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JJBateson

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Jan 21, 2001, 11:22:52 AM1/21/01
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Hello All
I am looking for the best way to amplify our flutist.
Is there some sort of clip-on pickup?
We have used a microphone (Shure 58) but it does not seem to do the trick. The
sound gets lost in passages where all band members are playing along.
Any Ideas?
Jay

Steven Knight

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Jan 21, 2001, 11:45:13 AM1/21/01
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In order to keep it SLIGHTLY more on topic, I experience the same thing
{Clarinet} when I play with a mixture of Drums, Saxes, trumpets and guitars
in my school band. Whenever I am in concert I try very hard not to have to
use a microphone, it should be part of the music, if the solo flAutist is
playing a concerto, then simply tell the drummer to shut up and declare a
purge on electricity ;0)

Steven Knight


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Peter Willis

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Jan 21, 2001, 6:42:54 PM1/21/01
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>In order to keep it SLIGHTLY more on topic, I experience the same thing
>{Clarinet} when I play with a mixture of Drums, Saxes, trumpets and guitars

Nothing wrong with asking about woodwind amplification on a clarinet board.
I've had that problem with flute or clarinet when dealing with piano, drums,
guitars, numerous singers, etc. in large churches. I've used a mic (I think
Shure 58) with a fair amount of success. You could look into getting a flute
mic. Barcus Berry makes a clamp on model and one that goes where in the
headjoint cork. You can check them out at
http://www.mbtinternational.com/barcusberry/windmics.htm
Yes, there's a clarinet mic there, too.

>Whenever I am in concert I try very hard not to have to
>use a microphone, it should be part of the music, if the solo flAutist is
>playing a concerto, then simply tell the drummer to shut up

From the capital A in flautist, you appear to be correcting him. In the US, we
use flutist. I think it's "The Flute Book" by Nancy Toff that states that
flautist is primarily an expression used in Great Britain.

Peter
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Doug.

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Jan 23, 2001, 4:17:36 AM1/23/01
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In article <20010121184254...@ng-ma1.aol.com>,
Peter Willis <pwill...@aol.com> writes

Comment, for music -interest reasons only.:-
The New Oxford Dictionary of English says, :-
"Flautist, noun, A Flute player.
Origin 19th century, ( superseding 17th century 'flutist' in British
English use: ) from Italian 'flautista',- from flauto, flute".
My opinion is, we have always lived closer to the origin-country
language than most, and adopted many of their words,
(French, Italian , German etc,) - and the English language leans
heavily on the old Latin and Greek words.
I.M.O this has enriched the language and made it what it is today.
The Americans have simplified lots of words by spelling them
phonetically, which is valid because it reflects the history of the flood
many mixed European immigrants who found the 'funny' words
difficult, ('Phonetic' for instance), which could perhaps be more
easily understood as, say,- for example only, 'fonetic'.
Doug.

Peter Willis

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Jan 23, 2001, 1:36:26 PM1/23/01
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Doug-
I wasn't debating the validity of "flautist," I'm aware of several languages'
words including "flute" (French, pardon lack of accents), "flote" (German,
sorry again no marks), "flauta" (Spanish/Italian). English is a Germanic
language and not wholly based on Latin roots as Spanish, French, Italian,
Portuguese are, but is a combination of pretty much anything and everything,
especially American English, because, as you point out, we started out a nation
of many nations and needed to figure out how to speak to one another. The
British had the strongest presence of the Europeans, so English was to be the
language, just "slightly" modified with pieces of everything else. Even from
region to region in any country, there are dialects where people may not have a
clue what you're talking about if you're from "up north" or such.
Anyways, I was just saying he shouldn't have been correcting someone for saying
flutist instead of flautist, as both are acceptable words. We tolerate idiots
in the US trying to be safistamicated by saying flautist because they think
it's classier or what people who are in the know regarding music say, so please
tolerate our slight inflections on the English language.

Doug.

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Jan 23, 2001, 5:12:54 PM1/23/01
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In article <20010123133626...@ng-mg1.aol.com>,
Peter Willis <pwill...@aol.com> writes

Peter!.
I was just batting the thing around, - which was why I began with
"Comment" and no offence was intended, (and I'm sure none taken).

Any road up, ( a Northern saying!), You added much to the debate
which I have carefully and gratefully noted.
Re your comments on Latin etc. I was taught, (at Borstal)!!.
That the greatest loss was the teaching of Latin and in some cases
Greek, - because a lot of the words we use were derived from those
languages. This was proved by looking up words in the Dictionary
which indicated a very strong Latin influence.
Hey! - you'll have to explain that word "safisticaminated". I have
never hear that one before!. Is it an Americanism or a musical
instruction?! (I have heard of antidisestablishmentarianism.)
The Americans fail, - in my opinion,- by insisting on only one
inflection of the word "a". They say "ay" at all times and don't use the
"ah". Also a "d" is used instead of "t", - F'r'instance, Siddy for city.
It seems to be quite widespread.
Good Luck"; keep blowing!. Godda go now, rehearsal tomorrow
morning. I play the repiano pad in a Brass Band. Great fun!. This
outfit is called, "The South Cumbria, Old Contemptibles Retirement
Band." Hey! these boys, all grey-haired can play their horns! -
they've been a lifetime at it, some of us ex-Pros.!
Can't wait to get there!.
Cheers!.
P.S., I was kidding about Borstal. It's a youngsters' correction
Institution.
Doug


Peter Willis

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Jan 24, 2001, 12:57:42 AM1/24/01
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No offense taken, I just wanted to make sure none was taken by mine.

>Hey! - you'll have to explain that word "safisticaminated". I have
>never hear that one before!. Is it an Americanism or a musical
>instruction?!

"Safisamicated" is a bastardization of sophisticated, with a few extra
syllables thrown in to imply irony - using a big word but saying it incorrectly
is something I associate with someone who's trying too hard to compensate for
something (like our new president saying "subliminable" instead of "subliminal"
during the great campaign last year). I threw in an F instead of PH because
you didn't seem to be a fan of Greek's "PH" combination (you mentioned phonics
as a word that could be better spelled out with an F than PH).
Incidentally, from studying Spanish and French in school, I believe English
must be the strangest language man has yet devised. Many of our verbs
conjugate the same through most persons (I have, you have, he/she has, we have,
you have, they have), homonyms are many (and not mastered by many native
speakers), and there's one contraction that makes sense in terms of
contractions, but it looks so odd - They'd've (they would have). Ugh.
My friends in high school called me the grammar nazi because I couldn't
tolerate poor grammar or misspellings (in English or Spanish).
BTW - In my neck of the woods, we use "uh" and "ay" for "a." Depends on what
it precedes. I think we say "uh" 90% of the time. You're right on the t/d
thing - My name is mostly pronounced "Peeder", but without the r, I'm Peet.

-Whatever you want to call me

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