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Man...@usenet.com

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Feb 13, 2008, 11:47:17 PM2/13/08
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I read some interesting descriptions of some Phychdelic acts on places like
Prog Archives and Dime. Their fans seem to go out of their way to avoid
giving them a Prog label and often the bands avoid labeling themselves as
Prog. Without going Raja do you think these bands are/were prog? If not
why?
Radiohead, 10cc, Flaming Lips, Zappa

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rojon

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Feb 13, 2008, 11:51:46 PM2/13/08
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On Feb 13, 11:47 pm, Mani...@usenet.com wrote:
> I read some interesting descriptions of some Phychdelic acts on places like
> Prog Archives and Dime. Their fans seem to go out of their way to avoid
> giving them a Prog label and often the bands avoid labeling themselves as
> Prog. Without going Raja do you think these bands are/were  prog? If not
> why?
>  Radiohead, 10cc, Flaming Lips, Zappa
>

MAN! Homework.
I knew I should have picked another thread.

PStoller

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Feb 14, 2008, 4:23:09 PM2/14/08
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On Feb 13, 8:47 pm, Mani...@usenet.com wrote:
> I read some interesting descriptions of some Phychdelic acts on places like
> Prog Archives and Dime. Their fans seem to go out of their way to avoid
> giving them a Prog label and often the bands avoid labeling themselves as
> Prog. Without going Raja do you think these bands are/were prog? If not
> why?
>  Radiohead, 10cc, Flaming Lips, Zappa

I like 'em all except Flaming Lips (whom I don't dislike; just don't
really know their work.) Radiohead certainly owes a debt to Prog, but
I don't think of them as being Prog. Likewise 10cc, which was a sort
of pop/prog schizo band (with Godley & Creme representing the more
progressive half: "L" and "Freeze Frame" are about as close to Prog as
anyone from 10cc ever got.) Zappa, on the other hand, is more-prog-
than-Prog; Prog stripped of its grandiose cliches, and with more wit
and funk than most of the genre ever possessed.

Chris Jemmett

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Feb 14, 2008, 8:00:56 PM2/14/08
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It WILL be on the test.

rojon

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Feb 14, 2008, 11:27:33 PM2/14/08
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then, better sooner than later...Yes?

vide...@aol.com

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Feb 16, 2008, 5:04:41 PM2/16/08
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I personally am not familiar with Radiohead, but thought that "the
press" were referring to OK Computer as progressive, or at least the
current (at the time) flavor of it. I thought that there was a mini
resurgence of progressive influenced bands a few years back. Seems to
have died off. Then again, I'm not reading NYTimes these days.

Bill

Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol

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Feb 16, 2008, 5:49:50 PM2/16/08
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On Feb 13, 10:47 pm, Mani...@usenet.com wrote:
> I read some interesting descriptions of some Phychdelic acts on places like
> Prog Archives and Dime. Their fans seem to go out of their way to avoid
> giving them a Prog label and often the bands avoid labeling themselves as
> Prog. Without going Raja do you think these bands are/were  prog? If not
> why?
>  Radiohead, 10cc, Flaming Lips, Zappa


Zappa was experimental rock. I dont know whether exp rock can be
called prog. If not that disqualifies Floyd, Can, Velvet Underground
etc.
Radiohead falls in only one category - boring 'c' rock
Flaming Lips -- dont give a damn

vrooomed

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Feb 20, 2008, 8:09:07 AM2/20/08
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On Feb 13, 11:47 pm, Mani...@usenet.com wrote:

>  Radiohead, 10cc, Flaming Lips, Zappa

Radiohead's "Kid A" album (er, CD) is actually quite progressive in
nature, although I doubt anyone would call it "Prog Rock" in the sense
of what Prog Rock is usually defined by (i.e., the classics from the
70's, Marillion, Flower Kings, Spock's Beard - you know, time
signature changes and key changes). There are songs with a jazzy feel
(The National Anthem), almost ambient (Everything in It's Right
Place), pure pop (Optimistic), and stuff I don't know how to classify
(Idioteque). It's an album that's truly all over the place, but for
some reason, it winds up working.

It is definitely my favorite album of theirs. The other stuff
(including "OK Computer") is not really prog, but their music is
certainly in a category all its own.

--vrooomed--

Godolphin&fellow

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Feb 22, 2008, 8:19:37 AM2/22/08
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On Feb 16, 5:49 pm, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 13, 10:47 pm, Mani...@usenet.com wrote:
>
> > I read some interesting descriptions of some Phychdelic acts on places like
> > Prog Archives and Dime. Their fans seem to go out of their way to avoid
> > giving them a Prog label and often the bands avoid labeling themselves as
> > Prog. Without going Raja do you think these bands are/were prog? If not
> > why?
> > Radiohead, 10cc, Flaming Lips, Zappa
>
> Zappa was experimental rock. I dont know whether exp rock can be
> called prog. If not that disqualifies Floyd, Can, Velvet Underground
> etc.
> Radiohead falls in only one category - boring 'c' rock
> Flaming Lips -- dont give a damn

I saw a tv program on Bravo (maybe), (had a lot of up close insider
interviews with the band), It quoted some relatively early review
saying The Flaming Lips were trying to combine the style of Yes with
the raw energy of punk (or something like that). The person I was
watching it with laughed at that but... it made sense to me. - That
said the the 3 albums of theirs I've heard The Solf Bulletin is the
only one I like a lot.

Man...@usenet.com

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Feb 23, 2008, 1:55:32 AM2/23/08
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On 22-Feb-2008, "Godolphin&fellow" <g4...@netscape.net> wrote:

> That
> said the the 3 albums of theirs I've heard The Solf Bulletin is the
> only one I like a lot.

I got to see them Live a Red Rocks this past summer and had the most fun
that I can remember at a concert since - well maybe ever. They totally
embrace today's commercial world while pointing out the insanity at the same
time.
The stage had short dressed girls in Alien costumes on 1 side Giant Santa
Clauses on the other while Shapceship landing lights drove home the
outstanding synth and Guitar sounds. Huge balloons dropped down on the
audience, Confetti Cannons, Lasers, - on and on. The crowd dressed in
everything from Nun's with Hand Puppets to Sponge Bob Square Pants. It is
like nothing I had ever seen before. The music was all live they do not fake
the sound. sure they miss a few notes here and there but hold it all
together. If you get a chance to see them, by all means GO!
--
Without music, life would be a mistake.
~Nietzsche

Jeff Blanks

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Jun 8, 2008, 11:56:28 AM6/8/08
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vide...@aol.com wrote:

> I thought that there was a mini
> resurgence of progressive influenced bands a few years back. Seems to
> have died off.

Well, it seems to have done its job, at least: "Prog", in the words of
*Keyboard* magazine, is no longer a four-letter word. ;-)

And there's always The Mars Volta.

--
"There is no excellent beauty which hath not some
strangeness in the proportion." --Francis Bacon

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