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Jarl Sigurd

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Jul 9, 2001, 9:56:12 AM7/9/01
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If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?

Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe

Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford

Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman

Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire

Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson

Jarl Sigurd

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Brian Rost

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Jul 9, 2001, 11:44:23 AM7/9/01
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Jarl Sigurd wrote:
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> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?
>

What a funny troll.

Purple was basically a blues/rock band and thefore WAY funkier than Yes
would vere be in their wildest dreams.

Yes did have superior musicianship if sheer chops were your metric, but
so what?

Might as well ask if Iggy Pop is better than Duke Ellington!

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Darkhop Somebody

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Jul 9, 2001, 11:50:29 AM7/9/01
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Jarl, WTF, eh? Spamming rec.music.theory wasn't enough for
ya?

*plonk*


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Jeffrey N. Oaster

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Jul 9, 2001, 11:24:20 AM7/9/01
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> First off, I think you are comparing apples to oranges, so these comparisons
> may not be a little tough. It's interesting though, that I've done similar
> "who was a more talented band" contests with friends comparing other bands to
> Yes. For the record, Yes beat Dream Theater (winning all but keyboards) but
> lost to Return to Forever (RTF won bass and keys, and tied in guitar.)

>
> Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe

Howe wins, but it's a close one. I like his technique better

> Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford

Not even close. Bruford. Bruford. Bruford

> Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman

Lord in an upset. Wakeman never did it for me.

> Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire

Squire takes 'em both on at the same time and wins

> Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
> or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson

Slight edge to Anderson. Their styles were so different so this one really
comes down to personal preference

How about a celebrity deathmatch between my two favorite live bands? '75-'76
Magma vs. '73-'74 King Crimson. This one features two major mismatches:
Lockwood-Cross and Fripp-Federow. However, Paganotti-Wetton and Vander-Bruford
would be classics. I'm not even sure how to approach the
Wetton-Blasquiz/Vander/Vander vocal showdown.

gugga

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Jul 9, 2001, 12:46:46 PM7/9/01
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Kind of apples and oranges here, but I'd take Purple on every count
except bass (and I am a big Yes fan, too). I do like Anderson better
than Coverdale (at least during Coverdale's stint in Purple--not his
finest work), but not Gillan.

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Vicstanley

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Jul 9, 2001, 2:34:00 PM7/9/01
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Rod Evans is twice as good as Tony Kaye.

Claus + Maria Rogge

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Jul 9, 2001, 3:46:33 PM7/9/01
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Jarl Sigurd <jarls...@geocities.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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>
> Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe
>
> Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford
>
> Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman
>
> Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire
>
> Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
> or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson

Only category that DP wins in is keyboards. As far as I´m concerned.

Claus Rogge


Sven Milliam

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Jul 9, 2001, 4:13:52 PM7/9/01
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"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message news:<wKi27.44043$TW.2...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...
> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?
>
> Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe

Who has a better technique, faster player? Blackmore, though Blackmore
really didn't become a really technical player until the
late-70s/early-80s. So, in the 70s, Howe. Who creates better music?
Subjective.



> Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford

Same as above but substitute Bruford for Howe.



> Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman

Same as above: Wakeman.



> Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire

Squire


Squire

> Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
> or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson

Anderson
Anderson
Gillian and Coverdale got laid more, though.

J and S Ruppert-Urhausen

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Jul 9, 2001, 4:48:41 PM7/9/01
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In the same order of ideas how about comparing an F 15 jet to an Peterbuilt
truck (maybe in their ability to float)????

Regards

Jacques


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Mark Cantin

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Jul 9, 2001, 4:56:00 PM7/9/01
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Darkhop Somebody <darkho...@home.com> wrote in message news:<3B49D2C5...@home.com>...

> Jarl, WTF, eh? Spamming rec.music.theory wasn't enough for
> ya?

I guess he's notorious on alt.guitar, too.

Michel Forest

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Jul 9, 2001, 4:50:02 PM7/9/01
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Better question: The Bearsssss against Yes?

My prediction: Bearsssss 185 Yes 0

;-)

S-v-a-n-t-e

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Michel Forest <for...@sympatico.ca> vrute-a:

>Better question: The Bearsssss against Yes?

That's hard. The Bears were more pop. Adrian Belew is a mean guitarist
though.

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Blackers

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Jul 9, 2001, 5:20:03 PM7/9/01
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First of all it's JON Lord and Ian GILLAN and it's GLENN Hughes and
RITCHIE Blackmore. Deep Purple plays what I like to call "chance
music" and Yes "no risc music". Do not get me wrong here cause I like
Yes also very much. There different but both good.

Blackers

Reinaldo Alves

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Jul 9, 2001, 5:23:28 PM7/9/01
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"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message news:<wKi27.44043$TW.2...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...
> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?
>
> Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe


- Ritchie (electric guitar) and Howe (accoustic)

>
> Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford

- Ian Paice

>
> Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman

- Jon Lord

>
> Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire

- Chris Squire


>
> Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
> or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson
>

- Ian Gillan

My point of view ! So the new Band is: Blackmore, Squire, Lord, Paice
and Gillan, but fo course two complete different bands and great
musicians. Any band in the world would dream to have at least one of
these guys.

Cheers,

Reinaldo

LRossi3940

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Jul 9, 2001, 5:25:48 PM7/9/01
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>Who is the better musician in each category?

>Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe

Ouch ! A tough one. Too close to call.

>Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford

Ian Paice

>Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman

Rick Wakeman

>Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
>or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire

Chris Squire

>Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson

Ian Gillan

>or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson

Jon Anderson


Peace

Dave Hodgkinson

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Jul 9, 2001, 5:20:55 PM7/9/01
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reinald...@uol.com.br (Reinaldo Alves) writes:

I really wasn't going to bite on this thread but...


> > Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> > or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire
>
> - Chris Squire

C'mon! Rog is the essential one of the whole lot! Crank up the
subwoofer on a recent recording and feel the _groove_....


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WereoBoy

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Jul 9, 2001, 7:48:39 PM7/9/01
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After following me over here from .musictheory Jarl scores again!

I'll be honest with you. Ever since Nuclear Warrior came along I can't stomach
that Yes shit anymore.

Thanks for asking!

Scott

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M e

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Jul 9, 2001, 7:42:44 PM7/9/01
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I have to disagree with most of you , I feel that the guys from Purple
have the edge in every catagory . The reason is their ability to
improvise and that fact that they are not afraid to take chances . I
always found Yes to be a tad on the lifeless side , a little too stiff .
IG sings with much more soul than Jon Anderson , and RB was a much more
exciting player than Howe thanHOWE

Adam Palermo

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Jul 9, 2001, 8:20:26 PM7/9/01
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In article <wKi27.44043$TW.2...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Jarl Sigurd"
<jarls...@geocities.com> wrote:

> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?
>
> Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe
>
> Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford
>
> Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman
>
> Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire
>
> Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
> or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson

Apples and oranges my friend. Although when it comes down to it, I would
say most of the newsgroup would say the Yes crew would win it all. Good
Purple vs Better Yes.

Adam Palermo

Chris Oberst

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Jul 9, 2001, 8:23:15 PM7/9/01
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"Mark Cantin" <anca...@scifac.indstate.edu> wrote in message
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I actually checked out this guy's music on his mp3.com site some time ago.
He's certainly in no position to be judging guitar players under any
circumstances!!!

Just for the record: DP vs. Yes is apples vs. oranges. They're my two
favorite bands and I'd kill (almost) to be able to play in either one...

Christopher Oberst


Adam Palermo

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Jul 9, 2001, 8:22:04 PM7/9/01
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In article <d8e7b0b.01070...@posting.google.com>,
gug...@my-deja.com (gugga) wrote:

> Kind of apples and oranges here

Gee, I thought I said that....

Adam Palermo

Headsoundmixer

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Jul 9, 2001, 10:42:06 PM7/9/01
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> Kind of apples and oranges here
>
Im my opinion you cant compare Purple and Yes. Two different bands, two
different styles, and two different types of music.

Tommy Hittmann


Relayer54

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Jul 10, 2001, 12:08:14 AM7/10/01
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Jarl Sigurd wrote:
>
> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?
>
> Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe
>
> Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford
>
> Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman
>
> Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire
>
> Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
> or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson
>
Scorecard here has Yes leading 5 to 0.
--
Bob LaRegina

Relayer54

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As usual, I was fooled. Didn't seem too unreasonable a post. Got a
bridge for sale?
--
Bob LaRegina

Mike C.

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Jul 10, 2001, 12:16:07 AM7/10/01
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Please. Deep Purple was great. Blackmore is a god. But he couldn't shine
Howe's sneakers. None of the DPs could touch the guys in Yes. And then to
think of Blackmore trying to ruffle Travor Rabin's feathers is even funnier.

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Mike C.

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Oh, please. Chris Squire is miles beyone Glover. Glover is great, Squire is
a fucking monster.


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Not A Speck Of Cereal

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Jul 10, 2001, 1:27:37 AM7/10/01
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As "Mike C." <Funki...@mediaone.net> so eloquently put:
[] Please. Deep Purple was great. Blackmore is a god. But he couldn't shine

[] Howe's sneakers. None of the DPs could touch the guys in Yes. And then to
[] think of Blackmore trying to ruffle Travor Rabin's feathers is even funnier.

Yeah, but it's still apples vs. oranges. Or in this case, another
example of a Jarl-troll designed to get more people to click on his
amp-cast link. Just say no.

Chris

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Tero Honkasalo

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> > If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> > classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> > lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each
category?
> > Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe

If you mean really CLASSIC lineups:
Tommy Bolin is the MAN

> > Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford

Bruford, have to admit....

> > Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman

Rick Wakeman 'cos he played with Sabbath!!!

> > Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> > or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire

Glenn is the best - Chris Squire has still the same sound as when he was
first tuning his bass...that old Rickenbacker is annoying...House of Yes
Live is the proof of that!!!

> > Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
> > or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson

Glenn Hughes!!!!

> Scorecard here has Yes leading 5 to 0.

> Bob LaRegina
No, DP - YES 3-2

T:)

WereoBoy

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Jul 10, 2001, 2:37:31 AM7/10/01
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More silly shit.

When is Everyone gonna grow up here?

Total Abandon

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On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 06:56:12 -0700, "Jarl Sigurd"
<jarls...@geocities.com> wrote:

>
>If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
>classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
>lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?

Typical!!! The fans of Yes have got nothing more to expect from their
senior musicians and are now trying to frustrate other fans by telling
them that " their" musicians are better...tatatatata ....sounds like
little boy's.

I just hate cross posters. If you get bored with Yes...stay in your
own newsgroup and if there is nothing happening there.....start
another hobby or buy some Purple records

ah...that makes me feel better ;)


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Theus

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"Total Abandon" <aba...@dolfijn.nl> wrote in message
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He isn't from alt.music.yes. Someone over here thinks he is from
rec.music.progressive. So you made your rant at the wrong group.

--
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loaf, give a stone.

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Total Abandon

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 04:04:55 -0400, "Theus" <mejs...@netcom.ca>
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> He isn't from alt.music.yes. Someone over here thinks he is from
>rec.music.progressive. So you made your rant at the wrong group.

<sigh> I just hate cross posters...now anybody knows. BTW: progressive
music????

S-v-a-n-t-e

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"Tero Honkasalo" <tero.ho...@nokia.com> vrute-a:

>> > Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman
>Rick Wakeman 'cos he played with Sabbath!!!

Huh? When?

JJ (UK)

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Definitely say no, his 'music' is, I'm afraid to say, quite, quite awful...

JJ (UK)

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>
> First of all it's JON Lord and Ian GILLAN and it's GLENN Hughes and
> RITCHIE Blackmore. Deep Purple plays what I like to call "chance
> music" and Yes "no risc music".

Wait a minute. I work on RISC machines for a living and have never heard DP
coming out of one of those X4D processors....


/John
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Lugosi

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> Oh, please. Chris Squire is miles beyone Glover. Glover is great, Squire
is
> a fucking monster.

Apples & oranges again. You can hardly have a basis for comparing these two
bands when their styles are so dissimilar. In Yes there were many points
where the bass was practically the lead instrument, whereas in Purple I can
recall only two songs where the bass took a (very short) break, and those
tunes hardly ever showed up in setlists.

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Lugosi

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"S-v-a-n-t-e" <sva...@deep-purple.com_REMOVE_> wrote in message
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> "Tero Honkasalo" <tero.ho...@nokia.com> vrute-a:
>
> >> > Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman
> >Rick Wakeman 'cos he played with Sabbath!!!
>
> Huh? When?

The Sabbath Bloody Sabbath album. No great shakes on RWs part.


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Lugosi

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"Theus" <mejs...@netcom.ca> wrote in message
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> He isn't from alt.music.yes. Someone over here thinks he is from
> rec.music.progressive. So you made your rant at the wrong group.

Actually he just wanders around, filling in the newsgroups line as the whim
strikes. He knows how partisan fans can get.

Being a fan of both DP and Yes, there's no point *whatsoever* in comparing
them.


/John
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andy749

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What is Yes up to these days?

Reinaldo Alves

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Dave Hodgkinson <da...@hodgkinson.org> wrote in message news:<m3lmlx6...@hodgkinson.org>...
> reinald...@uol.com.br (Reinaldo Alves) writes:
>
> I really wasn't going to bite on this thread but...
>
>
> > > Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> > > or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire
> >
> > - Chris Squire
>
> C'mon! Rog is the essential one of the whole lot! Crank up the
> subwoofer on a recent recording and feel the _groove_....

- Yeah, it was just a quick pick. I must admit that Roger has done a
wonderful job in Purple and improved a lot over the years technically
speaking and let愀 not forget that he is also an excellent producer.
Roger always said he is not a great bass player, the best around, with
lots of other better players , and that is Ok, he is Deep Purple bass
player and IMHO he is better than ever. Tony Levin, Stuart Hamm, Dave
Larue, Geddy Lee are the best bass players in the world for me (maybe
I forgot some other names here). Just an opinion and it is like pizza
here. Everyone has their personal preferences.

- The better here is not to compare. Who could win Blackmore in 72, 73
?? But today, many guitar players are doing better records than
Blackmore (guitar playing). The same with Eric Clapton. In his Cream
and Blind Faith years his work was amazing. But his solo career, at
least in the last 15 years is horrible for me.

- We can愒 forget also that they play different styles and I kind of
like Yes very much, but Purple is definitely the band for my ears.

The MK-II proved to be the best live rock慨愉oll in the whole world in
my opinion, MY opinion.

These battle-threads between bands are very difficult. There are
times I hear a lot of Uriah Heep, then Glenn Hughes, then Rush, then
Yes, always Purple !

Cheers,

Reinaldo

Sven Milliam

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How about da mini Bearrsss? And what if mini Ditka defected to da Yes
side? He and Squire could munch down on bratwurst and pat each others'
bellies in a conquering ritual, conjuring a big thunderstorm that
would strike lightning on da Bearrss and render them powerless and
vulnerable to harp-induced naive environmentalist Jon Anderson
hypnotic shock.

Yes wins!

Michel Forest <for...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<3B4A18FA...@sympatico.ca>...
> Better question: The Bearsssss against Yes?
>
> My prediction: Bearsssss 185 Yes 0
>
> ;-)


>
> Jarl Sigurd wrote:
>
> > If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> > classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> > lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?
> >

> > Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe
> >

> > Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford
> >

> > Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman
> >

> > Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> > or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire
> >

> > Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
> > or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson
> >

> > Jarl Sigurd
> >
> > to listen to my first 3 attempts at composing Heavy Metal Music,
> > visit: http://www.ampcast.com/search/band.php?id=9098

Bob Russell

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in article 95486bc.01071...@posting.google.com, Sven Milliam at
sven...@hotmail.com wrote on 7/10/01 11:32 AM:

> How about da mini Bearrsss? And what if mini Ditka defected to da Yes
> side? He and Squire could munch down on bratwurst and pat each others'
> bellies in a conquering ritual, conjuring a big thunderstorm that
> would strike lightning on da Bearrss and render them powerless and
> vulnerable to harp-induced naive environmentalist Jon Anderson
> hypnotic shock.
>
> Yes wins!

This reply intrigued me, so I decided to run a computer simulation: Yes 1973
vs. Deep Purple 1973. It was an intriguing matchup; Yes' overall smaller
size and lighter weight seemed an advantage in the early stages of the
match. In the end, however, Purple's size/strength coupled with Blackmore's
ruthlessness wore the Yes-men down in the end. It was indeed a titanic
struggle of epic proportions; one unexpected side-effect of this simulated
battle was that the Federated States of Micronesia were destroyed, thereby
ridding the Internet of 12.47 percent of its spam traffic.
-- Bob Russell
http://www.uncwil.edu/people/russellr

Theus

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"Total Abandon" <aba...@dolfijn.nl> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 04:04:55 -0400, "Theus" <mejs...@netcom.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
> > He isn't from alt.music.yes. Someone over here thinks he is from
> >rec.music.progressive. So you made your rant at the wrong group.
>
> <sigh> I just hate cross posters...now anybody knows. BTW: progressive
> music????
>

Progressive Rock. It included bands like Yes, Genesis, ELP, King
Crimson, etc. and there are still a lot of under ground progressive bands
around today.

*Legion*

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Jul 10, 2001, 2:18:15 PM7/10/01
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> He isn't from alt.music.yes. Someone over here thinks he is from
>rec.music.progressive. So you made your rant at the wrong group.

He's not really from rec.music.progressive either. Believe me, we
don't want him.

Jarl basically has two functions in life:
1) troll newsgroups promoting his latest MP3.com offerings
2) troll newsgroups starting fights.

He has become a joke over here at rec.music.progressive, and LONG
before that, he established himself as a joke at rec.music.classical.

Don't blame alt.music.yet or rec.music.progressive. It's just the work
of one mobile troll.

-- *L*

howldog

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Jul 10, 2001, 2:46:49 PM7/10/01
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:18:15 GMT, *Legion* <legion_@_vgpalace.com>
wrote:

>> He isn't from alt.music.yes. Someone over here thinks he is from
>>rec.music.progressive. So you made your rant at the wrong group.
>
>He's not really from rec.music.progressive either. Believe me, we
>don't want him.
>

just relax and go with the flow, man.

He's just trying to solidify his position as world's worst guitarist.
So every person on earth has to hear him, first.

CountV/John T

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Jul 10, 2001, 3:07:25 PM7/10/01
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On 1-07-10 06.09, Relayer54 <Rela...@worldnet.att.net> thought of this to
say:

> Mark Cantin wrote:
>>
>> Darkhop Somebody <darkho...@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:<3B49D2C5...@home.com>...
>>> Jarl, WTF, eh? Spamming rec.music.theory wasn't enough for
>>> ya?
>>
>> I guess he's notorious on alt.guitar, too.
>
> As usual, I was fooled. Didn't seem too unreasonable a post.

Posting a 'which band is better?' post to two newsgroups devoted to the two
bands in question (plus some others where you're sure to have opinionated
people) is about as obvious as you can get in the flame-bait stakes, really.

--
CountV/John T
"Faith is a tool, not an end in itself" - Marc O. Bell

Gamelan

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Jul 10, 2001, 6:07:24 AM7/10/01
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If yes is no risc music, wouldn't they use g4s or something?


"Crumar Mainman" <rusho...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Blackers come on down:


>
> >First of all it's JON Lord and Ian GILLAN and it's GLENN Hughes and
> >RITCHIE Blackmore. Deep Purple plays what I like to call "chance
> >music" and Yes "no risc music".
>

> I want to hear Deep Purple's take on the John Cage catalog.
>
> Also Yes' landmark work with the 486 DX4/100.
>
> --
> "Where to? Your level of idioticy?
> Or are you a queer-bait, mule humper?" - Drencr...@aol.com


Kris

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Jul 11, 2001, 12:56:32 AM7/11/01
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andy749 <and...@webtv.net> wrote

> What is Yes up to these days?
>

Touring with an orchestra (seriously).


A y E

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> > > Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> > > or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire
> >
> > - Chris Squire
>
> C'mon! Rog is the essential one of the whole lot! Crank up the
> subwoofer on a recent recording and feel the _groove_....
>
C'mon Dave, It is true that Rog is the essential, but Chris is much more
than that. And musically even more important to the band than Rog (adn it's
difficult to say that to as I love Dp more than Yes, but it is more a
quiestion of feelings, as Yes are amazing)

Alberto


D. P. Roberts

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Jul 11, 2001, 11:33:49 AM7/11/01
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> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?

[read this with a "Sprockets" German accent]

Your problem here is that Yes BORES me. I had a college friend who
had all their albums and played guitar along with their records, but I
never liked them. I had a fraternity brother who was deeply into
Jethro Tull, and I could listen to them for hours. Yes BORES me.

Headsoundmixer

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Jul 11, 2001, 12:57:02 PM7/11/01
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Why bother doing this? Forget it comparing Yes to Purple and who is a better
bass player, or who is a better guitar player. What is this high school? You
cant compare Yes to Deep Purple, it does not work. Two different bands, with
two very different styles.


Tommy Hittmann

Bob

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Jul 11, 2001, 1:07:22 PM7/11/01
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I agree with the comments about high school and it is a boring thread anyway.

Bob

Steve Marshall

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Jul 11, 2001, 3:16:44 PM7/11/01
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I guess Yes fans will say the Yes guys are better and the Deep Purple guys
will go for the Purple chaps.
I like both and think both groups contain excellent musicians.

Yes I would say may have more technical merits but music isn't about mere
technical proficiency. You need a bit of humanity in there to make the music
enjoyable.

Deep Purple wins in my view then !

Steve M

"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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>
> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each
category?
>

> Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe
>
> Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford
>
> Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman
>

> Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire
>

MikeY

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Jul 11, 2001, 7:25:14 PM7/11/01
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In article <wKi27.44043$TW.2...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Jarl Sigurd"
<jarls...@geocities.com> wrote:

> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> classic lineups of Deep Purple from the 70's compare with the classic
> lineups of Yes in the 1970's? Who is the better musician in each category?
>
> Guitar: Richie Blackmore vs Steve Howe

Blackmore wins this hands down. Howe was sloppy live (Blackmore was either
putrid or beyond brilliant when on), and Howe did not really improvise
like RB and crew did. But then again, Howe is a totally different style
payer.


>
> Drums: Ian Paice vs Bill Bruford

Not being a drummer i cannot really make judgement here, other than to say
that Paicey is my fave drummer.

>
> Keyboards: John Lord vs Rick Wakeman

Wakeman wins this in my book.Sorry TOMATO. More cersitile and defimnately
much netter when it comes to synth abilities.


>
> Bass: Roger Glover vs Chris Squire
> or: Glen Hughes vs Chris Squire

Boy that is hard. Shoeshine boy Hughes is not in contention here either.
Squire was a more melodic style player, where RG held the bottom end down
and solid.


>
> Vocals: Ian Gillian vs Jon Anderson
> or: David Coverdale vs Jon Anderson

For me between the singers listed it would be Gallons in his prime. If I
had to choose by todays standards, i would likely go woth Coverstale.


There you have my 3 cents worth. Probably more than you wanted too!

MikeY
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Kris

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Headsoundmixer <headsou...@cs.com> wrote in message
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>
> Why bother doing this? Forget it comparing Yes to Purple and who is a
better
> bass player, or who is a better guitar player. What is this high school?
>
>

> Tommy Hittmann

Do we still get to slam Ozzy for his tatoos?


Headsoundmixer

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Jul 12, 2001, 1:38:46 AM7/12/01
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>Do we still get to slam Ozzy for his tatoos?
>

HEY NOW!!!!

Michael Thomas

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Jul 12, 2001, 8:33:56 AM7/12/01
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Aren't we milking this thread a little.

Bob Russell

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Jul 12, 2001, 10:43:47 AM7/12/01
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in article 3B4D9934...@spicatech.com, Michael Thomas at
g...@spicatech.com wrote on 7/12/01 8:33 AM:

> Aren't we milking this thread a little.

Yes. It's a common symptom of Jarl's Insincere Voting Effect, otherwise
known as JIVE.

DShezza

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Jul 12, 2001, 1:21:48 PM7/12/01
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ironically, Bee Gees & Yes have the same management...

DS

"Mind, Body, Heart & Soul...we've got Rock & Roll...and there's nothing they
can do"


Darkhop

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Jul 12, 2001, 1:34:39 PM7/12/01
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Michael Thomas wrote:
>
> Aren't we milking this thread a little.

[massive snip of previous post]

Aren't we not editing the quoted portions or trimming the
headers a lot?


/John
http://www.darkhop.com/
remove "rarely"

Steven Gross

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Jul 12, 2001, 11:06:25 PM7/12/01
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Bee Gees disco is ten times better than Yes's disco. Actually I like early
Bee Gees and hated their commercial sell out. Of course that's colored by
the fact that I hate most disco.
"Michael Thomas" <g...@spicatech.com> wrote in message
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MikeY

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Jul 13, 2001, 12:26:41 PM7/13/01
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Michael Thomas axed:

> Aren't we milking this thread a little.

Got Milk??

MikeY or is it MilkY

Bryson

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Jul 13, 2001, 8:55:45 PM7/13/01
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Two of my fav bands (and gtr plyrs) in my high school years ('76)
I would just love to hear DPmkII to do some Yes tunes (Roundabout,
Heart Of The Sunrise, Siberian...etc.), and Yes play Purple (Hwy Star,
Lazy, Child...etc.).


Tim

Vicstanley

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>Subject: Re: Deep Purple vs Yes
>From: and...@webtv.net (andy749)
>Date: 7/10/01 4:42 AM Central Daylight Time

>What is Yes up to these days?
>

An average of 62 years old. Could Steve Howe possibly look any more cadaverous?

Bob

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Jul 14, 2001, 12:25:36 AM7/14/01
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sounds positively yucky!

Bob

Michael Byerley

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Jul 14, 2001, 11:17:50 AM7/14/01
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Steve Howe: (b. April 8, 1947, London, England)
Chris Squire (b.March 4, 1948, London, England)
Jon Anderson (b. Oct. 25, 1944, Accrington, Lancashire)
Tony Kaye (b. Jan. 11, 1946)
Peter Banks (b. July 7, 1947)
Bill Bruford (b. May 17, 1948)

Avg. 54 or so.... And I am sure that Yes like me aren't as Good as they
Once were, but are as Good Once as they ever were...

Monday, Dec. 11, 1972, Pete Banks with Flash, played headliner at a small
venue for me in Fort Wayne, IN. along with Mott The Hoople, Bull Angus, and
a couple of other bands... After the concert, All of Mott and some of Flash
and the other bands came to a club I owned and jammed until sun up. It was
a great time.. memorable enough that a couple of the guys from Mott wrote me
after they returned to England to thank me for the great time. The club
had a short life of about three years and was destroyed by fire, but during
that time, many, many superb musicians performed there. Some achieved some
measure of success, while most, of course never got "hooked up" with the
industry to achieve the lofty place occupied by the groups we have come to
admire. The perspective would be for example at that time, REO Speedwagon
played at a teeny bop place across town. I looked at them a couple of times
and didn't think they were good enough to play the club just yet. The lead
singer from Bull Angus, Franke Previte, won an oscar for writing "The Time
Of My Life", used in the soundtrack of Dirty Dancing. He had middling
success with his own group Frankie and the Knockouts.

The events of that Monday night are chronicled in Ian Hunters' "Diary of a
Rock Star" on pages 97 to 101 as seen from his viewpoint. The Drummer he
refers to was the drummer from Bull Angus in its' second incarnation, Paul
Castator. He kicked doubles and was a previous Bass player. I think his
Bass experience uniquely made him able to connect to and interact with the
three different Bass players I had been able to see him play with in as many
bands. He was really spectacular. Last I heard (80 'ish) he was with Jerry
Reed. The organ player he mentions was Ron Piccolo and I don't know what
happened to Ronnie. Oh Well........


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MikeY

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In article <20010713205542...@ng-cr1.aol.com>,
vicst...@aol.coma (Vicstanley) wrote:


> An average of 62 years old. Could Steve Howe possibly look any more
cadaverous?

He looks like Yoda out of Star Wars!

MikeY

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