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King Pineapple

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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Did the Byrds ever collaborate with The Turtles/Flo & Eddie on any
recordings? I know that The Turtles took Roger's "You Told Me" and had
a big hit with it.

Roger McGuinn

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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King Pineapple wrote:


"You Showed Me" was the title of the song that Gene Clark and I wrote.
The Turtles took it to number 6 on the Billboard charts. BMI has given
us an award for over 1,000,000 plays on radio and television.

Other than that, the Byrds and Turtles have never worked together.

Roger


TomThunder

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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<<Other than that, the Byrds and Turtles have never worked together...Roger>>

But Mark and Howard did sing on your 'Peace On You' album.
Correct?...Tom

Gonzosd

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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In article <199806111951...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
tomth...@aol.com (TomThunder) writes:

Did anybody catch the Stills-Young tour with Volman and Kaylan singing in place
of
Crosby/Nash? ....Chuck

Roger McGuinn

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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TomThunder wrote:

> <<Other than that, the Byrds and Turtles have never worked together...Roger>>
>
> But Mark and Howard did sing on your 'Peace On You' album.
> Correct?...Tom

Right, but not as the Turtles.

Roger


John Howells

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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Roger McGuinn <no_spam...@ix.netcom.com> writes:

<TomThunder wrote:

<Roger

But Mark and Howard WERE the Turtles :-)

--

John Howells
how...@bigfoot.com
http://www.punkhart.com

Roger McGuinn

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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John Howells wrote:


Not when they were being Flo and Eddy. :-)

Roger


Steve Cobham

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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On 12 Jun 1998 06:39:37 -0700, how...@best.com (John Howells) wrote:


><> But Mark and Howard did sing on your 'Peace On You' album.
><> Correct?...Tom
>
><Right, but not as the Turtles.
>
><Roger
>
>But Mark and Howard WERE the Turtles :-)

There were some other members - Jim Pons <bass> (played later with
Zappa) for one. Let's not get into the "some members of the band were
more important than others" thing again, eh?

OLGA LIVES!

Steve.
====================================
st...@guitars.powernet.co.uk

"I get knocked down
But I get up again
You're never going to keep me down"
Chumbawamba - "Tubthumping"
====================================

david gourley

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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In article <35816cba.1504649@news>, st...@guitars.powernet.co.uk (Steve Cobham) wrote:
>
>There were some other members - Jim Pons <bass> (played later with
>Zappa) for one. Let's not get into the "some members of the band were
>more important than others" thing again, eh?
>
>OLGA LIVES!
>
>Steve.


really.

but don't forget john barbata on drums! with csn and jefferson starship
thereafter!

:)

david

King Pineapple

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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how...@best.com (John Howells) writes: > Roger McGuinn <no_spam...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
>
>
> <TomThunder wrote:
>
> <> <<Other than that, the Byrds and Turtles have never worked together...Roger>>
> <>
> <> But Mark and Howard did sing on your 'Peace On You' album.
> <> Correct?...Tom
>
> <Right, but not as the Turtles.
>
> <Roger
>
> But Mark and Howard WERE the Turtles :-)
>
Strictly speaking there WERE some other guys-Al Nichol, Jim Tucker, Chuck
Portz on bass and Don Murray. They started out as the "Crossfires".

King Pineapple

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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Johnny wasn't their original drummer (see my previous post).

RICK12DR

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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Speaking of ex-Turtles, whatever happened to Johnny Barbata
after he left the Starship in the late 70s? The last I heard, and this
would have been in the late 70s also, was that he'd been in some
kind of bad car accident and wouldn't be able to play again. Then
later, I heard he recovered and was doing something musically,
exactly what, I never did hear. Anyone out there know???

Tom

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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>From what I remember the Turtles perform on their album Battle of the
>Bands as the Crossfires.
>
They also were the Crossfires before they were the Turtles. Rhino put out an
album of them a long time ago, but I never saw one and it sold very poorly
so I don't expect to see it reissued any time soon.

kwd

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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King Pineapple <crai...@hotmail.com> wrote:

From what I remember the Turtles perform on their album Battle of the
Bands as the Crossfires.

Ken Dyche

Gonzosd

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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In article <3580DC81...@ix.netcom.com>, Roger McGuinn
<no_spam...@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>TomThunder wrote:
>
>> <<Other than that, the Byrds and Turtles have never worked
>together...Roger>>
>>
>> But Mark and Howard did sing on your 'Peace On You' album.
>> Correct?...Tom
>
>Right, but not as the Turtles.
>
>Roger

I do believe that hadn't got the rights to the "Turtles" name at that time-
which they did get back later. I noticed they thanked Roger on their "Ilegal,
Immoral & Fattening" released the year after "Peace On You". Btw the
Crossfires is pretty much surf music except for a couple of 'novelty' things
that foreshadow the humor that would froth from Flo & Eddie later. Chuck

R. Bentz Kirby

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
to Gonzosd

If this is the tour I saw it was the last night. Stills was drunk when they played
in Columbia, SC. The next day, Young just up and left. I remembered reading about
it in Rolling Stone. I was there, but it wasn't a pleasant memory.

Gonzosd wrote:

> In article <199806111951...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
> tomth...@aol.com (TomThunder) writes:
>

> ><<Other than that, the Byrds and Turtles have never worked together...Roger>>
> >
> >But Mark and Howard did sing on your 'Peace On You' album.
> >Correct?...Tom
>

> Did anybody catch the Stills-Young tour with Volman and Kaylan singing in place
> of
> Crosby/Nash? ....Chuck

--

Peace,

Bentz
boc...@scsn.net
http://www.scsn.net/users/sclaw

R. Bentz Kirby

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
to Roger McGuinn


Roger McGuinn wrote:

> John Howells wrote:
>
> <snip>


> >
> > But Mark and Howard WERE the Turtles :-)
> >

> > --
> >
> > John Howells
> > how...@bigfoot.com
> > http://www.punkhart.com
>
> Not when they were being Flo and Eddy. :-)
>
> Roger

And Flo and Eddy were great when I saw them with Zappa. Would you go all the way for
the USA. Two Dog Night. Super show. I think George Duke was in that band too. What
a show! What guitar work. What sarcasm! :-)

ByrdsOnlne

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Jun 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/14/98
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Johnny wasn't their original drummer (see my previous post).
King Pineapple <crai...@hotmail.com>

And the drummer who replaced John Barbata
in the Turtles was John Seiter, who I would imagine
is (ex-Byrds road manager - see Byrdmaniax gatefold)
Jimi Seiter's brother...Tom


david gourley

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Jun 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/15/98
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In article <6ls9f5$fhm$1...@news.monad.net>, King Pineapple
<crai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>dav...@nospam.duke.edu (david gourley) writes: > In article
> <35816cba.1504649@news>, st...@guitars.powernet.co.uk (Steve Cobham) wrote:
>> >
>> >There were some other members - Jim Pons <bass> (played later with
>> >Zappa) for one. Let's not get into the "some members of the band were
>> >more important than others" thing again, eh?
>> >
>> >OLGA LIVES!
>> >
>> >Steve.
>>
>>
>> really.
>>
>> but don't forget john barbata on drums! with csn and jefferson starship
>> thereafter!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> david
>Johnny wasn't their original drummer (see my previous post).

i didn't say he was.....
david

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