Does Bon Jovi lip synch?
Dmitri Ovtchinnikov
Could somebody just clear this out for me:
Recently I've been to their concert and have had a shadow of a doubt
about their live performance. Although the band did couple of tracks live,
and
I could definitely tell it was live, some tracks sounded suspiciously
similar
(and I mean note -by note) to the versions found on Crush CD.
From their Leno appeareance I knew what to expect from live sound,
but 'It's My Life' was vocally ideal in concert, unlike on Leno, where John
didn't quite make it on some high notes.
Any answera are appreciated
Thanks in advance
Dmitri
Sambo-Chris
had this discussion a few time back because of some TV appearances where they
had to play playback. Jon said it is a torture.
yours
Christine
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MrPretend
half of the music came playback. You know all those "not real insrtuments"
you can hear in the track.
Pretend
Sambo-Chris <jov...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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> You can be damned sure that they play live. Jon hates it to play playback.
We
> had this discussion a few time back because of some TV appearances where
they
> had to play playback. Jon said it is a torture.
>
> yours
> Christine
>
> Dmitri Ovtchinnikov wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Could somebody just clear this out for me:
> > Recently I've been to their concert and have had a shadow of a doubt
> > about their live performance. Although the band did couple of tracks
live,
> > and
> > I could definitely tell it was live, some tracks sounded suspiciously
> > similar
> > (and I mean note -by note) to the versions found on Crush CD.
> > From their Leno appeareance I knew what to expect from live sound,
> > but 'It's My Life' was vocally ideal in concert, unlike on Leno, where
John
> > didn't quite make it on some high notes.
> >
Dmitri Ovtchinnikov
And here's what we have so far: most people who replied, said either
that Bon Jovi doesn't mime, or that some of the instrumental parts are
recorded.
Instruments, samples - are fine by me. I wouldn't expect a 5 musician band
to
sound like an orchestra, so if that improves the overall sound impression
i have nothing against it.
It's the recorded vocal part that looks like a deception or betrayal to
fans.
If you are about to go to their concert anytime soon (there are concerts
coming up in Sweden,
Germany, Austria, England, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland in August)
please try listening their live performance
of "It's My Life" in Japan (http://www.bpk-home.de/soldout/audio.htm)
and the CD version of the same song.
Compare the vocals at the concert to what you heard.
Which one does it sound closer to?
And of course they wouldn't dare to lip synch (if they ever do) on big shows
like
in London..
Still looking for the truth...
Timo Stork
band played one note deeper and the singing was absolutely not the same like
on the album.
For me it's absolutely ok when they play effects like in It's my life from
audio. But I myself just probably heard one thing that could have come from
audio or synthesizer.
Timo
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Daniel Rydén
"playback" then and give you my words about it on friday. See ya then! By
the way, have been to a lot of BryanAdams-concerts and there are no playback
at all at his gigs. All sounds live, how hard and strange it may be it was
100% live. Take Cloud #9 Remix for an example. Live, live and live again.
Hope BJ go the same race.
Daniel
Bryan Adams - Waking up the World Wide Web
http://www.algonet.se/~dryden
Eric Smith
the backstage with jbj multimedia section and you can tell it's 100 percent
live. About some songs sounding near perfect, that is to be expected. For
example: "You Give Love a Bad Name" -- they only sing this song on EVERY
performance, and it doesn't allow for a lot of variation.
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L@dy99
the THESE DAYS tour and on a few tracks I thought he was lip synching. He
was "off" with his singing ...his mouth movements didn't match up! This was
the only time I was ever disappointed with my favorite band of all time. I
hope this isn't true though
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Colin Burchfield
or electricity. So, if you were watching on a screen or sitting very far back,
then it would seem as if the vocals didn't fit the sound.
Stick,
Colin
L@dy99
with the stage....ummmm I had to use binoculars...so I wasn't that close to
the stage but wasn't the farthest away either. I thought that maybe there
was a possibility that there was lip synch....I truly hope the band doesn't
do this in live concerts.....Also that was only on the THESE DAYS tour I
thought this.......I saw the NEW JERSEY TOUR twice and it never crossed my
mind.
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Dmitri Ovtchinnikov
To my ears Japan record sounds definitely live too.
I meant before going to concert try to listen to 2 versions of the song,
and afterwards try to measure what you've heard on the concert against these
two.
#1 CD
#2 100% live recording from Japan.
(http://www.bpk-home.de/soldout/audio.htm)
I could tell the Japan recording is live pretty easily.
Signs: they sing half a tone down from CD version
(probably to save John's voice cuz sometimes he sings to his upper limit),
mixing of backing vocals and lead vocals sometimes
isn't right, John takes another note than on CD (0 min 44 sec), adds notes
(0m25s, 2m22s)
adds occasional words (2m23s) or throughs them out (3m44s), the words are
sung
at different pace(0m31s), the total length of the song (3m59s compared to
3m43s
this one is easy to check and the deviation should be within few seconds:).
These are the signs to look for on the upcoming concerts.
And this is basically how I make sure that what I hear is live singing.
So, no checking of lip movements is involved.
And I by no means wanted to offend anybody, not the band, nor its loyal
fans, so pleeeease
don't get nasty on me for sharing an opinion..
I sincerely hope that my suspicions are false.
Colin Burchfield
non-synchronicity between sight and sound...my thoughts anyway.
Stick to your guns,
Colin
Chris
a basketball, watch when the ball hits the ground, it won't match up with
the sound of the ball bouncing off the ground.
Chris
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Daniel Rydén
in the Gothenburg-gig! It was live and nothing but live. You better take
some music-lessons or go and check your ears... The concert? They rocked as
hell!!!
Yieehaa!!
Daniel R
http://www.algonet.se/~dryden