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Kris Dugan

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Jul 8, 2002, 10:02:16 PM7/8/02
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I usually lurk around here, but I wanted to bring to your attention
that someone is posting the songs from Selling England by the Session
in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.prog.

This CD set has demos for the album Selling England by the Pound, and
a couple of unreleased song demos.

There's also a couple songs from Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks in
there too.

Hurry there!

Jon eh!

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Jul 8, 2002, 11:14:27 PM7/8/02
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"Kris Dugan" <YoM...@yourhome.com> wrote in message
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It's also available at Furthur Network along with about 20 other SHN & mp3
Genesis Bootlegs & studio demo type thingies. Don't forget to make them
available for upload if you do download them, the more active sources the
better.

Lamblies~


David R

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Jul 9, 2002, 7:03:17 AM7/9/02
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Those posts are unreadable !!!!!!!

No attachments !!!!!!

What do we have to do ?

"Kris Dugan" <YoM...@yourhome.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
3d2a4372.2834861@localhost...

NoT GorillA

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Jul 9, 2002, 7:19:14 AM7/9/02
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"David R" <w...@knows.com> wrote in message
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I was wondering how you managed to hook the files also

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genesisweb

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Jul 10, 2002, 11:07:12 AM7/10/02
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Just get a news group reader like newsbin www.newsbin.com and select the
group and download the sounds easy
:)
"NoT GorillA" <FOAD-s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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NoT GorillA

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Jul 10, 2002, 12:52:14 PM7/10/02
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Ta

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Covenant

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Jul 10, 2002, 9:20:11 PM7/10/02
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> > > > "Kris Dugan" <YoM...@yourhome.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > > > 3d2a4372.2834861@localhost...
> > > > > I usually lurk around here, but I wanted to bring to your
attention
> > > > > that someone is posting the songs from Selling England by the
> Session
> > > > > in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.prog.
> > > > >
> > > > > This CD set has demos for the album Selling England by the Pound,
> and
> > > > > a couple of unreleased song demos.


Aren't these the same tracks from *In The Beginning* Vol 5 ??

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Kris Dugan

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Jul 11, 2002, 10:41:45 PM7/11/02
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I'm not sure. I'm not a big collector. I only have the albums and
B-sides, I typically don't try to find demos or live shows. I was
just posting for the sake of those who might be interested in
downloading the songs.

Regarding getting the songs, I use Free Agent, which automatically
combined all the parts together into one file. There are other news
readers that should have the ability to grab multipart binaries.

Kris

Chris West

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Jul 11, 2002, 7:58:04 AM7/11/02
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In article <aginc2$b8c$2...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Covenant <covenant@joela
mb.freeserve.co.uk> writes

Yes. And Vol 4.
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Chris West

Steve Heliczer

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Jul 12, 2002, 6:27:18 AM7/12/02
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WOW!

These recordings are absolutely priceless. Listening to how these
classic tracks were written, rehearsed and constructed in a
home-studio environment is totally magical. I am amazed there is not
a greater response to this original post. If you are an early Genesis
fan you MUST get these tracks if you have not heard them. It is
fascinating listening to the interplay between these five young guys
making the music, which we now all know so well.

I would love to know where it is possible to get other recordings of
this kind, and if anybody can e-mail me and let me know, I would be
eternally grateful.

I am not interested in live material, but studio out-takes and
rehearsal tapes from the most important era of Genesis are incredibly
interesting in my opinion.

Steve Heliczer

heli...@bt-click.com

jrsquonk

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Jul 12, 2002, 11:29:53 AM7/12/02
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Let's see now...for studio outtakes from the early period, there is "In
The Beginning, Volumes 1-6", "Studio", "Cryme","Happy the Man", the Lamb
outtakes (also available on ITB). From the Hackett era, there is "A
Trick of the Takes", and one other title that is almost the same thing,
from the 3 man era, there's "Abacab Complete", and from the Wilson era,
"Alternate Calling All Stations"

I'm sure I missed some, anyone else want to add anything?

JRS

Steve Heliczer

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Jul 12, 2002, 12:18:08 PM7/12/02
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>Let's see now...for studio outtakes from the early period, there is "In
>The Beginning, Volumes 1-6", "Studio", "Cryme","Happy the Man", the Lamb
>outtakes (also available on ITB). From the Hackett era, there is "A
>Trick of the Takes"

Well, I do not have any of these! Are there any other newsgroups
apart from the one mentioned where one can find this material? The
I.T.B. collection sounds amazing. I would LOVE to get my hands on any
of this stuff, up to T.O.T.T.

I have never found anything using FutureNet or Morpheus etc...

I find it a shame that Genesis could not make this stuff available on
one of the two Archive box sets, especially the second one which
really was rather poor. The Mama jam thing is IMHO abismal and just
highlighted for me the terminal decline and signalled the lack of
future invention or ideas.

These recordings from the early rehursals highlight for me how
innovative they were in the 70's.

Steve Heliczer

jrsquonk

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Jul 12, 2002, 12:52:17 PM7/12/02
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Try the Yahoo group genesis-trades, or the less active genesistrades. Check
out the trade lists people have posted. Then make some deals!

Covenant

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Jul 12, 2002, 4:34:06 PM7/12/02
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"Chris West" <ch...@zadok.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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**PHEW** !!!

Am I glad I took that chance and *didn't* take the time to d/l them !!!

;' )

Covenant

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Jul 12, 2002, 4:36:32 PM7/12/02
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"Steve Heliczer" <enq...@qed-productions.com> wrote in message
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Re the Q I asked...
These are taken from a 5 disc set called *In The Beginning* which is
*mostly* from the studio sessions from The Lamb and Selling England, but
there are also various others like Happy the Man and Silver Song.. and a few
by Anthony Phillips..

Covenant

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Jul 12, 2002, 4:38:14 PM7/12/02
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"jrsquonk" <stockt...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Let's see now...for studio outtakes from the early period, there is "In
> The Beginning, Volumes 1-6",


?????

SIX ???


> "Studio", "Cryme","Happy the Man", the Lamb
> outtakes (also available on ITB). From the Hackett era, there is "A
> Trick of the Takes", and one other title that is almost the same thing,

*Cryme* I have, and *Trick*
But I've never heard of the others! Any good??


> from the 3 man era, there's "Abacab Complete", and from the Wilson era,
> "Alternate Calling All Stations"


Hmmm.....

These sound interesting too!

jrsquonk

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Jul 12, 2002, 5:25:32 PM7/12/02
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Covenant wrote:

> "jrsquonk" <stockt...@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:3D2EF5F1...@charter.net...
> > Let's see now...for studio outtakes from the early period, there is "In
> > The Beginning, Volumes 1-6",
>
> ?????
>
> SIX ???
>
>

Yes, SIX!!!


> > "Studio", "Cryme","Happy the Man", the Lamb
> > outtakes (also available on ITB). From the Hackett era, there is "A
> > Trick of the Takes", and one other title that is almost the same thing,
>
> *Cryme* I have, and *Trick*
> But I've never heard of the others! Any good??
>

Yep.

>
> > from the 3 man era, there's "Abacab Complete", and from the Wilson era,
> > "Alternate Calling All Stations"
>
> Hmmm.....
>
> These sound interesting too!
>
>

Yep....

Brennan Young

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Jul 13, 2002, 8:17:27 AM7/13/02
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Covenant wrote:

> Re the Q I asked...
> These are taken from a 5 disc set called *In The Beginning* which is
> *mostly* from the studio sessions from The Lamb and Selling England, but
> there are also various others like Happy the Man and Silver Song.. and a few
> by Anthony Phillips..

This 5 disc set is some underground item, then. Available from dodgy and
transient sources only... or?

> Covenant
> A Man With Far Too Much Time On His Hands

You again! You certainly spend plenty of it on usenet! (Keep seeing you on alt.comedy.british)


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Covenant

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Jul 13, 2002, 10:35:50 AM7/13/02
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"Brennan Young" <brenno...@young.net> wrote in message
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> Covenant wrote:
>
> > Re the Q I asked...
> > These are taken from a 5 disc set called *In The Beginning* which is
> > *mostly* from the studio sessions from The Lamb and Selling England, but
> > there are also various others like Happy the Man and Silver Song.. and a
few
> > by Anthony Phillips..
>
> This 5 disc set is some underground item, then. Available from dodgy and
> transient sources only... or?

I dunno.. I remember a thread about 3 years ago (maybe not that long) that
discussed the set.. I *think* the longer set was just the same tracks spread
over 6 disks instead of 5.. but I could be wrong...

(I actually typed out the entire listings of all 5 disks last time this
discussion raised it's head.. I'm sure as sh*t not doing THAT again!!!)


> > Covenant
> > A Man With Far Too Much Time On His Hands
>
> You again! You certainly spend plenty of it on usenet! (Keep seeing you on
alt.comedy.british)


One of my *lesser* post-to NGs..

;' )

(That said.. my input here has dropped SHARPLY over the last year or two...)


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jrsquonk

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Jul 13, 2002, 12:38:22 PM7/13/02
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Covenant wrote:

> I dunno.. I remember a thread about 3 years ago (maybe not that long) that
> discussed the set.. I *think* the longer set was just the same tracks spread
> over 6 disks instead of 5.. but I could be wrong...
>

Well, each disc of my 6 disc set is over 70 minutes long, so I don't think mine
is a 5 disc set spread over 6. However, I understand that the whole ITB series
was redone with bonus tracks and that is what I've got.

As for typing the whole list, I think all this info is at Simon's site:

www.genesis-movement.co.uk

Those who want info on all the studio boots will find a category there dedicated
to just that...

JRS

Covenant

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Jul 13, 2002, 3:45:01 PM7/13/02
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"jrsquonk" <stockt...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Covenant wrote:
>
> > I dunno.. I remember a thread about 3 years ago (maybe not that long)
that
> > discussed the set.. I *think* the longer set was just the same tracks
spread
> > over 6 disks instead of 5.. but I could be wrong...
> >
>
> Well, each disc of my 6 disc set is over 70 minutes long, so I don't think
mine
> is a 5 disc set spread over 6. However, I understand that the whole ITB
series
> was redone with bonus tracks and that is what I've got.


Aaaaaahhhh !!!

Iiiii Seeeee......

> As for typing the whole list, I think all this info is at Simon's site:
>
> www.genesis-movement.co.uk
>
> Those who want info on all the studio boots will find a category there
dedicated
> to just that...

Well... I looked, but couldn't see a link to studio boots anywhere...
Just album boots with setlists.

jrsquonk

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Jul 13, 2002, 7:18:34 PM7/13/02
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Covenant wrote:

> > Those who want info on all the studio boots will find a category there
> dedicated to just that...
>
> Well... I looked, but couldn't see a link to studio boots anywhere...
> Just album boots with setlists.
>

First, click on live recordings. Then click on the picture of a studio mixing
board just to the right of the CAS album cover. It's in there....

Covenant

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Jul 14, 2002, 9:51:06 AM7/14/02
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"jrsquonk" <stockt...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Covenant wrote:
>
> > > Those who want info on all the studio boots will find a category there
> > dedicated to just that...
> >
> > Well... I looked, but couldn't see a link to studio boots anywhere...
> > Just album boots with setlists.
> >
>
> First, click on live recordings. Then click on the picture of a studio
mixing
> board

??????

>just to the right of the CAS album cover. It's in there....


I didn't see that pic...
Maybe the whole page hadn't loaded.... Cheers Jr...

Harold71ba

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:19:44 AM7/14/02
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Covenant

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"Harold71ba" <Harol...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Oh I found it.... ;' )

But I noticed that the listing there is slightly incomplete.

Disc four is missing *one* of the listings for the battle of epping forest,
and the last track (The Cinema Show (strudio take, no lyrics) )

But, yes... Annoying.. WAY too much stuff there I don't have !!!

;' )

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Harold71ba

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Jul 14, 2002, 5:49:43 PM7/14/02
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Hehehe...*who* needs to listen to 18 Epping Forest takes in a
row....;-)

The tracklist of my disc 4 is slightly different too:

In The Beginning Vol 4

1 Happy The Man Demo
2 Silver Song Demo
3 Only Your Love Demo
4, 5 intstrumental improv
6-23 The Making of "THe Battle Of Epping Forest"
24 Studio Improvisation
25-28 The Cinema Show Instrumental Takes
29-31 Moonlit Knight Studio Takes
32 The Last Time (Jagger/Richards)
33 You Really Got Me (Davies)
34, 35 I Know What I Like Studio Takes, no lyrics
36 The Colony Of Slippermen Studio Take


>
>But, yes... Annoying.. WAY too much stuff there I don't have !!!

'collectors pain'...;)

>
>;' )

Covenant

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Jul 14, 2002, 8:29:06 PM7/14/02
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"Harold71ba" <Harol...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The tracklist of my disc 4 is slightly different too:
> In The Beginning Vol 4
> 1 Happy The Man Demo
> 2 Silver Song Demo
> 3 Only Your Love Demo
> 4, 5 intstrumental improv
> 6-23 The Making of "THe Battle Of Epping Forest"
> 24 Studio Improvisation
> 25-28 The Cinema Show Instrumental Takes
> 29-31 Moonlit Knight Studio Takes
> 32 The Last Time (Jagger/Richards)
> 33 You Really Got Me (Davies)
> 34, 35 I Know What I Like Studio Takes, no lyrics
> 36 The Colony Of Slippermen Studio Take


Hmmm.....
Mine goes......

1 Happy the man
2 Silver song (demo phil vocals)
3 Only your love (demo phil vocals)
4-5 Studio Improv
6-10 Epping Forest (Inst.)
11-12 Cinema Show (fast inst. and inst.)
13 Moonlight Knight
14 Epping Forest
15 The Last Time
16 You Really Got Me
17-20 Epping Forest
21-22 Know What I Like
23 Cinema Show


> >But, yes... Annoying.. WAY too much stuff there I don't have !!!

> 'collectors pain'...;)


TELL me about it !!!


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