at Opryland project. It is called
Angels are Hard to Find. It says someting about , if we ever wonder why
the lord took our precious loved ones away from us, then says, it is
because Angels are hard to Find. And as we know, we do not become angels
in heaven! Angels are created beings ! LOL.
David
David Murray (SG Fan)
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That's still a common mis-conception that spills over into songs. I hate to
go back to Jeff and Sheri Easter after they've already got criticism for
"Goin' Away Party," but they have a tune on the same project called
"Remembering Angels" that borders on this concept. I think that song is OK,
though, because the idea is that these people who are now dead had angelic
characteristics when they were alive.
David Stuart
about that song Build me a Cabin in the Corner of Gloryland, on the
Kingsmens Mississippi Live project!!!! lol
David
David Murray (SG Fan)
> Hey Clarence, what a coincidence , thats the same thing Hamill said
> about that song Build me a Cabin in the Corner of Gloryland, on the
> Kingsmens Mississippi Live project!!!! lol
Is there any way to set webtv to quote the message you are replying to? It
would sure help on context.
Nirman Graham
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> One song that I have heard sung ad nauseum ( including some so-called
> classic cuts) is "If anyone makes it surely I will" or "Surely I will
Lord."
> This has always soudned to me like the writer was saying that "as good as
I
> am if anybody gets into heaven it is bound to be me." I Have never cared
for
> the message in this one.
Apparently the late tenor Rosie Rozell of the Statesmen didn't like singing
the songs (although it was a big number for the group) because he felt it
was bragging.
I dislike the song Build My Mansion (Next Door to Jesus) written by Dottie
Rambo for the same reason. I'm sure Dottie didn't mean for it to come out
this way but to me it sounds as if she is telling God what to do. Besides
picking her "lot" in Heaven she also wants her Mom's place close by.
Norm
Paul Slopak Jr.
Clarence Grigsby
Yep, there are two ways to quote a message on WebTV:
1-Use the cut and paste method, as detailed in the "Help" section of
the homepage.
2-Use Google groups, I'm doing it that way now. Google automatically
quotes the message you are responding to. Makes life much easier. :-)
Brenda English
> From: "musicman" <roll...@worldnet.att.net>
> Organization: AT&T Worldnet
> Newsgroups: alt.music.gospel.southern
> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:46:54 GMT
> Subject: Re: WORST SG song
>
> One song that I have heard sung ad nauseum ( including some so-called
> classic cuts) is "If anyone makes it surely I will" or "Surely I will Lord."
> This has always soudned to me like the writer was saying that "as good as I
> am if anybody gets into heaven it is bound to be me." I Have never cared for
> the message in this one. Great question though!
I definitely have to agree with you on this one. The only thing I've ever
done to get me to Heaven was asking the Lord to save me. It's a gift of
God, not of works, lest any man should boast.
DMcHenry45
Up" was a parody of a country song that had very suggestive lyrics.
Peggy H..
TommyDale
long time ago. I refused to play it on the air, even if it WAS on the
Singing
News chart!
>===== Original Message From "Paul Slopak Jr." <pauls...@home.com> =====
>How about "Midnight Choir" by Larry Gatlin?
>
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through it. Live, everyone loved it....
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Rikman61
troubled years.....Lyrics go something like this:
Will they have Mogan-David in heaven
I'd sure like to know.
If they do'n have Mogan-David in heaven,
then whothe hell would want to go.
Not hardly southern gospel, although the words heaven and hell are
used......but then again my friend, you probably already knew this...lol
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Paul Slopak Jr.
didn't know it. I don't know if he was so far gone he was doing a parody or
if he really meant it.
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David Murray (SG Fan)
> "David Murray (SG Fan)" <dbmurrayd...@rfci.net> wrote in message
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It
> > would sure help on context.
>
>
> 1-Use the cut and paste method, as detailed in the "Help" section of
> the homepage.
>
> 2-Use Google groups, I'm doing it that way now. Google automatically
> quotes the message you are responding to. Makes life much easier. :-)
Yeah, I should have noticed that you and other WebTVers were quoting
messages, but you do have to cut and paste using WebTVs own newsreader?
That's a real bummer. At any rate, not quoting is making a lot of messages
nonsensical. I'm glad some of you are going the extra mile to make your
messages fit the context even though you can't set it automatically.
I hope the rest of you will consider how little sense a message like the
following made up sentences make:
"Yes, I agree with that. After you meet him in person, you will find that he
is a very generous person."
The Doctor
That song and "The Outlaws Prayer" by Johnny Paycheck used to get a lot of
airplay on Country Hymn time on a local station. I realize these are both
by country artists.
"Clarence Grigsby" <Clarenc...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> One that comes to mind for me is "Give Me A Cabin In The Corner Of
> Gloryland". Cabin? NO WAY, I want a MANSION!!! Any other nominations?
> I'm not talking performance by a certain group, but about lyrics.
>
>
>
> http://community.webtv.net/ClarenceGrigsby/CLARENCEGRIGSBYS
>
Shawn Pennington
when I was a kid. I have no idea what group, if any, sang it but about all
we did at church were hymns and Southern Gospel so it was probably some
group that was big in the 70s.
Anyway, the words went:
"If I never reach the prize, I'm glad I started,
If I never reach the goal, I'm glad I tried."
I know the guy's intentions were good, but what a defeated attitude for a
Christian to have and sing about!
Nirman Graham
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> I knew that but sadly if you listen to the introduction of the song -
Larry
> didn't know it. I don't know if he was so far gone he was doing a parody
or
> if he really meant it.
>
>This is what Larry said about the song in his autobiography after saying
there was negative reaction from some quarters:
"I believed then (and still do) that the song was divinely inspired. . . . I
explained
that it was not the Gatlin Brothers who were saying "If there's no Mogen
David
(wine) in heaven, who the h___ wants to go" but that it was these poor old
winos
who were confused, sick and hurting and in need of help and whose only idea
of
heaven was a bottle of Mogen David and temporary relief from the pain."
As for the recording of the songs as opposed to the lyrics, Larry did admit
that he and the others all drank a bunch of Mogen David before recording the
song. "Looking back now, I know it was overkill and in bad taste."
Norm
The Doctor
Larry thinks this is a serious song... I think the song is a parody!
Larry says "This song is called the Midnight Choir at the Rescue Mission, on
the fourth of the month, Nashville Tennesee."
In the background there is the sound of someone (a wino) being helped into a
chair. He is saying "I used to be a doctor, a brain surgeon." and you
might hear Larry say something to "Brother Rudy"... which Rudy and Steve are
Larry's brothers. Then he starts to sing:
Midnight Choir (Mogen David)
The doors to the mission will open at seven,
and the soup will be ready about nine.
Right now it's six thirty, they're ragged and dirty,
they're standing and sitting and laying in line.
First they'll do a little singing, then they'll hear a little preaching
and get saved for the third time this week.
A bowl of soup later and a pat on the shoulder
and by midnight, they're back on the street.
They walk to the corner of Fourth Street and Broadway then take the first
alley on the right.
One of them asks a stranger "How 'bout a handout?"
and he gives them one finger at a time.
Then they spy an old buddy with a bottle of heaven,
then pass around what means everything -
One bottle for four, "Thank God someone scored!",
and now the Midnight Choir starts to sing:
Will they have Mogen David in Heaven?
Dear Lord, we'd all like to know -
Will they have Mogen David in Heaven
Sweet Jesus
If they don't, who the hell wants to go?
This song, like The Beatles' John Lennon singing:
"Christ, you know it ain't easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going,
They're gonna crucify me."
has a high shock value in it. At the end of the song, the "winos" give
their rendition of the chorus which is off key, off beat and sometimes
unintelligible. I never for once took it as something serious, although
there is a point to be made in the song, albeit a sad one, about those
unfortunate, homeless souls addicted to alcohol.
"Paul Slopak Jr." <pauls...@home.com> wrote in message
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I knew that but sadly if you listen to the introduction of the song - Larry
didn't know it. I don't know if he was so far gone he was doing a parody or
if he really meant it.
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Midnight Choir was actually a country song when Larry Gatlin was in his
troubled years.....Lyrics go something like this:
CUT
M. Elden Gaines
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> A song with some really poor lyrics used to be sung by a fella in our
church
> when I was a kid. I have no idea what group, if any, sang it but about
all
> we did at church were hymns and Southern Gospel so it was probably some
> group that was big in the 70s.
>
> Anyway, the words went:
>
> "If I never reach the prize, I'm glad I started,
> If I never reach the goal, I'm glad I tried."
>
> I know the guy's intentions were good, but what a defeated attitude for a
> Christian to have and sing about!
>
How about, "I'm Coming Up the Rough Side of the Mountain." This is one of
the most un-scriptural songs I've heard in recent years. It got a lot of
radio time locally, here in Ohio, and made the rounds of the local singers.
Elden
M. Elden Gaines
mega...@calvaryministries.com
www.calvaryministries.com
KJCSmith1
>through it. Live, everyone loved it....
The Blackwood Brothers bass Ken Turner also recorded this.
David Murray (SG Fan)
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> How about "Dropkick me Jesus (through the Goalposts of Life)" by Bobby
Bare?
> That song and "The Outlaws Prayer" by Johnny Paycheck used to get a lot of
> airplay on Country Hymn time on a local station. I realize these are both
> by country artists.
"The Outlaw's Prayer" wasn't a bad song. It just used very plain language
that was offensive to some people. I think I recall a couple of "hells" that
weren't referring to the place.
Unfortunately, the situation described in that song is the way things are in
many churches. Just pray he wasn't singing about your church.
David Murray (SG Fan)
> Larry thinks this is a serious song... I think the song is a parody!
Point of order.
A "parody" is a song that uses the exact same melody of an previously
existing song with the lyrics changed. Usually, the words will even rhyme
the same as the original. The "Oh, Jonah" parody of "Elvira" mentioned
earlier is a good example.
I don't think "Midnight Choir" is a parody, as I recall it. If it is, what
was the original song that was copied?
BTW, most parodies are intended to be funny, but not all. See:
www.apologetix.com for examples of parodies that aren't really meant to be
funny.
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
James Shurley
1. Many will be shocked when they walk through those Pearly Gates and
get told to "hop in the back of the truck, we're gonna run up to the big
house!"
2. Not all songs have to be worthy of being sung on Sunday morning
church full of lost sinners service. It is good to have some songs that we
can have fun with and sing to ourselves sometimes just to have a joyful song
in our heart, yes there are many others that could fill that bill as well
that fill the other but it is just nice to have a variety.
3. I'm sorry that you still grieve over your loss, BUT, if you or any
other Christian cannot accept her passing for what it is then I am even more
sorry for you. When both of my grandparents passed away, I had to restrain
myself from "lapping the church" because of the sweet message of salvation
preached and assurance given that I will see them again and that they have
only gone to be with Jesus and left the world of heartache and sorrow. I
consider the funeral of a Christian a "Goin' away party" because that is
exactly what they are doing as we speak at that moment, having a party over
being with Jesus.
What will your eternity be? Smoking or Non?
James
"Royce Alverson" <roy...@cwis.net> wrote in message
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> I, personally, don't like the song "I Like My Gospel
> Country" by White River back
> in the early 90's. This was Christian Country, but they
> were kinda SG group.
> The chorus went like this: I like my gospel country, I like
> the slide of a steel
> guitar. There's something about twin fiddles that puts a
> melody in my heart.
> Jesus gave me a new song, I no longer sing the blues. I've
> got a funny
> feeling, the Lord likes Country too.
>
> Now isn't that a blessing? I wonder how many souls were
> convicted during
> that song? I'm sorry, but I would never sing that type of
> song in church, not
> even on Wednesday night.
>
> Also, I'm not crazy about the new song by Jeff & Sheri,
> "Going Away Party".
> I mean get real. Good premise, but I didn't view the
> passing of my Christian
> grandmother as a going away party at all. Although she's in
> Heaven today,
> I still grieve her death often. The real "party" will not
> begin until we're all
> in Glory, and reunited with the Bridegroom. Now THAT'S a
> party.
>
> Royce
Royce Alverson
1. Many will be shocked when they walk through those
Pearly Gates and
get told to "hop in the back of the truck, we're gonna run
up to the big
house!"
This could happen... I doubt it, but it could. I'll not
argue over this.
2. Not all songs have to be worthy of being sung on
Sunday morning
church full of lost sinners service. It is good to have
some songs that we
can have fun with and sing to ourselves sometimes just to
have a joyful song
in our heart, yes there are many others that could fill that
bill as well
that fill the other but it is just nice to have a variety.
I feel like we have a duty to the Lord to sing the type of
songs that uplift Him
and the Kingdom EVERY service. I know that it's through
some powerful
singing on Sunday morning of some powerful songs with great,
soul-
convicting lyrics that my heart was convicted and that
morning I walked
the aisle and got saved. I feel that every component of the
service that
day contributed to my salvation... The Prayers, The Singing,
The Preaching,
and that Altar call.
3. I'm sorry that you still grieve over your loss, BUT,
if you or any
other Christian cannot accept her passing for what it is
then I am even more
sorry for you. When both of my grandparents passed away, I
had to restrain
myself from "lapping the church" because of the sweet
message of salvation
preached and assurance given that I will see them again and
that they have
only gone to be with Jesus and left the world of heartache
and sorrow. I
consider the funeral of a Christian a "Goin' away party"
because that is
exactly what they are doing as we speak at that moment,
having a party over
being with Jesus.
I don't need you to be sorry for me. I'm never going to be
over losing my
grandmother, or my brother who was killed in 1998. Their
memories
are permanently implanted in my mind and in my life. I'm
thankful for
memories. I just don't consider the funeral for one of my
loved ones
a "Going Away Party". This is my opinion, so don't take it
personally.
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
RayDunakin
called "Keep Lookin' Up: The Texas Swing Sessions". It has a song that has
really stupid lyrics. The song is "The Chair That Never Got Mended", and it
says that when Jesus was on the cross, he was thinking about the condition of
his mother's furniture! LOL!
RayDunakin
Country" by White River back in the early 90's. This was Christian Country,
but they were kinda SG group.
The chorus went like this: I like my gospel country, I like the slide of a
steel guitar. There's something about twin fiddles that puts a melody in my
heart. Jesus gave me a new song, I no longer sing the blues. I've got a funny
feeling, the Lord likes Country too.
Now isn't that a blessing? I wonder how many souls were convicted during that
song? I'm sorry, but I would never sing that type of song in church, not even
on Wednesday night. >>
Heheh. I love that song! Ok, so the lyrics aren't on par with "Amazing Grace",
but there's nothing theologically wrong with them, either.
RayDunakin
>>
Heheh. That reminds me of the time when I was looking for gospel records in a
department store, and they had a country album titled "Heaven's Just A Sin
Away" filed under Gospel!
RayDunakin
>>
I was just thinking about that one! I've always wondered if it was just a
really bad metaphor, or was intentionally disrespectful?
David Bruce Murray
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I always thought it was intentionally funny.
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Clarence Grigsby
some I've never heard, and at least one ("Build My Mansion") I totally
disagree with. I've found a lot of the posts very,very funny.
I'd like to add a little number I wrote to the list. First, a little
background. There was a guy in a Church that my dad used to pastor who
loved bad Gospel music. The worse the vocals and lyrics were, the more
he liked it. I decided to write a song that was absolutely awful and see
what this fellow would say when I did it for him. I wrote this song,
based on a bumper sticker, and sung the first verse for my friend. His
verdict was. "not bad". My verdict is very bad. It goes:
Verse 1
When you're driving down the road
And you pass a country Church
Honk if you love Jesus
Your friends and neighbors there
Will never leave you in the lurch
Honk if you love Jesus
Verse 2
When the trucks pass by so fast
And put you in the ditch at last
Honk if you love Jesus
It will surely be a plus
If you don't scream and cuss
Honk if you love Jesus
Chorus
Honk if you love Jesus
Honk if you love the Lord above
When the road gets dark and lonely,
A horn can be a testimony
So, honk if you love Jesus
©1989 Clarence Grigsby. Anyone who records and/or reproduces this song
should sue their brain for non support!
John Roeder
as part of a Christian comedy routine, it could befunny and very good.
John R
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