"they like bands like limp bizket. you get a crowd in the 16,000 capacity:
the intelligence level goes down to nothing. a bunch of stupid morons who
know nothing about music, who blindly go and listen to whatever is on mtv.
and for some reason, and i cannot comprehend this, they like ozzy.
DID YOU EVER LIKE OZZY?
i never listened to his solo albums. i always thought they were kinda
stupid. i mean, who fucking cares? i'd rather go to the movies any day
than sit through that limp, sorry shit. is anyone in the world ever going
to show me some worth for that worthless drug addict? ozzy is a
buck-toothed mummy. it's horrible; his brain is completely ruined, yet
they've propped him up every night with two teleprompters that have
six-inch letters of 'generals gathered in their masses." fuck you; i mean,
fuck you! forty bucks to see that fucking garbage. ozzfest is the most
ass-kissing garbage you will ever see. some of the most worthless turds in
the world run that."
i'd rather fail than be fucking mediocre
new sneakers die young
i ain't no goddamn son of a bitch
>I say, what a putrid, purile pathetic little whimpering twat that
>jealous, Ozzy-bashing
>"buzzo from the melvins" is.
Dident seem to whimper at all to me. Seemed to say it all pretty clearly.
It's true isent it?
Does Ozzy even wash himself? Or does Sharon bathe him? Their isent much left
in his head, or throat. Watch any interview, any live show, and its horribly
obvious.
-Andrew.
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"..the lines that define begin to gray and fade now..."
sticks and stones may break my bones
but cancer will probably kill me
Cut the man a little slack. I really don't have much to say about his vocal
ability other than it's gotten a bit worse over the years. He just hasn't
taken care of it. With that said, I'd rather have him on vox than anyone on
the planet --- crackling vocals, teleprompters and all. It ain't a real
Black Sabbath without him. I'm glad he's back and I really hope they get
back in the studio for a while. My only real criticism has been the way the
Reunion thing has been handled. I think it's been a bit self-serving on
Ozzy's part and I don't believe the PR machine behind what should be billed
as the musical event of the decade has done a particularly good job of
making the world see the import of this thing. I dare say it could have
been done better.....much better.
Crawdad
>I say, what a putrid, purile pathetic little whimpering twat that
>jealous, Ozzy-bashing
>"buzzo from the melvins" is.
>
>- Suzanne
Wow harsh words from the Gnos. Now now everybody's got one as John Lennon used to say
and this buzza is obviously trying to intice the alternative element.
Kids have to pick something thier parents aren't into to be cool ya know that's the rule.
And bazzu is just following that rule cause he's full of original thoughts ya know.
Or maybe it's sour grapes, didn't the melvins get passed over for the Ozfest some time in the past?
Anyway I can't defend him and don't care to.
the melvins sounds like a cool name for a band, too bad it turns out they aren't very cool at all from the sounds of it
just very jealous.
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Peter K
Toronto
Hey, i love the guy. Sabbath was my first band, and still very near and dear
to my heart-- but, as cruel and heartless as what Buzzo said was, it was
basically true.
> Or maybe it's sour grapes, didn't the melvins get passed over for the Ozfest some time in the past?
> Anyway I can't defend him and don't care to.
> the melvins sounds like a cool name for a band, too bad it turns out they aren't very cool at all from the sounds of it
> just very jealous.
Either way, Ozzy is a lousy performer. I saw him last year and well.
BO-RING. I still love Ozzy though. I loved his solo stuff, I love Black
Sabbath. Here's the kicker - I love the Melvins. Their stuff is totally
heavy and psychedelic and Sabbath-influenced. I would love to see them
on OzzFest. Who else is on Ozzfest anyway, besides Slayer, Primus,
Zombie and Fear Factory? No one I've ever heard of or would go out of
my way to see, that's for sure. The Melvins would make a fantastic
addition. Buzzo's right about propping the old fart up and having him
read off the teleprompters. I know, I've seen it. I've seen Ozzy
hobble around the stage like my grandma and point his little water gun
at the crowd. It sucks!
I dunno - Maybe he's actually got a fitness trainer and has gotten
himself together this last year or so.
And no, I'm not going to cut him some slack because he's 50 years old
and has been drinking and smoking the whole time. Lots of artists from
that time are still WAY livelier in concert (and some of them really
suck).
As a performer I dont think hes that bad and definitely not boring but as far
as his vocals are concerned,they suck.although some nights are better than
others but they still suck.Ive noticed Ozzy start deteriorating in the late 80s
and then all of a sudden the No More Tears tour he was sounding and looking
good,but ever since hes been on a constant downhill.Oh well maybe its time the
Oz focused only on studio stuff and seriously consider quiting the tours
because he has overexposed himself ever since Ozzfest began.But this does not
mean that this dickhead from the Melvins can publicly bash Ozzy,when this guy
Bozo or whatever his name is can fill 15,000 seat arena and match only half of
Ozzy CD sales then maybe ill listen to what he has to say.I mean after all Ozzy
and the Sabs were considered innovators of their time,and from what I know the
Melvins are influenced from the Sabs,so what does that tell you.
Peter K
William G. Pileggi wrote:
> Fuck buzzo? who will remember that worthless piece of shit? he wont be
> where ozzy is now when he is 50. the melvins suck in concert(I have had to
> sit though them 3 times) and their records are no better. Why the fuck
> were they on ozzfest is they hate it so much, the should have just dropped
> it if asshole couldnt stand it. fuck buzzo, i hope he gets cancer
> JASON GRAHAM wrote in message ...
> >
> >from the new issue of 'big brother':
> >
> >"they like bands like limp bizket. you get a crowd in the 16,000 capacity:
> >the intelligence level goes down to nothing. a bunch of stupid morons who
> >know nothing about music, who blindly go and listen to whatever is on mtv.
> >and for some reason, and i cannot comprehend this, they like ozzy.
> >DID YOU EVER LIKE OZZY?
> >i never listened to his solo albums. i always thought they were kinda
> >stupid. i mean, who fucking cares? i'd rather go to the movies any day
> >than sit through that limp, sorry shit. is anyone in the world ever going
> >to show me some worth for that worthless drug addict? ozzy is a
> >buck-toothed mummy. it's horrible; his brain is completely ruined, yet
> >they've propped him up every night with two teleprompters that have
> >six-inch letters of 'generals gathered in their masses." fuck you; i mean,
> >fuck you! forty bucks to see that fucking garbage. ozzfest is the most
> >ass-kissing garbage you will ever see. some of the most worthless turds in
> >the world run that."
> >
> >
> >
Your an idiot arent you?
I think you suck. I think your an idiot, and hope you die.
Im in no way jelous of you, but because Buzzo has a negative opinion of Ozzy,
he's jelous now?
Say what??? Is this a riddle or something?
Crawdad
> <<Say what??? Is this a riddle or something?>>
>
> Yeah...It was kinda confuseing.
>
> Basically what i am saying is this- agree or disagree with what Buzzo said,
> hate it or love it, the fact he doesent like Ozzy/Ozzfest DOES NOT make him
> jelous.
>
> To say he is jealous just because he doesent worship your hero is...stupid.
>
> And lets be honest here kiddies,
>
> A. Most of you hate Limp Bizkit.
> B. Very few of you have ever met/hung out with Ozzy. Now, i don't know if
> Buzzo has hung out with him, but he certainly was in the right place to do it.
Huh!?... What da bozo said could not be applied to anybody who even
remotely qualifies as a musician, not to mention one of the most
influential people in rock music. Whether he's jealous or not is
irrelevant - an idiotic statement is an idiotic statement no matter what.
BTW, who's stupid and what's your point?
NStanev
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Yeah...It was kinda confuseing.
Basically what i am saying is this- agree or disagree with what Buzzo said,
hate it or love it, the fact he doesent like Ozzy/Ozzfest DOES NOT make him
jelous.
To say he is jealous just because he doesent worship your hero is...stupid.
And lets be honest here kiddies,
A. Most of you hate Limp Bizkit.
B. Very few of you have ever met/hung out with Ozzy. Now, i don't know if
Buzzo has hung out with him, but he certainly was in the right place to do it.
-Andrew.
Loveless 6 wrote:
> <<Jealousy is an ugly thing. It makes the frontman for a relatively obscure
> band(w/ very little talent) insult a legend.>>
>
> Your an idiot arent you?
>
> I think you suck. I think your an idiot, and hope you die.
>
> Im in no way jelous of you, but because Buzzo has a negative opinion of Ozzy,
> he's jelous now?
>
Exactly/
Your stupid, and that is my point.
Die.
But there is where your wrong.
I *did* voice my opinion. Take a few reading comprehension classes, not
everything in the world is meant to be taken at face value.
> <<BTW, who's stupid and what's your point?>>
>
> Your stupid, and that is my point.
Are you smart or something? You sure sound like it. (Tip of the day: "you
are" is abbreviated to "you're." "Your" is a posessive pronoun. Come back
next Thursday for your (note proper usage) grammar lesson.)
> Die.
I will, thank you. In a couple of decades, though...
> On 20 May 1999, Loveless 6 wrote:
>
> > <<BTW, who's stupid and what's your point?>>
> >
> > Your stupid, and that is my point.
>
> Are you smart or something? You sure sound like it. (Tip of the day: "you
> are" is abbreviated to "you're." "Your" is a posessive pronoun.
I think you meant 'possessive'. Don't they teach you how
to spell at Stanford? Too busy dating Chelsea Clinton I suppose;)
Jonathan (I is a spelcheking and grammer speshilist)
> In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990520...@myth10.Stanford.EDU>,
> Nickolay Boytchev Stanev <nbst...@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>
> > On 20 May 1999, Loveless 6 wrote:
> >
> > > <<BTW, who's stupid and what's your point?>>
> > >
> > > Your stupid, and that is my point.
> >
> > Are you smart or something? You sure sound like it. (Tip of the day: "you
> > are" is abbreviated to "you're." "Your" is a posessive pronoun.
>
> I think you meant 'possessive'. Don't they teach you how
> to spell at Stanford? Too busy dating Chelsea Clinton I suppose;)
It's called a "typo," you fuking* math freak...
And no, dating is not what keeps us busy here...:<
* Not to be confused with "fucking."
> Jonathan (I is a spelcheking and grammer speshilist)
Shpelshekin' - heh! Glammal - heh! Shpeshelist - heh! A Jedi craves these
not...
-Brian>from the new issue of 'big brother':
-Brian
Are you an idiot or somthing?
Did i ask for a dissection of my grammer/spelling/composition skills?
Im sorry he insulted your idol. Maybe you should cry...If it makes you feel
better, you could write Ozzy a letter...Send him a few dollars...Im sure he
cares.
I could care less what this bozo charachter said about Ozzy,Ive never heard of
the Melvins,and I wouldnt even know Bozo if i ran him over with my car.But some
people on this newsgroup are offended by his comments and you keep on defending
this bozo guy.So you are obviously not a Ozzy fan.Am i correct so far?It
appears to me that you have nothing else better to do with yourself other than
coming on here and insist on arguing with Ozzy fans,so I have a simple
suggestion for you. DISAPPEAR !!!!!!!!
And things will be much better around here.
Go to a different newsgroup.Hey I hear the Backstreet boys have one.
Peter K
sticks and stones may break my bones
but cancer will probably kill me
say no more!!!! stop embarrasing yourself and go read your latest issue of the
kiss army magazine or whatever it is you idolize of that 3 chord band which is
a disgrace to rock music.just a word of advice...if you ever want to make a
point when talking with adults,do not and i repeat do not start off with saying
that you idolized kiss of all worthless bands.
Peter K
The fact that you, Peter K, whose fucking nothing(whose going to remember you
in 50 years?) could say this about such innovators as KISS, is appaling.
Its incredible...How could you?
say no more. you obviously didn't comprehend what i said after that... i said
i GREW UP idolizing kiss. now that i'm all grown up and realize that they're
nothing but t bunch of lame businees men i could give 2 fucks about them.
seriously... finish reading something before you reply to it, you twat.
So now you know how it feels huh?Its ok when Bozo publicly criticizes Ozzy(a
living legend) and you go around defending him.But when someone says something
negative about Kiss then you get all freaked out!!!!
I dont hate Kiss.I used reverse pshyche on you and it obviously worked.I saw
Kiss in 76 here in Toronto and they put on a hell of a show.But I ask you? what
did Kiss innovate?
Glitter rock?
>
>The fact that you, Peter K, whose fucking nothing(whose going to remember you
>in 50 years?
who the fuck cares!!!!! nobody will remember me or you or that dickhead
Bozo.But Ozzy is in the rock and roll hall of fame.now why dont you think about
that for a while.
Peter K
oh, so youre a big boy now?does mommy still help you tie your shoes?
>i GREW UP idolizing kiss. now that i'm all grown up and realize that they're
>nothing but t bunch of lame businees men i could give 2 fucks about them.
lame business men??????? nothin lame about Gene and Pauls bank accounts.
>. finish reading something before you reply to it, you twat.
now thats classic...
Peter K
2) Ozzy is not the performer he used to be (for whatever reason). And an
easy target. Having said that, I saw B.S. at Ozfest here last year and
thoroughly enjoyed the performance. I was feeling particularly confused
that evening and had trouble arriving at a total for my fingers and
toes.
3) Black Sabbath are living on former glory nowadays, but who can blame
them.
4) Since when have Melvins been "drug free"?
5) "Buck toothed mummy" - that's quite funny. I will make a mental note
of that insult and plan to use it on flatmates when they do not shut the
refrigerator properly.
6) Buzzo is entitled to say whatever the hell he likes, but it doesn't
make him right.
I refuse to indulge in hero-worship or bitchy slagging off.
Goodnight.
--
Guy
Someone once called me a 'tit'.
<snip>
>I dont hate Kiss.I used reverse pshyche on you and it obviously worked.I saw
>Kiss in 76 here in Toronto and they put on a hell of a show.But I ask you? what
>did Kiss innovate?
>Glitter rock?
KISS invented nothing. They had a profound influence, yes, but they
invented nothing. Glitter rock was already there with Bowie, Mott the
Hoople, New York Dolls, etc.. Alice (and many others before him) had
done the stage show and make-up things, etc. KISS were influential,
but innovative? I can't see it.
>Peter K
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-Brian
>Im sorry he insulted your idol. Maybe you should cry...If it makes you feel
>better, you could write Ozzy a letter...Send him a few dollars...Im sure he
>cares.
>
(1) Melvins is pretty Black Sabbath influenced, yes, but this doesn't
forbid them from bashing the singer of the band. This is an especially
pressing point when Buzz is referring to Ozzy as a solo act. To give an
example, I have nothing but the utmost respect for Metallica qua
creators of thrash metal and I still listen to 'Justice' and 'Puppets',
etc. today. But when they go out there nowadays playing "Ain't my Bitch"
with James warbling his new vocal range around, I can only laugh and
ridicule them. Even though I respect them and some of their work, I
still find them incredibly silly and laughable. There's no contradiction
in holding this viewpoint.
(2) The members of the Melvins are completely drug-free, as you can find
by reading any sizable portion of their interviews. I don't know how you
placed them in the 'stoner' rock scene. Sure, they've toured with
Primus, White Zombie, and Nirvana, but they've also done tours and
musical projects with Mr. Bungle, Melt-Banana, godheadSilo, and Yoko
Ono. I'd say (as a rather ardent fan) that they belong more in the
progressive / art-rock scene. In any case, the important thing is that
there is no hypocrisy involved in Buzz calling Ozzy a 'worthless drug
addict'.
I don't see how anyone can get all upset about this, anyway. I consider
myself a Black Sabbath fan, but that doesn't mean I won't mercilessly
ridicule the members (especially Ozzy). One of the most entertaining
parts of metal music, I've always found, is the sheer goofiness of it
all. Just think long and hard about Iron Maiden, Dio, King Diamond,
Krokus, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Deicide, for example. The very thought of
these people makes me laugh almost immediately and I can't imagine that
anyone could take them seriously. And the same goes for Ozzy, in my
opinion.
Regards,
Cole Mitchell
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So now you know how it feels huh?Its ok when Bozo publicly criticizes Ozzy(a
living legend) and you go around defending him.But when someone says something
negative about Kiss then you get all freaked out!!!!
I dont hate Kiss.I used reverse pshyche on you and it obviously worked.I saw
Kiss in 76 here in Toronto and they put on a hell of a show.But I ask you? what
did Kiss innovate?
Glitter rock?
>
>The fact that you, Peter K, whose fucking nothing(whose going to remember you
>in 50 years?
who the fuck cares!!!!! nobody will remember me or you or that dickhead
Bozo.But Ozzy is in the rock and roll hall of fame.now why dont you think about
that for a while.>>
Oh my god....The fact that i just took exactly what you said about Buzzo and
said it about you, for trashing KISS, and you dident see the blatant irony
is....pathetic.
Well, the Melvins have a drummer named Dale Crover, he was considered god by
one Kurt Cobain, and influenced his band Nirvana...As big an influence as
Sabbath? I don't think so, but still, you never know.
Exactly. And it doesent make you right, to disagree with him, yet this whole
newsgroup just said he was an idiot, for his opinion.
You really think so? Give me 3 reasons.
what? dont try turning this thing around.It seems to me that you can dish it
but cant take it!!!
Listen you god damned mental retard, i was trying to make a point, but
obviously your to thick to see it.
I could give a fuck about KISS, i don't listen to them, or care about them, i
was simply trying to point out your hypocrisy.
Yeah, well he is an idiot, so is Ozzy and you, and me for that matter.
(In a Stimpy voice) But I wouldn't have it any other way, Ren.
--
Guy
Up yours, Grandad.
>DID YOU EVER LIKE OZZY?
<loads of silly crap deleted>
"Let me see your fuckin' Buzzo Voodoo-Dolls!
What do you say to Buzzo? 'Fuuuck You!!!! Fuuuck You!!!! Fuuuck
you!!!!'"
(Ironically, "Little Dolls" on stereo now.) ;}
Whips, Chains, & Hugs,
- Suzanne
-Brian
-Brian
What? You fucking retard, that doesent make sense.
When you take the time to listen, i'll listen to you, till then grow up a
little.
Bullshit he did.
He said "when i was little, i listend to music like Led Zepplin and Black
Sabbath, and i appreciated the music, but it never struck a chord, and never
meant much to me. Then around 1978 i found out about Punk rock....."
Read a little kiddie.
Exi-tease my ray day member half lost a beat away. Purst in like a one way
sender war give a heart like a fay.
Cuz I can ford a red eed only street a wide a ree land.
Robert Plante
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Now Playing: Fairport Convention
-Brian
-Brian
><<I'll give you one...they sound like just a bunch of crappy noise. Now, will
>you
>be able to accept *MY* opinion or will you have to jack off to it again like
>you did a few months ago?>>
>
>What? You fucking retard, that doesent make sense.
>
>When you take the time to listen, i'll listen to you, till then grow up a
>little.
>
The best thing to happen to music since the original Black Sabbath?
<<I dont like the riffs,>>
So?
<<I dont like the solos,>>
Solos? Name me *one* song that has a solo in it.
<<I dont like the vocals.>>
And yet you like trouble? My god...there must be somthing wrong with you.
<blank stare>
Eat your chauvinist male cramps and die. Come back when you've
had enough soap for lunch.
--SOB
....yeah....
Hmm...they are? Ask anyone else here if they are. Thats your opinion, not mine
and probably not anyone elses either.
><<I dont like the riffs,>>
>
>So?
Well I happen to think good riffs in heavy metal make up for a good song. But
thats just me.
>Solos? Name me *one* song that has a solo in it.
Damn exactly my point, man. Doesnt have any solos, so whya re you saying
they're such a great band? Isn't a great band suppose to at least know how to
play the fucking guitar?
>And yet you like trouble? My god...there must be somthing wrong with you.
>
I guess its a matter of taste then. And which Trouble songs or albums have you
listened to before? BTW, you may not like Wagner, but according to trhe Stoner
Rock Mailing List polls, Wagner is right up there as the best vocalist. BTW,
ever heard the songs "Breathe...", "Bastards Will Pay", "Victim of the Insane",
"Tales of the Brave Ullysses", "At the End of My Daze", "Misery Shows (Act
II)", "Opium Eater", "Requiem", "Sleeper", "Fear", and jesus christ...so many
others. Hey you have the right to your opinion, but listen to more than just
one album which is probably "Plastic Green Head", and BTW, Wagner is like 40 in
that album, a total dope addict, and I still think he sounds great. And if I
were you, I'd check out his band Lid's '97 album "In the Mushroom" and tell me
he isn't a good vocalist in that album. I dont like Acid Bath, you dont like
Trouble (or just Wagner), so can we both shut the hell up now?
-Brian
The soap seems to be working. :0)~
--Söny
Now thats total BS.
First off on a techical level, find *anyone* who is a competent player, and
have them say they cant play guitar. The music is intricate, with alot of
time changes, and so forth.
They do have a solo in the song "The Blue" and in older songs not relesed(and
the covered Lord of this World note perfect). They also have bass solos, and
drum solos.
Soloing is not a reflection of talent or skill, but rather technical ability,
which is pretty easy to come by.
I have to disagree on this one. Sure, some guitarists (or musicians,
in general) can solo for days and it is purely technical wanking. On
the other hand, there are musicians like Stevie Ray Vaughan who play
with a vast amount of emotion and power. His solos come from his
soul. Anyone can play the notes, but can they play the notes with
emotion and feeling?
As for the Melvins controversy, I think the Melvins are a great band.
They have a unique sound that is like trying to run through a pool
filled with Jello. And then there is Buzz's hairdo...
"I was the filthiest word at the vandalized grave"
--Alice Cooper
Exactly, and soloing is, like i said, not a reflection of talent or skill, but
technical ability.
Now, im not knocking solos, im just saying their *very* easy to do. And i
agree a true solo is felt, not a Van Halen type solo(imo) which is just someone
showing off.
Im just pointing out here, however, that just because you put a solo in a song,
doesent make you much of a musician, it just makes you a musician with a solo
in your song.
Case in point- The Misfits "We Are 138"