question about the jackson tapes
Dirk
they sound great, whats the deal with it, is the a place where you can
download them completely???
dirk
Buck Dharma
Sure, just snd a request to thebanks....@thefarm.co.uk and he'll send
copies right out.
--
"I said it was an upgrade. I didn't say it was better."
Paul H
The 'Jackson Tapes' (so called because they were made specially for a
(BBC radio?) documentary about a painter called Jackson) were newly
discovered (in a loft I think!) a few years ago - they were going to be sold
by auction until someone representing the band I believe stepped in and took
ownership (I presume they made an offer he couldn't refuse) of the unique
tapes - the whole thing is shrouded in mystery - where are the tapes - who
has them - what are release plans? Who knows?
I'm sure others here can fill in more gaps in the story :-)
--
Paul Hedges
U.K.
Nobody needs to discover me, I'm back again
http://www.hedges010.freeserve.co.uk/Genesis/Genesisandsolo.htm
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> You are right they do sound fantastic.
>
> The 'Jackson Tapes' (so called because they were made specially for a
> (BBC radio?) documentary about a painter called Jackson) were newly
> discovered (in a loft I think!) a few years ago - they were going to be
sold
> by auction until someone representing the band I believe stepped in and
took
> ownership (I presume they made an offer he couldn't refuse) of the unique
> tapes - the whole thing is shrouded in mystery - where are the tapes - who
> has them - what are release plans? Who knows?
>
> I'm sure others here can fill in more gaps in the story :-)
> Paul Hedges
Did'nt someone say Tony has them??
Lamblies~
Willem Beens
EDITED BY TIM JONES
GENESIS REVELATIONS
Long-lost first concept work found!
In addition to the discovery of a pre-Genesis acetate featuring
Phil Collins and a whole cache of related memorabilia and photographs
(detailed elsewhere in this issue), we've got another startling Genesis
revelation for you: a four-song reel-to-reel tape of previously-unheard
demos that were the band's first attempt to write a conceptual piece of
work.
The tape dates from January 1970 and features the line-up of Peter Gabriel
(vocals), Mike Rutherford (guitar/bass), Tony Banks (keyboards), Anthony
Phillips (guitar) and John Mayhew (drums). The recordings are of studio
quality and include segments which were later reworked for milestone albums
such as "Trespass" and 'The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway". What's more, the
reel is on offer to the highest bidder!
After their first album "From Genesis To Revelation" (released in March
1969) sold all of 649 copies, that November Genesis took up an offer to live
rent-free for six months in a farmhouse cottage on National Trust land near
Dorking, Essex (Surrey - ed), that was owned by the parents of their old
chum Richard MacPhail. Years later, Mike Rutherford related to Genesis
associate Armando Gallo that the house was the perfect environment to hone
their writing and playing skills. According to Genesis chronicler Alan
Hewitt, the band recorded "a plethora of pieces, many of which are now sadly
lost'. Some were resurrected for the 1998 "Archive" box set, but others have
remained elusive - until now.
Among the songs written at the MacPhail cottage late in 1969 were four that
Tony Banks singled out as exceptional. He remembered that a BBC TV producer
was looking for a band to write music for a documentary about an obscure
painter. We can reveal that this was Mick Jackson, whose subject matter was
often provocative and sexually charged, including images of bondage and
domination.
The programme producer had heard about Genesis and decided to check them
out. As Banks recounted, the band wrote four numbers that were "incredibly
strong stuff", although he didn't elaborate about their subject matter.
On the evidence of the recently-surfaced tape, one of the tunes included a
part of "Looking For Someone", the opening number of their second album,
"Trespass" (1970). Another became "Anyway" - one of the highlights of the
group's magnum opus, "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" (1974). In addition,
there was an acoustic version of the classic "The Musical Box", and a number
called "Peace" that would never be reworked. It is these seminal recordings
that are now up for auction.
Also, as Peter Gabriel recalled for Gallo, it was the founder-member of the
Yardbirds, Paul Samwell-Smith then producing
Cat Stevens and who went on to work with Carly Simon, Jethro Tull and future
Genesis guitarist Steve Hackett - who produced this Genesis session at the
BBC's Shepherds Bush studios. Even more intriguingly, it turns out that the
four pieces of music formed a concept piece in distinct "Movements", all
inspired by the work of Mick Jackson, which sheds a whole new light on the
origins and intent of the compositions.
In the event, the prospective documentary film never got past the planning
stage. But a box marked "Genesis Plays Jackson" containing the
all-but-forgotten 7 1/2-inch reel-to-reel tape - which had sat in a barn in
Europe for some 15 years -and four pages of accompanying handwritten notes
about the film, passed into the hands of their Australia-based owner, who
was a friend of a studio technician involved.
The tunes were recorded on 9th January 1970, and run for a total of 15
minutes, showcasing Genesis' impressive new prog sound.
As the film notes indicate, the four songs were to accompany visuals
depicting "Provocation", "Frustration", "Manipulation" and "Resignation" -
all trademark Jackson themes.
The first number, "Provocation" (later reprised as "Looking For Someone"),
features rolling keyboard passages from Banks. The second song,
"Frustration" (reworked as "Anyway") lasts for 3.19 and is a superb slice
of period Genesis. Banks' piano intro is followed by a classy Gabriel vocal,
before a flute and mellow keys take over. The latter two instrumentals
feature "The Musical Box" theme and a reflective tune that opens with
acoustic guitar and keyboard (titled "Peace" or, according to the notes,
"Resignation").
The film outline also shows that "Provocation", with its phrases and gaps,
was meant to establish the theme of Mick Jackson and his paintings. Then
there was to be "the sleazy bit introducing the sex hang-up theme", followed
by some "heavy rock of stimulation" and "sensual images".
"Frustration" was to follow - that "of not being able to get there; sparking
off, the sublimation bit of painting". In addition, the band were to emote
"teasing" with "unresolved music, if needs be (with) more dissonance, more
contrast in tempo, wider crescendo". What they came up with was the
embryonic "Anyway", albeit in a different key, with the composition changing
after the vocal passages.
The song's original lyrics appear to have been as follows:
Frustration
Little be no flesh to dig my teeth in bone,
You are the long-nosed queen,
Floating up and down.
Get away.
I am the mad, mad scientist,
Soon I'll build the perfect female friend,
To comfort me, to satisfy,
Programmed just to please.
Anyway, you are the one for me,
Switching on and off.
Woman, body soft and warm,
Stroking furry fingers on the micro-mesh.
Follow me.
I am the mad, mad scientist,
Who's power can turn Medusa's head to stone,
Destroy the blast, dangling from a chain.
I say, 'what's the use'?
"Manipulation" was to represent: "1. man manipulates girl in lovemaking; 2.
technology in girl's form". Indeed, the piece was to feature "sparking from
(a) power cable" in synch with film clips from The Son Of Frankenstein and
Barbarella, which the notes' author thought (along with Alphaville and
Metropolis) should conjure up the desired images for the viewer. This third
movement was to be "intercut with tossing hair, facial grimace and violent
lovemaking" - which puts "The Musical Box" in a new light!
Finally, "Resignation" was to be "beautiful, romantic stuff for acceptance,
with jarring and reoccurring phantasies (sic) as porno memories flood back".
The instructions concluded, "the problem is left in the air".
Clearly, the documentary would have been an experimental, risqué venture,
and this probably doomed it from the start. However, it's interesting to
note that, had the film been made, it was supposed to have numerous elements
that are reflective of the times, particularly in the visual arts. These
were "birds (presumably, from its context, not the ornithological kind),
technology, religious rites, the paintings, the influence of technology on
art, new materials, the imposition of plastic, synthetic materials on the
female form". In particular, Metropolis-like reference was made to
"changing her (woman) into an inanimate shell of cosmetics, straps,
plastics, nylon, etc, from which the real personality is extracted as no
longer relevant".
Further, the concept of "the madman scientist" was to be at the heart of the
work (as is clearly evident in the lyrics of "Frustration"), with "lots more
stuff on the technological changes in image reproduction" and graphic
design, such as the concept of the "perfect dot". There were also to be
"computers feeding out shapes on screens from programs" and the futuristic
notion of "light pencils making sterile birds on screens, etc".
Other insights into Genesis' work can be gleaned from film instructions
like, "original stumuli will be portrayed by complex filming . . . looking
at monitors all displaying (a) clothed girl, one breaking up and distorting
to unclothe her . . . plastics factory - falsies, plastic boots, little toy
dolls firing out of moulds"! These would sit alongside "church icons,
religious rite, undressing rites, organ manuals, manipulating puppets, girl
getting on the bondage gear of suspenders etc., continuing to dress herself
in electrodes and transducers". You get the picture!
The "Genesis Plays Jackson" treasure trove is being sold via:
dragon...@ozemail.com.au
Willem Beens
http://members.home.nl/wbeens
Paul H <hed...@freenetname.co.uk> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> You are right they do sound fantastic.
>
> The 'Jackson Tapes' (so called because they were made specially for a
> (BBC radio?) documentary about a painter called Jackson) were newly
> discovered (in a loft I think!) a few years ago - they were going to be
sold
> by auction until someone representing the band I believe stepped in and
took
> ownership (I presume they made an offer he couldn't refuse) of the unique
> tapes - the whole thing is shrouded in mystery - where are the tapes - who
> has them - what are release plans? Who knows?
>
> I'm sure others here can fill in more gaps in the story :-)
> --
> Paul Hedges
> U.K.
> Nobody needs to discover me, I'm back again
> http://www.hedges010.freeserve.co.uk/Genesis/Genesisandsolo.htm
>
>
> "Dirk" <summ...@pig-online.de> wrote in message
> news:bkgg2e$o4p$1...@online.de...
> > i just listened to the mp3´s of the jackson tapes at
Mike Cohn
Where on this website can you find these mp3s??
Mike