Bjork is not a Communist!
Robobork
JECr...@aol.com posted a message recently saying that Bjork is a
communist. This person doesn't know what the hell they are talking about,
and it's just deplorable that they are posting lies like this.
I think we all need to step back and take a deep look at what kind of
sicko would do this sort of thing. There are obviously a lot of freaks out
there- we've all been touched by it recently, I don't need to go into
details- and this person seems like they could be part of that group of
sick jerks. The message was obviously posted to incite some sort of angry
emotion.
Well, your message worked. I'm pissed! You can't just throw an accusation
like that around without backing it up, and expecting us to just buy into
what you are saying like a bunch of damn lemmings.
For example, the accuser posted:
>>
'the modern things' - a fantastic anthem to modern things and a challenge
to the common theory of evolution ... yes? no. It is also an anthem
for the late communist founder Chairman Mau.
listen to it ... she clearly sings his name near the close of the song.
>>
After listening to this song many times I can not find this reference to
the late Chairman Mao. Clearly you are reading way too much into this
woman's music, paying way too much attention to tiny details that are not
significant. Obsessing like that is always going to get you into trouble.
I think you should be sincerely careful about how you fling judgements
like that around, and about how you describe people and their endeavors. I
hope you never post tripe like this on our group again!
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robert dawson
Robobork wrote:
>
> JECr...@aol.com posted a message recently saying that Bjork is a
> communist. This person doesn't know what the hell they are talking about,
> and it's just deplorable that they are posting lies like this.
>
> I think we all need to step back and take a deep look at what kind of
> sicko would do this sort of thing.
So I was just wondering, what is so wrong with being a communist?
Ideally, communism is the ultimate form of social organization, in my
opinion at least. Everyone working for the good of all, what is wrong
with that?
I think you have communism confused with the totalitarian governments
that have run the few examples (of communism) we've seen.
Of course, we have to remember that communism is an ideal, and will
probably never work in reality like it does on paper.
there you go, either food for thought or something to get steamed over.
bob
Kieas
the world like he said?
JECrookes
deploring! golly - WHAT BIG FUCKING WORDS.
this is all very petty. you can HEAR it. YOU CAN.
And frankly, i;m disillusioned with the political naivity of you all.
i thought you'd be pretty shallow praying on an artist who sings
about demons and gods with quiffs but this just takes the piss....
communism is a destructive political system and i should hope
you'll all think thrice about bjork as a person and join me
in my quest to conquer the common market.
Capitalists are GO! unite and take over indeed.
Kieas
Dr. Geoffrey Hodgetts
robert dawson wrote:
> So I was just wondering, what is so wrong with being a communist?
> Ideally, communism is the ultimate form of social organization, in my
> opinion at least. Everyone working for the good of all, what is wrong
> with that?
i tend to agree somewhat although i personally think the best kind of
government is a non-existent one.
Seeing as Bjork is the most "pro-individuality" person I can think of, I
highly doubt that she would be a communist--she is an anarchist.
however--the whole thing was a joke anyway and people should stop being
so narrow-minded and tight-assed about communism in the meantime.
meli kai
Graham Cracker
JECrookes (jecr...@aol.com) wrote:
: communism is a destructive political system and i should hope
Communism is a progressive politcal system.
Capitalism is a destructive political system: just look at our
imperialistic foreign policy, the huge numbers of those living in poverty
or homeless, the total destruction of values where even the sexual act
has become a product and an ad campaign tool, where irrational fear and
paranoia and nationalism are the norm and not the exception. Your
capitalism is a plauge on the workers of the world.
: you'll all think thrice about bjork as a person and join me
: in my quest to conquer the common market.
: Capitalists are GO! unite and take over indeed.
You don't even use correct punctuation you illiterate lacky of the
capitalist death-machine.
I like Bjork before, but now that I know she's a marxist, I have even
greater respect for her both as an artists and as a person.
Lunargirl
>'the modern things' - a fantastic anthem to modern things and a challenge
>to the common theory of evolution ... yes? no. It is also an anthem
>for the late communist founder Chairman Mau.
>listen to it ... she clearly sings his name near the close of the song.
>>>
>After listening to this song many times I can not find this reference to
>the late Chairman Mao.
hmmm...i wonder...does he mean when
she sings " enginn ser mér *gibberish* (sounds like ´liii-ao-ouuh´)"
in the end of ´the modern things´? It means "no-one sees me
*gibberish*"
Kieas
but but beautiful things filled with dedicated people. I dont know if
many of are race are that hard working, but I always thought Bjork was
an anarchist. I suppose communism is economics and not government so it
is possible she is a communist.
Brian Williams
>After listening to this song many times I can not find this reference to
>the late Chairman Mao.
It sure sounds like 'Chairman Mao'. What is she singing, then? I'm
sure everyone knows which phrase it is that sounds like 'Chairman
Mao'. I don't have a problem regardless of what it is that she sings,
by the way. If she isn't a communist, fine. If she is a communist,
fine. She has a right to her own opinions.
Brian Williams
Johannesburg,
South Africa
Dean Smith
In article <533kfq$a...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, JECrookes
<jecr...@aol.com> writes
>deploring! golly - WHAT BIG FUCKING WORDS.
>this is all very petty. you can HEAR it. YOU CAN.
See? Arsehole. Sorry, but there you go.
JECrookes
As the original 'bjork's a communist' author,
I think i better say something before this gets way out of hand.
i'd like to introduce to the newsgroup a concept
which you may find difficult to comprehend.
' a s e n s e o f h u m o u
r '
thanks for the attention - i'm flattered my sense of deviousness
can attract so much.
i hope you feel suitably melodramatic.
Best wishes from a socialist workrs party member.
SWEET INTUITION - Bjork fanzine.
for info. email me at JECr...@aol.com
Graham Beek
In article <53bt2c$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, JECrookes
<jecr...@aol.com> wrote
>As the original 'bjork's a communist' author,
>I think i better say something before this gets way out of hand.
>
>i'd like to introduce to the newsgroup a concept
>which you may find difficult to comprehend.
>
>' a s e n s e o f h u m o u
> r '
>
>thanks for the attention - i'm flattered my sense of deviousness
>can attract so much.
>
>i hope you feel suitably melodramatic.
>
>Best wishes from a socialist workrs party member.
Well I thought it was funny, whether it was intended or not. Perhaps
Bjork could get British citizenship (if she hasn't already) and become
an MP? Or run for President in that big place across the pond!
Graham
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ryan alford
> Best wishes from a socialist workrs party member.
It figures. It takes a Castroite bonehead to start a red-baiting
flame war. Stick to your lame-o we love Cuba non-communist B.S activism
and stay the f**k of this newsgroup. Better yet, get the heck off this
planet. The world needs another fan of a fake socialist system just like
we need another deflected national revolution.
Get a life, and as for a sense of humour- Ha-hah! I'm not
laughing with you, I'm laughing at you, you flame baiting dumb**s f**kwit,
you miserable halfbaked wanna-be-a-red-the-easy-way piece of s**t!
Your name is mud, you s.o.b. BTW, Bjork rules. Nothing I hate
more than drifting way off topic because of some moron. Anybody else want
to kick this numpty's sorry a*s? Flame him to hell and back.
Dr. Geoffrey Hodgetts
ryan alford wrote:
> Anybody else want
> to kick this numpty's sorry a*s? Flame him to hell and back.
to start a war??????? Just breathe deeply and relax. JECrookes is a girl
by the way for the 5 millionth time. I don't know her and neither do you
so stop making retarded judgements--you weren't right last time I
checked.
I am not attacking you--and if you feel I am because I merely have an
opposing view--then you are a close-minded freak.
let's get back to discussion more important and relevant to this
newsgroup.
meli kai/melanie
Kieas
Graham Beek wrote:
>
> In article <53bt2c$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, JECrookes
> <jecr...@aol.com> wrote
> >As the original 'bjork's a communist' author,
> >I think i better say something before this gets way out of hand.
> >
> >i'd like to introduce to the newsgroup a concept
> >which you may find difficult to comprehend.
> >
> >' a s e n s e o f h u m o u
> > r '
> >
> >thanks for the attention - i'm flattered my sense of deviousness
> >can attract so much.
> >
> >
> >Best wishes from a socialist workrs party member.
>
> Bjork could get British citizenship (if she hasn't already) and become
> an MP? Or run for President in that big place across the pond!
>
> Graham
>
> Graham Beek
but it was all in good fun. It was interesting to see how many people
actually understand what communism really is. There may be hope for
humans afterall. Unfortuantly there are still a few with hard feelings
on the matter. Oh, well.
danny
> deploring! golly - WHAT BIG FUCKING WORDS.
> this is all very petty. you can HEAR it. YOU CAN.
> And frankly, i;m disillusioned with the political naivity of you all.
> i thought you'd be pretty shallow praying on an artist who sings
> about demons and gods with quiffs but this just takes the piss....
> communism is a destructive political system and i should hope
> you'll all think thrice about bjork as a person and join me
> in my quest to conquer the common market.
> Capitalists are GO! unite and take over indeed.
I have already joined Rach....If I couldn't say it then I'm glad that you
did...and come and take over...it's your turn now
:)
(zzzzzzzzzap) hope that you got my email
ps...you'll no doubt get three million people trying to yank your access
for saying FUCKING
FUCK FUCK BOLLOCKS SHIT SHAGG CRAP BUGGER
Oh well, never mind...sorry kids!
Kieas
Robobork wrote:
>
> Dean Smith wrote:
>
> >In article <533kfq$a...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, >JECrookes
> ><jecr...@aol.com> writes
> >
> >>this is all very petty. you can HEAR it. YOU CAN.
> >
>
> the group... the same thing I fell for originally when she posted
> re:crying. That everyone is so damn tense about everything and no one
> gives each other breaks. She and I have talked about this a bit and I was
> quite embarassed when I was taken in by her joke a few weeks ago, and I
> played along with this communist thang because I think she's got a point-
> that everyone on this group needs to chill out a bit and not be so harsh
> with each other, to try and be more helpful.
>
> But here you are calling her an asshole.
>
Your right. We shouldnt be fighting, atleast not here.
ryan alford
Ok, ok. Sorry. But this stunt really got under my skin... and to
think I expected more from SWP (US) members.... I'm just going to have to
let it go....
Robobork
Dean Smith wrote:
Grumpus.
JECrookes
Seeing as you are SO desperate to prove i
a) seriously think a 'warble' of bjork's proves
she is a communist b) that i am an arsehole
can i clear something else up?
the very lovely ROBOBORK was in on the joke too...
and her timely reply to my 'devious' accusations was
fabricated,contrived ,planned etc. etc. etc,
so, am i still an arsehole?
i think i may be, but you only say this because my bait
made some of you get on your right high horses and
start taking blatantly ridiculous messages seriously. too seriously.
it's fun to watch you squirm and shout. you make me laugh.
from arsehole in all probability, rachel
"sweet intuition" Bjork zine
email JECr...@aol.com
p.s i've made as many enemies as friends - not bad
really, makes a change from the chit chat normally tolerated
on one of the most boring devices for small minds - the newsgroup.
danny
Robobork wrote:
>
> Dean Smith wrote:
>
> >In article <533kfq$a...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, >JECrookes
> ><jecr...@aol.com> writes
> >
> >>deploring! golly - WHAT BIG FUCKING WORDS.
> >>this is all very petty. you can HEAR it. YOU CAN.
> >
> >See? Arsehole. Sorry, but there you go.
>
> the group... the same thing I fell for originally when she posted
> re:crying. That everyone is so damn tense about everything and no one
> gives each other breaks.
Well at least Rachel has achieved something, I didn't believe that there were such saddoes that
would fall for the nonsense, but obviously there are...and I thought I was the only one who felt
sorry for Deanie (aw!)
> She and I have talked about this a bit and I was
> quite embarassed when I was taken in by her joke a few weeks ago, and I
> played along with this communist thang because I think she's got a point-
> that everyone on this group needs to chill out a bit and not be so harsh
> with each other, to try and be more helpful.
I think that was the idea, but a lot of people (I'm sorry to have to say this, but mainly
Americans) don't understand the concept of irony and never apologise for their actions.
>
> But here you are calling her an asshole.
>
> Grumpus.
Well look whose the arse hole now Dean!!??
Danny Liddington
dou...@net21.co.uk
danny
Same here Rach, I thought the internet had a lot more potential than
wideboys and I suppose that it's never gonna shake off its media imposed
image of speccy anorak nerds (not geeks) sitting in front of a screening
arguing with everyone, while holdng a conversation with their virtual
girlfriends (boyfriends).
Danny
dou...@net21.co.uk
Chris Forsberg
On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Lunargirl wrote:
> >'the modern things' - a fantastic anthem to modern things and a challeng=
e
> >to the common theory of evolution ... yes? no. It is also an anthem
> >for the late communist founder Chairman Mao.=20
>=20
> >listen to it ... she clearly sings his name near the close of the song.
>=20
> hmmm...i wonder...does he mean when
> she sings " enginn ser m=E9r *gibberish* (sounds like =B4liii-ao-ouuh=B4)=
"
> in the end of =B4the modern things=B4? It means "no-one sees me
> *gibberish*"
No, I'm sure he didn't mean that part....that part is at the very end of
the song. I know the part he means, at 3:08 into the song, she says this
phrase that sounds sorta like "Chairman Mao" 4 times. It could either be
Icelandic, or pure gibberish; she has admitted she sings gibberish at
times.
-Chris
--
fors...@charm.net Chris Forsberg
Chris Schnurr
hi ryan alford, on 08-Oct-96 13:59:31,
you wrote about Re: Bjork is not a Communist! :
>JECrookes (jecr...@aol.com) wrote:
>> i hope you feel suitably melodramatic.
>> Best wishes from a socialist workrs party member.
> It figures. It takes a Castroite bonehead to start a red-baiting
>flame war. Stick to your lame-o we love Cuba non-communist B.S activism
>and stay the f**k of this newsgroup. Better yet, get the heck off this
>planet. The world needs another fan of a fake socialist system just like
>we need another deflected national revolution.
> Get a life, and as for a sense of humour- Ha-hah! I'm not
>laughing with you, I'm laughing at you, you flame baiting dumb**s f**kwit,
>you miserable halfbaked wanna-be-a-red-the-easy-way piece of s**t!
> Your name is mud, you s.o.b. BTW, Bjork rules. Nothing I hate
>more than drifting way off topic because of some moron. Anybody else want
>to kick this numpty's sorry a*s? Flame him to hell and back.
>
******STOMP*******
******WHACK*******
******STOMP*******
******WHACK*******
******WHACK*******
******STOMP*******
******WHACK*******
******STOMP*******
(straps headphones to ryans ears)
Calm down Ryan ! it's only a news group !
(puts in Gling Glų and hits 'play')
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... Running Thor at 50Mhz with no Micro$oft in sight. Let alone Intel ...
Robobork
yea, chill please...
Dean Smith
In article <325E8A...@net21.co.uk>, danny <dou...@net21.co.uk>
writes
>Well look whose the arse hole now Dean!!??
From here it looks like you, dear. ;)
Dean Smith
In article <53h3dq$3...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Robobork
<robo...@aol.com> writes
>But here you are calling her an asshole.
But... but... she is one! ;)
Dean Smith
In article <545qad$f...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Robobork
<robo...@aol.com> writes
>I just wish you would stop being such a tough guy. You seem to really
Didn't you see the smiley? Coo, you wasted so many words and got worked
up and you didn't even see the smiley! Talk about a tight arse, it's no
wonder you can poo! Hahahahahaha!
I bet you're a closet commie as well, eh? Lighten up!
Robobork
Our pal Deanie writes:
I just wish you would stop being such a tough guy. You seem to really
enjoy picking fights with people on this group, because there's no
face-to-face reciprocity, I suppose. You like to talk a lot about how all
these people on the group piss you off, how so-and-so is an ass for doing
this and that, and it's all crap. It's just a fucking waste of time.
It's sad that you use this group as a place to take out your aggressions.
I love Bjork's music- it makes me really happy to listen to her. I come
here to talk to other people about positive things regarding her and her
projects, not to have it out with people.
I will admit that perhaps JECrookes and I sometimes took her little joke
too far. I know some people got pissed. But she, and then I, did it to
prove a point- this should be fun, not a place where people attack each
other. I learned that in a rather embarassing fashion a few months ago,
and I wish you and others like you would take the hint. I don't mean to
sound like Rodney King, but I don't see why we can't all just get along.
It would be much more fun and we could stop bothering people with these
meaningless crap postings.
That's all I have to say on this topic. In other lands, yay! Possibly
Maybe is out soon and I am stoked! Yay!
:-) Peace, Jenni
Dj Cerk
> communism is a destructive political system and i should hope
> you'll all think thrice about bjork as a person and join me
> in my quest to conquer the common market.
> Capitalists are GO! unite and take over indeed.
I have already joined Rach....If I couldn't say it then I'm
glad that you
did...and come and take over...it's your turn now
:)
(zzzzzzzzzap) hope that you got my email
ps...you'll no doubt get three million people trying to yank
your access
for saying FUCKING
FUCK FUCK BOLLOCKS SHIT SHAGG CRAP BUGGER
------------------------------------------------------------
I can tell that you are British...RE: Bollocks, Shagg, bugger.
What about "wanker" or "tosser"... I think they are brit
words? A tit? ha ha.
peace,
cerk
igriggs
Good one, Jenni! I just hope that I am not the only one on this group
who agrees with what you say here. Anybody here remember Canned Heat?
One of their big hits was "Let's Work Together" - let's do it!
IAN (U.K.)
JECrookes
i;d like to say summat (surprise surprise)
tight arse? poo?
Over serious?
heh heh heh .... hypocrite?
Rachey x x x x x x
p,s don;t you start on my robobork now!!
if you do it again .. well .. i'll 'ave yaaa!
Robobork
Thanks, Rach! I love a gal who will put her boxing gloves on for me! ;-)
Graham Beek
>I don't mean to
>sound like Rodney King, but I don't see why we can't all just get along.
>It would be much more fun and we could stop bothering people with these
>meaningless crap postings.
Here, here!
>
>That's all I have to say on this topic. In other lands, yay! Possibly
>Maybe is out soon and I am stoked! Yay!
Is that a soon 'soon', a 'telegram is out soon' or a 'the fanclub will
be up and running and ready to send out the Cybergirl T-Shirts soon' ?
>* * * * * * * *
>Read my zine! "Buffalo Speedway": a big 'ol plate of art 'n' stuff! Single
>issues are $2 (and two stamps, if you are an angel), or a groovy trade;
>submissions are always needed, including music reviews and commentary! For
>more info e-mail me at: Buff...@aol.com
>* * * * * * * *
Jen, are yours and Rachel's zine's in competition?
Graham
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Graham Beek
>I can tell that you are British...RE: Bollocks, Shagg, bugger.
>What about "wanker" or "tosser"... I think they are brit
>words? A tit? ha ha.
>
That's a 'shag' with one 'g'. Never mind, good try though. Now come
down the apples and pears, nip down the kermit and get me some Rosie
Lee...
Robobork
>Is that a soon 'soon', a 'telegram is out soon' or a 'the >fanclub will
>be up and running and ready to send out the Cybergirl >T-Shirts soon' ?
(Queried in response to my joyous cry about Possibly Maybe being released)
Graham, contact Intergalactic Garage to pre-order the Possibly Maybe 3-CD
set for $23.98 + $4 s&h. Alan tells me they will ship at the end of
Oct./early Nov. The official release date is Oct. 28.
Yay! ;-)
Guy C Wolford
HEy Graham!!!!
and perhaps later, we can go for some bangers and mash and ge pissed
on a few pints of Guiness??
Cheeers!
Guy.
In <PxTQFNAf...@beermat.demon.co.uk> Graham Beek
Guy C Wolford
I dont know, after reading some of the stiff about IGG and the possibly
maybe and enjoy 12" limiteds on BEP i dont think i'd trust em.
Guy.
In <54jk18$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> robo...@aol.com (Robobork)
writes:
Robobork
I have purchased a variety of stuff from them and it's been pretty cool. I
think that that instance with the 12-inchers was a fluke. I talked to Alan
and he says he had no idea they would only get such a small amount of them
and not be able to fill all their orders. Y'all should give IGG a little
break, I think.
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Subject: Re: Bjork is not a Communist!
From: nt...@ix.netcom.com(Guy C Wolford)
Date: 24 Oct 1996 05:52:37 GMT
Message-ID: <54n075$r...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>
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Dean Smith
In article <54bnjl$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, JECrookes
<jecr...@aol.com> writes
>if you do it again .. well .. i'll 'ave yaaa!
Do you know Grant Mitchell? Hehehehe!