Cecil Blackwood
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
KJCSmith1
Probably conflicting schedules.
musicman
inclusion on these and virtually any other projects in which the Blackwoods
are honored. the first of Cecil's drawbacks is that he has disgraced the
Blackwood name by his incredibly offensive multiple offering services that
are legendary in gospel music. A cecil Blackwood concert likely will have
more offering appeals than songs - literally. Added to this is the
unscrupulous way he has conducted business. There are many churches who will
not host gospel groups because of some of cecil's past shenanigans. Cecil is
a blight on the Blackwoods and Gospel music in general. Why isn't he here -
you figure it out.
Oh yeah - and to top it all off he can't sing. his tones are notoriously
dull and his pitch is shaky at best.
KJCSmith1 <kjcs...@aol.com> wrote in message
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David Murray (SG Fan)
>I'm afraid that cecil's schedule has nothing to do with his lack of
>inclusion on these and virtually any other projects in which the Blackwoods
>are honored. the first of Cecil's drawbacks is that he has disgraced the
>Blackwood name by his incredibly offensive multiple offering services that
>are legendary in gospel music. A cecil Blackwood concert likely will have
>more offering appeals than songs - literally.
Having attended one of his concerts a year or so ago, I can attest to the
way he does more selling than singing. At one point, he had the bass singer
out in the crowd selling tapes while the other three of them sang "Beulah
Land." Although nobody had requested it, he kept saying stuff like, "Let me
tell you a little more about this church we're sponsoring in Russia, and
then, I promise, we're going to sing 'Beulah Land.' "
But do you know for a fact that this method of presentation is why he isn't
on the Gaither Homecoming projects? I noticed his name was listed on the
family tree inside the Blackwood Homecoming tape with James, Jimmy, and
Terry on the cover, but his contact info was not included with the other
Blackwood performing groups.
>Added to this is the
>unscrupulous way he has conducted business. There are many churches who
will
>not host gospel groups because of some of cecil's past shenanigans. Cecil
is
>a blight on the Blackwoods and Gospel music in general. Why isn't he here -
>you figure it out.
I've heard those types of statements made about Ron Blackwood, but not about
Cecil previously.
>Oh yeah - and to top it all off he can't sing. his tones are notoriously
>dull and his pitch is shaky at best.
We endure a lot of that in Southern Gospel, unfortunately. I don't expect
every singer to sound like Guy Penrod or Ivan Parker, but an ability blend
and hit the right pitches is essential.
David Bruce Murray / dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net
http://rfci.net/dbmurray
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Making hay while the sun shines.
Paul Slopak Jr.
last July. It was in a little church that held about 250 people. There were
about 300 people there and no air conditioning.
Cecil sure stretched the point of "free will offering" with all of his
arm-twisting for the churches and ministers in Russia.
The concert was to start at 7 PM. At 6:40 Cecil came out and gave the first
of several pitches. Finally, at around 7:20 he allowed the group to sing a
few numbers and then said it was time for us to put up the money for the
Russian churches.
About 30 minutes into this offering/intermission/sales pitch we decided it
was too hot and they were not good enough for us to stay any longer.
Needless to say, we will not go to see Cecil again anytime soon. I had to
convince another couple that was being introduced to southern gospel that
this was an abnormal situation.
After attending a Greater Vision concert the following month with us, they
finally got to see what SG was all about. Now they love it.
Rick Sexton
where I attended for a love offering, but he wanted to be the one to appeal
and receive it. You go figure. James ( a great man ) probably regrets the
day he sold all controlling interest in the Blackwood Brothers to
Cecil....The legacy of the name, does not even come close to what James and
his brothers intended it to be.
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"Rick Sexton" <sex...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> Years ago, it was "Bibles For Russia." He offered to come to the
church
> where I attended for a love offering, but he wanted to be the one to
appeal
> and receive it. You go figure. James ( a great man ) probably
regrets the
> day he sold all controlling interest in the Blackwood Brothers to
> Cecil....The legacy of the name, does not even come close to what
James and
> his brothers intended it to be.
I can affirm all of the things that have been mentioned heretofore. We
went to see them to a packed church in Georgia. Cecil had tapes and CDs
lined up on the altar with a product table in the vestibule and we were
there at least 40 minutes before a song was sung. They sang a couple of
songs and he had the bass sing a couple of solos while they worked the
audience and then he made an appeal for the Russians and it went on and
on. We left because we were so uncomfortable to realize that he thought
the audience did not see through him. I would never attend anything with
his name attached again. I like to give everyone the benefit of the
doubt but in this case I was done in.
Shirley
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Clarence Grigsby
seem to be under used are Bill Shaw and Willie Wynn, two tenors who can
still really sing!
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
David Stuart
Gospel Reunion Videos, a lot of the singers you mentioned are on those
videos, which is mostly the old timers!
Have a nice day!
David
Clarence Grigsby
them. Rosie Rozelle was on there with the Master's V and the Statesmen.
He obviously wasn't 100%, but he brought the house down on "If I Can
Help Somebody" and the second verse of "Have a Little Talk With Jesus."
I've been a big Rozelle fan ever since. Unfortunatly, I loaned the tape
to Dad,Dad loaned it to a friend, and I've never seenit since.
Yaderp
>
>
>I've heard those types of statements made about Ron Blackwood, but not
>about Cecil previously.
>
>
>
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Yaderp
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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes
WReunion
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good Blackwood stories.
KJCSmith1
>--
No they are not!
David Stuart
David Stuart
remember were Dan Huskey, Alden Toney, Bill Shaw, and Pat Hoffmaster.
Hank Gillette
wreu...@aol.com (WReunion) wrote:
>Bill Shaw could never sing!!!!
Well, somebody was sure carrying the tenor part on those Blackwood
records from the early fifties. Who was it?
--
Hank Gillette
niven
Blackwood Brothers had returned Dove Awards after accusations of buying
votes with gifts to the judges. Does anyone remember this and who was
leading the Blackwood's at that time? Cecil?
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> Years ago, it was "Bibles For Russia." He offered to come to the church
> where I attended for a love offering, but he wanted to be the one to
appeal
> and receive it. You go figure. James ( a great man ) probably regrets
the
> day he sold all controlling interest in the Blackwood Brothers to
> Cecil....The legacy of the name, does not even come close to what James
and
> his brothers intended it to be.
>
> about
> > Cecil previously.
> >
Yaderp
co1.aol.com>:
>>Are Ron Blackwood and R.W. Blackwood Jr. the same person?
>>--
>
>No they are not!
>
That's good to know. I would hate to think that the name R.W. Blackwood had been
handed down to someone as sleazy and corrupt as Ron Backwood.
Clarence Grigsby
thinking about him singing "The Holy City" gives me goose bumps.
And let's say he wasn't any good. He could always get his ol' pal Cecil
Blackwood to raise money for some singing lessons!
Seriously, JD once said that Bill was a better studio singer than he was
on stage and that he seemed to put out a better effort in the studio.
That's the closest thing I'd ever heard to a negative remark about his
singing and that wasn't really negative, only a statement of fact.
Roy Pauley calls Shaw the best ever. That's a huge statement coming from
someone so knowledgable about male quartets.
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
Doctor Lovable
"Clarence Grigsby" <grigs...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Roy Pauley calls Shaw the best ever. That's a huge statement coming from
> someone so knowledgable about male quartets.
>
Can someone please tell me what Roy Pauley's claim to fame is? I mean, what
makes him qualified to write his "The world stopped in 1953" ..... er ......
ummmmm ... I mean, "In My Opinion" column in the Singing News?
Did he ever sing or play with a group? I had never heard of him until I
started seeing him in the magazine, and I don't know anybody who had ever
heard of him before that. I heard a rumour shortly after he started writing
that column which was that "Roy Pauley" was not a real person. That was
just an alias for somebody "famous" (if there is such a thing in SGM?) to
vent out some opinions without having to pay the consequences. They could
hide behind the name "Roy Pauley" and people would just be angry at Roy.
However, I've since been told that is totally false, and that Mr. Pauley,
(although he is lost somewhere around 1965) does in fact exist! So could
someone please tell me what is his claim to fame?
Thanks,
Doc.
P.S. While I'm at it, whatever happened to Brian "Rush" Sanders? He wrote
a similar "opinion" column in the Singing News ragazine a few years back,
and was the brunt of not a few J.D. body slams! Then he just quietly
disappeared. I figured he either stepped on one too many toes, or got tired
of all the abuse that got heaped on him by JD. I didn't necessarily agree
with everything he said either, but at least he knew the Vietnam war was not
still going on!
--
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but you'll have to drop YOUR PANTS
Rick Sexton
about him!
Brina Sanders now writes for the gospel voice magazine.
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Leslie,James,Larry Moore
talented as a bass singer. On the GOGR he sang with The
Weatherfords,Rosie Rozell & The Ledgends and I`m not sure about
others,he is respectsd by others,I don`t know what degree he has in
music,but if you want to know more about Roy Pauley youmay want to
e-mail the Singing News.
P.S.On page 145 of Happy Rythym-a biography of The Statesmen Quartet--by
David Taylor it states Roy Pauley was with the Statesmen.
James
Bror A. Nilsson, Jr
sang with. He sings on one of the Gaither videos.
Bror Nilsson
Toledo, Ohio
Clarence Grigsby
the way,he said he saw JD at the NQC before JD died. JD hugged him and
thanked him for trying to improve SG.
Roy Pauley may be stuck in a time warp, but he knows a lot about quartet
singing. I prefer his coumns that are informative to the ones that are
combative. Yes,he does exist and can sing some mighty fine bass.
steph...@webtv.net
News and half of the people he talks about I've never heard.I do know he
exists,because he was on one of The Gaither videos.He did do a good job
singing.He just wasn't my type or something.He had what sounded to me
like a opera kind of voice.No kind of emotions or something.I don't know
how else to describe it.I prefer someone like George singing bass!!! God
Bless,Stephen
Clarence Grigsby
inaccurate. Roy was a big time fan of the Talleys and New Journey back
when they were around and they were very progressive. In a recent column
he gave Gaither's tenor David Phelps a rave review. So he does give some
of the more up to date folks a chance.
As for never hearing about most of the groups in the column, that's one
of the reasons I like it. I enjoy learning about the past of SG and
discovering groups I have never heard of.
Clarence Grigsby
that Roy Pauley has not been following the developments in the building
of the Southern Gospel Hall Of Fame , all of whch have been published in
The Singing News. Which brings up a question: Does Roy read SINGING
NEWS?
He also said there are SG Hall members that he HAS NEVER HEARD OF! I've
seen the list of inductees. I HAVE HEARD OF ALL OF THESE PEOPLE AND
READ ABOUT A LOT OF THEM IN ROY'S COLUMN! Has he even seen a list of SG
Hall Of Fame members or is he getting it confused with the GMA Hall of
Fame?
Clarence Grigsby
emphasis, not trying to yell at you folks.