Madonna slams Celine - Movieline too
Why222
In the new issue of US magazine, Madonna is qouted as saying something to the
fact that she has a really hard time gettung to understand her father. As
evidence of this she says - "I mean, his favorite female artist is Celine
Dion."
This disappointed me. As a fan of both, I hoped Madonna would have some more
class than this. But another thing- in the back of my mind somewhere I think I
heard that this quote before. It is possible that the quote is quite old.
Another slam - Movieline has an article in their issue about the Oscar
nominated songs in which they really get on Celine.
Here's some parts of it:
"You know the feeling. You're watching the Academy Awards when some pert young
starlet in a sheath dress half feigns interest as she introduces the next
performer, a singer whose chief seeling point seems to be a surpassing
blandness. For purely hypothetical reasons we'll call this person "Celine
Dion," though she goes by many names: Kenny Loggins, Vanessa Williams, James
Ingram, Gloria Estefan... Anyway, "Celine" comes out in a long gown,
negotitates her way down a set of cream colored stairs and launches into a
wimpy ballad you've never heard before from a movie you never wanted to see.
OK, she got lucky this year with "My Heart Will Go On" from Titanic,but you get
the point."
The article goes on to say that the academy nominations for best song are not
substantial songs and that they are too exclusive. The article contained
pictures of Celine singing and of her various "body parts" (hand, legs,...)
while singing. The captions says ; "Celine gets into a touchy-feely tizzy."
By the way, Movieline is a notoriously spiteful and trashy magazine. It's goal
seems to be to make showbusiness people seem stupid.
Gina Why...@aol.com
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ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it,
it's
probably deserved." -Russell Lynes
David Steinberg
Why222 (why...@aol.com) wrote:
: In the new issue of US magazine, Madonna is qouted as saying something to the
: fact that she has a really hard time gettung to understand her father. As
: evidence of this she says - "I mean, his favorite female artist is Celine
: Dion."
: This disappointed me. As a fan of both, I hoped Madonna would have some more
: class than this. But another thing- in the back of my mind somewhere I think I
: heard that this quote before. It is possible that the quote is quite old.
Maybe, what she meant is that she would expect that, seeing how he's her
*Dad* and everything, she might hope (or expect) that she would be her
favourite female artist? Maybe it's not something against Celine, but
she's just wondering why she can't be the favourite of her own father.
You know how proud Celine is that her father is her number one fan,
right? We couldn't blame Madonna for wishing for the same... :)
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David Steinberg
stei...@unixg.ubc.ca
"Did you think I'd want to tow the line
Well now the line is broken"
- Celine Dion, Refuse to Dance
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shakespeare
I agree with David here....besides she might not of even said it at all!!!
Jimbo
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Mikegd4me
>
>In the new issue of US magazine, Madonna is qouted as saying something to the
>fact that she has a really hard time gettung to understand her father. As
>evidence of this she says - "I mean, his favorite female artist is Celine
>Dion."
>
>This disappointed me. As a fan of both, I hoped Madonna would have some more
>class than this. But another thing- in the back of my mind somewhere I think
>I
>heard that this quote before. It is possible that the quote is quite old.
Don't you think the same way about the people your brother or sister or maybe
your parents listen to.
N.J. Richer
David Steinberg wrote:
>
> Why222 (why...@aol.com) wrote:
> : In the new issue of US magazine, Madonna is qouted as saying something to the
> : fact that she has a really hard time gettung to understand her father. As
> : evidence of this she says - "I mean, his favorite female artist is Celine
> : Dion."
>
> : This disappointed me. As a fan of both, I hoped Madonna would have some more
> : class than this. But another thing- in the back of my mind somewhere I think I
> : heard that this quote before. It is possible that the quote is quite old.
>
> *Dad* and everything, she might hope (or expect) that she would be her
> favourite female artist? Maybe it's not something against Celine, but
> she's just wondering why she can't be the favourite of her own father.
> You know how proud Celine is that her father is her number one fan,
> right? We couldn't blame Madonna for wishing for the same... :)
>
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> David Steinberg
> stei...@unixg.ubc.ca
I agree with David. I think it was a couple of years ago, Madonna said
to Jay Leno that Celine was her father's favorite singer and that she
looked like her cousin; she said: "I wish I was my father's favorite
singer". When they both met in Germany this week, Madonna said that she
found Celine to be" beautifully elegant and very very nice and she said
that her father would die if he knew she was sitting on the same couch
than Celine." They even went to eat at a restaurant together. There was
a picture of them leaving the place and it was full of paparazzi.
Nicole
Veronica Electronica
She wants to be her daddys favourite.Wouldn't you be.?
Madonna has met Celine On german show wetten dass and she said she couldn't
believe she was sitting next to celine. ANd that her dad would die if he found
out she was sitting next to Celine. Celine complimented Madonna to and there
was no tension because of M's uk no1 position and Celine's nr 2. They like
each other
>In the new issue of US magazine, Madonna is qouted as saying something to the
>fact that she has a really hard time gettung to understand her father. As
>evidence of this she says - "I mean, his favorite female artist is Celine
>Dion."
>This disappointed me. As a fan of both, I hoped Madonna would have some more
>class than this. But another thing- in the back of my mind somewhere I think I
>heard that this quote before. It is possible that the quote is quite old.
>Another slam - Movieline has an article in their issue about the Oscar
Andy babwah
>
> I agree with David. I think it was a couple of years ago, Madonna said
> to Jay Leno that Celine was her father's favorite singer and that she
> looked like her cousin; she said: "I wish I was my father's favorite
> singer". When they both met in Germany this week, Madonna said that she
> found Celine to be" beautifully elegant and very very nice and she said
> that her father would die if he knew she was sitting on the same couch
> than Celine." They even went to eat at a restaurant together. There was
> a picture of them leaving the place and it was full of paparazzi.
>
> Nicole
I also agree with David. Prior to Madonna's involvement with Evita I
had just lost all respect for her as a performer in the public eyes.
She just disgusted me. Then she turned around and impressed me so much
in her new found maturity. I suppose it became clear to her that the
tramp style would not work as she aged and became a mother. I will even
say from what I have read she has made every effort to be the divine mom
too. I believe she has made a great effort to elevate herself above
this former lifestyle. And for that reason I believe she would not have
insulted Celine. I read many years ago that she told David Foster she
would be thrilled to blessed with a powerful voice like Celine's.
Granted she does not have Celine's vocal range but I still think she
makes wonderful music. I am sure Celine would do a great cover of one
of her dance hits too. Maybe they can even do a dance number one day.
That would be a treat for me.
Andy
Why222
>
> I agree with David. I think it was a couple of years ago, Madonna said
>to Jay Leno that Celine was her father's favorite singer and that she
>looked like her cousin; she said: "I wish I was my father's favorite
>singer". When they both met in Germany this week, Madonna said that she
>found Celine to be" beautifully elegant and very very nice and she said
>that her father would die if he knew she was sitting on the same couch
>than Celine." They even went to eat at a restaurant together. There was
>a picture of them leaving the place and it was full of paparazzi.
I am glad to hear this. I just bought Madonna's album and was in such a
madonna-fever that when I read this , I really was disappointed. But I'm glad
that the two of them met and got to chat a bit.
Robert F. Kavanagh
I'm listening to 'Ray Of Light' as I type - bloody good album too... :)
RFK.
Smiley0818
Madonna slamming Celine?? Why am I not surprised one bit?
Madonna has no class whatsoever.
She also dissed Mariah once and she has done so many other things ALOT worse
than that which disgusts me.
MC...@webtv.net
just because Madonna farther is a big fan of Celine (that is only
heresay).
You assume she has no class,
I love both of them,but at this point in time I would favor
Madonna,because of her looks,age,and especially her 15 plus years in the
buisness.
Although, Celine Dione is almost on par with Madonna when she was her
age and I emphasize the word almost.
She is still in the number 1 spot and unlike Mariah she does not have to
take her clothes off,to get there.
Celine-----the queen of movie soundtracks
mike
Veronica Electronica
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Madonna said she didn't like Mariah's music. She did say it was very brave of
Mariah to make her own videos.(crap videos in my humble opinion)
Madonna likes Celine a lot. It's annoying that people make up things to make
Madonna look bad. She's a great person and her album rules!
PS isn't it a pleasure to see that Mariah's album is in the bargain bin?:P
N.J. Richer
Smiley0818 wrote:
>
> Madonna slamming Celine?? Why am I not surprised one bit?
> Madonna has no class whatsoever.
> She also dissed Mariah once and she has done so many other things ALOT worse
> than that which disgusts me.
Hi Smiley!
Read the previous posts of this thread and you will see that it is NOT
the case at all. In fact, Madonna likes Celine a lot. They even went
eating together in a restaurant in Germany recently.
Nicole
Delenn
Madonna's new album is absolutely sensational, the best piece of work
she's done in a long time. I find it extremely hard to to think Madonna
would have said bad things about Celine. Surely Madonna an see the
quality in Celine's singing. After all in my opinion Madonna and Celine
are the best singers in the world (BOTH of them !!!).
Andy
Edina Munsu
MC...@webtv.net wrote:
> Although, Celine Dione is almost on par with Madonna when she was her
> age and I emphasize the word almost.
> She is still in the number 1 spot and unlike Mariah she does not have to
> take her clothes off,to get there.
Do you remember a certain little overpriced book called SEX? Mariah
never exposed her uterus and other body parts as far as I know. There
are other ways to get there u know... like sleeping with Sony's
president but that's another story (and a cheap shot...I know).
Edina
Veronica Electronica
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>Edina
Madonna new she would lose fans with 'SEX'. It's a revultionairy book..because
it's ussually guys that decide about sex. this time a women was in control and
they slammed her. the book is great and funny:-) check it out
Edina Munsu
Veronica Electronica wrote:
> Madonna new she would lose fans with 'SEX'. It's a revultionairy book..because
> it's ussually guys that decide about sex. this time a women was in control and
> they slammed her. the book is great and funny:-) check it out
I did see the book. Nothing shocking at all. In fact, some of the
pictures are very pretty. I was just responding to a Madonna fan that
was accusing Mariah of undressing herself in order to gain success. It
was unfair. You understand? :-)
Take care.
Edina.
Aeronwytru
i heard that madonna quote too, but you are wrong because you have misquoted
her, and it makes a big difference. when you ahve the whole, correct quote,
you'll see that madonna doesn't slam celine, but in fact compliments her. what
she actually said was, "my father would dieif he knew i was sitting next to
celine dion" (they met backstage in germany while doing a tv talk show) "he
loves her. he's her biggest fan" when asked what she herself thought of celine,
madonna replied, "she's fantastic" so please don't go pronouncing that madonna
doesn't have class, and check your sources first. thanks.
Why222
>
>i heard that madonna quote too, but you are wrong because you have misquoted
>her, and it makes a big difference. when you ahve the whole, correct quote,
If the quote is wrong- blame Entertainment Weekly, not me.
Denise Sharpe
Smiley0818 wrote:
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> Madonna slamming Celine?? Why am I not surprised one bit?
> Madonna has no class whatsoever.
> She also dissed Mariah once and she has done so many other things ALOT worse
> than that which disgusts me.
Dismissing Mariah shows a GREAT DEAL of class!! As the Grammys
have spoke.
Denise Sharpe
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> >Madonna has no class whatsoever.
> >She also dissed Mariah once and she has done so many other things ALOT worse
> >than that which disgusts me.
>
> Mariah to make her own videos.(crap videos in my humble opinion)
> Madonna look bad. She's a great person and her album rules!
>
> PS isn't it a pleasure to see that Mariah's album is in the bargain bin?:P
Mariah belongs in the bargain bin. I think anyone who can see
and hear the truth of love in Celines' music can also see and
hear the phony sentiment that Mariah spews forth.
Andre Fortin
Mike, you probably did not know that Celine started to sing professionally
before Madonna did, that is 17 years ago. That is when she recorded her
first album.
I do not like when people try to compare singers. It's like saying that
Titanic grossed more money that ET... the admission ticket price was way
cheaper then. How can they make such a statement. Thank God, when it comes
to albums, they calculate the amount sold (which make more sense). But when
it comes to music, you have to follow the trend. Like rap music was not
popular ten years ago. Look at today's rap phenomenon!!! Madonna started
singing bubble gum stuff and her material has changed since. Today, people
don't care as much for that bubble gum shtick (a few exceptions here and
there, like "Barbie Girl"). In the contrary, Celine started out singing love
songs and mostly ballads (her greatest hits - top tens - are ballads only).
Now that is an accomplishment because she is selling more CDs now then when
she started out, compare to Madonna who's selling less CDs with every
release.
Madonna:
-Madonna=4million
-Like a Virgin= 9 million
-True Blue= 7 million
-Like a Prayer= 4 million
-I'm Breathless=2 million
-Immaculate Collection=6 million (Greatest Hits)
-Erotica=2 million
-Bedtime Stories= 2 million
-Something to Remember= 2 million
-Evita= 2 million
Celine:
-Unison= 1 million
-Celine Dion= 2 million
-Colour of my Love= 4 million
-Falling into you= 10 million
-LTAL= 5 million (so far, since its release 3 months ago)
Can you see the where I'm getting at?
Andre
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MC...@webtv.net wrote:
> just because Madonna farther is a big fan of Celine (that is only
> heresay).
> You assume she has no class,
> I love both of them,but at this point in time I would favor
> Madonna,because of her looks,age,and especially her 15 plus years in the
> buisness.
> Although, Celine Dione is almost on par with Madonna when she was her
> age and I emphasize the word almost.
> She is still in the number 1 spot and unlike Mariah she does not have to
> take her clothes off,to get there.
Veronica Electronica
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>Mike, you probably did not know that Celine started to sing professionally
>before Madonna did, that is 17 years ago. That is when she recorded her
>first album.
>I do not like when people try to compare singers. It's like saying that
>Titanic grossed more money that ET... the admission ticket price was way
>cheaper then. How can they make such a statement. Thank God, when it comes
>to albums, they calculate the amount sold (which make more sense). But when
>it comes to music, you have to follow the trend. Like rap music was not
>popular ten years ago. Look at today's rap phenomenon!!! Madonna started
>singing bubble gum stuff and her material has changed since. Today, people
>don't care as much for that bubble gum shtick (a few exceptions here and
>there, like "Barbie Girl"). In the contrary, Celine started out singing love
>songs and mostly ballads (her greatest hits - top tens - are ballads only).
>Now that is an accomplishment because she is selling more CDs now then when
>she started out, compare to Madonna who's selling less CDs with every
>release.
Excuse me? Than why did Madonna sell 387863 copies of her new album in the USA?
A personal record. And probably one of the highest all time first week sales.
Her album is number 1 in Italy Germany France etc etc.
ALready looking to become her best selling album in the 90's.
Maybe her best selling album ever.
@ bad for titannic. If that wouldn't be released she'd definately be number 1.
Andre Fortin
Veronica Electronica wrote:
> Excuse me? Than why did Madonna sell 387863 copies of her new album in the USA?
> A personal record. And probably one of the highest all time first week sales.
> Her album is number 1 in Italy Germany France etc etc.
> ALready looking to become her best selling album in the 90's.
> Maybe her best selling album ever.
> @ bad for titannic. If that wouldn't be released she'd definately be number 1.
All I was reporting were facts from previous album. I sure hope that "Ray of Light" becomes Madonna's best selling album ever. I love Frozen and am disappointed that it couldn't unseat "Gettin' Jiggy Wit' It" this week. If "Ray of Light" had been
released a few weeks later, I'm sure "Frozen" would've sold more copies, and open at #1 on the Hot 100.
I wasn't trying to make Madonna look like a has-been. Sorry if I offended you.
André
Veronica Electronica
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>Veronica Electronica wrote:
>André
It's ok.Well I'll do something that never happens! A hug! yes people you can
discuss things and be friendly:-)
Ps titanic 1 in the us and 2 in the uk, madonna no 1 in uk and 2 in the us...
that's ok.///love them both
And madonna set a record for hgihest first week sales by a female ever.
BEating Janets 350000