Kelly Groucutt solo album
Stooovie
isnæ„’ bad at all. Itæ„€ a clear ELO rip-off, but isnæ„’ it what we are looking
for? If you thought OrKestraæ„€ Beyond the Dreams sounded like ELO, you must
hear this. It features complete 1982 ELO lynne-up (gosh!) just without Jeff.
A must have for all ELO fans!
Steven Acevedo
wrote:
>I have discovered Kelly Groucutt solo album on KaZaA network and must say it
>isn´t bad at all. It´s a clear ELO rip-off, but isn´t it what we are looking
>for? If you thought OrKestra´s Beyond the Dreams sounded like ELO, you must
>hear this. It features complete 1982 ELO lynne-up (gosh!) just without Jeff.
>A must have for all ELO fans!
It's a pretty good album but sounds more like ABBA in places.
Galley_SimRacer
> I have discovered Kelly Groucutt solo album on KaZaA network and must
> say it
> isnæ„’ bad at all. Itæ„€ a clear ELO rip-off, but isnæ„’ it what we are
> looking
> for?
I can remember seeing him on American Bandstand, but have never seen or
heard the album. :-(
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Serena Torz
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>
> It's a pretty good album but sounds more like ABBA in places.
>
Hayward & Manfred Mann can be branded as ELO on there, anything can happen
as far as I'm concerned!) on Napster?
Kelly has a higher voice than Jeff but not THAT high!
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 07:30:51 +0200, "Stooovie" <stoo...@volny.cz>
wrote:
>I have discovered Kelly Groucutt solo album on KaZaA network and must say it
>isn´t bad at all. It´s a clear ELO rip-off, but isn´t it what we are looking
>for? If you thought OrKestra´s Beyond the Dreams sounded like ELO, you must
Michael Barsky
It is funny how he name-checks
various ELO songs/albums (Out of the Blue, All Over the World) on Am I A
Dreamer.
I thought the Orkestra stuff had a bit more substance, and Fly Away is the
best song he's ever done.
Mike
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Slingblade
<Gal...@stuffyougottahave.com> wrote:
>Stooovie wrote:
>> I have discovered Kelly Groucutt solo album on KaZaA network and must
>> say it
>> isnæ„’ bad at all. Itæ„€ a clear ELO rip-off, but isnæ„’ it what we are
>> looking
>> for?
>
>I can remember seeing him on American Bandstand, but have never seen or
>heard the album. :-(
Well, I saw him on A.B. also...and I went to the record store and
bought the LP the next day. It's not a bad album, and it does have a
couple of pretty good songs, but overall the album was kind of weak.
Iain Pendry
discovered to describe how bad this record is. Sorry Kelly, nice bloke,
great bass player, terrible, awful travesty of a record.
Only my opinion, of course.
Iain
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NPD423
Theatre.
Damien Spanjer
bd1.aol.com>:
>I like Kelly's solo album. It sound more like ELO than Jeff's Armchair
>Theatre.
Had Jeff recorded a solo album in 1982 it would sound more like ELO than
Kelly's album.
Kelly doesn't sound much like ABBA anywhere to me, but that's beacuse I'm
as familiar with ABBA and their production values as I am with Lynne & ELO.
There are fundamental differences that set them wide apart, however I will
concede that Kelly's album is a lot more 'soft pop' than ELO, which may be
the cause of these ABBA comparisons I see so often.
DS
PeterV1962
>Had Jeff recorded a solo album in 1982 it would sound more like ELO than
>Kelly's album.
not judging by 1977's "Doin That Crazy Thing" "Goin Down To Rio" and 1984's
"Video" or "Let It Run" which sound nothing like ELO. hard to believe they were
done by the same person!
Peter
to email please remove the "carwash" from the email address
Kristofer Straub
> I like Kelly's solo album. It sound more like ELO than Jeff's Armchair
> Theatre.
I like Out Of The Blue. It sounds more like ELO than Jeff's solo album,
which wasn't supposed to be ELO, and Kelly's solo album, which I haven't
heard any of.
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Iain Pendry
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Slingblade
>I like Kelly's solo album. It sound more like ELO than Jeff's Armchair
>Theatre.
That's probably because it was released during the OOTB/Discovery era.
I imagine that had Armchair Theatre been released during that period,
it would have sounded a lot more "like ELO".
Slingblade
wrote:
>>webm...@jeff-lynne.nospam.net (Damien Spanjer)
>>Had Jeff recorded a solo album in 1982 it would sound more like ELO than
>>Kelly's album.
>not judging by 1977's "Doin That Crazy Thing" "Goin Down To Rio" and 1984's
>"Video" or "Let It Run" which sound nothing like ELO. hard to believe they were
>done by the same person!
It's called creativity, versatility. My God, it amazes me how some
people seem to want Jeff Lynne to stagnate on one style of music.
The BEATLES never succumbed to that philosophy, and ELO was supposed
to "pick up where the beatles left off", so by following the variety
of styles pursued by the Beatles, Jeff Lynne is doing the same thing,
both solo and with ELO.
Slingblade
<kst...@nightlightpress.com> wrote:
>>
>> I like Kelly's solo album. It sound more like ELO than Jeff's Armchair
>> Theatre.
>
>I like Out Of The Blue. It sounds more like ELO than Jeff's solo album,
>which wasn't supposed to be ELO, and Kelly's solo album, which I haven't
>heard any of.
I'd have been a lot MORE IMPRESSED if Kelly had NOT tried to sound so
much like ELO on his album. In fact, I'd rather have seen musicians
other than Bev Bevan and Richard Tandy playing on his album.
THuNK
THuNK
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THuNK
bit before 1982. How can you say Let it Run was nothing like ELO. The mind
boggles.
THuNK
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THuNK
THuNK
Rob Ebben
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> Steven Acevedo <sa...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > It's a pretty good album but sounds more like ABBA in places.
> >
> Are you deaf? Or have you downloaded some mis-named ABBA album >
> --
> Serena
Actually, I think Steve's right. It does sound like ABBA at times. He
didn't say the vocals sounded like ABBA, he said the album did. Or, did
you think ABBA was accapella??
Rob
Rob Ebben
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> I can remember seeing him on American Bandstand, but have never seen or
> heard the album. :-(
I remember Kelly on Solid Gold.
Rob
ILibov
PeterV1962
>Unless you are in a different time warp to everyone else, 1977 was a little
>bit before 1982. How can you say Let it Run was nothing like ELO. The mind
>boggles.
>
Because, Let It Run sounds nothing like any ELO song I heard to the date of
it's release neither do the other songs I mentioned. Someone stated to the
effect of "if Jeff made a solo album in 1982 it would have sounded more like
ELO than Kelly's album" I don't agree....... if the 1977 & 1984 stuff sounded
like it does, there is nothing that leads me to beleive that a Jeff Lynne album
in 1982 would have sounded that way! And if kelly's album had the other members
of of ELO on it it WOULD sound like ELO, they WERE ELO!!!!!!!!!
Steven Acevedo
(Slingblade) wrote:
>It's called creativity, versatility. My God, it amazes me how some
>people seem to want Jeff Lynne to stagnate on one style of music.
It's called Nostaglia, my friend. Nothing wrong with it but everyone
under the sun feels it but you can't go back to yesterday. You can
relive it in all in your mind but that's all about you'll be able to
do.
>The BEATLES never succumbed to that philosophy, and ELO was supposed
>to "pick up where the beatles left off", so by following the variety
>of styles pursued by the Beatles, Jeff Lynne is doing the same thing,
>both solo and with ELO.
I applaud Jeff for having the good sense to see that.
Steven Acevedo
>Unless you are in a different time warp to everyone else, 1977 was a little
>bit before 1982. How can you say Let it Run was nothing like ELO. The mind
>boggles.
That's because it wasn't suppose to be. Like you say the mind boggles.
Tank Withers
make a superb litter box. Spies should listen to it in case of capture.
Louie Anderson should listen to it before garnering statehood.
"Los Angeles X-treme- 2001 XFL World Champions" Now THIS is what U.S.
Football is all about. NFL go to hell.
hyperjet
Steven Acevedo wrote in message ...
>It's called Nostaglia, my friend. Nothing wrong with it but everyone
>under the sun feels it but you can't go back to yesterday. You can
>relive it in all in your mind but that's all about you'll be able to
>do.
>
I'd have to dissagree there. I got into the Moody Blues in '82. I like their
core 7 albums (67-72) a hundred times more than their '80's stuff yet I
discovered all of their albums roughly the same time.
In their latest album, they did a couple reprises to the old days and they
were well recieved.
It just has to do with musicle taste. I've met people who think ELO's
greatest album is No Answer :/ It doesn't make them any less of a person
or ELO fan than anybody else. There is a large pecentage of fans who love
the ELO sound of the mid-70's.
Some of it may be nastalga but it mostly comes down to musicle taste. I
see no problem with people having certain expectations of what ELO should
be. After all it was the mid -70's that ELO achived their greatest success.
It is possable to recreate that sound. It's been done a number of times
but I don't expect Jeff or Orchestra to have to be stuck in a nitch.
I totally understand why Jeff changed channels with ELO in the 80's. It's
only human nature to want a little change.
I don't nessaceraly have to like the results, though. I've only listened
to Secret Messages a hand full of times since I've bought it in the 80's.
Wait a second....Low on lighter fluid.... Ok, start the flames ;)
Tr
Tr
Smurph1166
I happen to like a few songs off "Kelly".
I think "Sea of Dreams" and "Anything goes with me" are very pretty songs.
And I think that "Old Rock and Roller" is hysterical!!! I"ve been trying to
convince them to add that to the show for years!
Serena Torz
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>
> I totally understand why Jeff changed channels with ELO in the 80's.
It's
> only human nature to want a little change.
> I don't nessaceraly have to like the results, though. I've only listened
> to Secret Messages a hand full of times since I've bought it in the 80's.
> Wait a second....Low on lighter fluid.... Ok, start the flames ;)
Left the matches in the cupboard I'm afraid, hyperjet!
No, we don't have to LIKE what came before or after the time we got into
ELO, but there are those both here and on the two mailing lists, that seem
to think one is a traitor if they admit to it. Sometimes, it seems hard to
speak out against the grain.
THuNK
For God's sake Hyperjet, use you're spelchekr.
What's "musicle"? A strange form of popsicle, or a music to tone you up?
and, "nastalga"? Some form of rare nasal illness that makes you forget
things.
As for "pecentage"??????
Time to buy some lighter fluid me old matey.
THuNK
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>
THuNK
THuNK
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THuNK
ELO song?
As for your last comment, they were not ELO, they were members of ELO. There
is a huge difference.
THuNK
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hyperjet
THuNK wrote in message ...
>hehehehehehe
>
>For God's sake Hyperjet, use you're spelchekr.
>
>What's "musicle
I got it from the same dictionary you found "whinger"
Tr
Simon Templar
-George W. Bush
THuNK
Nice one........
ThuNK
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THuNK
litter box or tray is an English one, it's where cats go to do what comes
naturally.....If not I take it to mean a waste bin of some description.
If you could reduce it in size, spies could use it as a suicide pill and
choke on it. Mind you, their captors might discover it and play it as a form
of torture........
THuNK
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PeterV1962
>I'd have to dissagree there. I got into the Moody Blues in '82. I like their
>core 7 albums (67-72) a hundred times more than their '80's stuff yet I
>discovered all of their albums roughly the same time.
> In their latest album, they did a couple reprises to the old days and they
>were well recieved.
I agree 100% The last Moody Blues album was very well recieved by their fans
who liked the sound the MB's had in the "core 7" days. Also Mike Pinders last
album was very much like his music with the MB's in their hey day. Paul
McCartney's Flaming Pie was also inspired by his work with the Beatles and it's
a good album. I never understand this "change for changes sake" business. It's
an artists choice to make their own music and it's peoples choice to like what
music they do. I get a kick out of people that say they like anything an artist
does claiming they like new stuff better because thats "where the artist is
now" I could only imagine if Jeff Lynne recorded an album with Snoop Doggy Dogg
what people would be saying! <g>
PeterV1962
those Bee Gees! yikes!!!!!!!!!!!
Geffer
>I imagine that had Armchair Theatre been released during that period,
>it would have sounded a lot more "like ELO".
I don't know about that. It seems that solo albums are usually designed for
the artist in question to experiment with different musical styles that might
otherwise not go over too well within the confie of their band. The best
example of this is Lindsey Buckingham. His first two solo albums (Law and
Order, Go Insane) bear absolutely no relation to anything that Fleetwood Mac
was doing at any time. As a result of those albums, he was able to bring new
elements into Mac to keep them both "edgy" and commerical.
For a Jeff Lynne solo album released in the 1970's to sound like OOTB would
show a lack of artistic growth on his behalf. It's called "resting on your
laurels." I thought Armchair Theatre showed a lot of growth both in
songwriting and production. It was his way of showing us what he learned from
working with Harrison, Petty, Orbison, Del Shannon, Brian Wilson, etc.
Zoom basically allows Jeff to continue growing and developing. I find it to be
one shit-hot album. He seems to have put a lot of thought into the music, the
lyrics, and the production. For anyone to expect it to be OOTB II just has
their head up their ass. Did "Free as a Bird" or "Real Love" sound like
anything done in the '67-'70 era Beatles? Don't think so. Keep that in mind
here.
Geffer
Trenton, NJ
Making the world safer for Electric Light Orthodontics
Iain Pendry
actually bought "Kelly". And I, for one, am grateful for that. The world
source of vinyl and polycarbonate is limited, you know.
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Simon Templar
As always, it was your pleasure
The Juju Man
Steven Acevedo
>For a Jeff Lynne solo album released in the 1970's to sound like OOTB would
>show a lack of artistic growth on his behalf. It's called "resting on your
>laurels." I thought Armchair Theatre showed a lot of growth both in
>songwriting and production. It was his way of showing us what he learned from
>working with Harrison, Petty, Orbison, Del Shannon, Brian Wilson, etc.
My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't have expected anything less.
>Zoom basically allows Jeff to continue growing and developing. I find it to be
>one shit-hot album. He seems to have put a lot of thought into the music, the
>lyrics, and the production. For anyone to expect it to be OOTB II just has
>their head up their ass. Did "Free as a Bird" or "Real Love" sound like
>anything done in the '67-'70 era Beatles? Don't think so. Keep that in mind
>here.
He even said it himself. It's the most personal he's ever gotten with
prior ELO albums he's done. We know know that a lot of what he wrote
was based on his own experiences over the last 15 years. As hard as it
you sometimes have to let go bits and pieces of your old life and find
a better one to aim for when a greater good is at stake..
>Geff
PeterV1962
>Zoom basically allows Jeff to continue growing and developing. I find it to
>be
>one shit-hot album. He seems to have put a lot of thought into the music,
>the
>lyrics, and the production. For anyone to expect it to be OOTB II just has
>their head up their ass.
I don't think anyone expected Zoom to be Out Of The Blue II. People tend to
twist the words of anyone who says they "prefer" the sound of the OOTB era ELO.
While it's wonderful to support Jeff's personal "growth" over the years the
truth is most ELO fans seem to like that period best. As for the point someone
made in a previous post about nostalgia, " A longing for familiar or beloved
circumstances that are now remote or irrecoverable" If that definition fits
people who like the "classic" ELO lineups it certianly fits a solo album being
called a "group" album.
Jeff Cooper
Jeff
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hyperjet
Jeff Cooper wrote in message ...
>And it reminds me a bit of 'Beatles Forever' in places! ;)
>
Tr
Smurph1166
>album by OrKestra which I have
It was also on the US release of "Kelly".
I guess OrKestra and Kelly were interchangeble...hence the new spelling ;
"Orchestra" for the new band.
(Personally I think they should have gone with the old spelling-more original
and interesting. But there are fragile musician egos at stake here! Can't mess
with that!)
Smurph1166
>it sound like the TIME album.
You are absolutely right!
joe
"clean-shaven" cover that has the remixes (though I didn't know that at the
time). I was pretty happy with the album, compared to Violinski, which I
hated. This was around the time of Time or Secret Messages (don't hold me
to the timeline) but I remember that I felt it sounded more like ELO than
ELO was in those days. (I was young and foolhardy)
Recently, I got an mp3 of Am I A Dreamer, and it jarred my memory of the
album. Looking back, it seems very derivative of OOTB-Discovery period ELO;
ultra-sweet strings and prominent upper harmonies and all that. I would
guess that these songs were originally conceived for ELO. I would love to
hear the whole album again; any chance of it being re-released on CD? I
realize there isn't a huge demand, but I've seen some pretty obscure bands
(Spys, FM, Illusion) release their old works. (I'm still waiting for Novo
Combo's Animation Generation, too)
Sorry for the ramblings...
Joe C.
Rob Ebben
know if that's true???
Rob
Rob Ebben
> "Spaceship Earth" sounds like it belongs on the TIME album. That's the
> most ELO-ish song on the album.
Orkestra's "Who's That Calling" reminds me of "From The End Of The World."
Rob
Steven Acevedo
>If its re-released on CD I WANT A COPY! I'm willing to pay big money for it. It seems like that ELO sound I >really love doesn't exist anymore today, even with the "ZOOM" ELO CD and the recent Orchestra/ELO part 2 CD's >around. Its a shame. But a reality. For me ELO died after Secret Messages was made. From then on the ELO >sound I loved was lost. The reason, ELO split up. Most of the band members left.
So the sound changed. Get over it already.
I don't mean to sound harsh but you have to understand that the
concept and dymanics changed many times over. Out Of The Blue is not
like Time and Time is not like A New World's Record.
It's silly to presume that the group would stay the same just for you
or anybody else. When a greater good is stake you have to sacrifice
an old idea for a new one.
dr. tony shore
<Gal...@stuffyougottahave.com> wrote:
>> I have discovered Kelly Groucutt solo album on KaZaA network
What is the KaZaA network, and what's the name of the solo album? Has
it ever been on CD?
Neil David
...don't bother
Regards
Neil D
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Neil David
> example of this is Lindsey Buckingham. His first two solo albums (Law and
> Order, Go Insane) bear absolutely no relation to anything that Fleetwood
Mac
> was doing at any time. As a result of those albums, he was able to bring
new
> elements into Mac to keep them both "edgy" and commerical.
Sorry but the linsdey buckingham album which had the most fleetwood mac song
ever (trouble i think it was called)...and as for experimenting ...TUSK!
Regards
Neil D
joe
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> The last "valid" ELO for me was during the Secret Messages album which
> included:
> Jeff Lynne,
> Richard Tandy,
> Bev Beven,
> Kelly Groucutt,
> Mik Kaminski,
> Louis Clark,
> and Dave Morgan.
>
> That was a real band. After that it degenerated to just three people
> when Balance of Power was made (which is a pretty good CD, but it
> sounds like Jeff Lynne solo work to me):
> Jeff Lynne,
> Richard Tandy,
> and Bev Beven.
>
My understanding was that the band had already pared down to Jeff, Bev,
Richard and Kelly on Time. (I could say for sure if I only had the liner
notes...damn budget CDs) I believe Mik only played on a cut or two on
Secret Messages.
> Kelly Groucutt was an important ELO band member. Kelly played bass,
> and like Jeff he was the band's only other main vocalist (less so than
> Jeff), and was also a backing vocalists (as were many of the other
> band members). His musical creative input and his vocal impact in the
> band's sound was tremendous until the Secret Messages album, when his
> influence started to fade. After that he left the group. When he left
> the band his part of the ELO sound left with him, obviously since he
> sang side by side with Jeff for a large number of their hit songs.
> The absence of his vocals in Secret Messages and Xanadu is heard. In those
> two albums he only did backing vocals. In all of the other albums he
> sang along with Jeff as a lead vocalist for many songs.
I'm not an expert, but I can't think of any obvious example of Kelly singing
lead. His voice is fairly prominent in a number of choruses, but always
harmonizing with Jeff. (Anyone with better ears than me, feel free to
correct me) As for his creative input, I've never been clear what his
contribution creatively was. All the songs were written and produced by
Lynne, with some additional arrangements by Tandy and Clark. I've never
seen Lynne ever acknowledge any creative input from Kelly. I'm not even
sure if Kelly always wrote his own bass lines. From his own solo album, it
would appear as if he wasn't allowed to exercise his full range of skills.
In the one quote I did read, Lynne referred to him as a "hired hand" who was
"paid to do a job" though that quote was made in response to Kelly's lawsuit
against Lynne, where it was in Jeff's interest to minimize any creative
contribution by Groucutt.
>
> * In both Xanadu and Secret Messages, Kelly is only a backing
> vocalist. He doesn't sing side by side with Jeff. This alters the CD's
> sound a lot. These are, in my opinion, the worst CD's of the 7 CD's
> Kelly was on. The others are WONDERFUL. TIME and Out Of The Blue, are
> two of the most popular ELO CD's of all time. Secret Messages and
> Xanadu, are some of the least popular ELO CD's.
>
I feel there are a number of more relevant reasons for the lack of
popularity at that time than Kelly's influence. Xanandu is my least
favorite ELO album because it's only half an album with a terrible mix.
Personally, I like Secret Messages a great deal, but by then ELO had been
unfairly buried for being a "disco band" by the media. A number of 70's
bands ran aground during that same period, as New Wave and punk took center
stage.
Just my opinion,
Joe C.
hyperjet
joe wrote in message ...
>I'm not an expert, but I can't think of any obvious example of Kelly
singing
>lead. His voice is fairly prominent in a number of choruses, but always
>harmonizing with Jeff.
From what I can remember, he sang the chorus of 'Horus Wimp', and did some
lead vocals on Poker, Above the Clouds, Night Rider and Sweet is the Night.
I've seen some video where he sang lead on the live versions of 10538.
>I feel there are a number of more relevant reasons for the lack of
>popularity at that time than Kelly's influence. Xanandu is my least
>favorite ELO album because it's only half an album with a terrible mix.
>Personally, I like Secret Messages a great deal, but by then ELO had been
>unfairly buried for being a "disco band" by the media. A number of 70's
>bands ran aground during that same period, as New Wave and punk took center
>stage.
I like Xanadu. From what I understand it could have been much better.
I remember a Bev interview where he said that the band made some quick
demos of the songs and some idiot in the movie production choriographed the
music to the movie so they had to trace the final versions in exact tempo to
the demos (something like that, anyway)
Tr
Steven Acevedo
Then Musicman. Why do you persist in also stating the obvious as well?
You have pretty made it clear to all of us that you want an ELO sound
that doesn't exist anymore. There is no other information I can give
you other than the facts as they are now.
That ELO that you admired has moved on and grown. Jeff Lynne is not
the man he was 15-20 years ago. The other band members are not who
they were either. That's clear from the get-go. There is nothing more
to add beyond that.
That's what it boils down to plain and simple.
Kristofer Straub
> I see that you have nothing better to write. I'll stop reading your
> useless posts.
I was about to agree with him. In many a post you note that:
- Jeff is not a band unto himself. He is not ELO.
- Kelly's CD sounds more like the old ELO, which you enjoy a lot more.
- You were thoroughly disappointed with Zoom because it doesn't sound
like the old ELO.
- Ideally Jeff and the others would regroup, but it's not going happen
and it's unfortunate.
And while NONE of these things are incorrect, you restate them quite
often!
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Kristofer Straub -- kst...@nightlightpress.com
http://www.nightlightpress.com
Geffer
>ever (trouble i think it was called)...and as for experimenting ...TUSK!
Okay, having somehow worked through your spelling and grammar problems, I can
respond. Tusk has been largely acknowledged by Lindsey himself as a solo
album. He was listening to the Clash and Talking Heads and wanted to
experiment with their sounds. So yes, Tusk is experimental and Law and Order
seems to be an outgrowth of that. "Trouble," I'm willing to bet, is the record
company saying, "But we don't hear a single!" When that song is placed along
the other songs on Law and Order, it doesn't really flow with the rest of the
album.
The rest of his solo work stems from Tusk being a commercial failure and the
band returning to the commercial sound of Mirage. Go Insane was sort of a
rebellion to that attitude.
--Geffer
Neil David
Sorry Geffer I was drunk in charge of a keyboard. I'll try not to let it
happen again!.
BTW I agree with all the points you made
Regards
N
Matthew W. Miller
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>> The last "valid" ELO for me was during the Secret Messages album which
>> included: Jeff Lynne, Richard Tandy, Bev Beven, Kelly Groucutt, Mik
>> Kaminski, Louis Clark, and Dave Morgan.
>Richard and Kelly on Time.
For what it's worth, here are the credits from the good old-fashioned
vinyl record release:
All music and lyrics by Jeff Lynne
Produced by Jeff Lynne
Richard Tandy -- piano, electric piano, synthesizers, guitar
Jeff Lynne -- lead vocals, backing vocals, electric & acoustic guitars,
piano, synthesizers
Bev Bevan -- drums, percussion
Kelly Groucutt -- bass guitar, backing vocals
Engineered by Mack
Strings by Jeff Lynne, Richard Tandy, Rainer Pietsch
Conducted by Rainer Pietsch
Recorded at Musicland Studios -- Munich
Album Coordinator -- Brian Jones
Special thanks to Bill Bottrell
Special thanks to Brendan Higgs
Thanks to Brian Gardner
Girl's voice on "Yours Truly, 2095" by Sandi
French verse in "Hold On Tight" by Ghislaine
Special thanks to Nancy & Phil for their front room
Gibson, Ovation -- guitars
Yamaha, Oberheim, S.L.M., Wurlitzer -- keyboards
Fender, Gibson -- bass guitars
Slingerland drums
Zildjian cymbals
Remo heads
Artwork by -- Guy Fery
Photos by -- Frank Griffin
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Matthew W. Miller -- mwmi...@columbus.rr.com