What did Grohl say about Gavin???
Ed Jamison
Check out http://www.rocknews.com/wrcx/ for details. The Thursday 7\10
news. He didn't say anything, he just wore a Bu$h shit, that is widely
assumed to be ripping Bush for selling out AND for copying Nirvana...
They are trying to say that Dave G. was jealous about Gavin touring with
Veruca Salt, beings as he's dating Louise Post and all...
Ryan wrote:
> I just heard today that Dave Grohl said some bad things about Gavin
> from
> Bush. But they
> didn't say what it was. What was it???
fburch
He said Bush was a tribute band to Nirvana and that they were using
Nirvana's capital to make money. Grohl is also jealous that Bush is
touring with his girlfriend. One of the girls in Veruca Salt. He wore a
shirt on stage with BU$H written on the front.
Jenna
> "~Levi~" <lada...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
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> Doesn't eveybody these days?
>
> Ryan wrote in article <5q3bfd$n8v$1...@nr1.toronto.istar.net>...
LORDETH7
dave seems to be a pretty smart guy
Bren Reynolds
Gavin is a real loser and I think Dave's right. I read a quote from Gavin (It was in
BIG BLOCK LETTERS LIKE THESE) in CIRCUS mag..It read "...I HOPE THAT THERE'S AN ELEMENT
OF NIRVANA IN BUSH BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS A FAN OF KURT COBAIN AND NIRVANA..." Dave
Grohl's comments have some fact even though he may not know it.
Steve
-STEVE
Steve
Sgt. Peppers wrote:
>
> You're just using the girlfriend thing as an excuse to know it's
> basically all over when the drummer of the greatest band of this decade
> put's down your little 13-year old girl fanzy group.
I AGGRE!
-STEVE
lil ditty
Whats the big deal? Okay, its obvious that Bush sound like Nirvana, but so do many
bands. All music is just recreation and synthesis of past music, Nirvana wasn't totally
original, infact anything but. I agree that Bush probably benefit from sounding like
Nirvana, but if Dave wore that teeshirt for the reason to poke fun at Bush, he is
unwittingly poking fun at himself. How many kids out there began listening to the Foo
Fighters because of Daves old band, I know went I went and saw them play, there were
Nirvana t-shirts as far as the eye could see. He can try to remove himself from the tag of
'the drummer from Nirvana', but there will always be those who only become aware of
the Foo's because of Nirvana....you know when you're talking to someone who is oblivious
to the Foo fighters, you need to say 'You know the band with the guy from Nirvana!' and
they say 'oh cool' - (or something like that)...
(By the way, I only found out that the Foo Fighters was actually Dave Grohls band after I
looked at the photo on the inside after listening to them buying the album. Even then I
didn't click where he was from. I didn't even get into Nirvana heavily until after I got the
Foo debut!)
Its a shame but its the truth. Dave is a great artist, and if anyone has the right to ride the
shirttails of Nirvana it is him (and Krist - But God, NOT Courtney and HOLE!)...But like I
said at the start of this post, all music is just recreation and new organisations of the
fundemental music components (the 12 notes of western music, the instrument
arrangements etc..)....
-This is great, it should finally stir some real debate for this issue, and wake up this
newsgroup (alt.foo)....I'm so sick of fockin xxx site passwords and psyhco readings... how
can we get rid of those space wasting cunks? (can you tell I'm pissed?)
t...@smashing-pumpkins.com
Dave is right about BU$H, because they do try to copy the Nirvana image
and they have sold out for money. If you dont believe me, how come I
had to pay $30 to see Bush, when I only had to pay $15 to see foo
fighters.
second, that person who said Dave is mad at bush because veruca salt is
touring with bush is an idiot! One, veruca salt isnt touring with bush
anymore. two, Louise was at the foo's show in st.louis on sunday (july
13) and I know this because I was standing right below where she was
standing and dave kept looking up there, so I did, and she was standing
there. Also, the people on the point, radio station, where standing
with her up there and they said she was there the next day on the radio.
I also saw that circus mag where Gavin said he hopes there is elements
of nirvana in bush because he liked nirvana.
Finally, dave grohl has done more for modern music than gavin rossdale,
or any member of bush, ever has or ever will. He played in one of the
best bands ever, where bush is just a cheap, well tickets prices arent,
imitation.
To end, I like bush's music, but i hate gavin, but I still like their
music, if that makes sense
~Levi~
Selling out is wrong and I hate to see anyone do it. But aren't you
being the little hypocrite? I mean, basically, you are saying that if you
could earn millions(?) of dollars playing music similar to Nirvana's, you
wouldn't milk it? Come on, be real! I don't agree with Gavin/Bush's ways,
but I can see their motives clearly.
~Levi
Bren Reynolds wrote in article <33CAD7...@nf.sympatico.ca>...
Dr. Gavin
> Why does it cost more to pay them? The can demand less money to pay,
> cant they? Or is it, once you hit it big, you must demand more money?
> Here we go, a) Bush didnt sell out st.louis, thats where I payed $30 in
> May. b)Rage Against The Machine is coming to st.louis end of august and
> they're playing the exact same place bush played, how come I only had to
> pay $24.25 to see Rage, plus Atari Teenage Riot who kick all ass and
> Wu-Tang is cool too, yet I had to pay $30 to see bush, with veruca salt
> who suck?
What's with the ticket prices?
I saw Foo for $9.
I saw Bush last month for $15.
I saw Silverchair before at $15.
I saw Weird Al last year at $15.
Is it the band, or is it the area?
I live in Wisconsin, and I've only seen tickets over 15 for events like HORDE (19) and
Ozzfest (24).
So, what is up?
- Gav
Kate
How do you define poseur? you seem to like to use that word alot. You are
generalizing that anyone who likes Bush are "trendy un-original
teenboppers" who are 15 and they think Gavin is so fine. What proof do you
have of this? Many girls who "like"bush like Gavin more than the band and
the music. Then these girls are no fans at all. They are a disgrace to all
girls who like the band.This is not fair people are generalizing which can
lead to big problems. By the way not everyone watches MTV. I don't, I spend
my time listening to K-ROCK. So don't try to insult me or anyone else when
you do not know a dam thing about us. I must also say I think Nirvana is a
great band but I don't really respect Dave Grohl's opinion. What is there
to respect. However i would respect Kurt's opinion. I think Kurt would not
give a rat's ass about Bush. They are just another band and until you can
sell over 13 million in CDs I think you should shut the fuck up.
Sgt. Peppers <Jag-...@worldnet.weezer.att.net> wrote in article
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> Who's not going to respect the opinion of Dave Grohl? Anyone that takes
> music seriously would respect it. But when you rely on MTV to choose your
> music for you, I can't speak for your wannabee indie/poseur ass. Hey
> maybe you are right man. I probably should like Bush. I'd love to be in a
> group associated w/ people were everyone is some 15 year old poseur who
> likes 311 and smashing pumpkins. And I can't wait to dish out 29 dollars
> to see Bush. Especially when it's a seated (poseur) concert. I pay 10-15
> bucks for bands who aren't sell-outs and even better the less I seem to
> pay the closer I am to the band. Closer as in, right before the group
> next to their amps and feet. Opposed to "Hey I payed 30 for this ticket,
> you got the binoculars cause I wanna see Gavin. He's soo fine. That's why
> I like Bush." Trendy un-orignal teenyboppers. Maybe I could sell my music
> once I'm beautiful so I can gain a middle school teenage girl crowd.
> Just listen to MTV poseur girl. Then you can be the first one to like
> "hip and upcoming" bands like Matchbox 20 and Third Eye Blind! Alright
> man! "Do what I tell you. My mind is your mind. What do you think?"
>
>
Sgt. Peppers
All porno rooms full? No. And I laugh at you for that. You're the idiot
on a service as shitty as AOL. The service is hated by anyone who knows
shit about online services. It's famous for giving porno pedaphiles a
place to do their shit. Besides they just want your money and give you
shit service - constant busy signals, bad resposne time, web never
works, and it goes on. "I can't even program a VCR but I'm online" - AOL
commercial. Hah! You want to be online with this guy?
GavinsGirI
Tom Whalen
Kate wrote:
>
> How do you define poseur? you seem to like to use that word alot. You are
> generalizing that anyone who likes Bush are "trendy un-original
> teenboppers" who are 15 and they think Gavin is so fine. What proof do you
> have of this? Many girls who "like"bush like Gavin more than the band and
> the music. Then these girls are no fans at all. They are a disgrace to all
> girls who like the band.This is not fair people are generalizing which can
> lead to big problems. By the way not everyone watches MTV. I don't, I spend
> my time listening to K-ROCK. So don't try to insult me or anyone else when
> you do not know a dam thing about us. I must also say I think Nirvana is a
> great band but I don't really respect Dave Grohl's opinion. What is there
> to respect. However i would respect Kurt's opinion. I think Kurt would not
> give a rat's ass about Bush. They are just another band and until you can
> sell over 13 million in CDs I think you should shut the fuck up.
>
A couple of things:
1)In a way, sgt. peppers is right, but hes going about it in the wrong
way.
2)Who cares if they sold 13 million records, anyone can do that know.
What people care about is that you can stay around, and continue to sell
records and still have fans, real fans, after 4 or 5 albums.
3)ANyway you look at it, Dave was the second most important member of
nirvana. I would value kurts opinion more, but, dave was apart of all
that, he helped create nirvana's sound, well after he joined the band
atleast, so hes opinion, in my mind, is very valuable, cause hes been
touring and music has been his live since he was like 17, 18 years old,
when he joined scream. so, someone who has contributed so much to
modern music should have his opinion taken seriously.
4)K-ROCK, christ. The radio is just as bad as eMpTyV, except they do
play songs by unheard of bands, except for the fact these "unheard of"
bands, are huge away from teh mainstream, ie Sublime.
5)I agree with you, I saw bush with girls who like their music, not just
gavin. Yet, I know another girl who likes their music, yet I never hear
say anything about dave nigel or robyn. I told here one day that Gavin
was my fifth favorite member of teh band:
Dave, Nigel, Robyn, Winston, Gavin
and she told me to stop, you know how girls do shit like that,
"Ssstoppp"
gracias for listening to my rambling
Sgt. Peppers
Sgt. Peppers
Why would you see a show at Madison Square Garden? Except for rare
occurances it's huge MTV bands trying to get as much money as possible.
The only things I can remember that were worth being with 15,000 other
people were the Hole, and Weezer shows.
NOBODY829
Pep, if you're so anti- Bush, what are you doing here? I respect Dave
Grohl's opinion, he's entitled to it. in my opinion, Foo Fighters is a
great band and so is Bush. I love their music, and by the way, I watch
Mtv, you got a problem with that??????? But most of my musical tastes are
associated with K-Rock. I could care less what bands you like, especially
if I hate them (many of which include those damn indie bands).
About "sell-outs", what kind of idiot would get in a band with the hope
of failing? Last time I checked, living comfortably was a good thing
compared to barely making rent.
Well, I'm not here to insult you, so I'll end on a few minor points:
1) I'm the farthest thing from a "teenybopper" you'll ever find.
2) If you know where to go, those 30 dollars put you in a much better
situation than the nosebleed section.
3) Besides, do you expect to pay any less at places like Madison Square
Garden, where, even in the pit, you'll come out of the show in one piece?
Kate
Maybe because he lives around NY like myself and that is the only place he
can get to to see a concert. That was the stupidist thing I ever heard that
huge MTV bands play there to get as much money as possible. It is obvious
that you live nowhere around here if so you would know that there are not
very many places in NY that can accommodate for large groups of people and
not all groups can spend days playing in smaller venues so that is why they
play at MSG. By the way just because you don't like what is playing there
doesn't mean it is bad your taste is pretty shitty from what you have
posted about the bands that you like. What is the venue that you go to to
see a concert? What makes that venue different than MSG other than it is
probably smaller?I just think your answers would be intresting. Maybe you
can enlighten me.
Sgt. Peppers <Jag-...@worldnet.weezer.att.net> wrote in article
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Mayzy1
hey we are chimps from woburn sands in england and we wanna say hello
Nick H
> Dave is right about BU$H, because they do try to copy the Nirvana image
> fighters.
> second, that person who said Dave is mad at bush because veruca salt is
> touring with bush is an idiot! One, veruca salt isnt touring with bush
> anymore. two, Louise was at the foo's show in st.louis on sunday (july
> 13) and I know this because I was standing right below where she was
> standing and dave kept looking up there, so I did, and she was standing
> there. Also, the people on the point, radio station, where standing
> with her up there and they said she was there the next day on the radio.
> I also saw that circus mag where Gavin said he hopes there is elements
> of nirvana in bush because he liked nirvana.
> Finally, dave grohl has done more for modern music than gavin rossdale,
> or any member of bush, ever has or ever will. He played in one of the
> best bands ever, where bush is just a cheap, well tickets prices arent,
> imitation.
> To end, I like bush's music, but i hate gavin, but I still like their
> music, if that makes sense