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"FF" is NOT the "official" nickname of the Foo Fighters

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Ben Winick

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Sep 17, 2002, 8:05:56 AM9/17/02
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"EXCLUSIVE TICKET OFFER TO SECRET FOOS SHOW IN SYDNEY"
"QUESTION: What is the surname of the Foo's bassplayer?"
both quotes courtesy of the "Official" Foo Fighters mailing list. One that
isn't run by the record company, but the fans that run the website (Schu,
Tym, Ed...) that keep in fairly constant contact with the band themselves.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Stan.


Ben Winick

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Sep 17, 2002, 8:32:58 AM9/17/02
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By the way, that message was not sent to claim that "the foos" was the
"official" nickname of the Foo Fighters. Call them what you want. The
message was merely sent out to disprove Stan's claim that "FF" is the only
correct nickname.

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Simon Reid

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Sep 17, 2002, 3:15:13 PM9/17/02
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On alt.music.foo-fighters, "Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com> wrote:

>By the way, that message was not sent to claim that "the foos" was the
>"official" nickname of the Foo Fighters. Call them what you want. The
>message was merely sent out to disprove Stan's claim that "FF" is the only
>correct nickname.
>

Yeah, suck on that Stan.

Tama Drummer

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Sep 17, 2002, 6:50:05 PM9/17/02
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FF stands for Fear Factory too
From Jamie--
Jamie's Drum Page www.bstuck.com/jamie
Foo Fighters Video Guide www.bstuck.com/foovids
Foo Fighters Equipment Archive www.foogear.8m.com

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The Rooster

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Those aren't fans, they're stalkers such as yourself.


Stan,
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"Every Picture Tells A Story" - Rod Stewart


The Rooster

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Sep 17, 2002, 11:12:55 PM9/17/02
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By fake fans such as yourself. You didn't give any kind of quote from the
band. You're lying your FAT ass off.


Stan,
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The Rooster

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You suck (and you lie.)
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The Rooster

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"Tama Drummer" <jamie_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> FF stands for Fear Factory too

"Running over the same old ground, what have we found
The same old fears
Wish you were here" - Pink Floyd


Ben Winick

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Sep 18, 2002, 2:29:43 AM9/18/02
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Since you LOVE to define words for us Stan, I figured I'd give you a
definition of my own. Websters defines the word "fan" as "An ardent
devotee; an enthusiast." Now, to me, if someone is devoted and enthusiastic
(those are the key words here) enough to make a website for a band they like
(especially one that's so thorough), that would make them a REAL fan, not a
"fake" fan as you put. As for me lying my "FAT" ass off, no, I'm not. What
I presented was a factual statement. You have no argument other than "I'm
right and your wrong" because you're a giant piece of crap that has to have
his way. Grow up dickweed.

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The Rooster

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Sep 18, 2002, 2:38:51 AM9/18/02
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"Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com>, "pretennabee" (tm) -

> Since you LOVE to define words for us Stan, I figured I'd give you a
> definition of my own. Websters defines the word "fan" as "An ardent
> devotee; an enthusiast."

Thank you for letting me know that I've been using the word "fan" correctly
(I thought I wasn't and I thought I was using my own definition for it, I
thought it was short for "fanatic".)


> Now, to me, if someone is devoted and enthusiastic

> (those are the key words here) enough to make a website for a band ...

There's another reasons to make a website (supposedly) for a band - in
particular - to pretend that you're a fan (when you're anything but.)


Stan,
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Ben Winick

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Sep 18, 2002, 2:49:56 AM9/18/02
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Now tell me, Stan... why would someone "pretend" to be a fan? It would make
no sense. It seems to me like you've just presented a "straw man" argument
because you have no good rebuttal. If you can somehow prove to me that
Schu, Tym, and Ed... hell... I'll even through myself in there... if you can
prove that we're not "real" fans (and not just some "straw man" argument
like "because you're lying"), I'll drop this argument right here and now,
but I gotta warn you, I'm pretty damn sure I'm a fan, and you'll be hard
pressed to find any true and hard proof that they aren't fans too.

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Ben Winick

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Sep 18, 2002, 2:54:10 AM9/18/02
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And just to let you know what you have to work with here Stan, I've seen the
Foo Fighters live 5 times, I have Dave, Nate and Taylor's autographs, I've
gotten each of their albums on the release date except the first one (got
that one two weeks after), I have all of their singles (import and
otherwise), I tape every appearance they make on TV, and I learned to play
guitar because of Dave Grohl. Thank you very much.

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The Rooster

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Sep 18, 2002, 2:56:44 AM9/18/02
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"Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Now tell me, Stan... why would someone "pretend" to be a fan?

Snake oil.


Stan,
www.thesequencers.com


The Rooster

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Sep 18, 2002, 2:57:43 AM9/18/02
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"Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> And just to let you know what you have to work with here Stan, I've seen
the
> Foo Fighters live 5 times, I have Dave, Nate and Taylor's autographs, I've
> gotten each of their albums on the release date except the first one (got
> that one two weeks after), I have all of their singles (import and
> otherwise), I tape every appearance they make on TV, and I learned to play
> guitar because of Dave Grohl. Thank you very much.

So how long have you been stalking the FF?


Stan,
www.thesequencers.com


Ben Winick

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Sep 18, 2002, 3:02:32 AM9/18/02
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No Stan, and I'll tell you why... there is no practical reason to deceive
anyone about being a fan. Now, I realize you're into this whole conspiracy
thing, but to me it just seems like while you think learning about the
conspiracy has opened your eyes, I say it's put blinders on you. The world
isn't cut and dry Stan. It's not black and white, good and evil. One
thing's for sure... you must have gotten the crap beat out of you a lot in
school to be so damned angry and suspicious.

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The Rooster

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Sep 18, 2002, 3:02:52 AM9/18/02
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"Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com>, total luser lies -

> there is no practical reason to deceive
> anyone about being a fan.

Bullshit.


Stan,
www.thesequencers.com


Ben Winick

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Sep 18, 2002, 8:37:32 AM9/18/02
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It's funny, you respond with intelligent remarks when I slip up on one or
two definitions (of words that most of the general public has never heard),
yet, when I present an air tight argument about the issue at hand, all you
have to say is "snake oil", "bullshit", and "how long have you been stalking
the FF?" Come on Stan, if you're gonna take the time to show off your
knowledge of English language technicalities, you could at least take the
time to present a good argument other than a picture of the Foo Fighters
logo (yes... I said logo, not nickname). Seriously... what would your
parents think of such a weak argument? I think Robert and Ruth would be
quite disappointed.


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Ingo Faulhaber

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Sep 18, 2002, 9:21:08 AM9/18/02
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"Tama Drummer" <jamie_...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> FF stands for Fear Factory too

That´s right, I think, there are many shirts, caps and other stuff from Fear
Factory merchandising, with different "FF" logos on it. In fact, Fear
Factory used the "FF" logos on all their albums. Over the years, the logo
changed, there are also shirts, with all Fear Factory "FF" logos in a row
with the text "History" under it.

If anyone wants to take a look, go to www.emp.de and search for "Fear
Factory".

CU
Ingo

The Rooster

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Sep 18, 2002, 8:17:09 PM9/18/02
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And there certainly was *NO* merchandise that said "foo" (only) available at
the Red Hots/FF show I went to (but I do recall "FF" marked merchandise on
the FF side, *NO* merchandise that said anything (other than Red Hot Chili
Peppers) other than "Red Hots" on the Red Hots side of it.

Also, it's vh for both Van Halen and Vertical Horizon.


Stan,
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>
> "Tama Drummer" <jamie_...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:LkOh9.7255$Y3.14...@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > FF stands for Fear Factory too
>

> That愀 right, I think, there are many shirts, caps and other stuff from

The Rooster

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Sep 18, 2002, 8:19:31 PM9/18/02
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"Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> yet, when I present an air tight argument about the issue at hand

You haven't had one of those. You're rewriting history again.


> I think Robert and Ruth would be
> quite disappointed.

How long have you been stalking me now?


Stan,
www.thesequencers.com


Ben Winick

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Sep 19, 2002, 8:24:06 AM9/19/02
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If by stalking you mean the 5 minutes I spent looking at your website,
seeing your home address posted on it (bright idea, jackass), the 5 seconds
it took me to think of the idea to creep you out (since I know from your
website how paranoid you are), the 30 seconds it took me to go to
www.whitepages.com and do a reverse search on your address, and the minute
it took me to write that message, I guess that would add up to about 6
minutes and 35 seconds of good quality stalking. Now if by stalking you
mean "To follow or observe (a person) persistently, especially out of
obsession or derangement," well, I'm afraid I haven't been stalking you at
all. The key word in that definition is "persistently" and I'm pretty sure
6 minutes and 35 seconds of thinking of a way to freak you out doesn't count
as being persistent. That, and I'm not obsessed or deranged... merely a
thorough practical joker.

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The Rooster

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"Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> If by stalking you mean the 5 minutes I spent looking at your website,
> seeing your home address posted on it

Sounds like you weren't looking at my website, I don't recall having my home
address posted on it.


> (bright idea, jackass), the 5 seconds
> it took me to think of the idea to creep you out (since I know from your
> website how paranoid you are)

So what website do you consider to be mine?


> the 30 seconds it took me to go to
> www.whitepages.com and do a reverse search on your address, and the minute
> it took me to write that message, I guess that would add up to about 6
> minutes and 35 seconds of good quality stalking. Now if by stalking you
> mean "To follow or observe (a person) persistently, especially out of
> obsession or derangement," well, I'm afraid I haven't been stalking you at
> all.

Bullshit.


Stan,
www.thesequencers.com


Ben Winick

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Sep 20, 2002, 2:26:58 AM9/20/02
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http://www.thesequencers.com/otherpages/ocs/handwriting.jpg
If I'm not mistaken, www.thesequencers.com is your website... at least it's
part of your signature and you're name is mentioned a few times.

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The Rooster

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Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.thesequencers.com/otherpages/ocs/handwriting.jpg
> If I'm not mistaken, www.thesequencers.com is your website... at least
it's
> part of your signature and you're name is mentioned a few times.

It seems I did post that on my webspace, forgot about that page. But the
reason I didn't have a problem with posting my address back then, is that my
address was already out in the public domain (I had already made that
mistake back when I was naive about the net.) Which is why that (probably
you) netzi (see the page www.thesequencers.com/otherpages/ocs ) had my
address to be able to send that little card to me. And, since that page
isn't linked from my website anywhere that I recall, you had to search for
it. So you've spent more time researching my webspace than you're letting
on.


Stan,
www.thesequencers.com


Ben Winick

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Sep 20, 2002, 2:53:42 AM9/20/02
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Actually, I believe I was looking at the Ben Folds newsgroup sometime last
week and found a post of yours to this page:
http://www.thesequencers.com/otherpages/benfoldsfive/. At the time, I
didn't have a problem with you and was merely curious as to what your page
all about so I deleted the "benfoldsfive/" part to see what your other pages
were. I didn't mention my knowledge of the site because I didn't believe it
was relevant... in fact, it's still not... but I got tired of you acting
like a baby who can't be wrong, so I thought of an idea to freak you out.
Seems like it worked.

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Ben Winick

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The Rooster

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"Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Actually, I believe I was looking at the Ben Folds newsgroup sometime last
> week and found a post of yours to this page:
> http://www.thesequencers.com/otherpages/benfoldsfive/. At the time, I
> didn't have a problem with you

Bullshit.


Stan


Ben Winick

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Sep 20, 2002, 3:05:20 AM9/20/02
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Well thought out reply (sarcasm implied). You're quick to say "bullshit"
"you're lying" "straw man" etc... but I've yet to read a single intelligent
post from you during this entire discussion. Anyways, it's been fun proving
you wrong... hope we can do it again sometime. Have a nice life, fuckface.

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The Rooster

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Sep 20, 2002, 3:20:45 AM9/20/02
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"Ben Winick" <qei...@insightbb.com> continues to lie -

> Anyways, it's been fun proving
> you wrong...

You've never done that.


Stan,
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The Rooster

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Sep 20, 2002, 3:55:25 AM9/20/02
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Me - "That submitted for evidence type reasons."


If you didn't get it - the evidence isn't my address - it's the handwriting.

Stan


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