ELO vs. YES
KajaGooGoo
putting out some gigantic hits. Even though ELO has been largely forgotten,
how would you compare the prime of ELO to YES?
Which band was better in your opinion back in the 1970s? There was a time
when an ELO album would place two or three tracks on the Billboard Charts
every time. Did you like ELO more than YES back then? Did you think of them
as similar bands? Is ELO progressive rock?
Tony Elka
"KajaGooGoo" <Kajago...@yahoo.com> wrote:
ELO is one of my three most hated bands, along with Supertramp and
Steely Dan.
Tony
Tracy_...@frontiernet.net
So, I take it that Captain & Tennille aren't in that list?
Tony Elka
Tracy_...@frontiernet.net wrote:
The Captain (Dennis Dragon) was one of the few performers I knew of
(Mark Mothersbaugh of DEVO was another) that used the ARP Odyssey
synthesizer for something more than just a pitch-bend solo.
Plus I got to know his younger brother Daryl when my band used to open
for The Surf Punks back in 1980/81. Nice family.
Captain & Tennille weren't to my taste, but I didn't hate them.
Tony
P.S. Toni Tennille sang a little on Pink Floyd's 'The Wall', I don't
think anybody expected that before it happened.
Tony Elka
Tony Elka <shado...@shadowlane.com> wrote:
Oops. I reversed Daryl with Dennis. Dennis was 1/2 of The Surf Punks,
Daryl was The Captain.
Tony
Tracy_...@frontiernet.net
<shado...@shadowlane.com> wrote:
>In article <f1af041cit2pge83v...@4ax.com>,
> Tracy_...@frontiernet.net wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:53:42 -0700, Tony Elka
>> <shado...@shadowlane.com> wrote:
>>
>> >ELO is one of my three most hated bands, along with Supertramp and
>> >Steely Dan.
>>
>> So, I take it that Captain & Tennille aren't in that list?
>
>
>
>The Captain (Dennis Dragon) was one of the few performers I knew of
>(Mark Mothersbaugh of DEVO was another) that used the ARP Odyssey
>synthesizer for something more than just a pitch-bend solo.
>
>Plus I got to know his younger brother Daryl when my band used to open
>for The Surf Punks back in 1980/81. Nice family.
>
>Captain & Tennille weren't to my taste, but I didn't hate them.
>
>Tony
>
>P.S. Toni Tennille sang a little on Pink Floyd's 'The Wall', I don't
>think anybody expected that before it happened.
Oops... Caught me off-guard with that response! Also, Toni used to
have a Mini-Moog on her piano - at least she did during one video I
watched. I was "sort of" impressed. :^)
But, now I know they were almost "family", I won't bust on ya again.
Who'da thunk it?
blades...@earthlink.net
Well, my favorite band is ELO so that is a self answering question,
but I was also a big YES fan back during that time as well. If
stranded on a desert Island I'd rather have my ELO albums than the YES
albums, but ideally, I'd take both (in addition to many other groups).
I really don't see a lot of similarity between the two bands as they
had totally different musical approaches and techniques.
A lot of ELO is progressive rock, but a lot of it is not. But then
again, it doesn't really matter if you like the music...that's all
that counts.
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YES was a collaboration of many changing musicians playing under the YES
concept of music. ELO was one man's concept that changed as he changed
and we all change as we move through life (Jeff Lynne). Much of early
ELO was progressive and then became more Pop. The songs we used to hear
on the radio so much were largely these Pop songs. If you listened to
the other songs you will hear a variety of music.
Its difficult to break the perception of only writing Pop songs when
your record company picks those songs to go on the radio and they sell.
After a while it becomes a self fulfilling and expected by the
populous and thats how your manager, record company and industry paints
you but not necessarily what the artist(s) wanted or actually is.
The material from the 1st 3 albums was progressive. The 4th album
became more mainstream and produced Evil Woman, Strange Magic but also
had Fire on High which is heard on TV and radio but it was not a single
because it was too long. But it is Evil Woman and Strange Magic that
stick in people's minds. The third to last album Time was mostly
progressive but that was overshadowed by the song Hold on Tight. The
next album was to be a double album that was to contain some progressive
songs but the record company cut it down to one album. The last album
was a contractual obligation and the last of the ELO albums. Yes there
was one more album that came out a few years ago but it seems that Lynne
dropped the concept that is pure ELO to most fans and while I still
liked it, it is hardly progressive.
Now ELO seems to have been pegged as a Pop band with the likes of ABBA
and the Moody Blues. The Beatles are now pegged as a purely Pop band
but they were not entirely that especially during their time. It can
seem that way now as elements of older music gets adopted into
mainstream music. It is only a matter of time before anyone's music,
progressive or not, becomes mainstream and sometimes stale.
I really liked the older Yes works, but also think that 90125 and Big
Generator is Pop and that is my perception. If it weren't for the
earlier material (like ELO), the progressive line becomes blurred after
time.
doug holverson
Steely Dan? You have a couple of college educated smart asses who have
been around the block a couple of times. What's not to love?
DGH
KajaGooGoo
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Back when they were popular, their songs were overplayed as much at Phil
Collins. That alone is enough to hate any band. I only like Haitian Divorce,
mostly because it did not receive as much airplay.
Tony Elka
doug holverson <dholv...@cox.net> wrote:
> Steely Dan? You have a couple of college educated smart asses who have
> been around the block a couple of times. What's not to love?
The music and the vocals.
Tony
catpandaddy
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They had exactly one song that sounded like "classic rock", and that one
song was "Reelin' in the Years"... after that, they went all "smooth jazz"
and descended into catastrophic suckdom.
The Professor
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You are so wrong Kitty. Steely Dan is great. Really gotten into them
over the last few years and they made a LOT Of great music. Aja and Katy
Lied as well as Two Against Nature stack up with anything I own.
The Professor (great stuff)
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Tell me something, do you think the Dave Mathews Band rocks?
Bob
Pre ELO, ELO ( The Move) was an excellent band to listen to back then. Roy
Wood added an element of insanity that they lost after he left, similar to
Pink Floyd after Syd left. If you've never heard "Shazam" you've missed out
on one of rock's great moments in history and deserved more credit than it
got back in 1970.
Bob
Max C. Webster III
>>>> Steely Dan? You have a couple of college educated smart asses who
>>>> have been around the block a couple of times. What's not to love?
>>>
>>> The music and the vocals.
>>
>> They had exactly one song that sounded like "classic rock", and that
>> one song was "Reelin' in the Years"... after that, they went all
>> "smooth jazz" and descended into catastrophic suckdom.
>
> You are so wrong Kitty. Steely Dan is great. Really gotten into them
> over the last few years and they made a LOT Of great music. Aja and Katy
> Lied as well as Two Against Nature stack up with anything I own.
>
> The Professor (great stuff)
Aja is one of my "desert island" discs. Though not technically SD, The
Nightfly is on that list, too.
- Max -
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Terrell Miller
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ELO were my favorite group when I was thirteen. Chicago, Styx and Kansas
were my other faves.
Yes and Genesis were my favorite groups when I was fourteen. And still are
three decades later.
ELO's first three albums had some proggy elements but that's mostly because
Prog wasn't a genre at the time, just a loose collection of artists trying
to do interesting new things in rock. Not a movement, just a general trend.
ELO tried some of those things.
By the time Prog had been defined, ELO had moved on to glossy pop. Nothing
wrong with that at all, but I wouldn't call them prog by any stretch.
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Terrell Miller
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don't even get me started on DISCOvery...
norborder
"The Professor" sayed:
The Royal Scam (with one of my fav Dan tunes - "Don't Take Me Alive), has
its moments as well. Plus, Donald Fagan is fuglier than Geddy. Easily.
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Music is not a beauty contest, eh.
KajaGooGoo
>
Among the ugliest rock stars, Fagan, Geddy, Jagger, Keef, Grace Slick (old
fat version),
Mr. Blues Guy
...and watch the titles:
Yes - Magnification!
ELO - Zoom!
Prog rock with strings.
Cool.
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KajaGooGoo
> ELO - Zoom!
>
Was it with most or all of the original band?
Mr. Blues Guy
In short:
Jeff Lynne, Roy Wood and Bev Bevan started the 'band' (from the Move and the
Idle Race) around 71. Roy Wood quit after the first album to start Wizzard
and Richard Tandy joined.
On Zoom you have a new collective: Jeff Lynne, Richard Tandy and George
Harrison, Ringo Starr!
Bev Bevan started his own band: ELO part II in the early 90's. He is not on
the Zoom album.
Nowadays Jeff Lynne is still involved in ELO and the Traveling Wilburys. All
albums have been expanded with extra songs. Check out: www.ftmusic.com
Bev Bevan is still active as a member of Bev Bevan's Move and has a radio
show in Birmingham.
Roy Wood is still involved in his solo work and is expanding the Move
albums.
Cheers
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Mr. Blues Guy
KajaGooGoo
Tandy and George Harrison, Ringo Starr!
>
Wow, lots of great talent there! I will have to get that album, thanks!
KajaGooGoo
them a little bit - so that strikes me as a little funny.>
I think it is the nostalgia factor. There are songs that I found annoying
back when they came out and now I like them enough that I won't change the
station when they come out (but not enough to buy them and/or put them on
CDr or Mp3 player, etc.).
Steely Dan had a lot of catchy tunes, but they were over-played to death and
I honestly cannot stand to listen to most of their songs, just like Lionel
Ritchie, Phil Collins, Micheal Jackson, Abba, etc. I used to love Abba, but
their songs were played so much on the radio that I find them extremely
boring.