Legacy Five
Norm Brown
coming to the area next month, and I am trying to decide if I want to
see them again this year, as I was not that happy with last years
concert . Thanks for any comebacks. Is it always slow here this time of
the year, lots of days ,no one shows up it seems unles they have a
question or an answer for smeone. God Bless
Norm Brown
musicman
were displeased with from the first time you saw them?
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David Ching
Tony had only been with them for a week or two (had not been made permanent
yet) but they sounded really good. IMHO, much better than with Josh Cobb.
(I had heard the original Legacy Five at the Great Western Quartet
Convention in April of last year.) It was a great evening. I guess it
would be 8 out of 10 stars; they took the Cathedrals' date of years past at
the same church, and of course those Cats concerts were 11 out of 10! ;)
By all means, go and enjoy L5. They'll probably be singing some new songs
from their upcoming album.
-- David
Paul Slopak Jr.
top echelon quartet worthy of all the fuss and publicity they have
generated.
Scott Fowler is the weak link, hardly able to carry his part. He blew the
lead part on several resurrections of old Cathedral songs. Josh Cobb was a
jerk. He was unprofessional and acted like a spoiled kid who knew exactly
what he was doing and loving the fact he was on stage and nobody could do
anything about it. Thank God he is gone.
Roger Bennett makes the group a quintet on more songs than you can stand. He
needs to stay behind the piano and do what he does best - play!
When they were on stage, it looked like both Roger and Scott were fighting
(jockeying, etc.) for the head honcho position. They really looked lost for
stage presence without the old masters.
Just my opinion. Don't get ballistic.
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> We heard the Legacy 5 at the NQC. They have a long way to go to get to be
a
> top echelon quartet worthy of all the fuss and publicity they have
> generated.
Was this early in the week, or later? I saw them on Wednesday, I think,
around midnight. I disagree with your assessment of Scott Fowler being a
weak link. He's no Arthur Rice by any stretch, but he's a heck of a lot
better singer than, say, Phil Cross. I agree that Roger should play the
piano more. Josh Cobb was OK, but I felt Glenn Dustin was more deserving of
the Horizon Individual award that Cobb won. He's gone now, so that's
irrelevant. Unanimously, from every single report I've heard, his
replacement is much better. As for the jockeying for position between Scott
and Roger, I didn't see that at all. Roger is the emcee and that's what he
did.
Bottom line: L5 is a very good, balanced quartet. Some people expect them to
measure up to the Cathedrals, and they don't, but I don't think that should
generate criticism that puts them lower than they really are. I agree with
you that they're over-rated, but they DO sound and look as good or better
than 80% of their competition. Right now, if making a list of the top male
groups, I'd put them on a list about like:
1. Gold City
2. Gaither Vocal Band
3. The Kingsmen
4. The Kingdom Heirs
5. Palmetto State Quartet
6. The Dove Brothers
7. Legacy Five
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I think I'd have to disagree strongly about Scott not being the weak
link. He's easily the weakest of the four vocalists and it may have
been ego rather than talent that landed him the lead position. Someone
here recently said (and I agree) that Scott Fowler left a group with a
weak baritone to join a group with a weak lead.
The only person in the group whom Scott can outsing is Roger.
Unfortunately, Roger doesn't seem to know this and insists on singing
(or singing along with) on every song. How can anyone sing that poorly
and not know that they can't sing? He has a pitch problem as well as a
head tone problem, both of which can be solved with work - work that,
apparently, Roger is uninterested in.
Tony Jarman is great news. He's a much better singer than Josh Cobb who
reminded me of the Bible story of Balaam - you know, the one about the
talking ass. Young Mr. Cobb will likely not be missed by many since he
didn't go out of his way to be friendly to most people. Jarman, on the
other hand, is a great singer and appears to be a people person as
well.
Dan
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> Paul Slopak Jr. <pauls...@home.com> wrote in message
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> > We heard the Legacy 5 at the NQC. They have a long way to go to get to
be
> a
> > top echelon quartet worthy of all the fuss and publicity they have
> > generated.
>
>
to
> measure up to the Cathedrals, and they don't, but I don't think that
should
> generate criticism that puts them lower than they really are.
Agreed ....... These guys started out with the hottest bookings in the
industry, major recording and booking agency contracts, the blessing of the
greatest bass singer going, were perceived by many to be carrying on the
"Legacy" of the Cathedrals and had more hoopla and industry talk than any
group ever. They were touted as the number one group before they'd ever
sung one note in public. While this may seem like a great thing, the
problem simply stated is ....... When a group starts out at the very top,
there is only one direction their future can go, and that is DOWN!
>I agree with
> you that they're over-rated, but they DO sound and look as good or better
> than 80% of their competition. Right now, if making a list of the top male
> groups, I'd put them on a list about like:
>
> 1. Gold City
> 2. Gaither Vocal Band
> 3. The Kingsmen
> 4. The Kingdom Heirs
> 5. Palmetto State Quartet
> 6. The Dove Brothers
> 7. Legacy Five
>
Not a bad list David, although I'd put the Dove Bros a little higher and
Gold City down a notch or 2.
Keep Pickin'
Merchants & Farmers
Melody Boys...they belong in anyone's top three quartets on the road today!
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Nathan Maack
managment that blew them up as being one of the greatest to come along. It
takes time for a group to get the perfect sound and blend. I'm sure that the
top groups today didn't start out at the top. Legacy Five is doing what they're
called to do, serve the Lord with music.
L_T_...@webtv.net
good ones as I have heard both sides myself.
Have an opportunity to see them this weekend, and will offer my
"two-bits worth" when I return.
Looking forward to it!
David Murray (SG Fan)
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>
> > 1. Gold City
> > 2. Gaither Vocal Band
> > 3. The Kingsmen
> > 4. The Kingdom Heirs
> > 5. Palmetto State Quartet
> > 6. The Dove Brothers
> > 7. Legacy Five
> >
>
>
> Not a bad list David, although I'd put the Dove Bros a little higher and
> Gold City down a notch or 2.
Well, I'll tell you why I put a group like PSQ above the Doves: McCray has
just about blown his gasket for good.
David Murray (SG Fan)
Merchants & Farmers <mrch...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> That's an impressive quartet list by far...but give a good listen to the
> Melody Boys...they belong in anyone's top three quartets on the road
today!
I like The Melody Boys very much. Sawrie is a tremendous talent at lead and
quite a witty emcee as well. They aren't scared to walk on stage with just a
piano and four mics, which is another plus for them. However, IMO, they do
lag a bit behind the other groups I mentioned in one area. That's the
ability to come out and completely command the stage. In a 1200 - 2500 seat
theatre or church type setting they rate right up there with the best groups
in the industry, but in a large arena they don't do enough to compensate for
the size of the room.
Clarence Grigsby
Also when did you see them? Was it one of their first concerts?
roll...@worldnet.att.net (musicman)
My website
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Clarence Grigsby
and I think one of us wasn't paying attention.You wrote:
"We heard the Legacy 5 at the NQC. They have a long way to go to get to
be a top echelon quartet worthy of all the fuss and publicity they have
generated."
RESPONSE: ANYBODY would have a tough time living up to that!!! I just
judged their performance as I would any nine month old quartet. Using
that standard, they were very good.
You wrote:
"Scott Fowler is the weak link, hardly able to carry his part. He blew
the lead part on several resurrections of old Cathedral songs."
RESPONSE: They did a grand total of TWO Cats songs. Did Scott blow the
lead on "Boundless Love" or "Jesus Saves"? I personally didn't hear it.
You wrote:
" Josh Cobb was a jerk. He was unprofessional and acted like a spoiled
kid who knew exactly what he was doing and loving the fact he was on
stage and nobody could do anything about it. Thank God he is gone."
RESPONSE: Hmmm, do you know young Mr.Cobb well enough to comment on his
personality? What do you base your comments on?
You wrote:
"Roger Bennett makes the group a quintet on more songs than you can
stand. He needs to stay behind the piano and do what he does best -
play!"
RESPONSE: Every song the Cats ever released that featured Roger vocally
was a resounding success . I guess somebody likes the man's vocals. You
gotta give folks what they want. Personally I enjoy it.
You wrote:
"When they were on stage, it looked like both Roger and Scott were
fighting (jockeying, etc.) for the head honcho position."
RESPONSE: Paul, you saw something that I DEFINITELY DIDN'T SEE! LOL, How
good were your seats! Could you give a few examples?
You wrote:
"They really looked lost for stage presence without the old masters."
RESPONSE: Yeah, on Monday night, I spent the whole program missing
George and Glen. No, they don't have the Cathedral's presence on stage.
These things take time.
You wrote:
"Just my opinion. Don't get ballistic."
RESPONSE: Interesting opinions. just wondering what you base some of
them on.
My website
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Clarence Grigsby
leave SG is beyond me. We have so many kind and loving fans for this
genre of music, particularly in this ng.
dstu...@hotmail.com wrote:
Tony Jarman is great news. He's a much better singer than Josh Cobb who
reminded me of the Bible story of Balaam - you know, the one about the
talking ass.
See what I mean................
My website
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Leslie,James,Larry Moore
evidently thought Scott Fowler,Roger Bennett, & Ernie Haase were very
good or they would not have been in The Cathedral Qt. Have a heart
Roger`s been sick.
James
JSB13
the quartet convention last year, but several of my friends and family
members did. They unanimously and independently said that when the Melody
Boys came out on stage on Monday night and performed with just the piano and
four mics, as you alluded to, that they had the entire place in the palm of
their hands. Gold City is still my favorite, and the Gaither Vocal Band is
probably a little more versatile, but I have to place the Melody Boys in my
top 3. I don't know if there's another group on the road that has the
talent or the guts to go back to the classic era with just the piano as the
Melody Boys do so often.
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Paul Slopak Jr.
I don't care for the Legacy V and my bias shows.
If you didn't hear Scott blow Jesus Saves big time then you have a tin ear
or else you are like the rest of the people who are blinded by their shining
silver spoons.
David Murray (SG Fan)
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> That's an interesting point, about commanding the stage. I could not
attend
> the quartet convention last year, but several of my friends and family
> members did. They unanimously and independently said that when the Melody
> Boys came out on stage on Monday night and performed with just the piano
and
> four mics, as you alluded to, that they had the entire place in the palm
of
> their hands.
True, but that's not exactly what I'm talking about. Getting the attention
of the audience is only part of it. The Gaither Vocal Band establishes a
certain mood when they hit the stage, and they can segue from that into
something completely different at a moment's notice. The GVB accomplishes
this by doing several things very well at the same time or in rapid
succession. Things that would be "over the top" in a smaller setting are
perfectly suited to a crowd of 20,000.
I noticed that The Hoppers were a bit overwhelming with the crowd of about
800 last Thursday night (I was sitting on the second row, which magnified
the effect). However, their stage antics are perfect with the NQC crowd.
The contrast with The Melody Boys is that they have one main strength, and
they are one of the few groups left that sings that way. The smart thing for
them to do is milk that primary unique quality and that's exactly what they
do.
> Gold City is still my favorite, and the Gaither Vocal Band is
> probably a little more versatile, but I have to place the Melody Boys in
my
> top 3. I don't know if there's another group on the road that has the
> talent or the guts to go back to the classic era with just the piano as
the
> Melody Boys do so often.
I agree that The Melody Boys (along with The Statesmen) are the true pros
when it comes to singing in the old style. I disagree with your point that
other groups don't have the talent to do it, though. It's more a case of
them choosing not to do that style. Radio demands a fully orchestrated
sound. I'm not saying that's a good thing. It's just the way it is.
dstu...@hotmail.com
Cathed...@webtv.net (Clarence Grigsby) wrote:
> Last I heard, Josh is going to do solo work in CCM. Why anyone would
> leave SG is beyond me. We have so many kind and loving fans for this
> genre of music, particularly in this ng.
>
> dstu...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Tony Jarman is great news. He's a much better singer than Josh Cobb
who
> reminded me of the Bible story of Balaam - you know, the one about the
> talking ass.
>
> See what I mean................
Clarence, you probably shouldn't speak of what you don't know. Having
dealt with Josh Cobb severalt times, I think he was accurately
described by my comment.
dstu...@hotmail.com
Well, that may be a valid point, but it's probably equally valid that
if George and Glen hadn't sold each of those guys so hard over the
years, the fans would've probably never chosen them as their
favorites. In other words, audiences are usually naive. Ninety percent
of them have no idea about talent and what makes the difference between
a good singer and one who only has some charisma onstage. (A prime
example would be the McKameys who, while they don't sing flat, simply
don't have pleasing voices. But that's not why people pay to hear
them...they pay for the pseudo-spiritual experience of watching Peg "do
her thang".)
As far as Roger, I do have a heart and I'm well aware that he's been
sick. Does that mean he can't be the object of discussion? Cancer or
not, he can't sing and he would do better to play the piano which is
what he does best and certainly what he was hired for. His health has
no bearing on this conversation.
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
WReunion
Scott may have a slighly better voice however, he by no means could ever be
considered a great voice. You have to remember these 2 guys were surrounded by
the best of the very best that's why they were accepted by the audiences. They
don't have that now. Roger is no George Younce as an emcee. You have to
remember Scott's part was buried in the Cat's mix. I think he makes a good
baritone..but he is no lead singer.
Paul Slopak Jr.
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Re: Legacy Five
Group: alt.music.gospel.southern Date: Mon, Jan 15, 2001, 1:51am (CST+6)
From: pauls...@home.com (Paul Slopak Jr.)
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Paul,are you someone who hears things that aren`t there,or do you just
want to,
THINK ABOUT IT
James Moore
Neal R. Champion
> news:93kp05$g5m$1...@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net...
> > That's an impressive quartet list by far...but give a good listen to the
> > Melody Boys...they belong in anyone's top three quartets on the road
> today!
>
> I like The Melody Boys very much. Sawrie is a tremendous talent at lead
and
> quite a witty emcee as well. They aren't scared to walk on stage with just
a
> piano and four mics, which is another plus for them. However, IMO, they do
> lag a bit behind the other groups I mentioned in one area. That's the
> ability to come out and completely command the stage. In a 1200 - 2500
seat
> theatre or church type setting they rate right up there with the best
groups
> in the industry, but in a large arena they don't do enough to compensate
for
> the size of the room.
>
David,
You must not have been at NQC 2000 on Monday night when things were rolling
along so-so until the Melody Boys stepped out on stage and electrified the
crowd of 10,000 to 15,000! Just them and the piano and the place came
apart!
As far as their talent...The Melody Boys are the only top group left that
what you see is what you hear. Both on their records and in their live
concerts you hear four voices, a true quartet. Every single other top group
records and performs with stacked vocals. Some have them stacked so high
that they could stop singing on stage and it would sound the same. The
Melody Boys are solid as a rock 4 part 4 voice harmony. There just aren't
any other top groups left like that.
Neal
David Murray (SG Fan)
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> David,
>
> You must not have been at NQC 2000 on Monday night when things were
rolling
> along so-so until the Melody Boys stepped out on stage and electrified the
> crowd of 10,000 to 15,000! Just them and the piano and the place came
> apart!
I was there sitting in the eighth row from the stage.
Did you read my follow-up post on this subject where I more thoroughly
defined what I talking about? It's not merely a matter of getting the
audience fired up. I was impressed by the MBQ, no doubt about it, but at
what point did they suddenly take the audience into a new direction? At what
point did they have four very different things going on at the same time
that were all very interesting to watch? At what point did they address the
entire audience simultaneously? As I recall, the three singers on stage
stayed pretty clumped up together for the whole segment.
Those are some of the differences between being basic, solid entertainment,
which they are, and totally taking command of the stage. With these
parameters in mind, compare the MBQ performance with the Gaither Vocal Band
or Gold City, two groups who completely take command when they hit a big
stage.
Scott Bouldin
True, TRADITIONAL, Southern Gospel quality is not appreciated as it should
be these days. I am going out on a limb for myself here, because I have
been a HUGE Gold City fan for as long as I can remember. And the Gaither
Vocal Band is a very entertaining group with outstanding vocals and smooth
harmony. But when you examine true traditional Southern Gospel music,
NOBODY does it like the Melody Boys. Period. Every position is solid
vocally. Jonathan Sawrie is a classic lead singer straight out of the 50's
and 60's! There is no better bass singer on the road today than Gerald
Williams, as far as smoothness and true bass harmony singing. Mike Franklin
is a solid tenor, again mirroring tenors from the past. And Jeremy Rains is
one of the most under-rated talents that have come into SG music over the
past few years. The harmony and arranging of the Melody Boys music is as
traditional and flawless as it gets. I have almost wore out my 'Classics
Collection' CD, and I am still not tired of it. The comedy that is mixed-in
throughout their performances is very classy and appropriate, yet very
entertaining. And these guys truly appreciate their fans and are very
approachable in concert settings (many of our groups should take lessons!).
They are the perfect compliment to the groups of old. Try this, petition
all other groups to leave the mini-discs behind, leave the bands behind, and
pick up a good old Stamps-Baxter songbook and start singing with just the
piano. And just see what kind of response you get. I get very disturbed
from time to time when I see how groups with so much less talent are
constantly pushed to the top and are so over-hyped. I'm VERY pleased with
the February edition of the Singing News, because this is the first time in
a very long time that there are 5 top quality songs by 5 top quality
Southern Gospel groups in the top 5 positions of the chart. It's been a
long time coming, and there's still progress to be made on the charts. But,
I got off on a tangent...bottom line is this: Gold City, the Gaither Vocal
Band, the Dove Brothers, Palmetto State, the Florida Boys, and the Kingdom
Heirs are all in the top echelon of Southern Gospel quartets of today. But
when you place the Melody Boys against any of the aforementioned groups,
when you compare absolute talent, class, and tradition...well, there just
isn't any comparison! And that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it! :)
--
J. Scott Bouldin
Vice President
Merchants & Farmers Bank
David Murray (SG Fan)
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> Sadly, this case is very similar to so many others in Southern Gospel
music.
> True, TRADITIONAL, Southern Gospel quality is not appreciated as it should
> be these days. I am going out on a limb for myself here, because I have
> been a HUGE Gold City fan for as long as I can remember. And the Gaither
> Vocal Band is a very entertaining group with outstanding vocals and smooth
> harmony. But when you examine true traditional Southern Gospel music,
> NOBODY does it like the Melody Boys
I don't dispute that, but that wasn't the context of the list I made. My
list rated male quartets in 2001 and put Legacy Five in what I feel is the
proper context of modern male quartets. Legacy Five is a little over a year
old. Their main competition isn't the traditional sound of the 1950s.
> bottom line is this: Gold City, the Gaither Vocal
> Band, the Dove Brothers, Palmetto State, the Florida Boys, and the Kingdom
> Heirs are all in the top echelon of Southern Gospel quartets of today.
But
> when you place the Melody Boys against any of the aforementioned groups,
> when you compare absolute talent, class, and tradition...well, there just
> isn't any comparison! And that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it! :)
Interestingly, this ties in with the Dove Awards thread. Do you prefer the
MBQ mainly because they sing in the traditional style that you like? Or do
you truly think (objectively) that the MBQ members are superior all around
performers to people like Jonathan Wilburn, Guy Penrod, Arthur Rice, David
Phelps, Tim Riley, etc.? I think David Phelps and Jay Parrack blow Mike
Franklin out of the water on a pure talent perspective, for example, not
that Franklin isn't a capable professional, but the other two guys seem to
dig deeper to communicate. It's true they sometimes get carried away and go
over the top (which is appropriate in a really big building, IMO), but let's
forget about the class element for a minute. Could Mike Franklin go over the
top like them if he wanted to? I don't see it happening. I respect your
opinion and pretty much agree with two-thirds of it (tradition and class),
but I don't think the MBQ is in the same league talent wise as the other
groups you listed, especially when you consider the demands of large concert
settings. I'm sticking with that!
BTW, I was also happy with the top 5 of the charts in the Feb. Singing News.
Beware, though. McKameys are on another climb. :o)
REvans2311
5 top quality songs by 5 top quality
>Southern Gospel groups in the top 5 positions of the chart
I would be interested in comments on the top 5 nominees by the SGMA in certain
categories.
David Murray (SG Fan)
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>
> I would be interested in comments on the top 5 nominees by the SGMA in
certain
> categories.
I'll be glad to comment if you'll list those nominees here.
Mary
with a lot of expectations on them.
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
Fowler blew it.
Are you sure one of the other members didn`t drown him out on the ending
making you think Scott was off key?
James
Clarence Grigsby
Tony Rush
I'll have to agree with Paul on this one. I didn't hear L5 during the NQC,
but I know what Paul is referring to. I think Scott would have been better
in L5 if he'd stayed in the baritone position.
Tony
Diahann Click
Clarenc...@webtv.net (Clarence Grigsby) wrote:
Ok, ok, I'l admit it!!!! It was ME!!!! I was there Friday night at the
NQC, singing REALLY LOUD. It picked up on L5's mics and destroyed their
performance of "Jesus Saves". Yes it was me, not Josh or Scott, that
ruined the whole thing! I am sorry, I feel that I have let the Clarence
Grigsbys of the world down. Me and my tin ear......:-)
Neal R. Champion
> groups you listed, especially when you consider the demands of large
concert
> settings. I'm sticking with that!
>
If this is so then why do all of the other groups mentioned (Gaither Vocal
Band, Gold City, Kingdom Heirs) record with so many stacked vocals? and
also perform live with stacked vocals?
If they have more talent than the MBQ then they choose not to show it but
rather to use a crutch of stacked vocals to make their sound more full.
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
james
David Murray (SG Fan)
For the same reason they use bass guitar, drum sets, and horn sections in
their tracks. It's the way things are done in 2000. Anything sounds a little
"better" when it's a little fuller. At least, that's the mindset of today's
producers. It's no reflection on the actual talent level of the members of
Gold City et al.
RayDunakin
audience fired up. I was impressed by the MBQ, no doubt about it, but at
what point did they suddenly take the audience into a new direction? At what
point did they have four very different things going on at the same time
that were all very interesting to watch? At what point did they address the
entire audience simultaneously? As I recall, the three singers on stage
stayed pretty clumped up together for the whole segment. >>
What was the singing like? The music is much more important to me than the
"show" aspects. I realize that for a live concert a group has to put some body
language into their performance, but the actual singing is important thing.
That's what I go to a concert for, to hear good singing.
In fact, I don't care much for concerts that have a strong emphasis on putting
on a show as opposed to just getting up there and doing some quality singing.
If the singing's good you don't need a lot of "show", and if the singing's not
so good, all the show biz stuff isn't going to help.
RayDunakin
the fans would've probably never chosen them as their favorites. In other
words, audiences are usually naive. Ninety percent
of them have no idea about talent and what makes the difference between a good
singer and one who only has some charisma onstage. >>
I can't speak for any other fans, but I for one know a good singer when I hear
one, and call tell good from bad. I also don't give a hoot about onstage
performance -- almost all of my exposure to the music has been through
recordings, not concerts. I'm really starting to think that's been a blessing.
It has kept my focus on the MUSIC (and of course, the message in the music),
without the distraction of personalities, stage antics, etc.
I haven't yet heard Legacy 5, but when I listen to the Cats, I hear great
singing, and not just by Glen and George.
David Murray (SG Fan)
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> << It's not merely a matter of getting the
> audience fired up. I was impressed by the MBQ, no doubt about it, but at
> what point did they suddenly take the audience into a new direction? At
what
> point did they have four very different things going on at the same time
> that were all very interesting to watch? At what point did they address
the
> entire audience simultaneously? As I recall, the three singers on stage
> stayed pretty clumped up together for the whole segment. >>
>
> What was the singing like? The music is much more important to me than the
> "show" aspects. I realize that for a live concert a group has to put some
body
> language into their performance, but the actual singing is important
thing.
> That's what I go to a concert for, to hear good singing.
The singing is excellent in all of the groups that have been mentioned
(certainly including the MBQ). The distinction being drawn is between groups
that adapt to large settings in a way that enhances the singing. Tasteful
showmanship can go a long way toward this end.
> In fact, I don't care much for concerts that have a strong emphasis on
putting
> on a show as opposed to just getting up there and doing some quality
singing.
> If the singing's good you don't need a lot of "show",
If there's no point at all to the show aspect of a concert, you may as well
stay at home and listen to a CD. It's cheaper that way, and there are less
distractions.
> and if the singing's not
> so good, all the show biz stuff isn't going to help.
True. The talent has to be there. I don't think you're saying Gold City and
the GVB aren't talented, though, are you?
REvans2311
>I haven't yet heard Legacy 5, but when I listen to the Cats, I hear great
>singing, and not just by Glen and George.
>
Yeah occasionally when i want to hear great singing, I get my OLD Cathedral
albums out.
I think the worst album ever released was
DEEP IN THE HEART OF TEXAS.
David Stuart
of Texas, i loved that project, i have it on video and CD, and played it
a million times!
David
REvans2311
>Gee, i don't know what you hated about the Cathedrals Deep in the Heart
>of Texas, i loved that project, i have it on video and CD, and played it
>a million times!
>
>
The entire mix.
So when I want to hear good singing, I go back a few years to when they were
releasing quality albums.
Clarence Grigsby
Clarence Grigsby
David Murray (SG Fan)
I wasn't too fond of _Alive: Deep In The Heart Of Texas_ either, but I'm not
too crazy about most live projects. I did like _Faithful_ and _Radio Days_
from the last line up of the group. Going back to earlier days, probably
_Symphony Of Praise_ is my favorite.
There was a rash of compilations that came out over the last two years. My
favorite one of those is _20 Convention Classics_. Oddly enough, I like it
because it contains several live versions of songs that are more stripped
down than what I'd heard previously.
James Shurley
James
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RayDunakin
like that. Four guys and a piano and they were on the top of their game. >>
Yep. I love that kind of stuff. The Cathedrals did some albums like that in the
late 70's- early 80's. They are among my favorite albums.
Not that I think it has to be that way all the time. Good orchestration has its
place. But I hear a lot of stuff where the orchestration overpowers or
distracts from the singing, and I don't like that.
RayDunakin
were
releasing quality albums. >>
Don't you think "Radio Days" is a quality album? I think it's one of their
best! "Faithful" was pretty darn good too.
REvans2311
>
>Don't you think "Radio Days" is a quality album? I think it's one of their
>best! "Faithful" was pretty darn good too.
Yes thats back a few years. I was referring back further when Funderburk,
Talley and Trammell were with them. I know Talley and Funderburk were not
there at the same time, but the group sure sounded better back then when their
tenor's were better. I am just not an Ernie Haase/Scott Fowler fan.
Personally they are nice but I don't care for their voices.