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M@tt

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Jun 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/10/99
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Does anyone know (for reasonably sure) if Ibanez will be releasing a 7
string version of its JPM (John Petrucci Model) series electric
guitars? If so, when? Any model specs or details? Please send reply
direct, since I am unable to monitor this list often.

Thanx,

<mpi...@sj.znet.com>


Pete Rensch

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Jun 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/10/99
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You can wish they would make one, but since Ibanez is thinking about
discontinuing the Universe series, I seriously doubt a Petrucci model is
anywhere in the near future.


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Johanns Fernandez

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Jun 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/10/99
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> You can wish they would make one, but since Ibanez is thinking about
> discontinuing the Universe series, I seriously doubt a Petrucci model is
> anywhere in the near future.
>
> > Does anyone know (for reasonably sure) if Ibanez will be releasing a 7
> > string version of its JPM (John Petrucci Model) series electric
> > guitars? If so, when? Any model specs or details? Please send reply
> > direct, since I am unable to monitor this list often.

You think they'll re-name the series according to what Munky(brain) and
(dick)Head want to call it? They have been the undeserving twits endorsing
Ibanez 7-strings lately.

jf


Keith Selbee

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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Pretty unbelievable. Our guitar heros used to be masters, but now it's all
about piercings and shit and little to do with playing ability. Have you seen
a recent Ibanez catalog? It's almost embarassing. Reb Beach was endosring
these cheap low end models, and you have these punks endorsing the new cool 7
strings. What a frickin' joke. But you can't blame Ibanez I guess... they're
a business like any other.

Keith

Mean Mr. Vean

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Keith Selbee wrote:

> Pretty unbelievable. Our guitar heros used to be masters, but now it's all
> about piercings and shit and little to do with playing ability. Have you seen
> a recent Ibanez catalog? It's almost embarassing. Reb Beach was endosring

KORN fucking sucks! The so-called guitar players Head and Munky
make me wanna puke. Those fuckers can only play 3 things on their
guitars and that's all. I've talked to many of my guitar playing
friends and their immediate reaction (as well as mine) has
been "I can play this while taking a shit!". You can make a
KORN song in 5 seconds. And then you see these assholes in Ibanez
ads. Good work, fellas.
-V


Diablo6491

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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I actually enjoy Korn. Not the new stuff, but the two last albums, Korn and
Life is Peachy. It really doesnt matter to me how they're playing, well or
bad, because it has the sound I'm looking for. I love "blind", I dont think
I've heard another song like that as well as "Fagot". I know they arent half
as skilled or even 3/4 as skilled as anyone else we talk about, they play some
agressive shit that makes me smile though, so thats all I ask of them. They
cant even do that though so fuck'em. I also agree that it should be people
like Petrucci in adds for ibanez instead of munky;> What a putz

RaY


-It just feels like I'm trying to much . . .-

Calvin 6S

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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>You think they'll re-name the series according to what Munky(brain) and
>(dick)Head want to call it? They have been the undeserving twits endorsing
>Ibanez 7-strings lately.
>

What tolerance. They definitely ARE NOT undeserving since those two guys
probably did more for the commercial resurgance of 7 strings than any artist
out right now. And let's face it, the 7 string was Vai's baby but he did
NOTHING with it. Petrucci is much more exploitave of the 7 strings
possibilities, but then again I doubt most of the 7 string sales are due to
Petrucci.

$t@tu§

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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> What tolerance. They definitely ARE NOT undeserving since those two guys
> probably did more for the commercial resurgance of 7 strings than any
artist
> out right now. And let's face it, the 7 string was Vai's baby but he did
> NOTHING with it. Petrucci is much more exploitave of the 7 strings
> possibilities, but then again I doubt most of the 7 string sales are due
to
> Petrucci.

well, i agree with you on this one... i read an interview recently with
Munky and Head of Korn. And Munky stated that he admires Steve Vai alot,
both for his music and for "inventing" 7-string guitars... he also said that
he doesn`t even know why Ibanez offered them to play under their sponsorship
especially since "we aren`t some techical-skilled, innovative guitarist like
Vai is... ". Okay, we all know why Ibanez did that, for the money... for
promotional purposes, the same as Puma gave them million $ and all the
clothes that they want...

Johanns Fernandez

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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Calvin 6S <calv...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >You think they'll re-name the series according to what Munky(brain) and
> >(dick)Head want to call it? They have been the undeserving twits
endorsing
> >Ibanez 7-strings lately.
> >
>
> What tolerance. They definitely ARE NOT undeserving since those two guys
> probably did more for the commercial resurgance of 7 strings than any
artist
> out right now. And let's face it, the 7 string was Vai's baby but he did
> NOTHING with it. Petrucci is much more exploitave of the 7 strings
> possibilities, but then again I doubt most of the 7 string sales are due
to
> Petrucci.

If about a hundred other bands out there that could out-smoke Korn would get
a piece of shit 7 string and sell as much records as they do, they'd also
get the endorsements, right? There must be a bunch of other guys in this
newsgroup who have more 7 string skills than those two and are in bands
right now. Given half the chance Korn had, they'd be on the Ibanez catalog
playing some 7 string custom made for them (it *would* be cool if someone
anonymous from this newsgroup would "make it" one day). And Vai did
*NOTHING* with the 7 string? Then was that extra B down there just for
decoration's sake all these years? The Passion And Warfare CD must have had
a number of 7-string passages in there.

jf


Calvin 6S

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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>Then was that extra B down there just for
>decoration's sake all these years?
It would seem so. Vai has a love for the # 7. You figure it out.

> The Passion And Warfare CD must have had
>a number of 7-string passages in there.

The Riddle (although not extensively)
The Audience is Listening (although not extensively)

In fact, I remember Vai saying "I had already written most of the P&W songs
before I had the 7 string so it isn't on that album that much." So we all sat
around and waited for the next Vai album to be a 7 string showcase. Was it?

Todd P. Crawford

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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Passion and Warfare 7 string tracks:
The Riddle
For The Love of God
The Audience is Listening
I Would Love to

Alien Love Secrets 7 string tracks:
Bad Horsie
Ya Yo Gakk

I'm not saying without Vai, there would of never been a 7 string guitar,
because they have been around long before him (not in rock guitar), but he
was the main reason they are what they are today. Korn have flat out said
that Vai is the reason 7 string "rock/metal" guitar is what it is today. The
first 7 string, and only until Ibanez made them a RG7, Korn ever had was a
UV, without Vai, they wouldnt of had shit, unless they were going to
incorporate a 1970's 7 string jazz model into their sound. What was the
first 7 string Petrucci (dont even try and say korn is more talented on a 7
string than him) had? A UV7BK, designed by who, Steve Vai.
--
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Calvin 6S

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Jun 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/13/99
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Fact, the Universe was discontinued until bands like Korn brought it back to
prominence. Sure Vai created it (the Universe not the 7 string) but he really
didn't take advantage of it. Why can't "prog heads" just acknowledge that fact
instead of saying "Korn doesn't deserve to be endorsed by Ibanez using the 7
string line." What the heck does a low B string have to do with shred anyway?
Vai occasionally went into the lower registers. Korn thrived on it and a much
larger audience of guitarists out there started thinking "whoa, that sounds
killer. I can't just have a 6 string. I want a 7 string." Accept it.

Todd P. Crawford

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Jun 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/13/99
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Accept it?? Answer this: When, and I mean what exact year, was the UV
discontinued??? Since it came out (do you know what year that was??) there
has NEVER been a year that a UV was not available. It has been in every
catalog, available to order since it's release. Do you know what year Awake
was released in comparison to Korn being signed?? Do you know what songs on
Awake, AND what songs they performed live on the Awake Tour (that were not
released on a record at that date) the UV/ custom 7 string was used on??
Who in here is a "Prog Head" ?? Metallica happens to be my favorite "band"
so I'm far from a prog head. "Shred"?? You think DT is shred?? Vai is
shred?? You know, I happen to like quite a few Korn songs. Do I think they
are a large reason the 7 string models are selling a lot? Yes, they do have
a impact on it. Are they the reason 7 strings are what they are today?? No.
Vai was recording "The Riddle" when Munky and Head were getting kicked out
of guitar stores for loocking like they were homeless and had not showered
in a week. Petrucci was recording "Caught in a Web" when they were begging
to play at someones keg party.

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Scott Andrews

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Jun 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/13/99
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Todd P. Crawford <tp...@mindspring.com> wrote:
: Accept it?? Answer this: When, and I mean what exact year, was the UV

: discontinued??? Since it came out (do you know what year that was??) there
: has NEVER been a year that a UV was not available. It has been in every

not true. the UV7BK was the only UV availible from about 1992,
after Ibanez discontinued the UV7PWH [white] and the UV77MC
[multicolored], until 1994, and there was no UV model availible
in 1995. in 1996 they revived the UV7BK, in early 1997 they
changed the Vai green to black, and then in 1997 they released
the RG7s and the UV777BK.

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sh...@virginia.edu physiology department
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Diablo6491

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Jun 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/13/99
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>Do you know what year Awake
>was released in comparison to Korn being signed??


Both albums were actually released the same year and I think Korn was inked a
few months prior, though I;m not sure. Korn had been writing songs on the
7-strong for abit even before they were signed, ya know. Korn made use of the
7-string at about the same time DT did only Korn took it to the extreme(ala
almost every song except, I think Freak on aLeash was written for it.) I dont
play guitar but I am a huige DT fan and I was a huge Korn fan until this last
album(?). And if you HONESTLY think that Petrucci was recording "Caught in a
WEb" for awake when Munky and Head were begging for places to play, your out of
your mind. They were laying down the tracks for "Korn". Probably playing the
opening riffs to "Blind" or maybe even working on the demo's for "Clown" or
"Divine". Korn had a huge following even before they cut a deal so I dont see
why they would be "begging" to play anywhere, because they werent.


RaY

np: Reb Beach "Black Magic"

Todd P. Crawford

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Jun 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/13/99
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True about 95 (I was quite intoxicated when I posted that one last night!)
Although, the RG7 was not released in 97, it was 98 (I have both catalogs
sitting right in front of me).

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Scott Andrews

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Todd P. Crawford <tp...@mindspring.com> wrote:
: True about 95 (I was quite intoxicated when I posted that one last night!)

: Although, the RG7 was not released in 97, it was 98 (I have both catalogs
: sitting right in front of me).

sorry, that's not true either. the RG7620 was in limited
release as early as May 97, that may be why it's not in the
catalog. i own a 1997 RG7620, with a 97 serial number.

Todd P. Crawford

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Jun 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/14/99
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I think they debuted it at summer NAMM in 97.

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Pete Rensch

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Jun 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/14/99
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I own two RG7621's (non-tremolo models) and they both have '97 serial
numbers.


NovaRain

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Jun 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/19/99
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>What the heck does a low B string have to do with shred anyway?

well, you can play any mode in b over three octives, instead of 2... the last
lick from the end solo of 'Lie', is impossible without a 7-string...

isam...@gmail.com

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Lol there was internet fighting 15 years ago? Lol its really funny looking at this now

tp.mo...@gmail.com

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Yeah, its kind of an internet relic!... But anyway, im still looking for a 7 strings Ibanez jpm :D

I think now it would be easier to build one by myself!
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