Ian Gillan "What I did on my vacation"
Christian Rutz
I found this CD in a second-hand store
"Ian Gillan-What I did on my vacation"
Produced and copyrighted 1986 by 10 Records Ltd.
Tracklist:
Scarabus
Money lender
Puget sound
No easy way
If I sing softly
I'll rip your spine out
New Orleans
Mutually assured destruction
You're so right
No laughing in heaven
Long gone
Trouble
Bluesy blue sea
Lucille
I've never seen this one in regular shops.
Has anyone information if this is a legitimate release??
Tim Hall
<ca...@online-club.de> wrote:
>
>"Ian Gillan-What I did on my vacation"
>
>Produced and copyrighted 1986 by 10 Records Ltd.
>
>Tracklist:
>Scarabus
>Money lender
>Puget sound
>No easy way
>If I sing softly
>I'll rip your spine out
>New Orleans
>Mutually assured destruction
>You're so right
>No laughing in heaven
>Long gone
>Trouble
>Bluesy blue sea
>Lucille
>
>I've never seen this one in regular shops.
>
>Has anyone information if this is a legitimate release??
I vaguely remember it coming out, so I guess it is.
--
Tim Hall, timjh (at) csi.com
* http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/timjh
"Divide by cucumber error: Please reinstall universe and reboot"
Jim Collins
Christian Rutz wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I found this CD in a second-hand store
>
> "Ian Gillan-What I did on my vacation"
>
> Produced and copyrighted 1986 by 10 Records Ltd.
>
> Tracklist:
> Scarabus
> Money lender
> Puget sound
> No easy way
> If I sing softly
> I'll rip your spine out
> New Orleans
> Mutually assured destruction
> You're so right
> No laughing in heaven
> Long gone
> Trouble
> Bluesy blue sea
> Lucille
>
> I've never seen this one in regular shops.
>
> Has anyone information if this is a legitimate release??
Yes, this is an official release. This was originally released as a
double album, with 4 tracks dropped to fit it onto a single CD. This was
the first collection of IGB/Gillan material available on CD I believe.
It came out in 1986, if I recall correctly. Too bad they picked 4 of the
strongest songs to cut for the CD, Unchain Your Brain, Mad Elaine,
Vengeance, & Time And Again. Cheers, Jim C.
Jim J
>Too bad they picked 4 of the strongest songs to cut for the CD, >Unchain
Your Brain, Mad Elaine, Vengeance, & Time And >Again. Cheers,
Jim C.
>
That was the reason why I bought the double vinyl at the time. Also I didn't
have a CD player in 1986. I couldn't believe it when I saw that Vengeance
had been dropped on the CD. That's probably my favourite Gillan song.
--
Cheers,
Jimmy
web - http://www.bigfoot.com/~jimjohnston
DP section last updated 15 November 1998
Carol Lindsay
Christian Rutz wrote in message
<01HW.B29878EC0...@news.online-club.de>...
>Hello All,
>
>I found this CD in a second-hand store
>
>"Ian Gillan-What I did on my vacation"
>
>Produced and copyrighted 1986 by 10 Records Ltd.
>
>
>Has anyone information if this is a legitimate release??
>
>
>
Hello All
I'm a newcomer to this newsgroup thing, and am a huge Deep
Purple/Gillan/Rainbow fan. I have been working my way through the Purple
messages and came across this one.
In answer to Christian's query, I remember this album coming out at the time
that Gillan was in dispute with his record label,( Virgin I think.) He had
signed a deal to record a set number of albums but wanted away from Virgin
to record other material possibly with the Purple reformation in mind. As a
compromise this album was compiled and released thereby releasing Gillan
from his contractual obligation. I hope this info helps.
Tony
Trond
> Yes, this is an official release. This was originally released as a
>double album, with 4 tracks dropped to fit it onto a single CD. This was
>the first collection of IGB/Gillan material available on CD I believe.
>strongest songs to cut for the CD, Unchain Your Brain, Mad Elaine,
>Vengeance, & Time And Again. Cheers, Jim C.
This is indeed a legal release, and note; this is (AFAIK) the only
place you can find the studio version of "Lucille" on CD (taken from
the "No Laughing in Heaven" EP), as it was not included on the Virgin
CD release of "Future Shock". (Indeed, I don't think the 7" edit of
"No Laughing in Heaven" from said release is available on CD
anywhere.)
Cheers,
--
Trond
Trond
>I'm a newcomer to this newsgroup thing, and am a huge Deep
>Purple/Gillan/Rainbow fan. I have been working my way through the Purple
>messages and came across this one.
>In answer to Christian's query, I remember this album coming out at the time
>that Gillan was in dispute with his record label,( Virgin I think.) He had
>signed a deal to record a set number of albums but wanted away from Virgin
>to record other material possibly with the Purple reformation in mind. As a
>compromise this album was compiled and released thereby releasing Gillan
>from his contractual obligation. I hope this info helps.
I think there was one more album on his contract, and hence the Gillan
Glover album also was released on Virgin, two years later (1988). Ian
then went on to record the "South Africa" single (summer 1988), an
anti-apartheid-song written by Bernie Marsden, this was also released
on Virgin. Ian seemingly was so appalled by the lack of promotion by
Virgin on this release, that he sent Richard Branson a long letter
stating why he didn't want to work for Virgin anymore, at least that's
how the story was presented in Darker than Blue way back.
Cheers,
--
Trond
DShezza
>anti-apartheid-song written by Bernie Marsden, this was also released on
Virgin
was this on an album of any kind?
>Ian seemingly was so appalled by the lack of promotion by Virgin on this
release, that he sent Richard Branson a long letter stating why he didn't want
to work for Virgin anymore
this makes a lot of sense for me, as I thought this song had real potential,
musically and marketing-wise, at the time. I remember thinking, when they did
some Anti-Apartheid show at Wembley Stadium (and televised it worldwide...well,
probably not South Africa, Cuba, or North Korea and assorted other places),
that IG should've been up there at some point performing this song. But, if
the song wasn't attached to anything bigger (an album), it may have been
difficult to promote...
DS
"Mind, Body, Heart & Soul...we've got Rock & Roll...and there's nothing they
can do"
John Shepard
extended version) both as bonus tracks.
DShezza <dsh...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19981214085648...@ng-fb2.aol.com>...
DShezza
>extended version) both as bonus tracks.
wasn't this song done in the mid-to-late 80's? Magic came out in 1982. I
think it is on my remastered Metal Blade US release as one of the many bonus
tracks, if that's what you are referring to...it certainly wasn't on the
imported vinyl I got around the time the album was first released.
kevin....@nottingham.ac.uk
(DShezza) wrote:
Yes, the two versions of SA (and, come to that, the b-side 'John') are
'out of sequence' on the Magic CD. There are two other tracks on the Magic
CD which *were* recorded roughly around the time of the album but not
included on it nor appeared as single b-sides (Helter Skelter and
Smokestack Lightning). HS, however, did appear on the 'Trouble' CD
compilation. There are other instances on that series of CDs where tracks
are out of sequence, eg 'Trouble' and 'Higher & Higher' appear on Future
Shock but really belong with Glory Road (except *that* CD is full with
other FGFO stuff...am I digressing here? ;) Now the real question vis-a-vis
unreleased Gillan related material is WHEN WILL THE REPO DEPO STUFF NOT
RECYCLED ON DREAMCATCHER GET RELEASED. Sorry for shouting.
Trond
>>"South Africa" was on Gillan's Magic CD in 2 forms (original and 12"
>>extended version) both as bonus tracks.
>
>wasn't this song done in the mid-to-late 80's? Magic came out in 1982. I
>think it is on my remastered Metal Blade US release as one of the many bonus
>tracks, if that's what you are referring to...it certainly wasn't on the
>imported vinyl I got around the time the album was first released.
"South Africa" was just a single back in 1988, when it was released.
When Virgin later released all the Gillan and Ian Gillan Band albums
on CD with lots of bonus material (chiefly nearly all the non-album
single cuts), the "South Africa" single was included as bonus material
on the last ordinary Gillan album, "Magic" (original release 1982).
The Virgin reissues of the Gillan albums on CD were, as you say,
licensed and released by Metal Blade in the US.
Cheers,
--
Trond
McDana66
dsh...@aol.com (DShezza) writes:
>this makes a lot of sense for me, as I thought this song had real potential,
>musically and marketing-wise, at the time. I remember thinking, when they
>did
>some Anti-Apartheid show at Wembley Stadium (and televised it
>worldwide...well,
>probably not South Africa, Cuba, or North Korea and assorted other places),
>that IG should've been up there at some point performing this song. But, if
>the song wasn't attached to anything bigger (an album), it may have been
>difficult to promote...
I had that same question, "Why wasn't Ian singing at the Nelson Mandela
concert" and asked him when the band were on the radio program, Rockline, back
in 1988. Ian didn't answer the question. He sort of changed the subject and
started talking gibberish about the BBC. Maybe he wasn't asked.
DShezza
Thanks. I thought this was the case. I'd say that this fact goes someway
toward explaining the difficulty in promoting it - was there a video for this
track?
DShezza
>concert" and asked him when the band were on the radio program, Rockline,
>back
>in 1988. Ian didn't answer the question. He sort of changed the subject and
>started talking gibberish about the BBC. Maybe he wasn't asked.
Interesting - I have a tape of that interview but I don't remember the
question...some crack about Jon calling it the "Blee Blee something-or-other" -
am I warm?
Maybe IG was mad at Virgin, or his management or whatever. He sounded to me
like he'd had a few drinks that night. The music biz makes liars of everyone,
I'm afraid. I recall RG stating in that interview that NP wasn't a contractual
obligation or the last album for PolyGram...which, of course, it was. The
music biz is a bit like politics or a hot dog factory - if you saw what went on
behind the scenes, you'd be disinclined toward accepting the final product -
maybe.
Killans - First And Last And Always
DShezza <dsh...@aol.com> wrote:
>>"South Africa" was just a single back in 1988, when it was released.
>
>Thanks. I thought this was the case. I'd say that this fact goes someway
>toward explaining the difficulty in promoting it - was there a video for this
>track?
Not that I ever saw. Then again, there was then (and still is now, for that
matter) almost no airplay for videos that weren't straightforward chart
pop here in the UK, so I wouldn't have seen one even if it did exist.
At least, not on terrestrial TV - which, back then, was pretty much all
there was.
I did hear the single played on the radio once - but that was on the
Friday Rock Show, which was Radio 1's specialist heavy rock/metal show
and DJ'd by Purple fan Tommy Vance, so that doesn't really count.
Bloody good track, by the way.
Mike
--
Mike Collins
Killans - First And Last And Always
McDana66 <mcda...@aol.comspamnot> wrote:
>
> dsh...@aol.com (DShezza) writes:
>
>>this makes a lot of sense for me, as I thought this song had real potential,
>>musically and marketing-wise, at the time. I remember thinking, when they
>>did
>>some Anti-Apartheid show at Wembley Stadium (and televised it
>>worldwide...well,
>>probably not South Africa, Cuba, or North Korea and assorted other places),
>>that IG should've been up there at some point performing this song. But, if
>>the song wasn't attached to anything bigger (an album), it may have been
>>difficult to promote...
>
>concert" and asked him when the band were on the radio program, Rockline, back
>in 1988. Ian didn't answer the question. He sort of changed the subject and
>started talking gibberish about the BBC. Maybe he wasn't asked.
I very much doubt he was. As I remember, the performers were pretty much
limited to then-chart megastars and South African musicians. Gillan wasn't
either.
Killans - First And Last And Always
Very true. The various comments from band members over the years, toeing
the management line about the latest album/line-up/sacking are a sad
evidence of that. And I don't mean that in a snide way - it's just a fact
of professional life that sometimes, issues of diplomacy (not to mention
PR) become more important than barefaced honesty. Not just in the music
biz, but in other walks of life too. Life is rarely black-and-white.
>I recall RG stating in that interview that NP wasn't a contractual
>obligation or the last album for PolyGram...which, of course, it was.
At around the same time, I remember an interview on the Friday Rock Show
(BBC Radio 1) in which one of the band members (can't remember who)
claimed that there were no studio overdubs on NP. I've heard several
people on here who I trust as being knowledgeable claim that that's not
the case, and that there *are* overdubs. To be fair, the same band member
was honest about the splicing of performances from different nights that
was used to construct the tracks on NP.
>The music biz is a bit like politics or a hot dog factory - if you saw
>what went on behind the scenes, you'd be disinclined toward accepting
>the final product - maybe.
Well, quite. I've never really been into the whole here-worship thing -
I've never felt a need to put musicians on a pedestal, and look up to
them as people - so it doesn't really bother me the sort of stuff that
goes on. I don't need to like the people in order to enjoy the music.
I kind of feel that the people who do worship their musicians as paragons
of humanity need to have their illusions shattered a bit.
(Kind of like those who expect their politicians to be morally superior
to the rest of us, too - but that's a different flamewar :-) )
Killans - First And Last And Always
Killans - First And Last And Always <mcol...@nyx.net> wrote:
>
>Well, quite. I've never really been into the whole here-worship thing -
That should, of course, say "hero-worship". I really need to get into the
habit of proofreading.
Brad DeMoranville
>
> >I had that same question, "Why wasn't Ian singing at the Nelson Mandela
> >concert" and asked him when the band were on the radio program, Rockline,
> >back
> >in 1988. Ian didn't answer the question. He sort of changed the subject and
> >started talking gibberish about the BBC. Maybe he wasn't asked.
>
> question...some crack about Jon calling it the "Blee Blee something-or-other" -
> am I warm?
>
> Maybe IG was mad at Virgin, or his management or whatever. He sounded to me
> I'm afraid. I recall RG stating in that interview that NP wasn't a contractual
> obligation or the last album for PolyGram...which, of course, it was. The
> music biz is a bit like politics or a hot dog factory - if you saw what went on
> behind the scenes, you'd be disinclined toward accepting the final product -
> maybe.
My very limited experience with the full-on "music biz" was in the
mid-eighties when we were being "seriously considered" by two major
labels and a pretty serious indie. They made it sound like we were
slated to be the Next Big Thing and a lot of lip service was paid to the
promotional approach they would take. We -- ever the wishful thinkers --
bought it all. It was really a great time, even if it was a sham in the
end.
Wined (sort of), dined (sort of).
Never signed.
I did get close enough to hear stories of how seriously badly musicians
can get screwed, though. *Brrr*
Bye!
Brad
Brad DeMoranville
>
> In article <19981215090913...@ng-cc1.aol.com>,
> DShezza <dsh...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
>
> the management line about the latest album/line-up/sacking are a sad
> evidence of that. And I don't mean that in a snide way - it's just a fact
> of professional life that sometimes, issues of diplomacy (not to mention
> PR) become more important than barefaced honesty. Not just in the music
> biz, but in other walks of life too. Life is rarely black-and-white.
>
> >obligation or the last album for PolyGram...which, of course, it was.
>
> (BBC Radio 1) in which one of the band members (can't remember who)
> claimed that there were no studio overdubs on NP. I've heard several
> people on here who I trust as being knowledgeable claim that that's not
> the case, and that there *are* overdubs.
Gillan seriously suggests this in his book -- all but outright says it.
>
> Well, quite. I've never really been into the whole here-worship thing -
> I've never felt a need to put musicians on a pedestal, and look up to
> them as people -
Hmm, pedestals are out, but I will admit to having a large amount of
respect and admiration for the successes DP has achieved and the quality
of product they have produced. I can look up to that. If that makes me a
rube or something, so be it. :-)
Bye!
Brad
McDana66
(DShezza) writes:
>>I had that same question, "Why wasn't Ian singing at the Nelson Mandela
>>concert" and asked him when the band were on the radio program, Rockline,
>>back
>>in 1988. Ian didn't answer the question. He sort of changed the subject and
>>started talking gibberish about the BBC. Maybe he wasn't asked.
>
>Interesting - I have a tape of that interview but I don't remember the
>question...some crack about Jon calling it the "Blee Blee something-or-other"
>-
>am I warm?
Red Hot, but don't bother digging it up and listening to it. It's not worth it
:-)
Dana
Killans - First And Last And Always
Brad DeMoranville <brad-...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Killans - First And Last And Always wrote:
>>
>> In article <19981215090913...@ng-cc1.aol.com>,
>> DShezza <dsh...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I recall RG stating in that interview that NP wasn't a contractual
>> >obligation or the last album for PolyGram...which, of course, it was.
>>
>> At around the same time, I remember an interview on the Friday Rock Show
>> (BBC Radio 1) in which one of the band members (can't remember who)
>> claimed that there were no studio overdubs on NP. I've heard several
>> people on here who I trust as being knowledgeable claim that that's not
>> the case, and that there *are* overdubs.
>
>Gillan seriously suggests this in his book -- all but outright says it.
Stop it - you're spoiling the plot! I've just got to the chapter where
Gillan joins Black Sabbath. I'm dying to know how it all turns out!
:-)
>> Well, quite. I've never really been into the whole here-worship thing -
>> I've never felt a need to put musicians on a pedestal, and look up to
>> them as people -
>
>Hmm, pedestals are out, but I will admit to having a large amount of
>respect and admiration for the successes DP has achieved and the quality
>of product they have produced. I can look up to that. If that makes me a
>rube or something, so be it. :-)
Oh, I have an enormous amount of respect their musical achievements and
talents, certainly. And, really, that's the only kind of respect I need
to have for musicians, in order to enjoy their music. It's not important
to me what kind of people they are, because I don't need to turn them
into heroes to worship.
Of course, that's not to say that I can't or haven't formed favourable
opinions of the guys as people, through what little we get to see of their
personalities (and particularly through the contact I've had online).
But if I hadn't, that wouldn't have lessened my enjoyment of their music,
or affected my feelings as a "fan" at all. It's not necessary for me to
even see their personalities, or to like what I see. If I do, well,
then that's a bonus :-)
Trond
[Nobody's Perfect]
>> At around the same time, I remember an interview on the Friday Rock Show
>> (BBC Radio 1) in which one of the band members (can't remember who)
>> claimed that there were no studio overdubs on NP. I've heard several
>> people on here who I trust as being knowledgeable claim that that's not
>> the case, and that there *are* overdubs.
>
>Gillan seriously suggests this in his book -- all but outright says it.
Gillan in an interview after he was fired in 1989; "When we recorded,
sorry, mixed 'Nobody's Perfect'..."
Indicates the same thing, I guess. Although he did categorically state
that there were no overdubs in the PR interviews he did for the album
in 1988. ;-)
Cheers,
--
Trond
blks...@fcl-us.net
mcol...@nyx.net (Killans - First And Last And Always) wrote:
> In article <19981215090913...@ng-cc1.aol.com>,
> DShezza <dsh...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >I recall RG stating in that interview that NP wasn't a contractual
> >obligation or the last album for PolyGram...which, of course, it was.
> At around the same time, I remember an interview on the Friday Rock Show
> (BBC Radio 1) in which one of the band members (can't remember who)
> claimed that there were no studio overdubs on NP. I've heard several
> people on here who I trust as being knowledgeable claim that that's not
> the case, and that there *are* overdubs. To be fair, the same band member
> was honest about the splicing of performances from different nights that
> was used to construct the tracks on NP.
Yeah, and on that same interview one of them opined that NP stood right up
there with MIJ... as in "that was then, this is now"...
Mark.
--
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