FAQ repost
Gary Best
Apologies if this is the second time people have seen it, but my server
didn't pick it up the first time *shrug*
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Quick note from me - be useful to have a bit of ascii art up here saying
something unoriginal like "Genesis" and as I'm useless at that sort of
thing - volunteers please! :-)
The alt.music.genesis FAQ - Last changed - 17th September 1997
The Paperlate FAQ is on the WWW at :
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(*) means the section has been updated since last month.
Quick Disclaimer - This FAQ is by no means official and should not be
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1) What's the latest news/whispers on :
i) Genesis (*)
ii) Phil Collins
iii) Steve Hackett (*)
iv) Other (ex)members
2) What's this is I hear about a box set(s)?
3) How do I subscribe/unsubscribe from Paperlate?
4) Are there any good Genesis/related web sites, is there an official
web site, and where can I find the lyrics to...?
5) My remaster of Second's Out/Three Sides Live etc..has a mistake, is
it just my copy of the CD or is this on all of them? (Or "The
remasters aren't really definitive are they?")
6) My copy of 3SL has different tracks on than other copies I've seen,
why
is this?
7) What are the crowd chanting at the end of The Musical Box on seconds
out?
8) What is Phil singing at the end of Los Endos?
9) Are there any polls which I can enter about Genesis?
10) Where can I find nearly everything I want to know about Genesis?
(Also known as "Where did the discography go??")
11) What does ABACAB mean?
12) When is the remastered Trespass coming out?
13) Who is Richard MacPhail? Is he dead?
14) Was "In The Air Tonight" based on a murder Phil witnessed?
15) Who is Gabble Ratchet? And just was is Supper's Ready all about?
16) Are there any Genesis tribute bands? (*)
17) Are there plans for another reunion?
18) What is the "Duck" on Duke?
19) In "Counting Out Time" is it "Put" or "Take it away Mr Guitar"?
20) Is there a Phil Collins mailing list?
21) What do the lyrics in the song "Dodo/Lurker" mean?
22) What does the title of the live album "Seconds Out" mean?
23) What is the song "Mama" about?
24) What does the term "Paperlate" mean?
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1) What's the latest news/whispers on :
NB : Some of the news may not, as yet, have been officially confirmed by
Hit & Run/Atlantic Records/Virgin Records etc..so no going phoning them
up to see if all this is true! You'll find all the official news on
Paperlate the minute it's released. Meanwhile, read on...
i) Genesis
It's finally arrived, the new album from Genesis "Calling All Stations"
There are 11 tracks on the album :
Calling All Stations 5:46
Congo 4:51
Shipwrecked 4:24
Alien Afternoon 7:52
Not About Us 4:39
If That's What You Need 5:13
The Dividing Line 7:44
Uncertain Weather 5:29
Small Talk 5:02
There Must Be Some Other Way 7:54
One Man's Fool 8:47
The first single to be released from the new album will be "Congo" -
this was released on August 11th in Europe as only one format :
GENSD12 :
Congo (Edit) 3:13
Papa He Said 4:07
Banjo Man 4:20
The single was in the UK on September 15th in two formats :
1) GENDG12 : Digipak
Congo (Edit)
Papa He Said
Banjo Man
2) GENDX12 :
Congo
Second Home By The Sea (Edit)
CD Rom Information
It is not known what format(s) will be released elsewhere - if any.
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Tour news - Genesis will start their world tour in North America/Canada
in November, they will then go over to Europe early in 1998 and then
back for a bigger tour of the USA in the Spring. Hopefully tours of
South America, Asia and the rest of the world will follow.
Tour line-up :
Tony Banks - Keyboards
Mike Rutherford - Guitars/Bass
Ray Wilson - Vocals
Nir Z - Drums
Anthony Drennan - Guitars/Bass
Known dates :
First date will be on November 5th somewhere in upstate New York
UK tour :
Most dates for the UK tour have had to be rescheduled. Tickets already
purchased are still vaild.
Other known dates are :
1998 :
February :
4) Mannheim - Maimarkthalle
5) Leipzig - Messehalle 7
8) Metz
10) Dortmund - Westfalenhalle
12) Stuttgart - Schleyerhalle
20) Lyon
23) Paris-Bercy
25) Birmingham - NEC (Stays the same)
26) Birmingham - NEC (Stays the same)
27) London - Earl's Court (Stays the same)
March :
1) Glasgow - SECC (was 29th January)
2) Newcastle - Arena (was 30th January)
3) Cardiff - CIA (was 27th January)
5) Cardiff - CIA (New show!)
6) Manchester - NYNEX (was 28th January)
27) Munich - Olympiahalle
28) Erfurt - Messehalle
USA and other Europe dates are unknown at this time as some places are
still under negotiation.
ii) Phil Collins
Phil's latest album "Dance Into The Light" is out now.
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DANCE INTO THE LIGHT
Formats: CD/Cassette
Catalogue Nos. : 06301-16000-2/4
Tracklisting:
1) Dance Into The Light
2) That's What You Said
3) Lorenzo
4) Just Another Story
5) Love Police
6) Wear My Hat
7) It's In Your Eyes
8) Oughta Know By Now
9) Take Me Down
10) The Same Moon
11) River So Wide
12) No Matter Who
13) The Times They Are A-Changin'
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A third single from the album was released in Germany and Australia :
1. No Matter Who (Album version)
2. In The Air Tonight (Unplugged version)
3. Both Sides Of The Story (Unplugged version)
The catalogue number is :
EW087CD WE 739
A fourth single has also been released in Germany and Australia and is
now (sadly!) available in the UK :
1. Wear my hat
2. Wear my hat (Edited hat dance mix)
3. Wear my hat (Hat dance mix)
4. Wear my hat (Wear my dub)
Cat Number : 0630 19073 - 2 WE 739
(No that single is *not* a joke!)
Phil has been signed to write the songs for Walt Disney Pictures'
upcoming feature-length animated adaptation of "Tarzan". The movie is
currently in preproduction and is due for release sometime in 1998. Phil
has already written 3 songs for the film and is getting involved in the
soundtrack.
A few other Phil Collins releases are in the pipeline for later this
year but it is uncertain as to what they will be.
Remaining tour dates :
October:
7) Barcelona - Palau Sant Jordi
9) Milan - The Forum
10) Lyon - Halle Tony Garnier
12) Geneva - Arena De Geneve
13) Geneva - Arena De Geneve
15) Zurich - Hallenstadion
16) Zurich - Hallenstadion
18) Berlin - Deutschlandhalle
19) Berlin - Deutschlandhalle
21) Frankfurt - Festhalle
22) Frankfurt - Festhalle
23) Frankfurt - Festhalle
25) Stockholm - Globe Arena
26) Oslo - Oslo Spektrum
28) Rotterdam - Ahoy
29) Rotterdam - Ahoy
31) Hannover - Messehalle
November :
1) Hannover
3) Gent - Flanders Expo
4) Gent - Flanders Expo
6) Birmingham - NEC
7) Birmingham - NEC
9) Newcastle - Arena
10) Newcastle - Arena
18) Manchester - Nynex
19) Manchester - Nynex
21) Dortmund - Westfalenhalle
22) Dortmund - Westfalenhalle
23) Dortmund - Westfalenhalle
25) Stuttgart - Schelyer Halle
26) Stuttgart - Schelyer Halle
28) Munich - Olympiahalle
29) Munich - Olympiahalle
December :
1) Vienna - Stadthalle
2) Prague - Sportovni Hala
4) Leipzig - Messehalle
5) Leipzig - Messehalle
6) Leipzig - Messehalle
8) Paris - Palais Omnisports
9) Paris - Palais Omnisports
11) Dortmund - Westfalenhalle
13) London - Earls Court
14) London - Earls Court
16) London - Earls Court
17) London - Earls Court
iii) Steve Hackett
Steve has just released his latest album - "A Midsummer Night's Dream".
A new rock album from him is said to be in the works.
Steve's "Genesis Revisited" will be released in Europe on September
22nd.
Differences to the Japanese edition are the omission of "Riding The
Colossus" and the addition of "Los Endos"
The end of September will see the re-release of some Hackett CDs :
Bay Of Kings
Momentum
Time Lapse
Till We Have Faces
There Are Many Sides to the Night (first official commercial release)
An official Steve Hackett web site is also in the works!
iv) Other (ex)members :
Mike Rutherford, Tony Banks and Ray Wilson - Are all working on
promoting the new Genesis album (Bet that was a surprise!).
Peter Gabriel - Peter is currently recording his new solo album, due for
release sometime this side of eternity (Before the first Genesis box set
in that case!).
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2) What's this is I hear about a box set(s)?
A number of Genesis box sets are currently being planned. This first box
set will cover the Peter Gabriel years - which is up to 1975, and
will include 4 CD's and a 72 page booklet. 2 of the CD's will be
entirely full of a whole concert from The Lamb tour, another CD will
cover the Selling England era, with live material and b sides.
There is a strong chance that it will be a "Limited Edition".
RELEASE DATE? - It seems as though the first box set has been delayed
until sometime in 1998 (Autumn at the earliest).
SINGLE NEWS - A newly recorded version of "The Carpet Crawl" is to be
released prior to the first box set. Peter and Phil have gone
back into the studio with Mike and Tony to record this new version. It
will feature Peter on vocals and Phil on drums. This version will not be
on the final box set.
Armando Gallo is reissuing his Genesis books to coincide with the
release
of the Genesis box set. A CD-Rom of Gallo's Genesis material is also in
the works.
AT LAST - It seems we have a full track listing for the first box set!
Here it is :
CD 1 and CD 2 : Live version of The Lamb
CD 3 :
Dancing With The Moonlit Knight - Live
Firth Of Fifth - Live
More Fool Me - Live
Supper's Ready - Live
I Know What I Like - Live
Stagnation - BBC Live Recording
Twilight Alehouse - Single B-Side 1973
Happy The Man - Single A-Side 1971
Watcher Of The Skies - Unreleased Single Version 1972
CD 4 :
In The Wilderness - Rough Mix Without Strings 1968
Shepherd - BBC Nightride 1970
Pacidy - BBC Nightride 1970
Let Us Now Make Love - BBC Nightride 1970
Going Out To Get You - Demo 1969
Dusk - Demo 1969
Build Me A Mountain - Rough Mix 1968
One Day - Demo 1968
Where The Sour Turns To Sweet - Demo 1968
In The Beginning - Demo 1968
The Magic Of Time - Demo 1968
Hey! - Demo 1968
Hidden In The World Of Dawn - Demo 1968
Sea Bee - Demo 1968
The Mystery Of The Flannan Isle Lighthouse - Demo 1968
Hair On The Arms And Legs - Demo 1968
She Is Beautiful - Demo 1967 (Early Version Of "The Serpent")
Image Blown Out - Demo 1967
Patricia - Demo 1968 (Early Version Of "In Hiding")
All the tracks in the box set are being digitally remastered. There are
also a number of other box sets being planned :
Volume 2 - proposed Autumn 1999 - covering the period from 1975 - 1980
Volume 3 - proposed Autumn 2000 - covering the period from 1981 onwards.
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4) Are there any good Genesis/related web sites, is there an official
web site, and where can I find the lyrics to...?
There is now an official Genesis web site at :
But if you're looking for something a little different, the best thing
is to
do a Search on something like Yahoo, here are some ideas for where to
visit :
"The Path Is Clear" is easily one of the best (if not *the* best)
Genesis and related web site out there. It has transcribed articles from
every era of Genesis as well as a bunch of links to other sites and also
the best bits from this mailing list! The address is :
http://www.uio.no/~tholter/genesis.html
If it's news you're after then my page is the one to go to (yes, I had
to plug it somewhere didn't I? :-). I update the news section on a very
regular basis and there's a chance that you could find news that you
missed or wasn't on paperlate. Also there are some core links to other
sites plus all the Genesis lyrics and lyrics to Tony, Mike and Phil's
solo stuff. The address is :
http://olohof.et.tudelft.nl/~gary/genesis.html
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5) My remaster of Second's Out/Three Sides Live etc..has a mistake, is
it just my copy of the CD or is this on all of them?
There were a number of mistakes in the so called "Definitive" remasters.
Here is a list of them :
Genesis Live :
The musicians credited on the back cover are Tony Banks, Peter Gabriel,
Mike Rutherford, John Mayhew and Anthony Phillips. This is obviously
wrong as Mayhew and Phillips left the band after "Trespass". Replace
them with Steve Hackett and that unknown drummer Phil Collins and you
have the correct line-up!
Selling England By The Pound :
The lyrics for "The Battle Of Epping Forest" are set out as Part 1,
After The Ordeal, and Part 2..whereas in fact all of those lyrics are
for only "The Battle Of Epping Forest", which is only in 1 part, and the
following instrumental is "After The Ordeal".
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway :
Fly On A Windshield/Broadway Melody Of 1974 are wrongly tracked..Fly
should finish after 2:44 and Broadway Melody should be 2:10 in length
not 0:33 as in the remaster...
A Trick Of The Tail :
On some copies, the first three songs on side 2 are wrongly credited.
They should be :
Robbery, Assault & Battery (Banks/Collins)
Ripples (Rutherford/Banks)
A Trick Of The Tail (Banks)
Seconds Out :
On some copies "The Musical Box" reads as "The Musical Fox" on the back
cover and even "The Musical Bow" in some copies!
Dance On A Volcano/Los Endos is wrongly tracked, Dance should finish
after 5:09 and not halfway through Los Endos as it does in the remaster!
Three Sides Live
The fourth side is VERY wrongly tracked! It should be :
One For The Vine
Fountain Of Salmacis
It/Watcher Of The Skies
and not :
One For The Vine part 1
One For The Vine part 2
Fountain Of Salmacis/It/Watcher Of The Skies.
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6) My copy of 3SL has different tracks on than other copies I've seen,
why
is this?
The original release in the US had a fourth side of :
Paperlate
You Might Recall
Me And Vigil
Evidence Of Autumn
Open Door
But the original UK release had :
One For The Vine
Fountain Of Salmacis
It/Watcher Of The Skies
The remastered version is the UK version and the US version is NOT
available in remastered format.
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7) What are the crowd chanting at the end of The Musical Box on Seconds
Out?
The French crowd are chanting "Une autre". This translates word-for-word
as "Another" (Une=a,an,one; autre=other), but properly it means
"encore".
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8) What is Phil singing at the end of Los Endos?
There's an angel standing in the sun.
There's an angel standing in the sun,
Freed to get back home.
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9) Are there any polls which I can enter about Genesis?
There used to be a monthly poll on Paperlate which has now ceased to be,
but you can see the results of previous polls at :
http://olohof.et.tudelft.nl/~gary/polls.html
There are always people willing to do polls on the mailing list though
:-)
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10) Where can I find nearly everything I want to know about Genesis?
Go to the wonderful Genesis discography at :
http://lighthouse.softbase.com/~scott/genesis.html
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11) What does ABACAB mean?
Taken from a radio interview :
Mike Rutherford : There were three bits of music in Abacab, and we
refered to them as "section a", "section b", and "section c"...and at
different times, they were in different order. We'd start with section
"a" and then have section "c"...and at one point in time, it spelled
Abacab. On the final version, it's not that it all, it's like
"Accaabbaac".
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12) When is the remastered Trespass coming out?
If you are in the UK or anywhere that the Virgin remasters are, look
harder! However, if you are in the US you will not find Trespass as a
remaster because Atlantic Records were unable to release it as MCA owns
the distribution rights.
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13) Who is Richard MacPhail? Is he dead?
Richard MacPhail made an appearance on the album Genesis Live. There is
a
picture of Richard on this album and it says "This album is dedicated to
Richard Macphail who left April, 1973." He is not dead! He recently
reappeared as backing vocalist on "Digging In The Dirt" from Peter
Gabriel's Us album, and more recently appeared on Steve Hackett's
"Genesis Revisited". He was originally in The Anon with Mike Rutherford
back at Charterhouse, and was a friend of the band and sound technician
until 1973, when he "left" to pursue other things.
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14) Was "In The Air Tonight" based on a murder Phil witnessed?
No, the lyrics for this song were all improvised bar one or two lines,
and Phil never witnessed a murder.
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15) Who is Gabble Ratchet? And just what is Supper's Ready all about?
Gabble Ratchet is not actually a person, apparently it is the sound of
wild geese that heralds the arrival of archangels (or something
similar).
As for Supper's Ready itself, this annotation comes from a program from
the Foxtrot or early Selling England tours :
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i) Lovers Leap
In which two lovers are lost in each other's eyes, and found
again transformed in the bodies of another male and female.
ii) The Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man
The lovers come across a town dominated by two characters: one a
benevolent farmer, and the other the head of a highly disciplined
scientific religion. The latter likes to be known as "The Guaranteed
Eternal Sanctuary Man" and claims to contain a secret new ingredient
capable of fighting fire. This is a falsehood, an untruth, a whopper
and a
taradiddle, or to put it in clearer terms; a lie.
iii) Ikhnaton and its-a-con and their band of merry men
Who the lovers see clad in greys and purples, awaiting to be
summoned out of the ground. At the G.E.S.M.'s command they pour forth,
from the bowels of the eearth, to attack all those without an up-to-date
"Eternal Life Licence" which were obtainable at the head office of the
G.E.S.M.'s religion.
iv) How Dare I Be So Beautiful ?
In which our intrepid heroes investigate the aftermath of the
battle and discover a solitary figure, obsessed by his own image. They
witness an unusual transmutation, and are pulled into their own
reflections
in the water.
v) Willow Farm
Climbing out of the pool, they are once again in a different
existence. They're right in the middle of a myriad of bright colours,
filled with all manner of objects, plants, animals and humans. Life
flows
freely and everything is mindlessly busy. At random, a whistle blows
and
every single thing is instantly changed into another.
vi) Apocalypse in 9/8 (Co-Starring the Delicious Talents of Wild Geese)
At one whistle the lovers become seeds in the soil, where they
recognise other seeds to be people from the world in which they had
originated. While they wait for Spring, they are returned to their old
world to see the Apolcalypse of St. John in full progress. The seven
trumpeteers cause a sensation, the fox keeps throwing sixes, and
Pythagoras
(a Greek extra) is deliriously happy as he manages to put exactly the
right
amount of milk and honey on his corn flakes.
vii) As Sure as Eggs is Eggs (Aching Mens' Feet)
Above all else an egg is an egg.
'And did those feet ..............' making ends meet.
(after the lyrics)
Jerusalem = place of peace.
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So now you know!
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16) Are there any Genesis tribute bands?
Yes! And there are a couple of excellent ones amongst them :
ReGenesis : Based in London, UK. They play songs from the Gabriel era of
Genesis (plus Ripples and Afterglow). Their full repertoire, (see I can
spell, honest! ;-) at the moment, consists of :
The Knife
The Musical Box
The Return Of The Giant Hogweed
The Fountain Of Salmacis
Watcher Of The Skies
Can-Utility And The Coastliners
Supper's Ready
Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
I Know What I Like
Firth Of Fifth
The Cinema Show
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Fly On A Windshield
Broadway Melody Of 1974
In The Cage
Back In NYC
The Carpet Crawlers
Slippermen (instrumental section)
Ripples
Los Endos (see I typed it right this time!)
Afterglow
Here Comes The Flood
ReGenesis upcoming gig dates :
September 26th - The Woodman, Sidcup
September 27th - The Oliver Twist, Colchester
October 3rd - The Cellar, South Shields
October 4th - The Robin Hood, Dudley
October 7th - Fibbers, York
October 8th - Cleethorpe Winter Gardens
October 9th - The Wheatsheaf, Stoke
October 10th - The Fleece and Firkin, Bristol
October 11th - The Wharf, Tavistock
October 12th - The Shepherds Bush Empire, London (Big show!)
October 17th - Rockhouse, Norwich
October 22nd - The Brook, Southampton
October 24th - Fat Sams, Mansfield
ReGenesis have also released a live album which has been officially
released in the UK but they are also selling it at gigs. The tracklist
is :
Watcher Of The Skies
Firth Of Fifth
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway/Fly On A Windshield/Broadway Melody Of
1974
In The Cage
Supper's Ready
I Know What I Like (studio)
Carpet Crawlers (studio)
The Musical Box : A very highly rated tribute band based in Canada, they
accurately depict shows from the Gabriel era, down to the costumes and
stage setup. They play the exact setlists that Genesis played in their
Nursery Cryme/Foxtrot tour and Selling England tour.
For more information go to :
http://www.magmacom.com/~yearwood
The Grand Parade : Yet another tribute band who perform both Genesis and
Steve
Hackett material. They are based in the USA. (Any more info on this band
would
be appreciated!!)
Invisible Touch : A new UK based tribute band who play music mainly from
the
era that Phil Collins was lead singer. Their current repertoire is :
In The Cage/In That Quiet Earth/Supper's Ready
Drum Solo/Los Endos
One For The Vine
In That Quiet Earth
Turn It On Again
Abacab
Dodo/Lurker
Home By The Sea/Second Home By The Sea
Invisible Touch
Jesus He Knows Me
I Can't Dance
Upcoming gigs :
October 11th - The Standard, Walthamstow
October 19th - The Grey Horse, Kingston
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17) Are there plans for another reunion?
Recently a few more reunion rumours have been cropping up. The first
seems
to have originated in Italy which states that Peter, Steve & Phil will
be rejoining Tony and Mike for a special reunion tour this summer
(1997),
this rumour is complete rubbish!
The second is one that says that Peter & Phil will be rejoining for a
special one-off reunion concert in the March of 1998 as part of the
Atlantic Records 50th anniversary celebration. At this moment in time it
is just a rumour, but technically it could happen...stay tuned!
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18) What is the "Duck" on Duke?
This quote "borrowed" from the discography!
Tony Banks: Uhm, It was this kind of, it was an attempt .. it was a
way of triggering... this was back in the early days, you know,
before technology could sort of give you all the things you wanted.
It was a way of triggering the, I think it was a Yamaha CS-80
synthesizer. We triggered it using Phil's voice. But he used it,
instead of --- this was trying to get a sort of brass sound on a
couple of tracks, particularly "Behind The Lines" --- and the way of
doing it was using a duck-call. You know, one of those duck-call
things you can get. We used that into the microphone, and it got
just the right kind of sound, so that we put it down that we played
a
"duck". We hoped a few people would ask a question about it ---
you're
the first person I think since the album was released who's asked us
about that! So there you go.
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19) In "Counting Out Time" is it "Put" or "Take it away Mr Guitar"?
After many a discussion and close listening it is now universally
thought that Peter Gabriel says :
"Honey get hip! It's time to unzip, to unzip, zip, zip-a-zip-a-zip.
Whipee!"
(Put it away Mr Guitar)
If anyone wants to prove this wrong (like a certain Mr Peter Gabriel ;-)
by all means do!! :-)
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20) Is there a Phil Collins mailing list?
Yes there is! It's called "Sussudio" and to subscribe send an email to :
with a message saying either :
subscribe sussudio
for the bounce list (every message individually), or :
subscribe sussudio-digest
for the digest (every message from the day in one large email)
To send an email to the mailing list, send it to :
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21) What do the lyrics in the song "Dodo/Lurker" mean?
In November 1991 someone actually phoned in to the Larry King Radio Show
and asked Genesis :
Question : "There's a song "Dodo/Lurker" which first appeared on
"Abacab", can you tell me what that song is all about?"
Tony : "God, it's a long time ago, I wrote that lyric...many years ago.
It was really more a, one of those kind of lyrics that wasn't supposed
to have too specific a meaning, like individual lines have meanings in
it. Erm, I can't remember particularly what was going on in my brain
there."
Larry King : "Abstract."
Tony : "Well it was, really was sort of stream of conciousness kind of
lyric really, I liked the sound of the words and you had this sort of
different images that came in. It was one of those songs that was
supposed to have a sort of, an image with each line that was supposed to
hit you."
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As for the Lurker riddle, I don't think even Tony knows the real answer
to that!
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22) What does the title of the live album "Seconds Out" mean?
"Seconds Out" is a term used in boxing e.g. "Seconds out, round 2!".
This could have a couple of meanings for the live album - it might mean
that it's the second live album, or more likely it means that they are
closing the first round of Genesis' existence by laying to rest a lot of
the old songs on this live album (remember "Supper's Ready" was not
performed again until 1982). There are lots of possible meanings and no
definitive answer as of yet.
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23) What is the song "Mama" about?
From an interview in 1983 called "Three into One" :
Phil Collins : "Our manager, when he first heard it, thought it was
about abortion, the kind of feeling of the, you know, the featus, if you
like, saying to the Mother 'Please give me a chance, can't you feel my
heart, don't take away my last chance', all those lyrics are in the song
but in fact what it is, is just about a young teenager that's got a
Mother fixation with a prostitute that he's just happened to have met in
passing and he has such a strong feeling for her and doesn't understand
why she isn't interested in him.
It's a bit like Niven in 'Moons of balloon', I don't know if you've read
that book, he's very young, just come out of cadet college or whatever,
and he meets this quite, you know, 45 year old prostitute who he has a
fantastic time with. He's special to her but it definitely can't go any
further than what it is and that's really what the song is about, with
sinister overtones."
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24) What does the term "Paperlate" mean?
"Paperlate" is a word shouted out by evening newspaper salesmen in
London to announce that the late edition of a newspaper is available.
It's as simple as that!
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Written, devised, directed, produced (etc etc) for alt.music.genesis by
Gary Best (Hey someone had to do it!).
Thanks to the numerous members of Paperlate who contributed to this FAQ,
especially Jack Beerman and Duncan Philips for the "Supper's Ready"
annotation
and solving the "Take/Put" argument respectively, Cindy Yan who *always*
checks this monster for mistakes, typos etc. (cheers Cindy!)
Most of all, thanks to Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Steve
Hackett, Ant Phillips, Mike Rutherford and Ray Wilson for making such
excellent music.
alan caylow
Thanks, Gary!