Response to J.D. Sumner attack from CJB
dme...@my-deja.com
I don't appreciate your lies and untruths as told
in your posting about who's the best bass singer.
You are a no-talent, ignorant, jealous fool. J.D.
Sumner never tried to capitalize on his friendship
with Elvis. He went on "Geraldo" because Vernon
Presley's ex-wife, Dee, was claiming that Elvis
had an affair with his own mother.
He defended Elvis and called her a liar to her
face. J.D. loved Elvis Presley. J.D. has said many
times that Elvis was his best friend. Your
comments about Elvis are without regard for a
common decency to a man who is no longer alive to
defend himself.
CJB, you are an idiot! George Younce could not
even carry J.D.'s microphone to the stage. J.D.
Sumner is 10 times the man and the bass singer
that George Younce could ever be. You write, "Go
George!". You are so stupid and uninformed.
CJB, you have shown just how ignorant people can
be. You must be a card-carrying idiot. You
mentioned the word "prostitute" when referring to
the Stamps singing with Elvis. I know J.D. Sumner,
Ed Enoch, and Ed Hill personally, and they were
all proud to sing with Elvis Presley.
Your comments should be re-printed on Mark
Lowry's website. You and him could have some fun
mocking J.D. Sumner and Elvis Presley. Are you a
ReMarkable? I think there is a chance you might
be. You and Mark Lowry have no regard for J.D.
Sumner's memory. You are a fool.
Darrin
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Before you buy.
cshelby
You have the right to have your opinion, but there is no need to call
someone an "an idiot" and "a fool". I didn't agree with CJB either, but
there is no reason for name calling.
Another thing, Mark Lowry respected J.D. He was very upset when he passed.
I know that I have to passed mailings from Mark talking about J.D. and in no
way did he put him down, or make fun of him.
I'm sorry that this post upset you so much that you desided not to act like
a christian (assuming that you are one) and call names, but if you would
please respect the people in this news group, and act like a christian.
God Bless,
Chris
<dme...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7vqeta$ju6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
Shawn Pennington
dme...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7vqeta$ju6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> Your comments should be re-printed on Mark
>Lowry's website. You and him could have some fun
>mocking J.D. Sumner and Elvis Presley. Are you a
>ReMarkable? I think there is a chance you might
>be. You and Mark Lowry have no regard for J.D.
>Sumner's memory. You are a fool.
>
>Darrin
Darrin,
While entitled to your opinion, you really are not entitled to come on a
Christian newsgroup with such an un-Christian response.
If you want to counter CJB's opinion with something of substance, by all
means do so. If you want to put aside a Christian attitude and flame him,
however, address it to him personally.
Noone here wants to read posts like that.
You, presumably, seldom visit this list as that subject closed a long time
ago. When you do grace us with your presence, try praying about your anger
before posting.
As for Mark Lowry being disrespectful of JD Sumner, I can't imagine where
you got that idea. I subscribe to Lowry's mailing list and found his
tribute to JD to be touching and right in line with the comedian that JD
Sumner knew and loved.
I heard JD Sumner testify on one of the videos, "Singing With the Saints", I
believe it was, that Mark Lowry was a very special friend to him. He
menitoned that, since losing his wife, it was Mark Lowry who cared enough
about him to come and visit and eat dinner with him on many occassions. JD
seemed to be very thankful to him and obviously held a dear Christian love
for his "little buddy", Mark Lowry.
Shawn Pennington
David Murray
>
> CJB,
<Blah blah blah snipped>
It's a good practice on usenet if you notice dates on messages before
you respond. If the thread is several weeks old, as this one is, a
response is uncalled for. This issue was well hashed over the first
time.
David Murray
KJCSmith1
>Sumner's memory. You are a fool.
>
>Darrin
Just so you know Mark Lowry and J.D. Sumner were extremely close!! It appears
you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to Mark and J.D. As
for George Younce, he and J.D. were best buddies also!! I knew J.D. all my
life. And George for most of my life these two men loved and respected each
other. I have known Mark for awhile now and he also greatly respected J.D. and
J.D. retruned that respect! Why should J.D. be ashamed that he sang with Elvis
he had no reason to be. Two of my friends came to know Christ through that
venue. Mark and J.D. were always playing tricks on each other...you are so
wrong about Mark having no regard for J.D.'s memory. Get all your facts about
people before slamming them.
Carol LeFevre
wanted to punch CJB in the nose. We don't need that kind of response
here. Remember, the fruits of the Spirit???????
CL
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose
his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Matthew 16:26
Doctor Lovable
KJCSmith1
Once again please quote what you are replying to!!!
Leslie Moore
Moore3 welcomes You.......
Diahann Click
relationship between Mark Lowry and JD Sumner...they happened to be VERY
close friends....I didnt read CJB's post, and I can understand how you
may be upset, but dont go bashing George Younce and Mark Lowry.....and
yes......
I AM A REMARKABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KJCSmith1
>Lowry's website. You and him could have some fun
>mocking J.D. Sumner and Elvis Presley. Are you a
>ReMarkable? I think there is a chance you might
>Sumner's memory. You are a fool.
Darrin,
I received this from Mark after your little temper tatrum. Here is what he had
to say about J.D.
"I didn't really know J.D. until we started recording the Gaither videos. I'd
see him across the room laughing at George YOunce or whispering a joke into
Jake's ear, or telling the whole crowd one of his tales. I decided I had to
get to know him. I knew there was a lifetime full of interesting stories
behind that devilish grin. My only motive for gettin to know J.D. was to hear
some funny stories, but what I got was a friend and a five-year journey with
one of the most interesting people. In fact, that was the common theme of
everyone's eulogy of him. J.D. was always helping the underdog. He understood
the old Scripture where Jesus says "When you've done it unto the least of
these, you've done it unto Me." I'll miss our talks about the "great mysteries
of life", and watching him mull those mysteries over, voil'em down, and then
wrap'em in an eighth-grade vocabulary that everybody can understand. We buried
J.D. on Movember 19, 1998, which would've been his 74th birthday. I'm
thankful J.D. Sumner passed my way!!
No Darrin you are the fool. Mark and J.D. were great friends!
Hell...@aol.com
dme...@my-deja.com writes:
an edited version of post...
<< You are a no-talent, ignorant, jealous fool. CJB, you are an idiot!
Sumner is 10 times the man and the bass singer that George Younce could ever
people can be. You must be a card-carrying idiot. You are a fool.
Darrin
>>
My God! Are you a Christian? I cannot believe anybody who claims to be
would say the garbage that you typed on your post. Does this list not have a
moderator???? How can such an ungodly, filthy mouthed post be allowed? If
anyone on this list would like to join a southern gospel music list where
this kind of garbage is not allowed or tolerated, please send me an e-mail at
Hell...@aol.com On our list, we treat with respect and christian love.
We aren''t always perfect, but this kind of stuff is not allowed. I will
get you signed up.
KJCSmith1
>We aren''t always perfect, but this kind of stuff is not allowed. I will
>get you signed up.
>
It is a great list too!!!!
Bill Williams
could sing lower than any man. I don't think anybody would disagree with
that, but George has a better solo voice than JD had. JD had a great way of
delivering a song tho. When they showed the tape of him singing The Lord
Still Lives In This Old House on the homecoming tape, it was really
something. Not perfect, just JD. Connie
Hell...@aol.com wrote in message <0.e4d070b...@aol.com>...
>In a message dated 11/9/1999 6:31:07 PM Central Standard Time,
>dme...@my-deja.com writes:
>an edited version of post...
><< You are a no-talent, ignorant, jealous fool. CJB, you are an idiot!
>George Younce could not even carry J.D.'s microphone to the stage. J.D.
>Sumner is 10 times the man and the bass singer that George Younce could
ever
>be. You are so stupid and uninformed. CJB, you have shown just how
ignorant
>people can be. You must be a card-carrying idiot. You are a fool.
>
> Darrin
> >>
>My God! Are you a Christian? I cannot believe anybody who claims to be
>would say the garbage that you typed on your post. Does this list not have
a
>moderator???? How can such an ungodly, filthy mouthed post be allowed? If
>anyone on this list would like to join a southern gospel music list where
>this kind of garbage is not allowed or tolerated, please send me an e-mail
at
>We aren''t always perfect, but this kind of stuff is not allowed. I will
>get you signed up.
>
>
Bobbi Simmons
>
> I don't appreciate your lies and untruths as told
>in your posting about who's the best bass singer.
>You are a no-talent, ignorant, jealous fool. J.D.
>Sumner never tried to capitalize on his friendship
>with Elvis. He went on "Geraldo" because Vernon
>Presley's ex-wife, Dee, was claiming that Elvis
>had an affair with his own mother.
>
> He defended Elvis and called her a liar to her
>face. J.D. loved Elvis Presley. J.D. has said many
>times that Elvis was his best friend. Your
>comments about Elvis are without regard for a
>common decency to a man who is no longer alive to
>defend himself.
>
>even carry J.D.'s microphone to the stage. J.D.
>Sumner is 10 times the man and the bass singer
>George!". You are so stupid and uninformed.
>
> CJB, you have shown just how ignorant people can
>be. You must be a card-carrying idiot. You
>the Stamps singing with Elvis. I know J.D. Sumner,
>Ed Enoch, and Ed Hill personally, and they were
>all proud to sing with Elvis Presley.
>
>Lowry's website. You and him could have some fun
>mocking J.D. Sumner and Elvis Presley. Are you a
>ReMarkable? I think there is a chance you might
>be. You and Mark Lowry have no regard for J.D.
>
>Darrin
>
>
CJB
poor folks who've been taken in on it all...
Bobbi Simmons <bsim...@clt.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:wXIW3.8765$Kk.1...@news2.mia...
David Murray
>
> CJB calmly smiles at the lies and innuendo posted by the spammer and the
> poor folks who've been taken in on it all...
You're holding up well . . . :o)
David Murray
dme...@my-deja.com
Please visit my tribute to J.D. Sumner at www.jdsumner.com. It is the
biggest and best tribute to a gospel singer that the internet has ever
seen. There are close to 50, that's right, 50 pages honoring Mr. J.D.
Sumner, Elvis, and the Stamps Quartet. There is a J.D. Sumner fan club
there as well. KJCsmith, you have no idea who I am. You have no idea
that I know more about Mr. J.D. Sumner than anybody you have ever known
or heard of.
You said I was the fool. J.D. Sumner gave me the bunk directly across
from his on his tour bus. That was the evening of June 28th, 1996. I
slept 4 feet from Mr. Sumner over the course of the following three
years. He gave me the quartet title of "Road Manager." You question
what I know about J.D. Sumner? You question if I am correct about Mark
Lowry? Lowry acted like he was J.D.'s friend. After J.D. passed away,
Lowry has done more to harm the name of J.D. Sumner than anybody in
gospel music.
J.D. was my best friend in this world. He treated me with such love
and respect. I do think that CJB is wrong in using the word prostitute
to describe an action of J.D. Sumner. CJB using the word "prostitute"
does not offend you? But me calling him a fool and an idiot does. That
tells me much about your standards. Mark Lowry and I are at serious
odds. We have exchanged e-mails. He knows that I will not stand one
more day of his mocking of J.D.'s funeral. He knows that he and I are
going to have some serious problems.
He is going to get a full dosage of mocking if he doesn't cut out the
disrespect and harm he is doing to my friend's memory. Fans, visit my
tribute to J.D. Sumner on the internet. Then, after you have spent
about three hours (that is how long it will take you to visit all of
the pages), ask yourself who knows J.D. Sumner better than Darrin
Memmer? I have a biography almost ready to be published about J.D.
Sumner. It is due out in stores by March of 2000.
Why was I so mad in the last post? CJB said J.D. was "nasal-toned",
said that J.D. grew "dutch-boy hair in the 70's", and claimed that
J.D. "prostituted the Stamps for a little bit of Elvis' TCB money". CJB
dishonored and disrespected the good name of J.D. Sumner. I will not
stand by and be silent while mean-spirited lies like CJB told are being
spread throughout the internet. Did you notice that CJB said these
things AFTER J.D. Sumner passed away?
CJB was too much of a coward to say those things while J.D. was
alive. Those of us who knew J.D. know that even though J.D. was in his
early 70's, he would have let CJB have it full blast. Probably in
his "I Can't Wait" column. In closing, Mark Lowry told unfunny jokes
about J.D. Sumner's funeral.
Lowry lied about the quality and character of the funeral mourners.
He is a liar. There were no vagabonds, prisoners, or prostitutes there
at J.D.'s funeral. Mark Lowry said that those types of sinners are who
showed up at J.D.'s funeral. He is a pathetic excuse for a Christian
comedian.
Kjcsmith, I am sorry that you are uninformed about the life and
friendships of J.D. Sumner. I am the world's leading authority on the
last five years of J.D.'s career and concert tours. Check out my
website and you'll see that my boast is true. Ladies and gentlemen,
J.D. has many friends that he can count on. He can count on me and he
can count on many of you to stand up for him against the mean-spirited
words of Mark Lowry and some of his goofy reMarkables.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Darrin
In article <19991108234308...@ng-cl1.aol.com>,
kjcs...@aol.com (KJCSmith1) wrote:
> > Your comments should be re-printed on Mark
> >Lowry's website. You and him could have some fun
> >mocking J.D. Sumner and Elvis Presley. Are you a
> >ReMarkable? I think there is a chance you might
> >be. You and Mark Lowry have no regard for J.D.
> >Sumner's memory. You are a fool.
>
dme...@my-deja.com
Your attitude is not appreciated. Just because some time had passed,
that does not mean that I cannot defend J.D. Sumner's good name. CJB
used the word "prostitute" in relation to something that J.D. Sumner
did. Your sensitivity to the time element is not useful. When one posts
mean-spirited things about a deceased individual, then the time frame
is thrown out the window.
If I read something that was said about J.D. two years ago or twenty
years ago, and it is full of lies and a disregard for J.D.'s memory,
then I am going to respond to it. Thank you for explaining to me your
understanding of the time factor in when one can respond to CJB. I
appreciate it.
Darrin
In article <38210B2B...@rfci.net>,
dme...@my-deja.com
In all sincerity, I was having a good day. But when I went back a few
months to look at old posts, and saw that CJB had written those things
about my best friend. Well, I did take it personally. I have considered
J.D. Sumner a part of my family, a grandfather if you will, since 1994.
I love J.D. Sumner as much as I do my own father or my own brother. I
will not allow somebody to say such bad things about J.D. without me
telling them exactly what I think of them. If you knew anything about
J.D. Sumner, then you know he would tell a person off in a heart beat.
IF, IF that person said mean things about someone he loved. I love J.D.
Sumner very much. He is my friend. Thanks for listening.
Darrin
In article <23117-38...@storefull-121.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
dme...@my-deja.com
J.D. Sumner thought that Mark Lowry was his friend. The gospel music
community thought that they were friends. But Mark Lowry did nothing to
disrespect J.D. until after J.D. passed away. That is the way a coward
goes about hurting another man. When somebody mocks another man's
funeral, how can you defend that? I knew J.D. Sumner as well as anybody
did, during the last five years of his life. I slept 4 feet from him on
his tour bus, for a week at a time. Do you trust me or do you believe
Mark Lowry. Visit www.jdsumner.com and see for yourself my tribute to
J.D. Sumner. Then speak your mind once again. Thank you Diahann.
Darrin
In article <3623-382...@storefull-241.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
CJB
dme...@my-deja.com
Go ahead and respond. It is an old issue? I don't think so. When you
tell lies about J.D. Sumner and make fun of Elvis Presley and his life,
your untruths are fair game. I guarantee you one thing. Since I have
embarrassed you and proven you to be a liar, you will keep your mouth
shut about J.D. and Elvis in the future.
Your comment about J.D. spending the last few years of his life on
talk shows is a bona fide lie. He went on Geraldo to defend the honor
of Elvis Presley. Dee Presley claimed that Elvis had a sexual affair
with his mother, Gladys. J.D. would not sit idly by and allow those
allegations to go unanswered.
Name one more talk show that J.D. appeared on and why he was on
there. I bet you cannot do it. You have met a man who has the knowledge
about J.D. Sumner and Elvis Presley to demolish you in a debate or a
discussion. If you decide to respond, and I hope that you do, you will
be a laughingstock of this chat group. Go ahead, respond.
Give me the opportunity to expose your prejudice and disdain for J.D.
and Elvis. It is funny because I know that you are scared to post a
response. I have forgotten more about J.D. and Elvis than you and your
closest 10 friends all know combined. Give me a chance to prove it,
please? You are out of your league on this topic.
You had better pack your bags and run like the coward that you are.
You talked bad about J.D. after he died, not while he was alive. That
makes you a coward, buddy. Now shut up about J.D. before you really get
embarrassed in front of the world. You are no competition for me. None.
Darrin
In article <s2okve...@corp.supernews.com>,
"CJB" <BELLE...@inetone.net> wrote:
> Should I respond? This is such an old issue, but I'm so tempted.
>
> > Why was I so mad in the last post? CJB said J.D. was "nasal-
toned",
> > said that J.D. grew "dutch-boy hair in the 70's", and claimed that
> > J.D. "prostituted the Stamps for a little bit of Elvis' TCB money".
CJB
> > dishonored and disrespected the good name of J.D. Sumner. I will not
> > stand by and be silent while mean-spirited lies like CJB told are
being
> > spread throughout the internet. Did you notice that CJB said these
> > things AFTER J.D. Sumner passed away?
> >
> > CJB was too much of a coward to say those things while J.D. was
> > alive. Those of us who knew J.D. know that even though J.D. was in
his
> > early 70's, he would have let CJB have it full blast. Probably in
> > his "I Can't Wait" column. In closing, Mark Lowry told unfunny jokes
> > about J.D. Sumner's funeral.
>
>
Carol LeFevre
There is still a right way and a wrong way to convey your thoughts
even though you were upset at what was said. Name calling may make you
feel better but it doesn't help your cause much.
I get the feeling that I must be the dinosaur in this news group. I
was at a singing at the Masonic Temple auditorium in Detroit, Michigan
about 1959 or 1960. My girlfriend, a beautiful 19 year old redhead,
asked J.D. if she could have her picture made with him. Certainly, he
replied, and got in REAL close and a little too friendly (with his
hands) before the shutter snapped. We were a couple of stupid, naive
teenagers and boy were we ever surprised. I just recently read his book
and now have a little more respect for him than for all the years I
carried that memory of a dirty old man who was a gospel singer.
KJCSmith1
>replied, and got in REAL close and a little too friendly (with his
>hands) before the shutter snapped. We were a couple of stupid, naive
>teenagers and boy were we ever
Not to call you a liar, but I knew J.D. all my life and can't believe for a
minute that this happened.
David Murray
What attitude would that be? Pointing out a common practice for a forum
should be considered a "good thing."
> Just because some time had passed,
> that does not mean that I cannot defend J.D. Sumner's good name.
If you had read all the old posts, you'd have seen me defending JD at
that time. If you had continued, I seem to recall there was some sort of
apology on the part of CJB about it as well. I may be remembering
another issue however.
At any rate, I stand by my original statement that dredging it all up
again after months have passed does more harm than good. If it keeps
coming back, those sort of things get all the focus of discussion and
nothing new or productive takes place. I know it's pointless to say this
to you, based on your response. Nevermind what is considered courteous
in this forum.
In six months, there'll be another newcomer reading old posts and
bringing it all up again.
> If I read something that was said about J.D. two years ago or twenty
> years ago, and it is full of lies and a disregard for J.D.'s memory,
> then I am going to respond to it. Thank you for explaining to me your
> understanding of the time factor in when one can respond to CJB. I
> appreciate it.
As I explained, this is considered a common courtesy on Usenet in
general. It's not just my own opinion. I don't recall seeing you post in
this group previously. It's also considered a Usenet courtesy to read
the group for a while before joining in the conversation.
Blessings,
David Murray
KJCSmith1
>embarrassed you and proven you to be a liar, you will keep your mouth
>shut about J.D. and Elvis in the future.
No he won't Darrin.....he can't resist getting to arguments.
> Your comment about J.D. spending the last few years of his life on
>talk shows is a bona fide lie. He went on Geraldo to defend the honor
>of Elvis Presley.
You are right about that Darrin....I watch the talk shows and the only one J.D.
was on was Geraldo and Geraldo hasn't been on for years now.
>ave met a man who has the knowledge
>about J.D. Sumner and Elvis Presley to demolish you in a debate or a
>discussion.
Darrin he doesn't debate or discussion...he is more into calling names.
AS for J.D. and Elvis I remember when Elvis was going be in my hometown. I
didn't want to go until I found out that J.D. and the Stamps were with him.
After the concert J.D. introduced me to Elvis and Elvis said that it was the
first time he ever got thrown over for his back up group.
Doctor Lovable
KJCSmith1 <kjcs...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19991112183534...@ng-fs1.aol.com...
Don't you mean you WON'T believe it? Just because J.D. was a phenomenal
bass singer and was a friend of yours, doesn't mean he's up for sainthood
and had no flaws. Based on many other things I've heard about J.D. this
story makes perfect sense to me. (I never knew the man ..... just heresay.)
I have to wonder though if it's just something in the Detroit air, or that
those old timers shared their groping tactics with one another??? I saw
with my own eyes another prominent, famous, old time singer do EXACTLY this
same thing 20 years ago in Allen Park, Michigan and there was NO DOUBT about
what he did! I won't mention his name, but even if I did, you WOULDN'T
believe it!
Doc
KJCSmith1
>and had no flaws. Based on many other things I've heard about J.D. this
>story makes perfect sense to me. (I never knew the man ..... just heresay.)
Didn't say he didn't have flaws. And if you never knew him and never talked to
him then you are basing your thinking on rumors. And like I said I have known
him all my life and this is the first time I have ever heard anything of this
sort.
> I won't mention his name, but even if I did, you WOULDN'T
>believe it!
>
You know what happens when you make assumptions don't you. Don't assume to
know what I will and will not believe.
Carol LeFevre
ought to know". I took the picture and I have it around here somewhere.
And, there were always a bunch of good looking, well dressed women
hanging around the record tables flrting with all the groups. Some of
the men flirted back and some guys didn't. Remember we're talking almost
40 years ago. CL
dme...@my-deja.com
You have tried to spread a lie about J.D. Sumner being "too friendly
with his hands". I agree with KJCSmith that you made up this story just
to smear the reputation of a man who you don't like. I have never,
ever, heard of Mr. J.D. Sumner being inappropriate with a fan during
picture-taking. Is that the best you can come up with? Your imagination
must be that of a three-year old.
That is one of the stupidest things you could fabricated. Do you
really think that people will believe that garbage? You and CJB are the
two biggest idiots who I've seen so far in any news group. You are low-
down for telling lies about Mr. Sumner. His family, friends, and fans
do not appreciate your spreading lies and rumors. Why don't you try
telling the truth for once in your life.
Darrin
In article <sI2X3.49325$it.11...@news2.rdc1.on.home.com>,
"Doctor Lovable" <drlovable...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> KJCSmith1 <kjcs...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19991112183534...@ng-fs1.aol.com...
> > >Certainly, he
> > >replied, and got in REAL close and a little too friendly (with his
> > >hands) before the shutter snapped. We were a couple of stupid,
naive
> > >teenagers and boy were we ever
> >
> >
> > Not to call you a liar, but I knew J.D. all my life and can't
believe for
> a
> > minute that this happened.
> >
>
> Don't you mean you WON'T believe it? Just because J.D. was a
phenomenal
> bass singer and was a friend of yours, doesn't mean he's up for
sainthood
> and had no flaws. Based on many other things I've heard about J.D.
this
> story makes perfect sense to me. (I never knew the man ..... just
heresay.)
>
> I have to wonder though if it's just something in the Detroit air, or
that
> those old timers shared their groping tactics with one another??? I
saw
> with my own eyes another prominent, famous, old time singer do
EXACTLY this
> same thing 20 years ago in Allen Park, Michigan and there was NO
DOUBT about
> what he did! I won't mention his name, but even if I did, you
WOULDN'T
> believe it!
>
> Doc
KJCSmith1
>to smear the reputation of a man who you don't like.
Darrin don't put words in my mouth. I said I didn't believe J.D. would do
this. I DID NOT SAY that the person made up the story just to smean the
reputation of a man he didn't like.
Carol LeFevre
can give anyone who wants to know the name of my friend that it happened
to and her telephone number. IT IS NOT A LIE , IT HAPPENED JUST LIKE I
SAID IT DID. I have never found it necessary to lie. Stick with the
truth and you'll never get in trouble. I'm sorry if you have trouble
believing anything "bad" about J.D. Sumner but contrary to the picture
you are trying to paint he was human, NOT superhuman. Did you know him
in 1959? Were you sleeping 6 feet from him then? Were you even born in
1959? Sorry Darrin, you don't know what you are talking about on this
one. And it was NOT CJB or Doc who told this originally so get your
names straight before you go barking up the wrong tree. Really though I
think you ought to get a grip before you have a stroke.
Doctor Lovable
<dme...@my-deja.com> ranted and whined in message
news:811m33$95i$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Dr. Lovable,
>You have tried to spread a lie about J.D. Sumner being "too friendly
> to smear the reputation of a man who you don't like.
> rant snipped .......... does anybody really want to read this all again
for the 1,000th time???>
Dear Mr. Memmer,
I had contemplated writing a lengthy reply to your string of hate directed
towards me, but I feel you've already been beaten like a Mexican mule by
enough people around here. However, for future reference, please note that
it would generally be considered polite and courteous, to actually READ a
message before launching into a tirade of insults against someone. If you
had taken half the energy to actually read my message as you did to hurl
your insults at me in your reply, you would have noticed that I was NOT the
person who "made up" this story!
If you had been paying attention to this group at all over the past month or
so, you would have known that we've had a fair bit of discussion about many
individuals in the sg music field who are not living a lifestyle that they
should be. When KJCSmith suggested she "couldn't" believe this story about
JD, I simply suggested that it wasn't that she "could not", it was that she
"would not". There is a difference between those 2 phrases! Sometimes we
turn people into heroes, and our love and respect for them makes us refuse
to believe anything negative about them. I know that I have been guilty of
this myself!
As for your rant that I somehow am trying to "smear the reputation of a man
I don't like," all I can say is that I did like JD! Although I certainly
didn't know him as well as you, I thought he was one of the most, if not the
most, fabulous bass singer ever when he was in his prime. His articles in
the Singing News were great. His contributions to the SG world are
numerous. Darrin, may I suggest to you that JD Sumner was quite capable of
making his own reputation! He doesn't need your help or mine to make his
reputation any better or worse. There are always positive and negative
stories going around about anyone, (even JD) and people will choose for
themselves which of these they will believe. No amount of ranting and name
calling will change people's opinion of JD ........ JD made his own
reputation!!!
Darrin, we have all read many times now that you are the world renowned,
all-time
expert on JD Sumner. Although virtually everyone who posts to this group is
an idiot, I think most of us are smart enough that we now have this fact
well cemented into our brains. We don't need to be told that again. We also
have heard from your fountain of
wisdom that virtually everyone in this newsgroup is a moron and a
simpleton. We don't need to hear that again either! May I please suggest
that if
you are going to continue to post to this news group, that you have
something NEW to say?
God Bless,
Doc
dme...@my-deja.com
Dr. Lovable cuts and snipets so much in his posts it is difficult to
discern who the original author was. Regardless if he was the original
author or not, he stated that it was right in line with what he had
heard about J.D. He was debating Kathy, who said that she didn't
believe it. Now did you talk about something being in the Detroit air,
or was that Dr.? Or was that Kathy? It was clear in the post that he
was trying to smear J.D.'s name. That is the point.
It is so obvious to me that the loud-mouth members of this group do
not like somebody joining in to correct some lies that were told a few
months ago. I didn't come to this group to be perceived as a bad guy
and a mean talker. I posted a reply to one man - CJB. Not you, not dr.
full of lies, not kathy, not some of the other self proclaiming
Christians who have joined in to this argument.
I dislike and despise CJB for what he has said about J.D. Sumner and
Elvis Presley. What he said about me, was clearly a feeble attemt to
get me back for what I stated his color was. YELLOW is the man's color.
But why do the rest of you Christians feel that you need to rally
around a liar and a coward? How many times do I have to repeat this.
CJB DISRESPECTED J.D. SUMNER AND ELVIS PRESLEY. THIS IS WHY I POSTED
A MESSAGE IN THIS GROUP. It was not personal toward you. It was not
personal toward anybody else. So many people jumped against me after I
responded to CJB in the beginning, it has put me at odds with three or
four people.
Now dr. full of lies is trying to get me into an exchange with him.
Your a fine example of a Christian lady. Congratulations. Have you not
read that those who gossip, are doomed? Gossip and harming a man's name
is a sin. That is what the Bible teaches, right? Carol, thank you very
much for understanding that I did not, and have not ever said, in this
chat group, that J.D. was perfect. I did say that CJB was a liar and
was dishonest when speaking about Mr. Sumner.
DM
In article <423-383...@storefull-121.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Doctor Lovable
<dme...@my-deja.com> ranted and whined once again in message
news:814i5m$c2o$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Carol,
>
<hate and drivel snipped>
Apology accepted,
God Bless,
Doc
dme...@my-deja.com
We have gotten pretty far off track in this discussion. Partly it has
been my fault and partly the fault of you guys. My first post to this
group was a defense of J.D. Sumner. That is all I intended to do, to
defend my friend. I did that. Offending other members of the group was
not my aim. But the snowball effect got this whole discussion out of
control.
The last week has not been productive. Other members of the group are
asking that we stop our ongoing posts. I agree that we have said
enough. If you guys are ready to end the debate, then so am I. I was
never a part of the group and certainly don't intend to participate
again.
We all need to part with some dignity and respect, so keep that in
mind as I ask you both to agree that we don't talk about each other
anymore in this chat group. You post a response to this one, and then
we end the discussion. All three of us got our licks in against the
other. Let's wind it down now. Is that agreeable with you Doc, and CJB?
Darrin
In article <gAlZ3.73196$it.17...@news2.rdc1.on.home.com>,
"Doctor Lovable" <drlo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Doc
Doctor Lovable
God Bless,
Doc
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