FUCK Full Moon Productions
Kaoswar
malefice
> never answers emails, too fucking slow, poor prices....fuck em
you ain't shitting there buddy! i gave up on them too when they sended
me crapflutes as alternatives
wewe
charges for merchandise not delivered....
tell me if this is bad business....made my order on april 11 2004 with charges
to have priority mail (which they immediately charged to my credit card
account)....waited for 2 weeks and nothing, so i asked and they finally emailed
me back saying they mailed on april 20.....it is now may 1st and
nothing....can't blame the postal system because i got three priority mail
packages from the east coast and it was mailed out this week!!!!!!!
BEWARE....do NOT order from Full Moon Propaghanda!!!!! some honest and fast
distros are
dark symphonies
razorback records
red stream distro
blackmetal.com
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charges
> to have priority mail (which they immediately charged to my credit card
> account)....waited for 2 weeks and nothing, so i asked and they finally
emailed
> me back saying they mailed on april 20.....it is now may 1st and
> nothing....can't blame the postal system because i got three priority mail
> packages from the east coast and it was mailed out this week!!!!!!!
>
> BEWARE....do NOT order from Full Moon Propaghanda!!!!!
I ordered on February 27, 2004 - contacted jon/thorns (gen...@fmp666.com)
about it during the first two weeks of April; he has been investigating
since and we have been in periodic contact. As of today's email, he tells me
he's looking for the postal receipt, since I paid for express shipping and
delivery confirmation.
I don't know what's going on, but he does continue to answer emails at this
time.
I will keep you posted on the status of this order, as well as in my distro
review of Full Moon Productions/FMP666 here:
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>
> dark symphonies
I've had good experiences with the above. Also:
http://www.theajnaoffensive.com/
http://www.vinlandwinds.com/
http://www.geocities.com/hatanity/ForeverPlaguedRecords.html
http://www.cursedproductions.com/
http://www.elegyrecords.com/
http://www.amd.lv/beverina/
All of the above have been very professional and fast.
Listing of metal mailorder distros with service reports here:
http://www.anus.com/metal/db/mailorder.html
I do not recommend:
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> about it during the first two weeks of April; he has been investigating
> since and we have been in periodic contact. As of today's email, he tells
me
> he's looking for the postal receipt, since I paid for express shipping and
> delivery confirmation.
>
> I don't know what's going on, but he does continue to answer emails at
this
> time.
Further update:
jon/thorns (gen...@fmp666.com) says the order has been sent priority mail
and should arrive by the end of the week. So far all contact has been very
professional, and despite the length of time, at no point has Full Moon
Productions become unresponsive. I will continue to post updates here as
necessary, but for me it's important that they show both sides of this
story. I like to joke with people that I've gotten a year older waiting for
this order, but it's only because I had a birthday during the time of its
duration!
Full Moon Productions website:
http://www.fmp666.com/
Full Moon Productions email:
gen...@fmp666.com
Full Moon Productions review:
http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
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> http://www.fmp666.com/
>
> Full Moon Productions email:
> gen...@fmp666.com
>
> Full Moon Productions review:
> http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
Other threads on Full Moon Productions/fmp666.com:
"Is Full Moon Productions reliable?"
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=6cogqi%24dj7%40bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net
"Query about Full Moon Productions"
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3B5C2CFD.BCF20E7A%40geocities.com
You can also see all messages posted from Full Moon Productions here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=author:fmp%40fmp666.com+
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=author:exidy%40arcade-classics.com+
It looks like they are indeed active, and it appears these past threads have
either been resolved peacefully or died a premature death, which inspires
some confidence.
While we're at it, can other users post their Full Moon Productions
experiences? I think it's helpful to have a central thread where we address
this question and let both sides of the issue shine.
MH
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Another great source: www.anja.com
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> > http://www.fmp666.com/
> >
> > Full Moon Productions email:
> > gen...@fmp666.com
> >
> > Full Moon Productions review:
> > http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
>
> Other threads on Full Moon Productions/fmp666.com:
>
> "Is Full Moon Productions reliable?"
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=6cogqi%24dj7%40bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net
>
> "Query about Full Moon Productions"
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3B5C2CFD.BCF20E7A%40geocities.com
>
> You can also see all messages posted from Full Moon Productions here:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=author:fmp%40fmp666.com+
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=author:exidy%40arcade-classics.com+
>
> It looks like they are indeed active, and it appears these past threads
have
> either been resolved peacefully or died a premature death, which inspires
> some confidence.
More Full Moon Productions discussion:
http://www.relapse.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=53856
Still a mixed bag. I will know personally soon enough if this order arrives
by the end of the week as has been suggested by Jon/Thorns.
Jack
PS: I am a SPAMMER
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> > BEWARE....do NOT order from Full Moon Propaghanda!!!!! some honest and
> fast
> > distros are
> >
> > dark symphonies
> > razorback records
> > red stream distro
> > blackmetal.com
>
> Another great source: www.anja.com
http://www.theajnaoffensive.com/
?
Edward M
a delay back in December I guess because of the christmas rush after talking
with them on the phone I received the packaged roughly 3 days later. I
continue to support Full Moon Productions/fmp666.com. -Ed
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Productions/fmp666.com has been an honest label, reliable and will work with
anyone if theres a problem. -Ed
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had
> a delay back in December I guess because of the christmas rush after
talking
> with them on the phone I received the packaged roughly 3 days later. I
> continue to support Full Moon Productions/fmp666.com. -Ed
> > jon/thorns (gen...@fmp666.com) says the order has been sent priority
mail
> > and should arrive by the end of the week. So far all contact has been
very
> > professional, and despite the length of time, at no point has Full Moon
> > Productions become unresponsive. I will continue to post updates here as
> > necessary, but for me it's important that they show both sides of this
> > story. I like to joke with people that I've gotten a year older waiting
> for
> > this order, but it's only because I had a birthday during the time of
its
> > duration!
Today's private mail (a bulletin board function) from jon/fmp666/thorns:
From: fmp666
To: prozak
Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:54 am
Subject: Re: February 27, 2004 order
so even though we are working with you on this, you are still giving us this
bad review?
you have ordered from us only 1 time and remember, we have been working with
you on the order. if anything you are unable to say 'we advertise stuff
without having them in stock' because you have only ordered once. we update
our site every 3 days, so thats impossible to advertise stuff we dont have
in stock.
jon
Full Moon Productions
This label isn't bad; they're cheap, reliable and only slight Middle Eastern
in monetary matters. The release of Ildjarn's "Northstar," sold as a full
price but containing older versions of 20 minutes of material, burned a lot
of us on the integrity of this joint, as did their failure to contact the
artist about the release. However, otherwise they appear to be reputable and
orders arrive quickly. Often sells CDs for $10/pop.
Update: although they sell CDs cheaply, this label has declined in
reliability. I placed my last order on February 27th, 2004, and it's now
April 8th and there have been no replies to the two emails and one "personal
message" I sent via the FMP666.com bulletin board. It is said that normal
delivery times are 6 weeks, and the label often substitutes credit slips for
items which it continues to advertise as being in stock. When more
information is known, I will post it here.
2039 Roxburgh Court
Lakeland, Florida 33813
tel (941) 644-8664
fax (941) 701-9309
P.O. Box 6040,
Lakeland, FL 33807-6040.
tel/fax 863 644 8664
***
As I say above, we continue to look at the situation objectively, but as of
now this has taken an ugly turn: "how dare you write the truth?"
Full Moon Productions
have been working with him personally to find out what happened to his
package. His review of FMP is completely one sided when it comes to the
matter of the Ildjarn release.
We have been in business since 1991 and have a great reputation for being an
honest underground record label, yes we can be slow at times but NEVER a
ripoff.
jon/fmp
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P.O. Box 6040
Lakeland, FL 33807-6040
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He says:
"ok, i was unable to find a delivery confirmation for this package, so i
will resend the package today.
tell me exactly what you want and ill send it priority. "
I think this is professional of him and will report on what happens with
this package.
He also objects to our noting that he did not contact the artist about the
sale of Ildjarn's "Son of the Northstar":
Here is his statement:
"i disagree with your comments, unprofessional is the fact that you posted
information about us without directly talking to us. you assumed too much
with the Iljarn story and coming with a one sided conclusion.
yes, i authorized the re-issue on FMP. How is this? Freezing Records had the
rights to release it, i purchased the rights from them to release it -
therefor making it official. "
Here is the review:
>The release of Ildjarn's "Northstar," sold as a full
> price but containing older versions of 20 minutes of material, burned a
lot
> of us on the integrity of this joint, as did their failure to contact the
> artist about the release.
I am not sure exactly what he takes issue with, but we have agreed to add
"allegedly" to any public comments suggesting that "Son of the Northstar"
was an unauthorized release.
From the Ildjarn website:
This recording was supposed to be released sometime during the year of 1995
as a 7" vinyl record via Freezing records. In 2002, Full Moon Productions
released the recording without Ildjarn's knowledge in a Mini-CD format
limited to 1000 copies.
http://www.ildjarndomain.com/Discography.htm
It seems the artist and label are still in disagreement over this issue. I'm
not sure how whether or not CDs were sent in payment has anything to do with
whether or not this CD is "authorized," but it seems that according to
public statements, the original review only claims that the release took the
artist by surprise, which seems to be all that the artist's website claims
as well.
Further reports will be made here and on the review page as this order
develops:
http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
Full Moon Productions
Just one sided opinion. we have over 16,000 american customers and over
20,000 customers from abroad. yes, sometimes we are slow shipping packages,
to act like this is a normal occurance this is bullshit.
also, our online catalog is updated every 3 days - its very accurate, but
sometimes items DO sell out.
jon/fmp
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Kaoswar
delivery"??? and why even post 2-3 day priority mailing when it takes you 3-4
weeks to package and ship 4 cds......
Full Moon Productions
so yes, we once its shipped it takes 2-3 days to arrive.
jon/fmp
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Kaoswar
advertise "quick delivery" when it takes (i'm guessing) 2 - 3 weeks to get the
cds from your arsenal and package / ship the cds....
Kaoswar
FULL MOON PRODUCTIONS ALWAYS GUARANTEES A QUICK DELIVERY!
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>
> Just one sided opinion.
This was the original review:
Is your claim that this is one-sided?
Note : This recording was supposed to be released sometime during the year
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> define: (quoted directly from website)
> FULL MOON PRODUCTIONS ALWAYS GUARANTEES A QUICK DELIVERY!
>
Please see our review here:
http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
Although jon from fmp666.com claims it is "one-sided," I believe he is
mistaken. We praise the positive aspects of his label and note the
downsides, and mention a current order that has not arrived for the past two
months. To this, I have added in the resulting thread here that
jon/thorns/fmp666 is working with me via private mail to resolve this issue.
However, recently, he has posted here claiming that there is no truth to
what I say, so I recommend everyone get both sides of the issue regarding
Full Moon Productions:
Check the complete "Full Moon Productions" thread here:
I have done my best to be professional here and to keep both sides of the
issue represented, but jon/thorns from Full Moon Productions does not feel
that I have done so, and has referred to my review as lacking truth. Thus,
in the interest of fairness...... I suggest everyone read all of what is
posted here, and in the review, and if necessary contact jon/thorns/fmp666
at gen...@fmp666.com.
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> The guy from anus.com has only ordered from us one time
I believe jon is mistaken here: orders have been placed in the past. See
other posts in this thread. Once again, our intent is not to be one-sided,
and we've had a review page online about Full Moon Productions since 1996 or
1997.
You can find it here:
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> I cannot say that I feel the same about this. Full Moon
> Productions/fmp666.com has been an honest label, reliable and will work
with
> anyone if theres a problem. -Ed
You should read our full review here:
http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
It has both positive and negative aspects of Full Moon Productions, *as our
reviews tend to have when mentioning any distro or mailorder.*
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> You should read our full review here:
>
> http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
>
> It has both positive and negative aspects of Full Moon Productions, *as
our
> reviews tend to have when mentioning any distro or mailorder.*
>
> You can read other reviews here:
>
> http://www.anus.com/metal/db/mailorder.html
Our order of February 27th, 2004, arrived today, May 15, 2004, and all is
complete and kosher between us and Full Moon Productions.
The review, accordingly, has been updated and now includes more information
on Full Moon Production's side of the situation as well as the Ildjarn "Son
of the Northstar" 7" debate.
http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
Thank you for reading.
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complete and kosher between us and Full Moon Productions.
The review, accordingly, has been updated and now includes more information
on Full Moon Production's side of the situation as well as the Ildjarn "Son
of the Northstar" 7" debate.
http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
Thank you for reading.
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complete and kosher between us and Full Moon Productions.
The review, accordingly, has been updated and now includes more information
on Full Moon Production's side of the situation as well as the Ildjarn "Son
of the Northstar" 7" debate.
http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
Thank you for reading.
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complete and kosher between us and Full Moon Productions.
The review, accordingly, has been updated and now includes more information
on Full Moon Production's side of the situation as well as the Ildjarn "Son
of the Northstar" 7" debate.
http://www.anus.com/metal/db/fmp666.html
Thank you for reading.
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>complete and kosher between us and Full Moon Productions.
yeah, but look at the headache you got!!!! good to hear you got your item (s),
but for everyone else, let this be a lesson
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Good points. Not to be too apocalyptic, but it seems to me the metal distro
system is collapsing. Reasons are:
1. People want CDs at $10 including shipping, a rate at which no label can
make any money *unless* they trade worthless crap for other CDs.
2. There are so many bands, what is trendy one week is worthless the next;
therefore, to be a "good distro" one must not select the few musically
relevant bands, but what is trendy that minute.
3. Bands are basically interchangeable, so people start looking for novelty
and "rare" items, most of which deliver profit to sellers only six months
after release on eBay...
4. The newer fanbase have no idea what black metal stands for, and thus turn
it into a kind of really angry emo, and therefore will buy almost anything
if marketed correctly (credulous fools).
I think this explains why people are having an unusual round of problems;
there may be other causes and truths as well ;)