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Ylva & Thomas

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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that for every BHS-related post there is three to a million shitposts?

Radiofreecash is the best paradox yet. Selfcancelling phrases (as the good
people in Beatnigs said: freash-frozen, military-intelligence etc).
What ´s next?


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So Long, suckers!

greg

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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In article <_WNs4.7608$al3.1...@newsc.telia.net>, "Ylva says...

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>that for every BHS-related post there is three to a million shitposts?

cuz no one is here anymore... it's the emptiest I've seen this group ever! It's
not helping much that Last Astronaut (or whatever the new name is for this
record) is not out yet... hopefully, once it's released, there will be a
"renewed interest" in the band and trolls, er, I mean new fans will start
showing up here wanting to know more. hopefully.


Unknown

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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I'd think that alot of it is that the Buttholes have slowed way down
too. I've got Astronaut and I'd have to say that it is the next cycle
of the downward spiral. Pretty much have gone downhill since
Pussyhorse.
Albums as well as their live performances....Gibby used to be way into
it...now he seems bored.
Still stand by Paul Leary as one of the best guitarist around.
Bring back the second drummer chick....get gibby off the junk and fill
him up with acid again...bring the naked chick back too!
Maybe it's the heat in Texas.....brings 'em all down...Killdozer is no
longer, right?
Maybe this post will liven things up a bit....lemme' know what you
think.
I love their older shit and the times I saw them early in their career
were some of the best shows I've ever seen.

Monique

Ravioli

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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Monique-the-Freak wrote in message <38b8d823...@news.iws.net>...

>I'd think that alot of it is that the Buttholes have slowed way down
>too. I've got Astronaut and I'd have to say that it is the next cycle
>of the downward spiral. Pretty much have gone downhill since
>Pussyhorse.
>Albums as well as their live performances....Gibby used to be way into
>it...now he seems bored.
>Still stand by Paul Leary as one of the best guitarist around.
>Bring back the second drummer chick....get gibby off the junk and fill
>him up with acid again...bring the naked chick back too!
>Maybe it's the heat in Texas.....brings 'em all down...Killdozer is no
>longer, right?
>Maybe this post will liven things up a bit....lemme' know what you
>think.
>I love their older shit and the times I saw them early in their career
>were some of the best shows I've ever seen.
>
>Monique


yeah, i agree they are alot different from their early days....but that was
over 15 years ago too. it's one thing to take acid everyday and freak out on
stage for 11 months out of the year when youre in your 20's. life seems
neverending then. but it's another thing when you're approaching the 40's
and suddenly all of that acid and alcohol, etc is catching up with you. plus
you have families and other responsibilities to be concern with (like yer
old creaking body). as far as muscial creativity goes, i think it would be
silly for the BHS to keep treading the same "shocking/psyche" territory over
and over. i think it was an amazing feat that the band was able to create
such a cult following, demand high guarnatees for shows, etc back in the
80's. but partly due to the fact of their "groundbreaking" music, style
(etc) and that of other groups, we got the upswing of so many
"alternative/grunge/etc" music culture (pardon the labels, i hate 'em too).
i cant see Locust Abortion Technician sounding as crazy now as it did back
in 87, so much musical ground has been covered since then. although, a good
dose of Texan psyche never hurt anyone!! >;)

ps- paul leary is definitely one of the best guitarist....Hairway still
floors me.

Matthew W. Hales

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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> Monique-the-Freak wrote in message <38b8d823...@news.iws.net>...
> >I'd think that alot of it is that the Buttholes have slowed way down
> >too. I've got Astronaut and I'd have to say that it is the next cycle
> >of the downward spiral. Pretty much have gone downhill since
> >Pussyhorse.

I must respectfully disagree. I think that "The Last Astronaut" is one
of the best records I've ever heard. It has remained in my 6 CD changer
and has been in heavy rotation at home and the office for almost two
years now. There are very few records that can be played that
frequently and never get old. The Butthole Surfers have been my
favorite band since I was in eighth grade (I am now almost 30), and the
one thing I have never asked of them was that they not change - had I
done so I would have been painfully disappointed by most of their
records. I have heard fans wail and cry about how bad the new record is
as long as they have been coming out with new records. Those of you
that got into the Butthole Surfers circa "PeePee the Sailor" will
remember that an awful lot of the original punk fan base, especially
around Austin, did not like the later records at all - including the
beloved "Locust Abortion Technician". I think that we can all agree
that regardless of the fact that "Locust Abortion Technician" sounded
very little like "PeePee the Sailor" it was still a fantastic record.
So too is "The Last Astronaut". Like many of the greatest Butthole
Surfers records it took time and effort to warm up to this record.
Let's face it, some of this band's music is so freakishly odd that one
can be excused for not "getting it" on the first listen. Time and
effort spent in the struggle to like the music seldom goes unrewarded
with this band, but it can indeed be a struggle at times. My advice to
those who don't like "The Last Astronaut" is to listen again, repeat as
necessary. There is a tremendously good record in there for those
willing to work with the band to find it.

Matthew W. Hales
Director of Visual Effects
Chimera Digital Imaging

boardbabe

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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I agree with Matthew. No band can stay the same. These guys have been
around for ages and ofcourse the music will progress with the maturity of
the band as well as their influences. There is a lot of crap out there,
especially with regards to the punk scene. the Buttholes are like the only
band that will never disappoint!!!

BoardBabe

greg

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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considering how long they have been around (actually LONGER than 15 years!),
with relatively the same lineup, I'd say they're doing alright. Sure, some of
the recent output hasn't been the best (astroNUT), but there's always inspired
moments. Sooner or later they'll find their new groove and continue... At least
they haven't given up!


Ravioli

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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i'm getting anxious to see them tour again. if the new release is going to
be in the vein of the Astronaut material (altered or whatnot), they could
really design a great visual live show to accompany it. it's been....almost
4 years since they played, right?

Cool Daddy

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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All I have to say is that the Butthole Sufers, are by far, the best band out
there. Bands do change I do agree, but all of there albums are different
from each other, to some degree. I believe they just took over where the
Beatles left. Just listen to there changes from album to album. So anybody
out there that says there are wimping out,. is not a true fan. I have been
listening to them since 83, 84 and stilll loving them. At least they are
not selling out like some bands. The BHS still play what, how, and where
they what. I just wish they will play down here in the south, on this new
tour I have heard about, to suport the new album.

Allisdevine

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Mar 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/6/00
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BHS is a great band! They've evolved over time as any good artists should. I
can honestly say I hated Lady Sniff when I first heard back in the 80's, but
it's a tune that just grows on you. I look forward to a tour, I just hope they
aren't bitter about Chicago

CrushR24

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Mar 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/7/00
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nunya biznaz <a@a.a> wrote in article
<4D30597F2ADFED25.29F7CAF9...@lp.airnews.net>...
> i'd like to see them stop trying to write hits and release some good ole
> brain stomping music.
>

yeah, but Paul and Gibby want to write hit songs...$$$$


greg

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Mar 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/8/00
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In article <01bf885a$e7165d60$1fdf5a3f@ilzyzusv>, "CrushR24" says...

i hope you werent't suggesting that writing a hit song is bad! the whole thing
with wanting to write another hit is cuz they have no money! they were shafted
by capitol and got the short end of the stick with touch and go, so they need
some living money to stay afloat... in their position (after 'pepper'), a hit
song would get them another group of newer younger fans, and pay the bills.
plus, it gives them some financial ground to stand on again; which benefits the
older fans with all the stuff they *might* release or release. (double live,
blind eye, rare tracks, etc.)

another hit would do us all some good, I think.


Ravioli

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Mar 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/9/00
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>another hit would do us all some good, I think.


what kind of "hit" are you talking about? >;)

greg

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Mar 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/13/00
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In article <8a7c7o$94q$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net>, "Ravioli" says...

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>
>>another hit would do us all some good, I think.
>
>
>what kind of "hit" are you talking about? >;)
>
>

my point exactly! I'll take any "hit" from the BHS any day!


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