FOUR Sides Live?!?
GirgentiJ
Recently I was updating my Genesis CD collection to the remastered copies of
the older albums. I would peiodically bring over a few to the trader CD store
that gives the most cash for used CD's, and then go to another CD store to buy
the remastered copy. I just got the remastered copy of Three Sides Live, but
the fourth side(2nd half of disk 2) has changed! It used to have a few studio
songs (Me and Virgil, Evidence of Autumn, etc.), but the remastered copy has
more LIVE songs (One for the Vine, Fountain of Salmacis, It/Watcher of the
Skies). Not that I mind these "new" live songs, I just miss my one studio
side. Has anyone else had this experience? Or do I have some freak CD? Can
I get the studio side songs anywhere else besides going back to the used CD
dealer who I sold my copy of the CD to? Any help would be appreciated.
Please e-mail. Thanks.
-Jeff
Girg...@aol.com
Rob
girg...@aol.com (GirgentiJ) wrote:
> side. Has anyone else had this experience? Or do I have some freak CD? Can
> I get the studio side songs anywhere else besides going back to the used CD
> dealer who I sold my copy of the CD to? Any help would be appreciated.
You have 3 choices....
(1) go back to the used CD dealer and buy your copy back
(2) wait until 2010 when the third boxed set finally appears
as they've been specifically mentioned for inclusion
(3) pirate the hell out of the missing tracks while you wait.
Personally, I haven't done any of these things myself but I never
actually had an unremastered 3SL.
Rob
ku...@ties.org - http://darkknight.net/~raindog
BassPlyr23
You did NOT get a "freak" CD. What you got was the remastered "3 Sides Live",
which is the original EUROPEAN release. Only the original AMERICAN version of
3SL has the studio tracks. You'll have to buy back your original 3SL CDs.
You see, I was smart. I kept both versions. :)
Jean-Pierre Gagnon
Is the original 3SL still available on cd (new, of course)?
JPG
Steven Sullivan
Jean-Pierre Gagnon (mem...@agf.fr) wrote:
: Is the original 3SL still available on cd (new, of course)?
: JPG
No.
bc stearns
Shawn Malone wrote:
>
> girg...@aol.com (GirgentiJ) wrote:
>
> >Recently I was updating my Genesis CD collection to the remastered copies of
> > the older albums. I would peiodically bring over a few to the trader CD store
> > that gives the most cash for used CD's, and then go to another CD store to buy
> > the remastered copy. I just got the remastered copy of Three Sides Live, but
> > the fourth side(2nd half of disk 2) has changed! It used to have a few studio
> > songs (Me and Virgil, Evidence of Autumn, etc.), but the remastered copy has
> > more LIVE songs (One for the Vine, Fountain of Salmacis, It/Watcher of the
> > Skies). Not that I mind these "new" live songs, I just miss my one studio
> > I get the studio side songs anywhere else besides going back to the used CD
> > dealer who I sold my copy of the CD to? Any help would be appreciated.
> You do not have a freak copy! This is the new version!
> As far as I know, the Remaster is the current version available. I
> would head back to the used shop, posthaste my friend! Personally, I
> own both versions. I got the remastered one first, then found the
> original at a used shop. I have seen the original pop up at a few
> conventional stores, but not recently. So go forth and gather "3
> Sides" in abundance!
>
> Bass
>
> "You can squeeze a little grease
> And our troubles will soon run away."
Take Bass's advice and run back to the used record dealer.
Last I heard, the plan was to re-release the studio side of 3SL on the
future (far, far, far into the future) box set. Mind you, there are
reportedly going to be three box sets once it's all said and done. The
first one, which is taking forever to hit the market, supposedly deals
with the Peter Gabriel era of Genesis.
The material on 3SL, of course, has Phil behind the mic, which means it
won't be appearing until the second or third box set. All this means
you're in for one hell of a long wait for the studio side of 3SL unless
you go out and find a used copy. Good luck.
- bc stearns
Steven Sullivan
Jester (jes...@deltanet.com) wrote:
: When Three Sides Live was originally released, there were two versions:
: The US version, which contained the fourth studio side (as the title
: described), and the UK version which had a fourth live side, containing
: songs from the Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering tours.
The Bruford stuff is from the Trick tour, but I think "Fountain of
Salmacis' and 'One for the Vine' are from either the Then There Were Three
or a later tour, not the Wind and Wuthering tour. Someone correct me if
I'm mistaken.
Jester
When Three Sides Live was originally released, there were two versions:
The US version, which contained the fourth studio side (as the title
described), and the UK version which had a fourth live side, containing
songs from the Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering tours. I don't
know why they did this, but it happened. When they remastered the CD's,
they used the UK version for both UK and US releases, saving the studio
side (which were actually songs that were left off of Abacab) for the
upcoming 3 boxed sets. The first will contain the Peter Gabriel years,
including a live version of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. The second
will supposedly be from when Gabriel left the band up til around 1980,
and the third will be 1980 onward. All sets will contain b-sides and
various studio outtakes and live recordings. You'll probably see the
fourth "studio side" on the last boxed set, which probably won't be
released for a few years.
Bernhard Fabricius
Steven Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote in article
<64t4ep$7f...@beaker.nit.gwu.edu>...
> Jester (jes...@deltanet.com) wrote:
>
> : When Three Sides Live was originally released, there were two versions:
> : The US version, which contained the fourth studio side (as the title
> : described), and the UK version which had a fourth live side, containing
> : songs from the Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering tours.
>
> The Bruford stuff is from the Trick tour, but I think "Fountain of
> Salmacis' and 'One for the Vine' are from either the Then There Were
Three
> or a later tour, not the Wind and Wuthering tour. Someone correct me if
> I'm mistaken.
Nah, you're spot on. It's only It/Watcher of the Skies that dates back from
the Bruford/Hackett days. You even hear the same style of moanin' and
groanin' at the end that you can hear on the one other released Bruford-era
track on Seconds Out: Cinema Show.
As to the previous question regarding why the UK version of 3 sides live is
actually 4 sides live: The Studio-tracks were released as an extended play
single, and I guess it was decided that the long suffering fans in the UK
at least should be spared yet another release of the "Mother of all
Stinkers", Me & Virgil.
The confusion in europe is complete: I have TWO double-CD's called Three
Sides Live on the Charisma label with the SAME catalogue number (and,
incidently, completely screwed up booklets). However, one is the Euro/US
version with the studio tracks, and the other is the UK version with the
lives tracks, including the infamous tracking-error which turns One for the
Vine into two (albeit continuous) tracks, so that you cannot index
It/Watcher of the Skies directly. They look the same, except that the back
label is pink on the UK version. Sigh.
Doesn't matter. I always play the lot.
Cheers
Bear™
Marco Soijer
(snap) >... the UK version which had a fourth live side, containing
>songs from the Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering tours. I don't
>know why they did this, but it happened.
Only in the UK, an EP titled 'Three times three' (or '3 times 3', I'm not
sure) had been released prior to the live album. That's why 'Three sides
live' contained actually four live sides in the UK.
Marco
Francois Marceau
> Shawn Malone wrote:
>
>
> When Three Sides Live was originally released, there were two versions:
> The US version, which contained the fourth studio side (as the title
> songs from the Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering tours. I don't
> know why they did this, but it happened.
The reason they did that was that the studio tracks had alreagy been
released in the UK as B-sides, or as in the case of Paperlate, a single
in its own right (Called 3x3, with the band members imitating the
Beatles on the cover). In the US those songs had never been sold before
(except as imports I guess).
What I don't understand is this, since the UK version is THE definitive
version, why call it "Three Sides Lives" since it has 4 sides live. Is
it to pander to the americans (since they are the only ones who got the
4th studio side)?? Why not rename the album as ELP did when they
re-released "ELP - In Convert" as a double live CD, they changed the
name of the album to "Works Live".
Francois Marceau
Tim Reinke
I got the same disc - with the 4th live side (sounds great, by the way).
You should be able to find the 'old' version in most record stores, if not,
you can always order it.
tim
Shawn Malone
girg...@aol.com (GirgentiJ) wrote:
>Recently I was updating my Genesis CD collection to the remastered copies of
> the older albums. I would peiodically bring over a few to the trader CD store
> that gives the most cash for used CD's, and then go to another CD store to buy
> the remastered copy. I just got the remastered copy of Three Sides Live, but
> the fourth side(2nd half of disk 2) has changed! It used to have a few studio
> songs (Me and Virgil, Evidence of Autumn, etc.), but the remastered copy has
> more LIVE songs (One for the Vine, Fountain of Salmacis, It/Watcher of the
> Skies). Not that I mind these "new" live songs, I just miss my one studio
> side. Has anyone else had this experience? Or do I have some freak CD? Can
> I get the studio side songs anywhere else besides going back to the used CD
> dealer who I sold my copy of the CD to? Any help would be appreciated.
> Please e-mail. Thanks.
>
>-Jeff
>Girg...@aol.com
Jeff,
abacab
I had the same experience
help would be nice
aba...@micro-net.com
GirgentiJ <girg...@aol.com> wrote in article
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GirgentiJ
Would anyone be willing to tape the US studio side and send it to me? I can't
stomach the idea of buying back the same CD I just sold.
Jeff
Girg...@aol.com
CryingMask
Because they're always making references to the number of members in the group.
Seconds Out, And Then There Were Three, Three Sides Live, and even Phil's live
video, Nine(or was it ten?) Serious Guys and One Even More Serious Gal, are
just something they do. It's a gimmick, people!