Open Letter From Kenny Bishop
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David Bruce Murray
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> Anyone see the open letter from Kenny Bishop?
I did. It's posted at www.sogospelnews.com for anyone else who's interested
in reading it. It sounds like he's getting into political work in a pretty
big way.
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Rick Ryan
you need ministering TO you get out of the pulpit and receive. My hat's off
to dad, Mark and Kenny. Very encouraging to see in integrity in an industry
that's so lacking in it.
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Paul Slopak Jr.
man. Maybe that is the case now but he was not really totally honest about
his breaking up the group with his sin.
I am not looking to bury Kenny and I am glad to hear that his wife forgave
him and he is now being the husband and father he should have been all
along.
I just think it is deceptive to slant the letter to make people think "Oh
what a wonderful person he is for giving up traveling to tend to his
family". If you did not know "the real reason" for him quitting you wouldn't
know the difference.
Also, he devastated hundreds, maybe even thousands of fans when the news
came out and he quit. I think he owes them an apology and needs to ask their
forgiveness as well.
I know I would be more likely to support his "new" ministry efforts if he
did.
Yaderp
My opinion of course - not trying to make you like it or accept it.
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Yaderp
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Paul Slopak Jr. <pauls...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> man. Maybe that is the case now but he was not really totally honest about
> his breaking up the group with his sin.
> I am not looking to bury Kenny and I am glad to hear that his wife forgave
> him and he is now being the husband and father he should have been all
> along.
> I just think it is deceptive to slant the letter to make people think "Oh
> what a wonderful person he is for giving up traveling to tend to his
> family". If you did not know "the real reason" for him quitting you
wouldn't
> know the difference.
Paul, thank you for your thoughtful response. The letter was a little vague
on why he changed his mind about performing in his friend's concert, and
makes the reader go, "huh?" Were it not for this part, I think you would be
right that the naive fan would get the wrong idea. But all in all, I think
the tone of the letter would leave even the most naive fan wondering what
was NOT being said.
> Also, he devastated hundreds, maybe even thousands of fans when the news
> came out and he quit. I think he owes them an apology and needs to ask
their
> forgiveness as well.
> I know I would be more likely to support his "new" ministry efforts if he
> did.
>
I agree 100%. But when I said the same thing when this whole brouhaha
started, I got blasted for spreading rumors and accused of watching too much
Oprah! ;)
IMO, Kenny should keep his mouth shut until he is ready to be honest about
why he came off the road, and to apologize for the abruptness of his
leaving, and, if appropriate, for the cause of his leaving. He should NOT
expect everyone to forget just because he now writes a letter such as this
one, which completely ignores his accountability and leaves unresolved the
mess that he made. It's like someone causing a bad 20 car pileup on the
highway, but months later, it's all cleaned up now, and therefore the person
responsible can pretend he didn't cause the accident without even
acknowledging what he did. It's unseemly.
I also would like someone to say straight out that Mark Bishop (who is a
columnist for Singing News and is now booking solo appearances) is not to
blame for any of this. Only then will I support him. Otherwise, he looks
guilty by association.
-- David
Paul Slopak Jr.
what happened. I was just hoping for a little contrition and repentance on
his part. We all sin and fall short but this was a major thing to happen not
only to Kenny but he basically ended the ministry of his dad and almost his
brother as well.
All he needed to say was that he committed a sin, etc. and asks everyone's
forgiveness. This sounded like he did nothing wrong and wanted more time
with his family.
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garydw
If he did commit a sin, he only has to confess that to God, not the entire
world. No where did God tell us we must confess to the world our sins.
As Christians we have to Pray for Kenney, and forgive him, and accept what
he told us in his letter.
Stop being a busy body and trying to find out about things that may very
well be personal, and not a matter for public discussion.
"Paul Slopak Jr." <pauls...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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TommyDale
Technically, he DID leave the road to become "more of a family man",
because if he didn't, he wouldn't have his family. Kenny (as did his
dad and brother) did the right thing by disbanding the group. I just
wish the reasons given were more forthcoming and honest, instead of
attempting to parse words. This is somewhat stadard procedure
"Clintonesque" nowadays.
Scott Bouldin
--columnist for Singing News and is now booking solo appearances) is not to
--blame for any of this. Only then will I support him. Otherwise, he looks
--guilty by association.
---- David
I cannot believe what I just read. Absolutely unbelievable!
J. Scott Bouldin
Vice President
Merchants & Farmers Bank
David Ching
> Thanks David - I am not looking for Kenny to go into all the gory details
of
> what happened. I was just hoping for a little contrition and repentance on
> his part. We all sin and fall short but this was a major thing to happen
not
> only to Kenny but he basically ended the ministry of his dad and almost
his
> brother as well.
> All he needed to say was that he committed a sin, etc. and asks everyone's
> forgiveness. This sounded like he did nothing wrong and wanted more time
> with his family.
>
Exactly! I've also said many times that I don't care about the salacious
details, but to take no responsibility for what happened is no way to
ingratiate himself. At least with some people fans. Others, from the
responses in this thread, seem to swallow the story.
Best,
David
David Ching
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> This is somewhat stadard procedure
> "Clintonesque" nowadays.
LOL! While phrasing my post, I typed "bob and weave" but thought better of
it. ;)
-- David
Yaderp
one another" The confessing comes before the praying.
Just my opinion - But God's words.
--
Yaderp
Everyone has a photographic memory.Some just don't have film.
garydw <gar...@directvinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I just wish the reasons given were more forthcoming and honest, instead
> of attempting to parse words. This is somewhat stadard procedure
> "Clintonesque" nowadays.
Yeah, not like Bush at all during the first Harken investigation.
James
abbreviated it quite a bit. If I remember correctly, it left off all
the things he said about emceeing and singing at that concert, etc.
James Hales
Rick Ryan
ministry so he could be ministered to. He doesn't owe you or me or anybody
else any repentence or explanation. You guys really disappoint me. You'll
fry anyone that tries to do the right thing and you'll defend the creeps
that should step down but won't. Give me a break.
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Tim Watson
Kenny should make a great politician, he allready knows how to use
spin. Did you ever read anything so wordy, yet not say anything?
Tim Watson
Kenny should make a great politician, he obviously knows how to use
spin. Have you ever read anything so wordy, yet not say anything!
TommyDale
I don't get your meaning here. Are you implying there is something
political about what I said? I was referring to Bill Clinton's
IMMORAL behavior, then
using "weasel words" by lying his way around it. I don't recall ever
hearing anything immoral about G.W. Bush. At least he has enough
decency about him
to keep his pants zipped.
Tim Priddy
(in message <bf14c408.02080...@posting.google.com>):
Oh my God, you have NO idea. Bushs' offences are all about MONEY.
Get a clue, Bro. Read Doonesbury. All factual!
Regards,
J. Timothy Priddy
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Lead, Ride or Side--All Styles--Educator, Arranger, Sight-Reader
jazz...@hotmail.com
>
> I don't get your meaning here. Are you implying there is something
> political about what I said? I was referring to Bill Clinton's
> IMMORAL behavior, then
> using "weasel words" by lying his way around it. I don't recall ever
> hearing anything immoral about G.W. Bush. At least he has enough
> decency about him
> to keep his pants zipped.
Sorry, I assumed by "Clintonesque" you meant "lying about something
meaningful". Like, you know, against the law.
As far as GW being immoral, well, that will come out in the wash. Look at
how much money he made while his stockholders floundered. Nothing wrong
with that, right?!
I'm sure he's as righteous as his dad.
garydw
Mr Bush lied about his DUI conviction.
He has covered up his own accounting scandels
And even made the comment that a person who is not Judeo Christian cannot be
trusted.
Mr. Busch stole the presidential election with the courts, and he has other
skelitons in his closet..
My point here...is this....we are all human and not one of us is perfect
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TommyDale
Well, as a matter of fact, Clinton WAS impeached for lying to a grand
jury and a judge. As far as G.W.'s selling stock "while his
stockholders floundered", you must not be very familiar with the
story. Bush sold his stock BEFORE it continued to go up, and if he
really had wanted to make money, he would have held it much longer.
This "throw mud and hope some of it sticks" mentality
is getting boring to many of us. Since you are obviously a defender
of Clinton,
do you also believe him (as opposed to Juanita Broadderick) about the
rape charges against him? Do you support abortion? Do you support
socialized medicine? Do you think the government "owes" you a
living? I really don't know how anyone could claim to be a Christian
and actually support Bill Clinton.
jazz...@hotmail.com
>
> Well, as a matter of fact, Clinton WAS impeached for lying to a grand
> jury and a judge.
Yes, that's certainly a fact. He did lie about an affair he had. That's
a matter of public record.
> As far as G.W.'s selling stock "while his
> stockholders floundered", you must not be very familiar with the
> story. Bush sold his stock BEFORE it continued to go up, and if he
> really had wanted to make money, he would have held it much longer.
Since we're pursuing this, I'll dig up the information for you so you have
an informed opinion.
> This "throw mud and hope some of it sticks" mentality
> is getting boring to many of us.
<heehee> This coming from a clinton basher is really funny.
> Since you are obviously a defender
> of Clinton,
Wrong again, I'm simply for applying the same standard to this president
that was applied to the last.
> do you also believe him (as opposed to Juanita Broadderick) about the
> rape charges against him?
I can't make an informed statement about this. Can you? (Are you sure
that's how she spells her name?)
> Do you support abortion? Do you support
> socialized medicine? Do you think the government "owes" you a
> living?
I won't bore you with my answers, because the one that really counts is
coming up.
> I really don't know how anyone could claim to be a Christian
> and actually support Bill Clinton.
(a) Who claimed to be a Christian?
(b) Who claimed they support Bill Clinton?
Yaderp
"Open Letter" business and asks us to overlook his sins and accept his limp
excuse. No, you're wrong, if he does not deserve being asked to repent and
be forthcoming then he should stay out of the public eye and stop asking us
to accept his explanations. Why should he get all the consideration and we
none? He, after all, is the one who committed the sin.
My opinion, of course - and I wouldn't try to force it upon anyone.
--
Yaderp
Everyone has a photographic memory.Some just don't have film.
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>
> Since we're pursuing this, I'll dig up the information for you so you have
> an informed opinion.
As promised:
January 1990: Bahrain awards exclusive offshore drilling rights to Harken
Oil. This is a surprise as Harken is in very shaky financial condition,
has never drilled outside of Texas, Louisiana and Oklahoma and had never
drilled undersea at all. The Bass brothers are brought in by Harken for
sufficient equity to proceed with the effort. Harken's stock price
increases from $4.50 to $5.50.
George W. Bush sells two-thirds of his Harken Energy stock at the top of
the market for $850,000, a 200% profit, but makes no report to the SEC
until March 1991. Bush Jr. says later the SEC misplaced the report. An SEC
representative responds: "nobody ever found the 'lost' filing." One week
after Bush's sale, Harken reports an earnings plunge. Harken stock falls
more than 60%. Bush uses most of the proceeds to pay off the bank loan he
had taken a year earlier to finance his portion of the Texas Rangers deal.
August 1990: Saddam Hussein invades Kuwait. Harken's stock price drops
substantially. Two months after Bush sells his stock, Harken posts losses
for the 2nd quarter of well over $20 million and is shares fall another 24
%, by year end Harken is trading at $1.25. Bush has insisted that he did
not know about the firm's mounting losses and that his stock sell-off was
approved by Harken's general counsel.
------
Now, that having been said, the SEC (loaded with daddy Bush
appointees) investigated GWB and elected not to file charges. Now, this
can hardly compare to the millions and millions of dollars that went to
pay for the investigation of a certain past president without any charges
being filed, but I'll bet the legal standard to which you hold the two
isn't the same.
In his essay, "Politics and the English Language," George Orwell
wrote: "The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. Political
language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable."
Bush ran on the assertion that he was going to bring respectability back
to the office. I'm not holding my breath.
Yaderp
is pretty hypocritical for someone claiming to be a Christian. Aren't we all
supposed to be held to a different standard other than our earthly heritage?
2 Cor 10
--
Yaderp
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> To judge our president's righteousness by the standard of his earthly father
> is pretty hypocritical for someone claiming to be a Christian. Aren't we all
> supposed to be held to a different standard other than our earthly heritage?
You're absolutely right. Frankly, I feel that you can look at Jr.'s
record and tell that the little fella really doesn't give a tinker's ass
about who he screwed to make his millions.
The only successful business venture that Jr. was involved with came at
the expense of the Texas taxpayers and was the result of massive
government intervention and subsidies.
Yaderp
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Yaderp
Everyone has a photographic memory.Some just don't have film.
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> Guess I was wrong about one statement in my post, anyway.
Here, judge for yourself:
http://www.bushnews.com/family.htm
Pick your favorite family member.
TommyDale
<Snipped>
> Mr. Busch stole the presidential election with the courts, and he has other
> skelitons in his closet..
>
> My point here...is this....we are all human and not one of us is perfect
What left-wing newspaper or network are you following? The courts
overruled
the attempted theft of Florida by the Florida Supreme Court. The
election was won on electoral vote count, fairly and squarely,
according to the Constitution.
By the way, the liberals' argument that "people were denied their
right to vote" doesn't hold water -- not one person can be named as
having their right to vote denied. Liberals/Democrats would love to
rewrite history.
Susan Wood
hasn't compared it to all the Clinton Whitewater escapades(both Clintons
included) and all the other business dealings they were up to......and
why was Chelsea Clintons drunken escapades in England not front page
news like the Bush girls?????
jazz...@hotmail.com
>
> What left-wing newspaper or network are you following? The courts
> overruled
> the attempted theft of Florida by the Florida Supreme Court.
Yes, it was so obvious to the justices that they ruled 5-4. Funny that it
wasn't so clear-cut to them as it seems to be to you.
This much is certain: Bush's mandate is shaky at best.
> The
> election was won on electoral vote count, fairly and squarely,
> according to the Constitution.
This much is true.
> By the way, the liberals' argument that "people were denied their
> right to vote" doesn't hold water -- not one person can be named as
> having their right to vote denied. Liberals/Democrats would love to
> rewrite history.
Try this on for size.
Would you consider it fair and impartial if mechanisms for counting
votes in one district were demonstrably less accurate than those in
another?
What if 1% of the votes in all the districts voting for a particular
candidate were lost due to inefficiencies in the vote counting
process? Would that be fair and impartial? Would that qualify as
disenfranchisement?
(The numbers here are not real world, I'm trying to illustrate a point.)
In any event, you may disagree as you wish, this is a poor forum for
airing such dirty laundry. Besides, we should be building bomb shelters
in our backyards...
jazz...@hotmail.com
definitely dump $30 million into investigating Bush's Harken dealings
before deciding whether or not to drop it.
I don't know anything about Ms. Clinton's escapades in England. Is she
underaged? Arrested? Musta missed that. Not that it really matters, who
gives a rat's behind about the children of the President?
Lost in all this was the point that I was trying to make initially.
"Clintonesque" speech is a cute euphimism. Also cute is the fact that
people are so quick to forget Bush Sr.'s lying to congress about
Iran-Contra, and quick to overlook Bush Jr.'s past and present. (Or the
lies told by so many other politicians past and present.)
That was my point, not to defend Clinton (whom I think did a disservice to
the office).
Yaderp
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Who is from Tennessee and lives down the road from Good old Al
Everyone has a photographic memory.Some just don't have film.
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garydw
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garydw
was not front page.
As to Whitewater, Clinton was cleared.
The real problem here is the fact that Clinton had a women other than his
wife interested in him.
George has noting, but a STOLEN election.
and corruption with his Brother.
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garydw
And at the rate George is going there may never be another presidential
election. He is setting him self up to be the one and only ruler of the USA>
And what about his comments about people that are not judeo christinas?
ARe you telling me that he represents Jews? Jehovas Witnesses? Mormons?
Atheist?
No, he represents him self and the big oil that funded his campaign.
You called me a liberal, but you do not know me, I am a Christian and I have
the ablity to see what happened...I was there, I watched it happen. And if
Clintion could run again I would vote for him.
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garydw
No one ,Not one single person knows how he would have handled the events of
9/11
And we will never know, so do not guess, you are not Mr. Gore, and you do
not know his thoughts
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THE Old Man
about TRUMPET OF THE LORD!
Ooops.
Never mind.
dd
THE Old Man
12.
>
can't be all bad?
And, he did plow his dad's mules?
Ooops.
Yaderp
compelled to have the public accept his story. If he's going to patronize
us - we have a right to hear the truth not his cockemamey story.
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Yaderp
That's why.
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Carole
American Politics.
Carole(Aust)news:3d4b1...@nopics.sjc...
TommyDale
> No, the Supreme Court decided the election, Not the people.
I really don't know where you get this idea that anyone "stole" the
election, or that the Supreme Court decided the election. The Gore
campaign tried to change the outcome by selectively recounting in the
counties where they thought they would do better. They miscalculated.
The state supreme court ruled in the Gore campaign favor, AGAINST the
established law of their own state constitution. The federal Supreme
Court merely overturned the unconstitutional ruling by the idiots in
Florida. Bush won the electoral vote, Gore won the popular vote. Of
course, the Republicans didn't have the extra millions of illegal
aliens and imprisoned felons to vote for them. And, the Gore campaign
did their best to get the military votes eliminated, since most
military people DETESTED Clinton/Gore.
AFTER ALL THE RECOUNTS, BUSH STILL WON FLORIDA!!!
garydw
Just like his Homeland Security Plan, and his tax cut that we still had to
pay back.
Bush, like his dad, his full of lies, and could care less about anyone that
is not a CEO, or very rich.
Working class people like me are the last thing he cares about.
Give a break to the rich guy, but don't worry about Seniors, or working
class.
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garydw
SO therefore it is a mute point.
Get off Al's back.
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garydw
lied to you.
Sounds very familiar.
This is not a very Christian attitude.
We are not his judge, and for me and all TRUE Christians, I am satisfied
with his letter.
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Just Allan
<gar...@directvinternet.com> wrote:
>You called me a liberal, but you do not know me, I am a Christian and I have
>the ablity to see what happened...I was there, I watched it happen. And if
>Clintion could run again I would vote for him.
As many here know, I'm in Australia - and I'm going to share my views
on Bush/Clintion. Some may find it interesting.
I don't know what "group" either Clinton or Bush belong to. I also
know nothing of their history, except that Clinton is a lawyer.
(Who'd ever vote for a lawyer!?) Neither did I know the
occupation/past/reputation of either man prior to them becoming
president.
The antics or your previous president - and the fact that he was
nearly ousted, then heartily patted on the back soon afterwards - made
America look foolish to the world looking on. But there's a change in
the air. The Bush government is winning people's respect. While he
isn't as eloquent as some would like, most of his decisions seem
balanced, well thought through and mostly based in fairness & reality.
I watched Sep 11 on Australian TV as it happened. Working on the
computer, with the late night news on TV behind me. I saw it live,
just as most of you did. All normal programming was removed from our
screens for many days. As I watched Bush - it was obvious he hurt
deeply. It was not a put-on, he actually felt the pain. Clinton
could never muster such sincerity.
Time may prove otherwise, but for the most part Bush seems to be doing
his job for your country. Clinton never seemed to be there for
anything but the pizza, a bit of skirt and self-deification.
I'm sure he has his faults, but I wish Australia could have such a
leader as George Bush - instead of the weak, spineless choice of
leaders we have.
Be thankful!
Allan.
David Bruce Murray
"Just Allan" <just...@COLDhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> As many here know, I'm in Australia - and I'm going to share my views
> on Bush/Clintion. Some may find it interesting.
That was interesting, and thanks for updating, and marking the subject "OT."
It would be interesting if we could do a "what if" and see how many of the
same people would swap sides on the Gore/Bush vote counting process if the
outcome had been in favor of Gore. Both sides had the right to work every
possible angle with so much at stake, both legally and in the court of
public opinion, and they did JUST that. It's funny to hear one tactic being
criticized when the other side was doing the exact same thing. Bush didn't
want certain counties re-counted, but he wanted the military vote
re-examined. Gore was using the same technique, wanting certain counties
re-counted, but not the military. Gore could have won with more time
possibly, but Bush won in the time that the Supreme Court allowed. It's 2
years later, and no amount of whining is going to change that now.
I voted for Bush. I'm glad he's our president now. I don't like some of the
stuff he's done, caving in on some issues, but anything is better than
Clinton. By the same token, I'd rather have had Gore in office on September
11 than Bill Clinton. Clinton was and continues to be a disgrace to the
highest office in the land. I don't agree with all of Gore's policies,
either, but he has the basic appearance of integrity that is required for a
president of the US.
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--- Making hay while the sun shines ---
Paul Slopak Jr.
on the inside. They are unfortunately not rumors. Don't be so naive.
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Hank Gillette
stormtr...@yahoo.com (TommyDale) wrote:
> I was referring to Bill Clinton's IMMORAL behavior, then
> using "weasel words" by lying his way around it. I don't recall ever
> hearing anything immoral about G.W. Bush.
You consider driving while intoxicated moral? For that matter, he tried
to get into a fight with his father while drunk, so he broke the fourth
commandment.
Nothing is more pointless than looking to politicians for morality (or
trying to prove that one is more "moral" than another).
--
Hank Gillette
The New & Improved Dr. Lovable
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> I did. It's posted at www.sogospelnews.com for anyone else who's
interested
> in reading it. It sounds like he's getting into political work in a pretty
> big way.
>
According to the August Singing News, (page87) "the Bishops with Kenny
Bishop" will be appearing at the Eddie Crook Reunion at NQC on Sat. Sept. 14
at noon. Kenny's "open letter" didn't address this event so I wonder if he
will be there? I'm sure the fan reaction would be quite positive toward him
and the group even though I'm sure most people are familiar with the
(alleged) reason for the Bishops disbanding. Is anyone planning to attend
this and what are your thoughts on Kenny performing for a one-shot deal like
this?
There look to be some other interesting combo's there too. DMB with McRae
Dove, the Perry's with Randy Perry, and the Wilburns with Jonathon Wilburn
and Tony Gore. Also the Mid South Boys! I heard they are getting back
together again .... any truth to that?
Doc
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but you'll have to drop YOURPANTS
THE Old Man
to me to be nothing more than a rumor or GOSSIP.
Saying that it came from someone (unnamed source? - sounds like a news
service!) on the inside with no further confirmation is ... well ... what
would you think?
garydw
And when the info in the Rumors was made public , it then became Gossip.
And we all know that we should not spread Gossip.
So Kenny has not told you that the rumors are true, and any other party
directly involved has not told you they are true...so that is Gossip. That
is a Sin.
Leave Kenny alone, until he speaks other wise, be a true Christian.
"Paul Slopak Jr." <pauls...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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Just Allan
a couple of decades ago?
Allan.
TommyDale
Uh...BIG difference here! George W. admits to driving under the
influence when he was younger. Hed admitted to his mistake, GAVE HIS
HEART TO THE LORD and has stopped drinking. Bill Clinton, on the
other hand, has offered no remorse for his sexual escapades, makes
excuses by saying "it wasn't really sex" and slaps every sincere
Christian in the face with his mockery of the Bible. I have NEVER
heard Bill Clinton claim that he has been "born again", or offer a
prayer in public. Instead, we saw him many times failing to even bow
his head, showing total disrespect to his Heavenly Father.
"More moral"? George W. and Laura Bush have more moral capacity in
their little fingernails than Bill and Hillary Clinton combined.
KJCSmith1
that they didn't like in the way he ran the country....oh wait...He created the
world and people do find things that they don't like and didn't like how He
handled things in the Bible.......No matter who is president there will never
be 100% agreement on anyone or anything.......because NO one is perfect
Jim Ferguson
God" that George Bush is in the White House and not goober Gore. Al would
now be lecturing the Taliban about their behaviour and telling them that he
understands that their actions were due to the environment and mis-treatment
by the well off. I think the results of the election were "Divinely
Inspired."
TommyDale <stormtr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hank Gillette
> Uh...BIG difference here! George W. admits to driving under the
> influence when he was younger. Hed admitted to his mistake, GAVE HIS
> HEART TO THE LORD and has stopped drinking. Bill Clinton, on the
> other hand, has offered no remorse for his sexual escapades, makes
> excuses by saying "it wasn't really sex" and slaps every sincere
> Christian in the face with his mockery of the Bible.
Well, you haven't been paying attention, because Clinton offered remorse
for what he did. He even said that he "had sinned". Whether he was
sincere, I don't know, but he did say it. Bush has basically said that
when he was young he did "stupid things". "GIVING HIS HEART TO THE LORD"
didn't stop him from calling a reporter "an asshole" during the
campaign. How Christlike.
He still hasn't given a coherent account of his stock dealings or
accepting a multi-million dollar gift while governor from a man who
later benefited by being allowed to manage money for the state of Texas.
It's amusing (and a little sad) that if a politician is conservative and
doesn't actually get caught committing adultery, he pretty much gets a
free ride from conservative Christians on anything else he does, no
matter how sleazy.
--
Hank Gillette
M. Elden Gaines
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This is for certain, as when God ruled theocratically over the nation of
Israel, they rebelled while in His very presence. He clothed them, fed them,
personally led them every day, protected them from all enemies. They were in
a veritable paradise (although walking through a desert), yet were never
satisfied.
Elden
garydw
And you have no idea what AL would or would not have done....
And George has not done all that great....
"Jim Ferguson" <jwferg...@flash.net> wrote in message
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Bolster
"garydw" <gar...@directvinternet.com> wrote
> "Jim Ferguson" <jwferg...@flash.net> wrote
> > My only and final word on this subject : I wake up every
> > morning and "Thank God" that George Bush is in the
>> hite House and not goober Gore
> God is not in the business of politics.
Moses. Saul. David. Solomon. Etc.
Scott Bouldin
as advertised.
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Vice President
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TommyDale
dead 12 year old boy in his bed.
David Stuart
Re: Open Letter From Kenny Bishop
Group: alt.music.gospel.southern Date: Fri, Aug 2, 2002, 4:48pm (EDT-1)
From: Yad...@go.com (Yaderp)
12.
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Yaderp
I Will give you an AMEN to that one!!!
David
Yaderp
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Yaderp
Everyone has a photographic memory.Some just don't have film.
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Yaderp
from J. Jackson, who himself has been proven to be a philanderer. Guess that
makes him better qualified to counsel on the subject, huh?
--
Yaderp
Everyone has a photographic memory.Some just don't have film.
TommyDale <stormtr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yaderp
then go read Romans Chapter 13:1-8. Sheesh - how simple
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Yaderp
Everyone has a photographic memory.Some just don't have film.
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Yaderp
Christian who just happens to be the President of the United States. Do you
know of an adultery in George's past that we don't. Perhaps you should be
more forthcoming and not hide behind innuendo and suggestion. Come right out
and make your accusation - er - should I say cast your first stone -
brother.
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Yaderp
Everyone has a photographic memory.Some just don't have film.
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garydw
and turned them into oil fields and put the money in his own back pocket.
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Yaderp
Are you totally blind? If he didn't want to explain the situation he should
have kept his mouth shut.
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Yaderp
Everyone has a photographic memory.Some just don't have film.
garydw <gar...@directvinternet.com> wrote in message
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> And one last thing I might add to this.
>
> As each of you kick Kenney, and push gossip....I will ask the same thing
> that Jesus did once....
>
> Let he who is without sin cast the first stone......
>
>
> He then asked the women, "Women where are thy accusers?" , then added, "Go
> and Sin No More"
>
> No requirment of public confession of anything, and the women never
admitted
> as to doing anything wrong.
>
>
> "TommyDale" <stormtr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bf14c408.0208...@posting.google.com...
> > "garydw" <gar...@directvinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:<3d53a...@nopics.sjc>...
> > > No, no one here knows anything other than what Kenny has said.
Anything
> else
> > > is gossip.
> >
> > How do you know this for a fact? I suspect there are several people
> > lurking here who could name names, or give specifics. The fact that
> > no one has done this shows respect for the family.
> >
> > > Kenny does not have to explain any of his actions to any one in this
> group.
> > > And to be honest I am sick of so called Christians that are only
> interested
> > > in the personal lives of others.
> >
> > Some Southern Gospel fans who have spent countless hard-earned dollars
> > supporting the various artists deserve an apology. I don't think
> > anyone wants to know the dirty details. But sweeping the truth under
> > the rug doesn't do anyone any good, especially the transgressor.
> >
> >
> > > Kenny has made his choice, and he has chosen what to tell us, that is
> all.
> >
> > True, but he will never regain respect from many fans.
> >
> > > Now be true Christians and get off his back. Or maybe the problem is
> this,
> > > Kenney is the Christian and the rest of you are just trying to be.
> >
> > A true Christian forgives. A true Christian asks for forgiveness. I
> > find your last line laughable.
>
>
Just Allan
<hankgi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Heaping riches to himself (if he does that is - I don't know), would
>> be deterimental mainly to himself. Adultery destroys families.
>>
>That's one way of looking at it. Another way is that adultery is mainly
>a sin against one person. Getting rich through unethical means is
>stealing from a lot of people.
Heh - see first statement above... : )
Allan.
garydw
with the women, when everyone was about to stone her.
"Paul Slopak Jr." <pauls...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Well then Gary get the stinkin' rocks out of your hand.
>
> You are the "one true Christian" on this group according to you. Stop
> throwing stones at the rest of us "lesser Christians" to your "true
> Christian" level.
David Ching
mouth, most of us want an apology for leaving the scene abruptly:
> > > Some Southern Gospel fans who have spent countless hard-earned dollars
> > > supporting the various artists deserve an apology. I don't think
> > > anyone wants to know the dirty details.
You say Kenny can say whatever he wants and not say whatever he wants:
> > > > Kenny does not have to explain any of his actions to any one in this
> > > > group.
Well, that is a difference of opinion that isn't going to be resolved any
time soon. So let's stop trying, shall we? In the meantime, please stop
calling us "non-true Christians" and gossipers. We are just as "true"
Christians as anyone; and if we weren't, it's really not your place to say
so. Nor are we gossipers - how many times do we have to say
> > > I don't think anyone wants to know the dirty details.
for you to understand that?
Have a good weekend,
David
"garydw" <gar...@directvinternet.com> wrote in message
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Paul Slopak Jr.
Talking to Gary:
"You can't teach dumb".
Enough said on this topic as far as I am concerned.
I am outta here on this one.
"garydw" <gar...@directvinternet.com> wrote in message
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garydw
garydw
Why does there have to be more? Do you have and can you produce for us any
proof, verifiable, tangible proof that what Kenney stated in his letter was
a lie?
If so, then produce it, if not, then what Kenney said is all there is.
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garydw
"Paul Slopak Jr." <pauls...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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Susan Wood
Regarding Kenny Bishop, David had the key word-abruptly. Phil Cross
will be disbanding toward the end of the year and we all read why. The
Bishops, who had dates scheduled and were very popular, suddenly and
(key word here) abruptly quit, disband and are gone...disappeared from
sight...I myself, held concert tickets where they were supposed to be
and they didn't show...you are left sayin' "Wha happened"?????? (I left
the 't' off on purpose)
Paul Slopak Jr.
Gary - who is Kenney?
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David Ching
"Susan Wood" <Stud...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Yes Susan, the Poet Voices are retiring in the best way, giving their fans a
chance to say goodbye and to adjust. If the rumors about the Bishops are
true, then perhaps they didn't have the luxuary of stretching their ending
out, but their abrupt departure was surely not classy or optimal.
BTW, did you ever get your money back for the concert tickets? Did you even
know the concert had been cancelled before you got there? If not, then I
think it would be a classy thing if Mark Bishop honored those tickets at his
solo concerts, as a good will gesture from the family.
-- David
TommyDale
I also held ticket for the Bishops, along with several other
performers, including Kirk Talley, Phil Cross & Poet Voices, & The
Booth Brothers. When the Bishops failed to show, The Ruppes filled
in. I would much rather hear The Ruppes anyway, so I thought it was
an added bonus!
David Ching
> I also held ticket for the Bishops, along with several other
> performers, including Kirk Talley, Phil Cross & Poet Voices, & The
> Booth Brothers. When the Bishops failed to show, The Ruppes filled
> in. I would much rather hear The Ruppes anyway, so I thought it was
> an added bonus!
Well... they are a whole lot better looking! ;) If it was a concert
featuring many marquee groups like that one, then the failure of any one of
them to show isn't as bad as if the missing group was THE featured
performer - provided the promoters do a good job of finding a replacement so
the audience thinks they still got their money's worth.
-- David
TommyDale
In this particular case, the promoter told me on the phone that "We
still expect that things may change, and they may show up after all".
Not true.
I agree -- The Ruppes are much better looking! Not to mention that
they sound like angels...
garydw
"Paul Slopak Jr." <pauls...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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Susan Wood
cancelled...actually they were one of four groups supposed to be
there..the Easters, Crabb Family and Dove Brothers were all there so all
was not lost..but...I wanted to see the Bishops because they didn't come
to West Texas often....
David Ching
That reminds me of going to Disneyland when I was a kid to find out they had
picked that day to close the Matterhorn, which was the only cool
rollercoaster at the time. :-( Well, Disney didn't refund any of the
ticket price either! Well, my folks got me a balloon and I was happy
again.... ;)
-- David
teacherl...@gmail.com
> jazz...@hotmail.com wrote in message news:<aicuoq$jbl$1...@roundup.shout.net>...
> > TommyDale <stormtr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't get your meaning here. Are you implying there is something
> > > political about what I said? I was referring to Bill Clinton's
> > > using "weasel words" by lying his way around it. I don't recall ever
> > > decency about him
> > > to keep his pants zipped.
> >
> > Sorry, I assumed by "Clintonesque" you meant "lying about something
> > meaningful". Like, you know, against the law.
> >
> > As far as GW being immoral, well, that will come out in the wash. Look at
> > how much money he made while his stockholders floundered. Nothing wrong
> > with that, right?!
> >
> > I'm sure he's as righteous as his dad.
>
> Well, as a matter of fact, Clinton WAS impeached for lying to a grand
> jury and a judge. As far as G.W.'s selling stock "while his
> stockholders floundered", you must not be very familiar with the
> story. Bush sold his stock BEFORE it continued to go up, and if he
> really had wanted to make money, he would have held it much longer.
> This "throw mud and hope some of it sticks" mentality
> is getting boring to many of us. Since you are obviously a defender
> of Clinton,
> do you also believe him (as opposed to Juanita Broadderick) about the
> rape charges against him? Do you support abortion? Do you support
> socialized medicine? Do you think the government "owes" you a
> living? I really don't know how anyone could claim to be a Christian
> and actually support Bill Clinton.
Just a little word....impeachment is a process not a verdict. I find it amazing that people remember the "impeachment" but forget the verdict.....NOT guilty. While I actually like H.W. Bush he has quite an interesting history as a CIA agent and then the director a "cloud of suspicion" hung over his life political and otherwise to include the JFK murder, etc. This is verifiable I am not a grassy knoll kind of guy.
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pgtu...@gmail.com
> Anyone see the open letter from Kenny Bishop?
i have not nor do i want to read the "open letter".. im sad, im angry. im disappointed.. Kenny is just one more in the long list turning away from God and HIS WORD... you can call any building a Church.. but when its "preaching" sin /acceptance its MANS church.. NOT ordained by GOD Almighty.. i love the soul of the sinner and will always keep them in my prayers but to "accept" this lifestyle is going against Gods word and to do so would be a Sin against my Heavenly Father.. the world has gone crazy..