Underrated Singers & Musicians
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
name some I believe to be underrated-some may belong on this list, but I
didn`t name them because I either have not heard those singers/musicians
or they were left off by mistake,Please add your selections to the list.
Bass:
1; Mike Holcomb
2; Eric Bennett
3; Gene McDonald (you see Gene on the Gaither Videos,but I don`t hear as
much talk about him as lesser basses)
Baritones:
1. Mark Lowry (I know he gets recognition for his comedy,but listen to
his voice)
2. Glen Allred(over 50yrs.of expierence with a great voice )
Lead:
1.Jimmy Wesson (a terriffic lead ,for many yrs.,now singing tenor for
The Chuck Wagon Gang)
2, Arthur Rice (former Kingsmen bass player & singer,still doing a great
job for The Kingdom Heirs)
3, Brian Lester(a real good singer)
4,Brian Hutson(I think maybe why he isn`t noticed more is that people
compare him to Big Jim)
Tenors:
1.Jerry Martin(with a good voice he deserves more credit)
Pianist:
1.Derrell Stewart
2.Tim Parton(both men deserve more atten.)
Female Singers:
1. Mary Jane Carter
2.Candy Pfeifer
3. Karen Apple(what a voice)
Doctor Lovable
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,Please add your selections to the list.
Bass:
Jeff Chapman of the Anchormen is one of the most underrated basses out
there. He's got natural resonance to his voice and excellent ability to
solo and has been developing nicely for several years. Unfortunately, June
30 was his last date with the Anchormen. I read on the web that he has gone
with Ron Blackwood in Pigeon Forge, TN.
Baritones:
I always thought Parker Jonathon suffered from the same problem you say that
Brian Hutson does. People spend too much time trying to compare his emcee
work with Hamill's and never give him enough credit for who he is on his own
merits. He's been with the Kingsmen for 10 years now doing a great job
singing baritone and is one of the best frontmen in the business IMHO. His
style is totally different than Hamill's so I can never see how or why
people try to compare the two, except that Hamill was such a large
figurehead for the Kingsmen for so long. Night after Night, PJ is one of
the most solid people on the stage.
Tenors:
1.Jerry Martin(with a good voice he deserves more credit)
Absolutely!!! He has brought the Kingsmen back up to being in the top line
quartets again. Not trying to compare him to anybody, but he's the best
tenor they've had since Ernie Phillips and one of the best new tenors to hit
the major circuit in a few years.
Doc
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Brian Hutson. He is probably a great guy but if you really listen to him, you
will hear a lot of pitch problems.
David Murray (SG Fan)
Leslie,James,Larry Moore wrote in message
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>>Bass:
2; Eric Bennett
3; Gene McDonald (you see Gene on the Gaither Videos,but I don`t hear as
much talk about him as lesser basses)<<
To this list I would add Harold Gilley. It's a shame his group Southern Gold
didn't get going. I wish a major group would add him to their roster.
>>Lead:
4,Brian Hutson(I think maybe why he isn`t noticed more is that people
compare him to Big Jim)<<
Brian doesn't cut up like Big Jim, but he has about twice the voice. The
reason he goes unnoticed is because his sound isn't particularly
distinctive. He just does an excellent job.
>>Tenors:
1.Jerry Martin(with a good voice he deserves more credit)<<
You've been talking to Doc, I see. He's another Kingsmen junkie. :o)
Another first rate tenor you don't hear mentioned often is Wally Nelms with
The Statesmen. In fact, you have to hear him downplayed to Rosie Rosell
every time they sing, which is something I wish Hovie could get past. We all
know he's not Rosie, but he's still a fine tenor especially considering that
many tenors lose their range by the time they are 30.
>>Pianist:
1.Derrell Stewart
2.Tim Parton(both men deserve more atten.)<<
Stewart is a show off, which is fine with me because he has the chops to
back it up. I think he already has significant recognition. For years, he
was the only real reason to see The Florida Boys. It's just that Anthony
Burger is an even bigger show off and has faster chops to back it up, so he
gets to reign as piano king in SG. Roger Bennet is just the opposite. With
him it's more a case of finesse and having George Younce brag on him for
years, but I'd say Roger is somewhat over-rated since he seems to be the
default choice among fans when Burger isn't eligible. There are several
other pianists who surpass Roger in terms of speed, showmanship, and even in
his specialty, finesse.
Stan Whitmire and Jerry Kelso are both better than Roger and therefore
under-rated, IMO. If you play piano, compare the print versions of "Wait
'Til You See Me In My New Home" by Roger (from "Heavenly Highway Hymns"/pub.
Homeland) and Stan (from "Old Time Gospel Piano"/pub. Green Hill). You'll
see exactly what I mean. Kelso is fun to watch, and he has some great licks.
Tim Parton never blew me away, although I think he's certainly a very
capable pianist. I don't think he's in the same league as Kelso, Whitmire,
Burger, or even Bennett. Andrew Ishee is very good, but he seems to be
getting some credit when great piano players are discussed, so I wouldn't
say he's underrated. Jeff Stice and Garry Jones have the jazz thing going on
which is intellectually demanding, and their rating among fans is about
correct by my estimation, though perhaps not for the same reason.
>>Female Singers:
1. Mary Jane Carter
2.Candy Pfeifer
3. Karen Apple(what a voice)<<
Candy Christmas is remarkable, and seldom gets mentioned.
David Bruce Murray / dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net
http://www.rfci.net/dbmurray
http://www.musicscribe.com
Making hay while the sun shines!
David Murray (SG Fan)
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>Bass:
>
>Jeff Chapman of the Anchormen is one of the most underrated basses out
>there.
I've never seen the Anchormen. Aren't they known for changing personel about
as often as David Hill changes groups?
>Tenors:
>1.Jerry Martin(with a good voice he deserves more credit)
>
>Absolutely!!! He has brought the Kingsmen back up to being in the top line
>quartets again. Not trying to compare him to anybody, but he's the best
>tenor they've had since Ernie Phillips and one of the best new tenors to
hit
>the major circuit in a few years.
I agree with you about Martin, although I never was all that crazy about
Phillips. He was a bit too piercing for me. Jerry Martin is all class,
though, and smooth with his expressions. He's first rate.
David Murray (SG Fan)
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Are you sure you didn't just catch him on a bad night? I usually notice
stuff like that, but I haven't ever noticed it with Brian in the 5 or 6
times I've seen them.
Doctor Lovable
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>
>
> I've never seen the Anchormen. Aren't they known for changing personel
about
> as often as David Hill changes groups?
>
Yep. It used to be that you could've seen the Anchormen and it wouldn't
have mattered, because 6 months later they'd have been a totally different
group. The past few years they've been a bit more stable. I think Jeff
Chapman had been there for 10 years and most of the other guys had been
there for several years together too. I really like the tenor (his name
escapes me right now) too. He has a sort of Brian Free sound to his voice.
They always have managed to put together a high-energy, quality sound though
no matter who was there. Ironically, David Hill was with them .........
twice I believe! Maybe that's where he aquired his "stick-with-it"
mannerisms????
Doc
KJCSmith1
>
>
>Bass:
Eric Winston - Eric is with Cecil Blackwoods group and has a temendous voice!!
Eric was taught by J.D. Sumner.
Lead:
Rick Price - Rick is also with Cecil's group. Okay now with this one, Rick
would tell people that you can't go by what I say about him because I am biased
(okay, so I am)...but Rick not only has a great voice but also a very good
songwriting ability.
Baritone:
Mark Lowry - People think of Mark as just being funny and that is the only
thing they look at. There is alot more to Mark than just being funny.
Outside the Loop
consistently
"not on it."
Clarence Grigsby
and an excellent range. And yes, I have seen him live several times.
I think one problem people have is that the Kingsmen went from a blood
and guts, three chords and a cloud of dust group to a smoother more
harmonious(is that a word? LOL) sound. Personally I liked both styles.
Outside the Loop
description.
CJB
little too thin to be the Kingsmen's lead singer.
CJB
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CJB
CJB
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CJB
my short fuse can handle. That has to be the most asinine statement ever
made on this newsgroup! Yes, Jim Hamill was a character, but when he got to
singing, no one could touch him. He could do amazing things, and, even
better, he knew what he couldn't do. That's when he'd call Arthur Rice or
Tim Surrett out.
Maybe you need to go back and listen to some songs like "The Lost Sheep" (my
personal, all time Hamill favorite) or "He'll Be to You." He could go from
he "heaviest" songs around to things like "Gospel Music" ("there ain't a
lotta polish...") and "Excuses." and sell them both. Additionally, the
Quartet never sounded fuller than when he was singing. Go back to the live
version of "He's All I Need." Here, Jim's certainly not the Hamill of old,
but listen as they repeat the chorus. On the first ending, Surrett is
singing. Now, Surrett is a good singer, but thin like Hudson. Jim comes
up, gives a testimony, repeats the chorus, and absolutely polishes the
ending off. If you listen to both endings, back to back, the sound is
totally different. Jim filled out the Kingsmen sound. He counterbalanced
the thinner, nasal tone of some of the other guys.
I miss him terribly. I'd love to hear him with Jerry Martin.
CJB
(P.S. I know this rant sounds memmerish, but I honestly never slept on the
Kingsmen's bus.)
(P.P.S I just got my CD for the contest. Thanks)
"David Murray (SG Fan)"
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>
> Leslie,James,Larry Moore wrote in message
> <4889-395...@storefull-241.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
> >>Bass:
> 2; Eric Bennett
> 3; Gene McDonald (you see Gene on the Gaither Videos,but I don`t hear as
> much talk about him as lesser basses)<<
>
> To this list I would add Harold Gilley. It's a shame his group Southern
Gold
> didn't get going. I wish a major group would add him to their roster.
>
> >>Lead:
> 4,Brian Hutson(I think maybe why he isn`t noticed more is that people
> compare him to Big Jim)<<
>
> Brian doesn't cut up like Big Jim, but he has about twice the voice. The
> reason he goes unnoticed is because his sound isn't particularly
> distinctive. He just does an excellent job.
>
> >>Tenors:
> 1.Jerry Martin(with a good voice he deserves more credit)<<
>
David Murray (SG Fan)
CJB <BELLE...@inetone.net> wrote in message
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> To hear anyone say that Bryan Hudson is better than Jim Hamill is more
than
> my short fuse can handle. That has to be the most asinine statement ever
> made on this newsgroup
What can I say? I'm partial to polish. I've always preferred people like
Glenn Payne (who could also "let 'er rip, but was more selective about it)
to Jim Hamill when it came down to the recorded song, although I always felt
Jim was undoubtably the most fun to watch.
After reading your post, I'd say Brian Hutson definitely belongs on a list
of under-rated lead singers. :o)
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CJB
CJB
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I could not believe or understand why Brian was ever asked to be a member. The
"polish" is NOT there! I am a stickler on being polished and having poise on
stage, and that is something that i have not seen out of Bryan. I would
encourage him to watch tapes of Hamil and ask Parker....Parker is great on
stage. I disagree with the statement on Tim Surrett. I think Tim is an
incredible singer with MUCH professionalism!
:-)
David Murray (SG Fan)
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though
> no matter who was there. Ironically, David Hill was with them .........
> twice I believe! Maybe that's where he aquired his "stick-with-it"
> mannerisms????
You know, the other day I was looking thru some tapes and saw a picture of
The Singing Americans right before they broke up. Guess who was in the
group? David Hill. I never knew he was with them.
It's uncanny how many groups that cat has sung with. The tape with the photo
is called _Good Ol' Gospel_ from 1994. It's a various artist tribute to
Mosie Lister, produced by J D Sumner. The line up is the same as their _Live
In Chicago_ recording from 1993, except they have a different lead singer,
piano player, and bass player. Not bad for them to only change three out of
seven guys between recordings. But then Hill came along, and evidently
jinxed the group, so they disbanded. :o)
CJB
him for the first time less than a month after he started with GS, and
that's what I remember him saying.
CJB
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CJB
the contrary. However, Tim is best when singing "Isaacs" style bluegrassy
stuff. Tim's not remembered for songs like "Real Good, Feel Good Song," but
for things like "Wayfaring Stranger," and "How Beautiful Heaven Must Be."
That's Tim's style. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, I like it. But
that's not the classic Kingsmen style.
Bryan Hudson may be an excellent fellow, but he's never going to be
"Kingsmen style." Now I know that no one is going to replace Jim Hamill,
but I think they should have found that type of singer. They are available.
(I'm one, LOL.)
Let's go back twenty three years. Jim Hamill left the Kingsmen to go to the
Senators. I have the "Just in Time" album that they made without him.
Here's what they did. Squire sang Lead, Eldridge sang Baritone, Parrack
was still on tenor, and Ray, of course, on Bass. Now, Squire isn't
identical in style and tone to Hamill, but he is similar. The Kingsmen
still sounded like the Kingsmen. They still had that thick, powerful
sounding lead singer as the signature of the group. That had been the
constant of the Kingsmen for twenty five years.
I was never satisfied with the Kingsmen's personnel changes after around
1990. I can live with PJ, but Chris Collins was not a Kingsmen tenor. Heck,
he was barely a tenor at all. If you listen to the songs when the "band"
sang, you'll find that Randy Miller had a more natural sounding tenor voice.
It seems that the Kingsmen decided that the thinner and nasally-er the
better. That may do for some groups, but it's a turn off to fans of the
classic Kingsmen. They should have stuck with the winning formula instead
of trying to reformulate the entire group. If you'll notice by their most
recent offerings, they have changed their mind and are going back to the
good stuff.
CJB
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Clarence Grigsby
Hutson's singing, stage prescence, or lack of being like Big Jim? If
it's the last one, I'm sorry but there will never be another Hammil.
Like Hovie, Peg, Glen, George, Vestal, Archie, and so many others, Jim
was the one and only. True, the Kingsmen went off in a totally different
direction and they weren't the same Kingsmen. But they do have a very
good sound. It just isn't Big Jim and the TON OF FUN. As far as the old
Kingsmen being polished, well I'm sure they'd get a laugh out of that!
As far as underrated singers, Tim Surrett would fit on that list for me.
Diana Gilette of the Perry Sisters is a really underrated singer. All of
the Ruppes don't get the credit they deserve. Matt Dibler is very good
with the Inspirations. Connie Fortner gets overlooked, mainly because
Peg is such a dominant figure. David Phelps tends to get overlooked
somewhat. Of course being on a group with Gaither, Penrod, and Lowry
would tend to do that. To me, David is the best singer in the GVB. The
Booth Brothers are extremely underrated. There are tons more, but that
is all that I can come up with now.
Doctor Lovable
.
> I was never satisfied with the Kingsmen's personnel changes after around
> 1990. I can live with PJ, but Chris Collins was not a Kingsmen tenor.
Heck,
> he was barely a tenor at all.
I feel your pain! Sometimes I shake my head and just wonder what they were
thinking.
steph...@webtv.net
all The Perry Sisters are great singers.I haven't heard the new alto
that sings with them now,but I'm sure she is just as good.I've heard she
is.As I'm thinking just off the top of my head I think Rhonda Hinson is
another underrrated singer.She has a great voice and really presents
herself very well on stage.Another one would be Elaine Wilburn.She may
never be female vocalist of the year but she does have a pretty voice in
my opinion.And se is a very sweet lady.In fact all The Wilburns are
really nice people.I'm sure there are many more singers I could put on
this list but as of now,none are coming to mind.If I think of anymore
I'll post them later.Thanks and God Bless,Stephen
dme...@my-deja.com
"CJB" <BELLE...@inetone.net> wrote:
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> (P.S. I know this rant sounds memmerish, but I honestly never slept
on the Kingsmen's bus.)
CJB,
It is interesting that you bring up sleeping with a bunch of men on a
bus. Some hidden desires coming to the surface? My guess is that you
would have very much enjoyed sleeping near all of The Kingsmen! This
Christian group discusses Mark Lowry and the harmful (untrue) rumors
surrounding him, so why not discuss CJB and his repressed tendencies?
Darrin
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musicman
few months ago. We were sitting in a restaraount inLouisville, KY right
after the "new" group had put out the tape of the old songs done the "Old
time way" . Hamil mentioned that he was disappointed that the tape didnt
have the old time sound. I mentioned that that was perhaps due to the
difference in personnel. Hamil said - "I didnn't want to say that, but you
may be right!"
Hudson is a good guy, but he is so far below Hamil as a lead that the group
always seems to be just off of their mark. I think Hudson would be a great
baritone because he has the range to go up and nail the ends for the laid
back lead singer. I would love to see the Kingsmen find a let 'er fly lead
singer witha Hamil mentality, move Hudson to Baritone and find an emcee. PJ
is killing them in this department. They are an emcee and a lead singer from
re-estab,ishiong themselves.
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CJB
man of your word?
CJB
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>Christian group discusses Mark Lowry and the harmful (untrue) rumors
>surrounding him,
Gee, i have been on this group for over a year and have never seen anything
harmful rumors surrounding Mark be discussed....oh you mean your little tirad
about him.
Clarence Grigsby
very rich low alto sound that you don't hear a lot of in SG. She is
definitely one of the great ladies in our music. Jackie will never win
Male Vocalist Of The Year, but pitch him a medium tempo, Eldridge Fox
type song and he'll nail it every time. The next time you hear them in
concert request a song called "Scars Won't Matter". They don't do it
often, but it's Jackie at his best.
Some people have called the Wilburns a "farm club" for SG. Tony Gore,
Tony Peace, Johnathan Wilburn, Randall Hunley, Loren Harris, and Ricky
Atkinson have all been with and left the group. I haven't heard the two
new guys but I know that Jackie and Elaine will put them out front and
give them a chance to shine.
I also love the attitude and spirit of this group. I've heard them at
the NQC with thousands in attendance and I've heard them in a grade
school gym in front of 40 or 50 people, with a severe thunderstorm
warning keeping the attendance down. Every time, they always go all out
and sing like it's their last concert.
If the Wilburns are ever in your area, do yourself a favor and go listen
to them.
Clarence Grigsby
Whether he was on harmonica, dobro, steel, or banjo, Gary always added a
special something to the Kingsmen. When he left in '92, they lost one of
the distinctive parts of their sound. Yet at awards time, Gary was
always overlooked in favor of Anthony Burger(who is great, don't get me
wrong). Last I heard, Dillard was a doctor. Medicine's gain is SG's
loss.
dme...@my-deja.com
a bell with you Kathy? You posted messages on April 1st and 6th, of
this year, to the thread. Remember now?
Darrin
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kjcs...@aol.com (KJCSmith1) wrote:
"Gee, i have been on this group for over a year and have never seen
anything harmful rumors surrounding Mark be discussed....oh you mean
your little tirad about him."
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KJCSmith1
I remember calling it stupid.......and I have also since learned from a few
sources about you......and you are not all you claim you are.
dme...@my-deja.com
You are beyond contempt for what you are trying to do here. You are a
miserable human being. I mean that sincerely and I am embarrassed to
have even corresponded with somebody of your low character. I have no
more time for you.
Darrin
In article <20000707214856...@ng-cp1.aol.com>,
Doctor Lovable
know. I sure do miss him on the Kingsmen stage.
Doc
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but you'll have to drop YOUR PANTS
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KJCSmith1
I am not trying to do anything......you have earned your rep....all by
yourself.
>You are a
>miserable human being.
ACtually I am not.......I am very happy and at peace....you know nothing about
me.
> mean that sincerely and I am embarrassed to
>have even corresponded with somebody of your low character
Funny that is why I quit responding to the idotic e-mails that you use to send
and had your name blocked from my e-mail was after I talked to some people who
knew you.
> I have no
>more time for you.
PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!
KJCSmith1
I'm not the one who came in spouting lies about other people. Like you did
with Mark Lowry....also I am not the one in legal trouble over somethings like
you are.
I am not the one that claim to be a know it all like you claim to be. YOu see
I have talked with some people that you have traveled with and you didn't tell
the whole truth about it.
> I have no
>more time for you.
Now if only you were a man of your word...but you have proved you are not. YOu
wouldn't know the truth if it hit you square in the face.
dme...@my-deja.com
untruths KJCSmith1 has told. Last November, when CJB and I were
exchanging mean words, KJCSmith1 emailed me one afternoon. I was at
work and saw her e-mail. I responded to Kathy and this started a cycle
of about fifteen e-mails, back and forth, where we argued about various
things. This went on for three or four hours.
She insulted me pretty bad, so I did the same to her. Kathy is a really
boring person. Well, I recall telling her in one of the e-mails how
boring she was and that I felt sorry for her husband. She e-mailed me
back and told me that I had made her cry because her husband had passed
away... (True or not, I don't know.)Our arguing soon wound down. I e-
mailed her back and said I was sorry. We finally apologized and tried
to make peace.
In the very last e-mail Kathy sent me, she asked, "Would it be all
right if I e-mail you again?" I e-mailed her back and told her "that
would be okay." I really didn't want to hear from her again, but I was
trying to be nice. This was back in November of 1999. Neither Kathy,
nor I, have e-mailed each other one time since that day. We have had
absolutely no correspondence until a couple of days ago, in this
discussion group. Kathy's statement below is a bold-faced lie.
In article <20000708110459...@ng-me1.aol.com>,
kjcs...@aol.com (KJCSmith1) wrote:
"Funny that is why I quit responding to the idotic e-mails that you use
to send and had your name blocked from my e-mail was after I talked to
some people who knew you."
KJCSmith1
>untruths KJCSmith1 has told.
I haven't told any untruths....I got this straight from people that you have
traveled with.
>KJCSmith1 emailed me one afternoon.
Nope....you e-mailed me first. I replied to your e-mail.
> I responded to Kathy and this started a cycle
>of about fifteen e-mails, back and forth, where we argued about various
>things.
Wasn't near that many more like about five or six, because that is when I
talked to Ed and some others and found out what kind of person you really are
and blocked your emails.
>She insulted me pretty bad, so I did the same to her. K
No dear.....you insulted me in the very first e-mail that you sent.....All I
did was disagree with your remarks about Mark and you called me a
prostutite....
>She e-mailed me
>back and told me that I had made her cry because her husband had passed
>away... (True or not, I don't know.)
Very true....He died December 17, 1997, would he has been gone almost three
years ago....boy have you sunk to a new low. YOu have no heart do you.
No wonder J.D. finally threw you out of a show.
>I e-
>mailed her back and said I was sorry.
Sorry but you did no such thing....if you did that was way after I blocked your
e-mail and never received it.
>"Would it be all
>right if I e-mail you again?
Wrong again....why would I do that when I had already blocked you....boy do you
have an imagaination.
>This was back in November of 1999.
Sorry but back in November on 1999 I didn't even have a computer......I was
moving to Indidana and had no access to one.
>p. Kathy's statement below is a bold-faced lie.
Not according to the people that you have traveled with in the past it isn't.
Clarence Grigsby
with underrated singers and musicians. Maybe Ms. Smith and Mr.(?) Memmer
should continue their fussing under a new thread entitled "Our Personal
Feud", so the rest of us, the ones who come here to discuss SG, will
know not to read it. I don't mean to be harsh, but the fact that two
people can't get along is kind of off topic.
By the way, does anybody recall the name of the Statesmen's current bass
singer? He's really underrated, but his name has slipped my mind.
David Stuart
Have a nice day!
David
David Murray (SG Fan)
David Stuart <Blig...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Clarence, Doug Young is the current bass singer with the Statesmen Qt.
Doug Young can really bark out the low notes. I agree that he's under-rated.
I'm glad Clarence thought to mention him. If memory serves me correctly,
Doug has been with Hovie about as long as Jack Toney with the latest group
that followed the _Revival_ line up.
dme...@my-deja.com
kjcs...@aol.com (KJCSmith1) wrote:
Darrin posted: "This was back in November of 1999."
KJCSmith1 replied: "Sorry but back in November on 1999 I didn't even
have a computer......I was moving to Indiana and had no access to one."
You have told another untruth, Kathy (KJCSmith1). Deja.com shows that
you had posts during this time frame. You posted during September,
October, November, and December of 1999. Your posts continued
throughout 2000 as well. The following posts have your name attached.
In fact, there were hundreds more but I selected just a few to prove my
point:
12/30/1999 Re: CDs of J.D.Sumner & Frie alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
12/05/1999 Re: Glenn Payne (sic) alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/24/1999 Re: Righteous Indigestion alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/17/1999 Re: Kelly Nelon alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/22/1999 Re: Elvis - have I missed th alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/22/1999 Re: Phil Cross and Poet Voic alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/20/1999 Re: Elvis - have I missed th alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/18/1999 Re: When the abuse has finis alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/18/1999 Re: CJB and drlovable and Mr alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/16/1999 Re: Who replaced Glenn alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/13/1999 Re: Carol's thoughts about m alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/13/1999 Re: Phil Cross and Poet Voic alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/13/1999 Re: CJB's answer to all alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/12/1999 Re: Carol's thoughts about m alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/12/1999 Re: Without JD and George, w alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/12/1999 Re: CJB. Please respond abou alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/13/1999 Re: Kelly Nelon alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/11/1999 Re: Glen Payne alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/06/1999 Glen Payne Update alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/06/1999 Re: Kelly Nelon alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/06/1999 Re: Kelly Nelon alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/05/1999 Re: Glenn Payne alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/04/1999 Re: Stephen Hill alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/10/1999 Re: Response to J.D. Sumner alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/10/1999 Re: GAITHER VOCAL BAND alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/09/1999 Re: Response to J.D. Sumner alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/08/1999 Re: GAITHER VOCAL BAND alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/05/1999 Re: Without JD and George, w alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/05/1999 Re: Who is in your DREAM QUA alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/05/1999 Re: GAITHER VOCAL BAND alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/05/1999 Re: Response to J.D. Sumner alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/05/1999 Re: GAITHER VOCAL BAND alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/05/1999 Re: GAITHER VOCAL BAND alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/04/1999 Re: Response to J.D. Sumner alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/04/1999 Re: GAITHER VOCAL BAND alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
11/03/1999 Re: Who is in your DREAM QUA alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
10/24/1999 Re: Righteous Indigestion alt.music.gospel.sout KJCSmith1
09/10/1999 Re: Sonya Isaacs Country Pro alt.
Kathy, you did have access to a computer. You have been dishonest,
ma'am. I have read some of your posts (July 7th, 8th, and 9th) from the
other Deja.com discussion groups. You have 16 posts in four different
groups during the last 3 days. Your arguments with Karen C. and Amy
Kelly were terrible. You are having a tough time in your life right
now, this is clear.
As far as the mean words said between us, I am sorry that we said them.
Let's cool it, okay? Can you forgive and forget the past problems that
we have had? I am ready to, if you are. We don't have to be enemies. In
fact, I will mail you a "peace offering". A couple of very special
gifts honoring a man who was our friend - and the best bass singer in
the world! What do you say?
Darrin
KJCSmith1
>know not to read it.
I'm sorry!!! He is on ignore now.
>By the way, does anybody recall the name of the Statesmen's current bass
>singer?
Is it Doug Young?
KJCSmith1
Nope not in November I didn't.....my cousin was using my computer then...I was
in Indiana.
> Your arguments with Karen C. and Amy
>Kelly were terrible.
Yes, they were, and the three of us get along just fine now, we have apologized
to each other and now talk on a regular basis.
>You are having a tough time in your life right
>now, this is clear.
Nope for the first time in three years....my life has evened out.
>I am sorry that we said them.
I am also.
>Let's cool it, okay? Can you forgive and forget the past problems that
>we have had?
Problems What problems???? It is in the past so I agree just leave it there.
Kathy
KJCSmith1
Since we decided to leave things in the past he is off ignore.
Leslie,James,Larry Moore
bass singer is Doug Young and yes he is Underrated.
James
Mary McVay
our time deleting it out.
Mary
KJCSmith1 <kjcs...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Leslie,James,Larry Moore
said by either one,is like putting coals on the fire,and when someone
hates you,it doesn`t hurt you,unless you hate them back,then it destroys
you.
James
KJCSmith1
>our time deleting it out.
Learn to read it has ended.
KJCSmith1
If you will notice Darrin and I put to rest days ago.
Mary McVay
stir up anything again. I love this group and enjoy reading the different
opinions of each individual. Also forgive me for misspelling feud. Have a
nice day everyone.
Mary
KJCSmith1 <kjcs...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Frederick Rudofsky
I've ever heard. And, they are tremendous in concert.....
KJCSmith1
>stir up anything again.
Not a problem. I too love this group.
Kathy