WS: Slide It In - US vs. UK...
Fair2Flair
Hey all,
For those of you that have heard both versions (the UK original mix and
the US remix w/Sykes), which is the better effort? I've finally decided
that the Slide It In tracks on Greatest Hits just aren't enough, and I'd
like to get one or the other...
Any help is appreciated...
Nick Thompson
Richard W. Shailor
In article <19970207144...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
fair2...@aol.com says...
>
>Hey all,
>
>For those of you that have heard both versions (the UK original mix and
>the US remix w/Sykes), which is the better effort? I've finally decided
>that the Slide It In tracks on Greatest Hits just aren't enough, and I'd
>like to get one or the other...
>
or are the songs actually re-recorded?
RICH
Tebotts
Yes, there are 2 versions of Slide It In (actually, there are 3 -- a
Japanese version of American re-mixes does not include all the songs from
the UK and US version, but does include interview segments between the
songs as well as the song Need Your Love So Bad.).
The UK version has Micky Moody on guitar and Colin Hodgkinson on bass.
The American version has John Sykes on guitar and Neil Murray on bass.
When Geffen required the remix, John Sykes and Neil Murray flew to the US
to record over Moody and Hodkinson's parts. John Sykes was unable to
record all of the guitar parts, so Moody's parts are still there in some
places. However, all the bass on the American version is Neil Murray.
I prefer the UK version -- it is more blues-rock, as opposed to the
American version being much more metal-like (make sense?) I have both, as
well as the Japanese version, and I probably listen to them all equally.
The Slide It In songs on the GH album don't do Slide It In true justice.
Hope this has been of some help.
Tom
Jelly
In article <5dfrsp$l...@fridge-nf0.shore.net>, "Richard W. Shailor"
<sha...@shore.net> writes
being replaced by John Sykes playing in a manner "more suitable for the
US market" or something (ie smmooth, slick, Bon Jovi). IIRC the bass
parts were changed as well. It marked to my mind the end of the "proper"
Whitesnake and start of a band best referred to as "David Coverdale's
Trousersnake". Trouble indeed.
Jelly.
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Phil
On Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:21:47 +0000, Jelly <je...@thebigj.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
> The guitar parts were re-recorded, Micky Moody's bluesier lines
>being replaced by John Sykes playing in a manner "more suitable for the
>US market" or something (ie smmooth, slick, Bon Jovi). IIRC the bass
>parts were changed as well. It marked to my mind the end of the "proper"
>Whitesnake and start of a band best referred to as "David Coverdale's
>Trousersnake". Trouble indeed.
Nah! The end of the bluesier Whitesnake was "Saints and Sinners" mate.
The whole band left Coverdale at one stage which is why it's a messy
album. I'm not surprised that Coverdale re-recorded two of the songs
off this one! Neil Murray and Ian Paice joined Gary Moore, Bernie
Marsden was fired for his attitude (laughing and joking with Moody on
stage at inappropriate moments such as "Mistreated"), and Moody quit!
Thus, by the time the album was finished, Coverdale had to assemble a
whole new band, although Jon Lord was still in the fold.
Moody eventually rejoined for the tour and the "Slide It In" sessions.
Moody even suggested John Sykes as his replacement! The change of
direction was largely down to the different personalities entering the
band. Moody's heart wasn't in it no more - he even suggested John
Sykes as his replacement (sick of touring and the heavier music) - but
I still prefer some of his solo's to the re-recorded Sykes stuff. I'd
hardly call "Slide It In" slick Bon Jovi! It had too much balls and
feel for that sort of comparison! The bass parts were replaced by Neil
Murray - the guy who played on the older stuff (so I guess you
disliked Powell and Sykes' contributions!).
Anyhow, can't wait for the new 'Snakes album next month!
Phillius.
peter n
Not much difference, us version has a much better mix, plus some guitar
embelishments otherwise not much different - after listening to the us
version the uk mix seems very dead
my advice .... go for the US remix version
peter
Fair2Flair <fair2...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970207144...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> Hey all,
>
> For those of you that have heard both versions (the UK original mix and
> the US remix w/Sykes), which is the better effort? I've finally decided
> that the Slide It In tracks on Greatest Hits just aren't enough, and I'd
> like to get one or the other...
>
Jelly
In article <32fdd260...@news.demon.co.uk>, Phil
<ph...@thirt772.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:21:47 +0000, Jelly <je...@thebigj.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>> The guitar parts were re-recorded, Micky Moody's bluesier lines
>>being replaced by John Sykes playing in a manner "more suitable for the
>>US market" or something (ie smmooth, slick, Bon Jovi). IIRC the bass
>>parts were changed as well. It marked to my mind the end of the "proper"
>>Whitesnake and start of a band best referred to as "David Coverdale's
>>Trousersnake". Trouble indeed.
>
>Nah! The end of the bluesier Whitesnake was "Saints and Sinners" mate.
>The whole band left Coverdale at one stage which is why it's a messy
>album. I'm not surprised that Coverdale re-recorded two of the songs
>off this one! Neil Murray and Ian Paice joined Gary Moore, Bernie
>Marsden was fired for his attitude (laughing and joking with Moody on
>stage at inappropriate moments such as "Mistreated"), and Moody quit!
>Thus, by the time the album was finished, Coverdale had to assemble a
>whole new band, although Jon Lord was still in the fold.
marked the end of the vestiges of "proper" Whitesnake, which had been
falling apart since Saints and Sinners. SII sounds related to S&S,
whereas other, later 'Snake albums don't, to my mind. I think we're
generally in agreement though, this far at least.
>
>Moody eventually rejoined for the tour and the "Slide It In" sessions.
>Moody even suggested John Sykes as his replacement! The change of
>direction was largely down to the different personalities entering the
>band. Moody's heart wasn't in it no more - he even suggested John
>Sykes as his replacement (sick of touring and the heavier music) - but
>I still prefer some of his solo's to the re-recorded Sykes stuff. I'd
>hardly call "Slide It In" slick Bon Jovi! It had too much balls and
>feel for that sort of comparison!
>The bass parts were replaced by Neil
>Murray - the guy who played on the older stuff (so I guess you
>disliked Powell and Sykes' contributions!).
I can't put my finger on what in particular about the US version
I dislike; partly the guitars, but generally the whole feel of it. A
certain slickness in the production perhaps. Maybe a nagging feeling
that it was ever felt necessary to re do it anyway. At the end of the
day, I suppose whether somebody will prefer the US or UK version depends
pretty much on whether they like the Whitesnake that came after or
before it.
>
>Anyhow, can't wait for the new 'Snakes album next month!
I suspect I shall be disappointed, but am willing (nay, hoping)
to find otherwise.
Cheers,
Malcolm Smith
I have both versions on vinyl and the US version is the better of the
two. I am trying to get both versions on CD. is this possible?
Malc
[http://www3.mistral.co.uk/dragondrop]
Malcolm Smith
Yup, "Saints and Sinners" was a bit of a mess, wasn't it?
Malc
teb...@aol.com
In article <VA.000000d3.000a764c@malcolm>, Malcolm Smith <drago...@mistral.co.uk> writes:
>I have both versions on vinyl and the US version is the better of the
>two. I am trying to get both versions on CD. is this possible?
Yes, it is possible. The UK version should be extremely easy for you to find since you live in the UK. I don't know about the availability there of the US version, though. You may have to import that, or have someone from the US send it to you, but they will have no problem finding it on CD in the US.
UK version was released on EMI and has a stock number of CDP 7 90306 2. The US version was released on Geffen. Another way to tell them apart is by the track listings; Slide It In is the first song on US version, Gambler is the first on the UK version.
Tom