Best ballad....
Harrie Hendriksen
Yes Child In Time is a contender.
But will it have compatition of those classic tracks like Mistreated, Holy
Man, Soldier Of Fortune, You Keep On Moving, Wasted Sunsets, Sometimes I
Feel Like Screaming or Fingers To The Bone ??
Is CIT in your eyes a real 'ballad' ??
Or does SOF deserves such a title ??
Let me know people.
Harrie
--
"Listening to Deep Purple reminiscing of old days - Play It Loud"
Biff Byford/Saxon
FH
(in article <50Q5e.46744$Sc7....@amsnews05.chello.com>):
This is difficult... Actually, I think Coverdale is a much better ballad
singer then Ian Gillan (I know one day I'll get hate mail from all the Gillan
lovers in the world :)) ) But my money goes to the Gypsy, and then the Live
in Paris version to be precise. Maybe not the best but so wonderful from an
emotional and power point of view.
If I had to choose a Gillan ballad I think it would be from JCS. Your
question about CIT is a damn good one, its like BoRhap from Queen isn't it?
What the hell is it exactly? Personally I like to describe it as one of the
few songs that pushed the limits and took the band into a land that very very
few groups have reached. Purple with Coverdale got close on You Keep On
Moving though.
Good weekend!
FH
Halmyre
CIT is more of an epic than a ballad!
My fave ballad would be Soldier Of Fortune.
Halmyre
Jeff Cook
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> What was the most haunting, breathtakin' ballad Purple ever released ??
>
> Yes Child In Time is a contender.
> But will it have compatition of those classic tracks like Mistreated, Holy
> Man, Soldier Of Fortune, You Keep On Moving, Wasted Sunsets, Sometimes I
> Feel Like Screaming or Fingers To The Bone ??
>
> Is CIT in your eyes a real 'ballad' ??
> Or does SOF deserves such a title ??
>
> Let me know people.
>
> Harrie
> --
of great ones on Bananas too. Having said that, Smoke On The Water fits the
bill as a ballad better than any other song because it's as close to a
newspaper account of a story as you'll ever find in a song. Maybe not the
most breath-taking, but definitely the most influential in terms of Deep
Purple's career.
Jeff
P.S. I can't wait for Gillan's take on the "royal" wedding taking place as
I type this...
gatesofbabblelawn
"Harrie Hendriksen" <h.hend...@chello.nl> wrote:
Wasted Sunsets.
slumpy
of Jeff Cook, saying:
> P.S. I can't wait for Gillan's take on the "royal" wedding taking
> place as I type this...
You are very very disturbed.
--
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Daniele Purrone
> What was the most haunting, breathtakin' ballad Purple ever released ??
Soldier Of Fortune.
> Is CIT in your eyes a real 'ballad' ??
No, not really.
Daniele
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Wasted Sunsets & Sometimes I Feel Like Screaming. :)
Lenore
Steve
>
> Yes Child In Time is a contender.
> But will it have compatition of those classic tracks like Mistreated, Holy
> Man, Soldier Of Fortune, You Keep On Moving, Wasted Sunsets, Sometimes I
> Feel Like Screaming or Fingers To The Bone ??
>
> Is CIT in your eyes a real 'ballad' ??
> Or does SOF deserves such a title ??
>
> Let me know people.
CIT is not a ballad. Ballads don't have extended bad-ass guitar solos in the
middle of them.
IMO, SOF and Wasted Sunsets are the only true ballads you mention, and of
those, I'd choose Soldier Of Fortune. Haunted is pretty good, too.
Mistreated - more a blues tune.
Holy Man - C'mon now...
SIFLS - more an 'epic'
YKOM - more like the dreaded 'power ballad', which doesn't really count as a
'ballad'.
FTTB - jams too much, and subject matter doesn't jibe with true ballad-dom.
David Meadows
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>
> Yes Child In Time is a contender.
> But will it have compatition of those classic tracks like Mistreated, Holy
> Man, Soldier Of Fortune, You Keep On Moving, Wasted Sunsets, Sometimes I
> Feel Like Screaming or Fingers To The Bone ??
>
> Is CIT in your eyes a real 'ballad' ??
> Or does SOF deserves such a title ??
Good question. I don't think CIT is a ballad (it's a prog rock epic) so I
won't pick that. SOF probably is, but if it is then When a Blind Man Cries
is too... and so it becomes a choice between those two songs and I honestly
wouldn't want to pick one over the other. It's a draw ;-)
--
David Meadows
"From me, goodbye and God bless. I hope you enjoyed the show."
Tommy Vance, 1943 - 2005
Jeff Cook
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bal·lad
n.
1.
1. A narrative poem, often of folk origin and intended to be sung,
consisting of simple stanzas and usually having a refrain.
2. The music for such a poem.
2. A popular song especially of a romantic or sentimental nature.
I guess that leaves Mistreated out. "Woe is me" isn't exactly a narrative.
Jeff
Rob
Rob
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Scoot
wide category. A ballad, according to variious dictionaries is:
1. A narrative poem, often of folk origin and intended to be sung,
consisting of simple stanzas and usually having a refrain.
2. The music for such a poem.
2. A popular song especially of a romantic or sentimental nature.
No mention that it must be acoustic, nor is the a requirement that it
be mid to slow tempo. No mention that it must fall under the June,
Moon, Spoon rhyming pattern. So, what makes a good ballad under the
umbrella of DP.
My first inclination is to suggest Soldier of Fortune by MK III, it
fits the traditional ballad format, as does Anyones Daughter by MK II.
Acoustic, poetic, a form of narrative poem. Yet there is another way
to measure a ballad, and that is in the form of tragedy. Lynyrd
Skynyrd did Ballad Of Curtis Loew, Bob Dylan had Ballad of a Thin Man.
Sgt. Barry Sadler had Ballad of The Green Beret and Johnny Cash had
Ballad of Ira Hayes. These are all narrative forms of music, relating
a story of an experience personal to the singer, or sug to pass along
the legend. All with a bit of a tragic conclusion. So, using that
criteria, I'm going to suggest that "Smooth Dancer" from the Who Do We
Think We Are? album/CD qualifies. It has everything that makes up a
good ballad. The narrative details the break down in communications
and respect in DP, specifically between RB & IG. It is a story. One
that IG hoped would be heard by management who would then help and
guide the decaying business venture out of the slippery slope in which
it had found itself. And it eventually ends badly. Ian leaves the
band, Roger soon follows when he's fired for "business reasons",
leaving the most successful, most influencial DP MK nothing but a
memory for those of us lucky to be there at the time, and a myth heaped
in sentimentality for those who discovered their history later on.
Despite Thomas Wolfes warnings, they have attempted to go home again
with varying degrees of success. Sometimes for the good, sometimes for
the not so good. As a result, there really have been too many wasted
sunsets...
That's my story and I'm sticking to it...
Scoot
Soli Deo Gloria
David Meadows
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> The definition is extremely loose...
>
> bal·lad
> n.
>
> 1.
> 1. A narrative poem, often of folk origin and intended to be
sung,
> consisting of simple stanzas and usually having a refrain.
> 2. The music for such a poem.
> 2. A popular song especially of a romantic or sentimental nature.
The OED gives a better definition:
*A* A light, simple song; specifically (a) a song intended to accompany a
dance; (b) a sentimental or romantic composition of two or more verses each
sung to the same melody.
*b* A popular song, especially one attacking persons or institutions
(obsolete).
*c* A popular narrative song in slow tempo.
I'll go for use *b* and choose... Mary Long :-)
FH
the word 'ballad' :) but its good. here's my addition from worldbook:
Ballad is a song that tells a dramatic story in verse. Ballads are one of the
oldest forms of poetry and one of the oldest kinds of music. The term ballad
may refer to any story told in song. But most ballads are folk songs or
imitations of such songs. In the Middle Ages, singing poets called minstrels
wandered over Europe, performing ballads in castles and villages (see
MINSTREL).
Ballads began thousands of years ago among people who could not read or
write. The first ballads were performed with folk dances. Often, one person
sang the story and dancers joined in on the refrain. Subjects of ancient
ballads may have been the same gods and godlike heroes who were in myths and
epics. Later, singers replaced the gods with new heroes, including the
legendary English outlaw Robin Hood and the American railroad engineer Casey
Jones.
The ballad style. Ballads have been created in many verse forms, but the most
typical form in English has been the four-line stanza. An example is the
first stanza of the ballad "The Wife of Usher's Well":
There lived a wife at Usher's Well
And a wealthy wife was she;
She had three stout and stalwart sons,
And sent them o'er the sea.
In the stanza, the first and third lines have four beats. The second and
fourth lines have three. This pattern is called common measure (see POETRY
(Rhythm and meter)).
The opening stanza of most ballads introduces the characters and a situation
in a few vivid phrases. The situation involves a problem or some danger that
creates suspense and stirs interest.
very and i mean very serious :)), so i thought about it. and came to the
conclusions: 16 century greensleeves! but that's not a purple song. darn...
so i still go for gypsy! even though i noticed i am the only one...
David Meadows
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>
> very and i mean very serious :)), so i thought about it. and came to the
> conclusions: 16 century greensleeves!
Excellent choice! It fits all the "rules".
Of course, Ritchie plays nothing but ballads these days, but for those
people who can't understand his "new" mediaeval obsession, they only need to
look back to 16th Century Greensleeves.
Scoot
the best ballad by a member of the Deep Purple Family Tree? Ritchie
certainly qualifes as the bad uncle twice removed from the DP family???
But if we do that, we'll also have to begin to consider and evaluate
the entire output from Blackmores Night...Ah what the hell, XVICG it
is....Good choice, with a well produced thesis is to support the
selection...
Scoot
Soli Deo Gloria
FH
(in article <1113141033.1...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
all my fault i suppose :))) but i agree! think its really the best choice.
well, apart from The Gypsy of course!
FH
ASG
"Harrie Hendriksen" <h.hend...@chello.nl> wrote in message
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Well I can say NOT Love Conquers All.
Probably the Blindman remix
Regards
Andrew