Abacab---track by track
Pac...@webtv.net
remain so forevermore. It was the first Genesis album that landed the
group in the US Top 10, and the first album to give the band more than
one Top 40 hit in the States, too (there were 3 in all). It was
certainly a sign of things to come for the band commercially. Many fans
celebrated the group's new success, while others were appalled.
For some, the band's new streamlined rock sound on it was exciting,
showing the band moving into the 80's with a new energy & power, while
still retaining the spirit of earlier Genesis. For others, it was the
first "misstep" the band made, arguably the first album that transformed
Genesis into "The Phil Collins Band." And then there was the controversy
of using the Earth Wind & Fire horns for one track.... :-)
I'm in the pro "Abacab" group. As I've stated in the past, I'm a Genesis
fan who accepts the band's new musical directions, and I'm certainly
able to find power & beauty in the band's later work as well as the
early stuff w/ Gabriel, Hackett, and Anthony Phillips. Genesis are a
band that never stay stuck in one place, and either you go along with
them or you don't. I'm ALWAYS open to being disappointed by these guys,
but so far, they've never disappointed me.
Honestly.
IMO, "Abacab" is a very exciting Genesis album, and it's all the
evidence Genesis need to show detractors that they are, indeed, a ROCK
band. As much as I like later albums like "Invisible Touch" & "We Can't
Dance," they gave too many people the wrong impression about Genesis,
that they were too "Top 40" for their own good. On "Abacab," Genesis
blast on all cylinders. There's no "Throwing It All Away" kind-of song
in sight. There's no question that *some* detractors, at least, would
change their minds about the band if they gave "Abacab" a listen. Not
convinced that Genesis can rock with the best of them? "Abacab" is the
proof.
1. Abacab
The opening shot says it all: an explosion sound effect, and the band
are off and running, with one of their greatest rockers of all. Phil
commands the microphone & smashes his drumkit with everything he's got,
Tony's pulsing, pounding keyboard work is astounding, and Mike
brilliantly wields his guitar axe like a pro. And to top off this
already amazing piece, the band effortlessly slide into a thrilling,
extended jam to finish it off. By the time this track comes to an end,
I'm in need of a cigarette! :-)
2. No Reply At All
The controversial hit that utilises the EW&F horn section. Some fans
were aghast: HORNS on a Genesis album??? (Obviously, they'd forgotten
about "From Genesis To Revelation"). The band say they simply wanted to
put something different on a Genesis album, and besides, the song cried
out for a brass arrangement. Good enough for me.
"No Reply At All" is not an all-time fan favorite, simply because the
band have stronger songs in their catalog than this one. It's not even
the strongest tune on the album. But never mind---it's a catchy tune,
the EW&F horns compliment the band very well (as they also do on
"Paperlate"), and the song got Genesis on the radio once again. Nothing
wrong with that! :-)
3. Me And Sarah Jane
A terrific Tony Banks composition and definitely one of his best. I
don't know what I, personally, can add about this song that hasn't been
said already, but I'll try: I just love how the song moves. Tony puts
some very lovely hills & valleys throughout the song, and you really
feel as if you're on some sort of musical journey. The lyrics are
strong, Phil's sings the song beautifully, and the band's performance is
top-notch. An all-around masterwork.
4. Keep It Dark
A guitar-hook from Mike gets this little rocker going, about a man who's
been away from home for awhile, has some adventures, and returns home to
tell his family about all the wonders he's seen. Excellent mood and
atmosphere, and Phil's sledgehammer drumming can't be beat.
5. Dodo/Lurker
After the thrilling "Abacab," the band serve up another extended,
sweeping blast of Genesis rock. This piece has it all: awesome interplay
by the band, sonics, power, intriguing obscure lyrics, and a great,
dramatic lead vocal from Mr. Collins. It's a winner!
By the way, the so-called-riddle in "Lurker": at least two answers have
been debated on this newsgroup---a submarine and a dodo bird. *I'm*
going with the dodo bird:
Clothes of brass: Dodos were brassy-colored.
And hair of brown: Dodos had brown hair at the top of their heads.
Seldom need to breathe: Dodos could hold their breath for long periods
of time.
Don't need no wings to fly: Dodos couldn't fly.
And a heart of stone: Dodos were known to eat pebbles.
And a fear of fire and water: Not only were Dodos afraid of fire, they
were also afraid to go into the water.
Who am I?: A dodo bird!
(But if you really believe that it's a submarine, well, to each their
own....)
One last thing: for many years I listened to "Dodo" believing that when
Phil sang "Dog baiter," he was actually singing "Darth Vader"! Imagine
my embarrassment when I finally read the lyric sheet.... :-)
6. Who Dunnit?
The one, the only. Easily considered to be the most *hated* song in the
band's entire catalog, most likely for it's monotonous, "pointless"
lyrics.
Now, I'll agree that "Who Dunnit?" is not one of the band's
masterpieces. But what everybody seems to overlook is that this song
ISN'T TRYING to be a masterpiece. It is what it is: comedy.
The lyrics are DELIBERATELY monotonous. That's part of the song's humor.
Pointless? Not a bit---it's obviously about trying to solve a murder
mystery, with the police force throwing up their hands at the end and
saying, "Oh, f--k it, we can't solve this case!"
COMEDY, people. Comedy.
"Who Dunnit?" is also a lot of fun musically. Phil's hilarious vocal &
complete annihilation of his drumkit is a treat, Tony's weird, wacko
keyboard noises also add to the proceedings, and Mike rounds out the
bottom nicely with his funky bass line.
I'm sure that the many people out there that despise "Who Dunnit?" will
continue to do so (I can see them now, reaching over to that "skip"
button on their CD players....). If you don't like "Who Dunnit?",
fine....but you've missed the joke of it.
I like "Who Dunnit?". Bite me.
7. Man On The Corner
Phil's last solo composition for Genesis, and it's a beauty. One of the
album's few quiet numbers, it's perfectly suited for the band, certainly
doesn't sound like a Phil Collins solo song. A sad song about a sad,
lonely man, Phil paints a powerful image of this fellow and his
predicament. It's arguably some of Phil's finest lyrics ever. The other
standout member on this track is, of course, Tony, with his simple but
striking keyboard work guiding the song along.
8. Like It Or Not
An "Abacab" track that doesn't get too much of a mention. I can't
understand why, 'cause it's great. Written by Mike, it's a powerful
ballad about a guy going back and forth between his emotions about a
woman he's having problems with. Part of him wants her out, another part
of him wants her to stay. It's not too clear which part of the guy's
emotions win out at the end, but by the end, we've been given a fine,
sweeping tune, a buried treasure from Mr. Rutherford & well performed by
the band.
9. Another Record
I guess this song got "buried" along with "Like It Or Not"--it also
doesn't get mentioned too often! The final track on the album, a simple
tune about a guy who loves rock 'n' roll (so put another record on for
him, why don'tcha), it's a fine album-closer. The band ride off into the
sunset with it, perfectly accompanied by Tony's train-sounding
keyboards.
"Abacab" was definitely a turning point record for Genesis. With change
comes risk, and some fans definitely got off the bus upon it's release
and never returned. Too bad for them.
But I've always loved this album. Tony, Mike, & Phil acheived something
here: they gave themselves a whole new fire and energy with "Abacab,"
while still keeping that ol' Genesis flag of yor flying. They became a
different Genesis with this album, but Genesis they were---and
are---still. :-)
Pacidy
Roxanne and Tony
I'm in the pro "Abacab" group.
Me too! Easily in my top 5 G. albums.
6. Who Dunnit?
The one, the only. Easily considered to be the most *hated* song in the
band's entire catalog, most likely for it's monotonous, "pointless"
lyrics.
The lyrics are DELIBERATELY monotonous. That's part of the song's humor.
Pointless? Not a bit---it's obviously about trying to solve a murder
mystery, with the police force throwing up their hands at the end and
saying, "Oh, f--k it, we can't solve this case!"
Could be, but my favorite explanation was given by someone on Paperlate a
couple of years ago: Someone in the studio broke wind and wouldn't 'fess up.
--Tony D.
One Man's Fool
AMG should be wrapped up, placed under a bow and handed to you. You are the
greatest and most brilliant Genesis fan ever.
And I thought it was Darth Vader too!
1MF
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remain so forevermore.
Bravo Pacidy
Your analysis was heartfelt and fair. I think Abacab was outstanding for me
simply because it took the sting out of trying so very hard to like Duke. I
see the need for Duke now as a "transition" album but they really nailed it
on Abacab. When I first heard the rush of sound at the start of the title
track it just floored me and I stayed down.
Funnily enough I listened to the album for the first time in ages yesterday
and f**k me if it didn't do the same thing!
Stuart
Darren
stagnant "Duke".
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StmWatch
>simply because it took the sting out of trying so very hard to like Duke.
Oddly enough, Duke was and is one of my favorite Genesis albums. Wonderful
musicianship, diverse songwriting, and my favorite Genesis instrumental(s)
(Duke's Travels/Duke's End) all add up to an amazing, yet strangely
underappreciated album.
OKCOLO
(I thought I was the only "classic Genesis"
lover who likes _Abacab_.)
"Like It or Not" is a good song ("period") and
"Abacab" is probably the band's most creative
moment of the 80's. ("Mama" is close and we
all like "Domino", right?)
"Another Record" is a fine closer, almost as
grand, IMO, and similar to album/side closers:
"How Many More Times" - LZ
"One Way Street" - Aerosmith
"Working Man" - Rush
(These all have that Blues Rock jam element.)
I love _Abacab_, but I'd still say eight of its
studio LP predecessors are better. 8^)
Peace
Sticklerz
Mark Rae
Excellent post! I really like Abacab as well, though I don't listen to it as
much as some of the other albums. However, I'm convinced that the Lurker
riddle is a submarine, as follows:
"Clothes of brass":
Brass is very common in the nautical world because of its resistence to
corrosion.
"Hair of brown":
When submarines come to the surface, they are covered with all sorts of
seaweed.
"Seldom need to breathe":
Submarines can stay under water for long periods.
"Don't need no wings to fly":
Submarines fly through the ocean without wings.
"And a heart of stone":
Uranium, the stone that powers the submarine's nuclear reactor.
"And a fear of fire and water":
The two worst enemies of a submarine. Water means a hull breach, and
everyone drowns. Fire means all the oxygen aboard burns and everyone
suffocates.
Now, I can see how the above lines could also refer to a Dodo. However, the
working titles for Dodo and Lurker were German I and II. This must refer to
German U-boats, because the music itself doesn't sound German at all. Also,
Lurker ends on the same music that Submarine begins with. Shame they didn't
continue with it on the album, but they would probably have had to drop
Another Record - oh what a shame that would have been!
--
Mark Rae
http://OurWorld.CompuServe.com/HomePages/MarkRae
G99 Genesis Fan Convention
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Nico Kevin Bracht
>
> One last thing: for many years I listened to "Dodo" believing that when
> Phil sang "Dog baiter," he was actually singing "Darth Vader"! Imagine
> my embarrassment when I finally read the lyric sheet.... :-)
>
sang "Darth Vader"!
It's good to hear that I'm not completely alone...
...Calling All Stations...
Nico Kevin Bracht
Barry Miller
"Phil" Genesis album. I found it a severe let down after "Duke", which I
consider the best album ever by anyone.
Don't get me wrong, I like the songs "Abacab", "No Reply At All", "Dodo",
and "Man On The Corner." It's just that the rest of the songs seem so,
well, forgettable. "Like It Or Not" is a prime example. It's a pretty good
song, but I always forget about it when I'm thinking of songs I want to
listen to. The one thing that has always really bugged me about the
"Abacab" album was "Another Record" (even though I understand it was a
leftover from "Duke"). It starts of with a great little piano and guitar
intro, then turns into a track that sounds more like a b-side to Tony's "The
Fugitive".
I guess I'll have to listen to the CD again today and try to discover what
others seem to have found that I haven't.
ManOfSpells
Nico Kevin Bracht
Now that we are talking so much about ABACAB, I just wanted to say that I
realy like the track itself, but I feel it is a shame, that they didn't
play it "out". On 3SL they continue through the instrumental section, but
lack the steam in my opinion. A version with the steam and sound quality
of the studio track and the length of the live version would be great. Is
there an "extended studio version" of this song?
BTW I would be interested to hear a version of ABACAB sung by Ray. What do
you think???
...Calling All Stations...
Nico Kevin Bracht
PS: Work doesn't seem to get me today... ;)))
David H. Martyn
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>
>6. Who Dunnit?
>The one, the only. Easily considered to be the most *hated* song in the
>band's entire catalog, most likely for it's monotonous, "pointless"
>lyrics.
>
>Now, I'll agree that "Who Dunnit?" is not one of the band's
>masterpieces. But what everybody seems to overlook is that this song
>ISN'T TRYING to be a masterpiece. It is what it is: comedy.
>
>The lyrics are DELIBERATELY monotonous. That's part of the song's humor.
>Pointless? Not a bit---it's obviously about trying to solve a murder
>mystery, with the police force throwing up their hands at the end and
>saying, "Oh, f--k it, we can't solve this case!"
>
>COMEDY, people. Comedy.
>
>"Who Dunnit?" is also a lot of fun musically. Phil's hilarious vocal &
>complete annihilation of his drumkit is a treat, Tony's weird, wacko
>keyboard noises also add to the proceedings, and Mike rounds out the
>bottom nicely with his funky bass line.
>
>I'm sure that the many people out there that despise "Who Dunnit?" will
>continue to do so (I can see them now, reaching over to that "skip"
>button on their CD players....). If you don't like "Who Dunnit?",
>fine....but you've missed the joke of it.
>
>I like "Who Dunnit?". Bite me.
>
I'll pass on biting you, but Turn It On Again was a much better effort
at experimentation. They were trying to show with that song that
"less" could be musically interesting, and they did so rather well.
Whodunnit just pisses most of us off.
>7. Man On The Corner
>Phil's last solo composition for Genesis, and it's a beauty. One of the
>album's few quiet numbers, it's perfectly suited for the band, certainly
>doesn't sound like a Phil Collins solo song. A sad song about a sad,
>lonely man, Phil paints a powerful image of this fellow and his
>predicament. It's arguably some of Phil's finest lyrics ever. The other
>standout member on this track is, of course, Tony, with his simple but
>striking keyboard work guiding the song along.
>
Ack. The Attack of the Giant Drum-Machine-Man.
>8. Like It Or Not
>An "Abacab" track that doesn't get too much of a mention. I can't
>understand why, 'cause it's great. Written by Mike, it's a powerful
>ballad about a guy going back and forth between his emotions about a
>woman he's having problems with. Part of him wants her out, another part
>of him wants her to stay. It's not too clear which part of the guy's
>emotions win out at the end, but by the end, we've been given a fine,
>sweeping tune, a buried treasure from Mr. Rutherford & well performed by
>the band.
>
Agreed.
>9. Another Record
>I guess this song got "buried" along with "Like It Or Not"--it also
>doesn't get mentioned too often! The final track on the album, a simple
>tune about a guy who loves rock 'n' roll (so put another record on for
>him, why don'tcha), it's a fine album-closer. The band ride off into the
>sunset with it, perfectly accompanied by Tony's train-sounding
>keyboards.
>
Maybe people forget about these last two because we couldn't get past
Whoddunit and Man on the Corner.
- David Martyn
Squonk
***FINALLY!!! Someone else who actually likes this song!! While it's not
the one I rush to when I'm looking for a Genesis song to listen to, I do
like the song, and I think it's hilarious...
Squonk
squ...@richnet.net
gpen...@my-dejanews.com
Genesis albums seemed to get worse from ATOTT to Duke. You'd think with
improved technology it would be the other way around.
Greg
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Wot Gorilla
>I'm convinced that the Lurker
>riddle is a submarine
Hmmm...I've always felt that the preceding track actually being called
Dodo, was a subtle subliminal clue of sorts! ;)
--
Wot Gorilla
dn...@webtv.net
he wants to know why. Now I find out it's dog baiter, wow!
shouldabeen: Darth Vader, masturbater, breathing heavy 'cause he can't
find his fly. Stupid helmet, it gets in the way, but he needs it to get
through the day.LOL
Cheetah818
interview that he had no real answer in mind when he wrote the lyrics. But
that doesn't mean we can't make up our own :)
Lee
David H. Martyn
>I always wondered why the sound was so poor on Duke, though. Sound quality on
>Genesis albums seemed to get worse from ATOTT to Duke. You'd think with
>improved technology it would be the other way around.
>
>Greg
>
I would guess you're not a David Hentschel fan, then?
- David Martyn
Petec1978
Darren: poster child for contraceptive research grants worldwide.
gpen...@my-dejanews.com
fan? Well, I guess I am. I mean, I think think Trick's sound is very good.
You can't possibly believe that all four of these lp's sound equally good -
sound-wise, that is - do you? I would have to disagree with you completely
on that. Are you saying that you believe these albums all sound good and it's
simply Hentschel's sound I don't like? If I didn't like the sound of any of
these albums I guess that would make sense, but obviously that is not the
case.
The band's instruments - esp. ATTWT and Duke - sound muddied and flat to me
on vinyl. The don't jump out at you through the speakers (this,
unfortunately, can be said about a lot of their albums). I think the tracks
on ATOTT do, though. Listen to Volcano and Squonk, then put on Motherlode
from ATTWT or Turn it on Again from Duke. Not a "live" sound, IMHO. I think
I even read where Tony expressed his displeasure with the recording of Duke.
Of course, to totally contradict myself, I'm not a big fan of Phil's drum
sound during the Hugh Padgem (sp?) years either. His slapping drum sound is
annoying to me. I prefer a fuller sound (listen to Phil on Archives...not
just his style, which is better too, but the sound of his drums...awesome, I
think).
Greg
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>David - I'm not sure how to interpret your question. Am I a Dave Hentschel
>fan? Well, I guess I am. I mean, I think think Trick's sound is very good.
>You can't possibly believe that all four of these lp's sound equally good -
>sound-wise, that is - do you? I would have to disagree with you completely
>on that. Are you saying that you believe these albums all sound good and it's
>simply Hentschel's sound I don't like? If I didn't like the sound of any of
>these albums I guess that would make sense, but obviously that is not the
>case.
>
>The band's instruments - esp. ATTWT and Duke - sound muddied and flat to me
>on vinyl. The don't jump out at you through the speakers (this,
>unfortunately, can be said about a lot of their albums). I think the tracks
>on ATOTT do, though. Listen to Volcano and Squonk, then put on Motherlode
>from ATTWT or Turn it on Again from Duke. Not a "live" sound, IMHO. I think
>I even read where Tony expressed his displeasure with the recording of Duke.
>
>Of course, to totally contradict myself, I'm not a big fan of Phil's drum
>sound during the Hugh Padgem (sp?) years either. His slapping drum sound is
>annoying to me. I prefer a fuller sound (listen to Phil on Archives...not
>just his style, which is better too, but the sound of his drums...awesome, I
>think).
>
>Greg
>
Greg, I don't have the CD's/Albums in front of me now, but at what
point did Genesis begin to co-produce with David Hentschel. I think
he was responsible for improving their sound greatly. I'm not sure
how much of ATTW3 and Duke had to do with different instrumentations,
and a "new" approach to Genesis.
>In article <372e107d...@news.mindspring.com>,
> spam-fre...@mindspring.com wrote:
>> gpen...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>
>> >I always wondered why the sound was so poor on Duke, though. Sound quality
>on
>> >Genesis albums seemed to get worse from ATOTT to Duke. You'd think with
>> >improved technology it would be the other way around.
>> >
>> >Greg
>> >
>>
>> I would guess you're not a David Hentschel fan, then?
>>
>> - David Martyn
>>
>
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Slubberdegullion
regarding WHodunnit - he said he was driving to the studio - listening to
the demo in the car - and automatically started singing
"I didnt....I didnt....I didnt do it!!!!!!!!!!!"
Fact!
I would have thought this reaction more appropriate to "Another Record"
which holds the dubious privilege of being the only Genesis song I have
programmed the CD player to skip - everytime.
--
Doug
"Does Earth Plug a Hole in Heaven...............
........Or Heaven Plug a Hole in Earth............"
Darren
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SMACCIO
The Lurker riddle could also be the planet Earth, considering the song is about
the environment.
And Whoddunnit?!?!?? I'd take anything off of FGTR before listening to
Whodunnit. With some exception, it isn't a difficult question.
Scott
"And the turtles of course...all turtles are free. As turtles and, maybe, all
creatures should be."
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The Purple Dinosaur
>7. Man On The Corner
> certainly
>doesn't sound like a Phil Collins solo song.
Try playing Roof Is Leaking back to back with this one and tell me it
doesn't sound like a Phil Collins solo song.
Interesting reading your thoughts on this album. Since its release I've
gone through many different feelings towards it, from general apethy to
really enjoying the new sound it produced. This diversity of opinion is
the case with this album more than any other.
Having 'found' Genesis just after Duke, this was the first 'new' album I
bought. After discovering their magnificance in buying all the pre Duke
stuff I was a bit taken aback when this one hit the 'deck'.
It certainly was a defining moment.
Regards
--
The Purple Dinosaur
J.E. Martin
>Hmmm...for some reason "Abacab" has always ranked as my least favorite
>"Phil" Genesis album. I found it a severe let down after "Duke", which I
>consider the best album ever by anyone.
Hmmm, well if you like Duke that much then Abacab was always going to
be a bit of a let down, wasn't it... ;)
Jon Martin.
"When angry, count to 10.
When very angry, swear." (Mark Twain)
StmWatch
>be a bit of a let down, wasn't it... ;)
>
What is with all of the Duke backlash? Personally, this is one of my favorite
albums by Genesis, including ALL eras of the band. Not to lash at other
albums, but, to my ears, Abacab is far less exciting, Genesis is inconsistent
over the course of a full album, Invisible Touch isn't even worth mentioning,
And Then There Were Three is a compilation of three solo albums, etc, etc.
Duke is a very exciting and diverse album, and its subsequent tour is one of
the best the band ever undertook.....or maybe I'm completely mad!!
Bill
Mark Rae
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J.E. Martin
>> Hmmm, well if you like Duke that much then Abacab was always
>>going to be a bit of a let down, wasn't it... ;)
>>
>
>What is with all of the Duke backlash? Personally, this is one of
>my favorite albums by Genesis, including ALL eras of the band. Not
>to lash at other albums, but, to my ears, Abacab is far less
>exciting, Genesis is inconsistent over the course of a full album,
>Invisible Touch isn't even worth mentioning, And Then There Were
>Three is a compilation of three solo albums, etc, etc. Duke is a
>very exciting and diverse album, and its subsequent tour is one of
>the best the band ever undertook.....or maybe I'm completely mad!!
>
>Bill
Whoa! Don't get me wrong. I was just making an irreverent
comment, not knocking Duke :) I agree with your assessment of the
albums above (apart from IT: How can Domino not be worth
mentioning?). Duke is certainly their best effort of the 80's.
StmWatch
>mentioning?).
Jon: I apologize for my oversight. Domino and The Brazilian are both great
pieces, as, indeed, are Feeding the Fire and Do The Neurotic (both outtakes
that should have been on Invisible Touch.) Overall though, I remain
unimpressed with this entry in the Genesis discography.
Bill
Roxanne and Tony
StmWatch wrote in message <19990507130659...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...
Hmm...the band obviously disagree with you, having included four songs from
IT on the setlist in the last tour -- more selections from any album save
CAS!
--Tony D.
Ian Wiles
<roxa...@black-hole.com> writes
>
>StmWatch wrote in message <19990507130659...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...
>>> How can Domino not be worth
>>>mentioning?).
>>
>>Jon: I apologize for my oversight. Domino and The Brazilian are both
>great
>>pieces, as, indeed, are Feeding the Fire and Do The Neurotic (both outtakes
>>that should have been on Invisible Touch.) Overall though, I remain
>>unimpressed with this entry in the Genesis discography.
Tonightx3 is a good un, it's been growing on me for a while now, but as
you say Domino is tops.
Cheers,
--
Ian Wiles
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bewtifulfreak
Dodo was the title of the preceeding song, yet they also had the song
Submarine (which was related to that track as well, if I recall correctly?).
Makes you wonder if that ambiguity wasn't intentional on their part.......
Mark Rae wrote in message ...
>Pacidy,
>
>Excellent post! I really like Abacab as well, though I don't listen to it
as
>much as some of the other albums. However, I'm convinced that the Lurker
>riddle is a submarine, as follows:
>
>"Clothes of brass":
>Brass is very common in the nautical world because of its resistence to
>corrosion.
>
>"Hair of brown":
>When submarines come to the surface, they are covered with all sorts of
>seaweed.
>
>"Seldom need to breathe":
>Submarines can stay under water for long periods.
>
>"Don't need no wings to fly":
>Submarines fly through the ocean without wings.
>
>"And a heart of stone":
>Uranium, the stone that powers the submarine's nuclear reactor.
>
>"And a fear of fire and water":
>The two worst enemies of a submarine. Water means a hull breach, and
>everyone drowns. Fire means all the oxygen aboard burns and everyone
>suffocates.
>
>Now, I can see how the above lines could also refer to a Dodo. However, the
>working titles for Dodo and Lurker were German I and II. This must refer to
>German U-boats, because the music itself doesn't sound German at all. Also,
>Lurker ends on the same music that Submarine begins with. Shame they didn't
>continue with it on the album, but they would probably have had to drop
>Another Record - oh what a shame that would have been!
bewtifulfreak
dn...@webtv.net wrote in message
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LOLOL.....I just know that's gonna be going through my head now whenever I
hear that song!
Ann
BoB
bewtifulfreak wrote in message ...
Don't do it Ann. You don't know what pain and anguish that I go throug ever
since Wot came out (oooh errr) with his "Arseholes Ignite" line in SR
<barsteward>
>
>Ann
>
>
BoB
Mark Rae
like "knob on a bus". I can't hear it any other way now!
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Erian Canlin
BoB wrote in message <7hgf50$85h$3...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Don't do it Ann. You don't know what pain and anguish that I go throug
ever
>since Wot came out (oooh errr) with his "Arseholes Ignite" line in SR
><barsteward>
I mentioned this problem to Ann last month, (no.... honest.... ask
her.....)
I was saying how Supper's Ready was my favourite song..... until the "our
souls ignite" part......
Then the visions of flaming farts completely shags up the atmosphere of the
song.....
Cheers Wot..... you hairy bastard!......... ;-)
Erian.
Wot Gorilla
>bewtifulfreak wrote in message ...
>.....I just know that's gonna be going through my head now whenever I
>>hear that song!
>Don't do it Ann. You don't know what pain and anguish that I go throug ever
>since Wot came out (oooh errr) with his "Arseholes Ignite" line in SR
><barsteward>
Ahem...sorry BoB!...as the prophet Harry Hill says...'tis the power of
suggestion'! :)
BTW...I've just returned from a trip to your (and Convenant's) neck of
the woods...a wedding in Perth - anywhere close to you's?
--
Wot Gorilla
BoB
Wot Gorilla wrote in message ...
22 miles as the crow flies (when I lived there, however, it's now 310 miles)
>--
>Wot Gorilla
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BoB
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Covenant
Wot Gorilla wrote in message ...
>BoB writes
>
>>bewtifulfreak wrote in message ...
>
>>.....I just know that's gonna be going through my head now whenever I
>>>hear that song!
>
>
>>Don't do it Ann. You don't know what pain and anguish that I go throug
ever
>>since Wot came out (oooh errr) with his "Arseholes Ignite" line in SR
>><barsteward>
>
>Ahem...sorry BoB!...as the prophet Harry Hill says...'tis the power of
>suggestion'! :)
>
>BTW...I've just returned from a trip to your (and Convenant's) neck of
>the woods...a wedding in Perth - anywhere close to you's?
Christ...
I could Spit and hit Perth...
Why didntcha drop me a line!!??
(BTW... I don't blame you for the arseholes line... I *always* thought it
sounded like that!)
Covenant.
A Man Slowly Getting His Shit Together Again
Wot Gorilla
>Wot Gorilla wrote in message ...
>>BTW...I've just returned from a trip to your (and Convenant's) neck of
>>the woods...a wedding in Perth - anywhere close to you's?
>
>
>
>Christ...
>I could Spit and hit Perth...
>Why didntcha drop me a line!!??
Er, because I was warned of your excessive spitting habit!...and your
unusual collection...
>A Man Slowly Getting His Shit Together
Ahem! ;)
--
Wot Gorilla
Covenant
Wot Gorilla wrote in message ...
>Covenant <cove...@joelamb.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>
>>Wot Gorilla wrote in message ...
>
>>>BTW...I've just returned from a trip to your (and Convenant's) neck of
>>>the woods...a wedding in Perth - anywhere close to you's?
>>
>>
>>
>>Christ...
>>I could Spit and hit Perth...
>>Why didntcha drop me a line!!??
>
>Er, because I was warned of your excessive spitting habit!...and your
>unusual collection...
>
>>A Man Slowly Getting His Shit Together
>
>Ahem! ;)
Hey man.... It's good shit !!
; ' )
Covenant.
A Man With Far Too Much .........Nnnnnnnno.........
Chomz78
listen to it over and over and over...well i do! i do because it is soooo
short! time flies when having fun!
AToTT does the same thing.... and hour becomes a min! great for long car
trips!
Chomz
"You got a tux on, nothing's changed, you got a tux on
Lucky man with a tux on, you're still the same with a tux on"
--- Fish ---