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A.

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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It would seem from the clip of "Play Dead" on VOLUMEN that it was on the
soundtrack to some Harvey Keitel movie. What exactly is the movie
excerpted in the Björk video? I can't find any mention of Björk on a
soundtrack to a Harvey Keitel film, and this one has me stumped.

A.

igriggs

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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The film is "The Young Americans".

IAN (U.K.) - bjor...@yahoo.com

Maria Salomonsson

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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Hello,

On 21 Feb 1999, A. wrote:

> It would seem from the clip of "Play Dead" on VOLUMEN that it was on the
> soundtrack to some Harvey Keitel movie. What exactly is the movie
> excerpted in the Björk video? I can't find any mention of Björk on a
> soundtrack to a Harvey Keitel film, and this one has me stumped.

That would be "The Young Americans". It must be so irritating for you
American Bjork fans who have to deal with Electra. "Play Dead" was the
first solo Bjork song I heard, it was a huge hit here in Sweden. Still
when Bjork is mentioned, it's like "Oh, she's the one who did Play Dead
and IOSQ and that other song when she jumps on a truck... I like that
one!".

Very best regards,
/ Maria


A.

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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Maria Salomonsson wrote:
>
> when Bjork is mentioned, it's like "Oh, she's the one who did Play Dead
> and IOSQ and that other song when she jumps on a truck... I like that
> one!".

When Björk is mentioned here in America, it's often like, "Who's Björk?"

A.

Lord Zedar the apostate

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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On 21 Feb 1999 20:25:14 GMT, "A." <awoo...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>It would seem from the clip of "Play Dead" on VOLUMEN that it was on the
>soundtrack to some Harvey Keitel movie. What exactly is the movie
>excerpted in the Björk video? I can't find any mention of Björk on a
>soundtrack to a Harvey Keitel film, and this one has me stumped.

Young americans, from memory!

>
>A.


igriggs

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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Hi Maria,

Here in the UK, "Play Dead" received tremendous exposure on
TV as it was used as the background music for a major advertising
campaign for Vauxhall cars. I notice that many short Bjork clips are
still used a background music and links on UK TV ads and programmes.

IAN - bjor...@yahoo.com

Maria Salomonsson <di9...@student.hk-r.se> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>

> On 21 Feb 1999, A. wrote:
>
> > It would seem from the clip of "Play Dead" on VOLUMEN that it was on the
> > soundtrack to some Harvey Keitel movie. What exactly is the movie
> > excerpted in the Björk video? I can't find any mention of Björk on a
> > soundtrack to a Harvey Keitel film, and this one has me stumped.
>

> That would be "The Young Americans". It must be so irritating for you
> American Bjork fans who have to deal with Electra. "Play Dead" was the
> first solo Bjork song I heard, it was a huge hit here in Sweden. Still

> when Bjork is mentioned, it's like "Oh, she's the one who did Play Dead
> and IOSQ and that other song when she jumps on a truck... I like that
> one!".
>

BjorkRulz

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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I think it's call "Young Americans"

Maria Salomonsson

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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Hi Ian!

On 22 Feb 1999, igriggs wrote:

> Here in the UK, "Play Dead" received tremendous exposure on
> TV as it was used as the background music for a major advertising
> campaign for Vauxhall cars. I notice that many short Bjork clips are
> still used a background music and links on UK TV ads and programmes.

Yes, I can imagine that. From what I have understood (apart from Iceland),
the UK, Denmark and France are the locations where Bjork receives most
attention. Also, you in the UK are lucky enough to have all those gorgeous
music shows, like Jools, the White Room etc. I wish we could have
something like that in Sweden too. :-)

Adam Mulvey

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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A. wrote:

> It would seem from the clip of "Play Dead" on VOLUMEN that it was on the
> soundtrack to some Harvey Keitel movie. What exactly is the movie
> excerpted in the Björk video? I can't find any mention of Björk on a
> soundtrack to a Harvey Keitel film, and this one has me stumped.
>

> A.

"Play Dead" is from the soundtrack of "The Young Americans".


Randall Watson

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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On 21 Feb 1999, A. wrote:

> Maria Salomonsson wrote:
> >
> > when Bjork is mentioned, it's like "Oh, she's the one who did Play Dead
> > and IOSQ and that other song when she jumps on a truck... I like that
> > one!".
>

> When Björk is mentioned here in America, it's often like, "Who's Björk?"
>
> A.

Unfortunately, that is the reaction to most electronic or electronic
sounding music. (Bjork is electronic sounding in my opinion, and if a
store has an electronic section, Bjork is often there.) Electronic music
just refuses to catch in the States.

Common "_____? Who's _____?" reactions: Bjork, Portishead, Prodigy,
Chemical Brothers, Underworld, Orbital, FSOL, and anything else electronic

Hopefully, we will come around sometime soon. Assuming crap happy pop
like the Backstreet Boys, 'NSync, the Spice Girls, Hanson, etc. dies out
soon, I hope electronic will take over as the current hip-hop phase cools
down. This is when we will need "talentless media whores" and "Bjork
rip-offs" like Madonna to help the public make the transition.

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Gus7005

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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it is the Young Americans, a druggie gangland movie in London, the sone plays i
think 3 or 4 times through the movie


Ugliness Man

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990222...@glsn10.ews.uiuc.edu>,

Randall Watson <rwa...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
> Common "_____? Who's _____?" reactions: Bjork, Portishead, Prodigy,
> Chemical Brothers, Underworld, Orbital, FSOL, and anything else electronic

what country do you live in? (that wasn't hypothetical or sarcastic, i'm
actually asking). around here (canada, and i assume US as well), you'd never
hear "Who's ____?" for Chemical Brothers ("Setting Sun" was a mild hit) or
Prodigy (manufactured controversy brings recognition even if it doesn't sell).
and i almost never get "Who's Bjork?", but i sometimes get reactions like "oh
yeah, she's that weird chick who did that 'shhhhhhh shhhhhh' video". not in
the electronica field (but often making interesting use of electronics), i
often get the "Who's ____?" reaction for They Might Be Giants.

UgM
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Randall Watson

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Ugliness Man wrote:

> In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990222...@glsn10.ews.uiuc.edu>,
> Randall Watson <rwa...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
> > Common "_____? Who's _____?" reactions: Bjork, Portishead, Prodigy,
> > Chemical Brothers, Underworld, Orbital, FSOL, and anything else electronic
>
> what country do you live in? (that wasn't hypothetical or sarcastic, i'm
> actually asking).

I live in the You Ess Ay, specifically Illinois. I am going to a
university in a college town, which means I have the benefit of college
radio. The main "college radio" station has a one hour electronic show
late Sunday night. And another station has a two hour show once a week.
Other than that, there is no electronic. It's all alternative, much of
that is alterna-crap. Most other stations are Top 40, Lite Rock, or
country (gag).

> around here (canada, and i assume US as well), you'd never
> hear "Who's ____?" for Chemical Brothers ("Setting Sun" was a mild hit) or

The only CB song anyone around here might know is Block Rockin' Beats. It
was popular for a few minutes at parties.

> Prodigy (manufactured controversy brings recognition even if it doesn't sell).

No kidding (not sarcastic). Controversy was the original Madonna formula
and is the current Marilyn Manson formula. I don't see Prodigy as being
particularly controversial, though, especially when compared with Manson.
Manson invariably shows up when "shock music" is discussed in the popular
press.

> and i almost never get "Who's Bjork?", but i sometimes get reactions like "oh
> yeah, she's that weird chick who did that 'shhhhhhh shhhhhh' video".

I guess it depends who you are asking, but I think I would get a Who's
Bjork from the majority of the people asked.

> not in
> the electronica field (but often making interesting use of electronics), i
> often get the "Who's ____?" reaction for They Might Be Giants.

I've heard of They Might Be Giants. They had that "Birdhouse in your
Heart" song or something like that, right? Around here, there is a better
chance of people recognizing TMBG than Bjork. I have never heard a Bjork
song on the radio that I remember. Never.

> UgM
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Ugliness Man

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Feb 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/24/99
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.99022...@glsn10.ews.uiuc.edu>,

Randall Watson <rwa...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Ugliness Man wrote:
>
> > Prodigy (manufactured controversy brings recognition even if it doesn't
sell).
>
> No kidding (not sarcastic). Controversy was the original Madonna formula
> and is the current Marilyn Manson formula. I don't see Prodigy as being
> particularly controversial, though, especially when compared with Manson.
> Manson invariably shows up when "shock music" is discussed in the popular
> press.

heh, kinda interesting that we see eye-to-eye on this, especially since i'm a
bit of a marilyn manson fan. i won't start defending him and claiming that
there's more to it than what some people see, i just happen to enjoy the
music. "The Horrible People" from the remix album is one of the coolest LOWD
song in my entire CD collection.

> > not in
> > the electronica field (but often making interesting use of electronics), i
> > often get the "Who's ____?" reaction for They Might Be Giants.
>
> I've heard of They Might Be Giants. They had that "Birdhouse in your
> Heart" song or something like that, right?

yup. if you ever want to know more, lurk on alt.music.tmbg for a week or two,
you'll see some very devoted fans. unfortunately, you'll see some rabid
elitism as well, but not much more than what is sometimes seen here.

A.

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Feb 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/24/99
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Ugliness Man wrote:
>
> yup. if you ever want to know more, lurk on alt.music.tmbg for a week or two,
> you'll see some very devoted fans.

They Might Be Giants are moderately popular here in North Texas, too.
They have even seen some airplay on alternative radio (when they can
find a space between Stone Temple Pilots and Sarah MacLachlan, that is),
whereas Björk, whose music seems much closer to mainstream (sorry)
tastes than They Might Be Giants', has been played MAYBE within the
confines of a new music show buried on Sunday night, the same one which
plays Pulp and non-"Lovefool" Cardigans.

All of this makes me wonder this: why does Björk receive no airplay on
American radio? I've never heard Björk on the radio, neither in North
Texas nor Southern California. What is the explanation?

A.

Ugliness Man

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Feb 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/24/99
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In article <36D39E...@worldnet.att.net>,

"A." <awoo...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> They Might Be Giants are moderately popular here in North Texas, too.
> They have even seen some airplay on alternative radio

i just have to ask something, then i'll stop talking about TMBG here. is "Dr.
Worm", the current single, getting airplay?

> ...and non-"Lovefool" Cardigans.

well, thank goodness someone knows that the Cardigans are much more than that
one song. even worse is that a lot of people have only heard that mutilated
thumpthump remix of it, which sounds like nothing else the Cardigans have
done. their newest album actually sounds a bit like Portishead at times, and
i know that Portishead and Björk have at times been compared to one another.
anyone wanna venture to compare Cardigans to Björk?

> All of this makes me wonder this: why does Björk receive no airplay on
> American radio?

just a theory: she's to electronic to be rock, and she's too "weird" to be
the generic dance that radio calls "techno".

A.

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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Ugliness Man wrote:
>
> i just have to ask something, then i'll stop talking about TMBG here. is "Dr.
> Worm", the current single, getting airplay?

No, just "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and "Birdhouse in Your Soul"
receive much notice, but there are a lot of fans in North Texas.

> well, thank goodness someone knows that the Cardigans are much more than that
> one song. even worse is that a lot of people have only heard that mutilated
> thumpthump remix of it, which sounds like nothing else the Cardigans have
> done. their newest album actually sounds a bit like Portishead at times, and
> i know that Portishead and Björk have at times been compared to one another.
> anyone wanna venture to compare Cardigans to Björk?

Definitely not. I would compare The Cardigans to Pizzicato Five, but
I'd never compare either to Björk. (I like GRAN TURISMO, but my
favorite Cardigans CD is LIFE. GRAN TURISMO seems a little forced to
me.) As for Björk to Portishead, I could see that, but it's like
comparing classical to Bernard Herrmann. I don't know, really; I think
Björk really defies most comparison.

> just a theory: she's to electronic to be rock, and she's too "weird" to be
> the generic dance that radio calls "techno".

So we listeners get stuck listening to that lazy, inspiration-free
version of "Blue Monday" by Orgy over and over? Where's the justice?

A.

Randall Watson

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Ugliness Man wrote:

> heh, kinda interesting that we see eye-to-eye on this, especially since i'm a
> bit of a marilyn manson fan. i won't start defending him and claiming that
> there's more to it than what some people see, i just happen to enjoy the
> music. "The Horrible People" from the remix album is one of the coolest LOWD
> song in my entire CD collection.
>

> UgM
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It seems that most of the fanatical right wing conservatives you hear
about protesting admit they have never listened to his music or seen a
concert, though one could easily argue that seeing a video is proof
enough. I'm not a Marilyn Manson fan, but I like a couple of his songs
such as Beautiful People and Dope Show. I get a kick out of the guy more
than anything. I have seen a few of his interviews and he seems like a
smart guy. Most of the things he says make sense.

Jesper Mølgaard

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Hi Maria, I live in Denmark, but I haven't heard Björk on the TV that much
(even though it would be nice), is it like that in Sweden ??

BTW. If you like Björk, you should maybe think of listening to a guy called
Leftfield ;-)

Maria Salomonsson wrote


>Yes, I can imagine that. From what I have understood (apart from Iceland),
>the UK, Denmark and France are the locations where Bjork receives most
>attention. Also, you in the UK are lucky enough to have all those gorgeous
>music shows, like Jools, the White Room etc. I wish we could have
>something like that in Sweden too. :-)
>
>Very best regards,
> / Maria


Sincerely
(D)Jesper

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but you can never go back.

Maria Salomonsson

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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Hello Jesper! :-)

On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Jesper Mølgaard wrote:

> Hi Maria, I live in Denmark, but I haven't heard Björk on the TV that much
> (even though it would be nice), is it like that in Sweden ??

Well it is like that... the last thing I saw on TV with Bjork that was
something original (not the Southpark or Bravo show) was the really great
interview by this lunatic Madsen on Danish TV. Did you see it? :-) He
supposedly also introduced the audience to Bjork (by wearing a wig and
dressing like Bjork, thereby at first fooling the audience!), when Bjork
was to perform in Denmark last time.
Also, there was this really great documentary (right from the
Icelandic TV archive) on the Sugarcubes (as well as PP, Tappi and Kukl),
which was broadcasted in '94, which IMO was far more interesting than the
Bravo show. That's about all, I think, unless you count 5 minute
interviews...

Hopefully it will change when Bjork will start recording the Lars Von
Trier movie in for instance Sweden. Sometimes I hear information on this
movie and Bjork is mentioned in connection with this.


> BTW. If you like Björk, you should maybe think of listening to a guy called
> Leftfield ;-)

I don't know who that is. Is it a funny remark or are you serious? :-)


Just have to add; Ian, keep on posting those messages; I love them!

ORau657158

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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it愀 almost the same here in germany. all thay say "YOU like this music?".

"Young Americans" is also great. Watch it. It愀 worth it.

Oliver

gra...@ug.cs.dal.ca

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In article <Pine.GSO.4.01.99030...@kobold.rby.hk-r.se>,

Maria Salomonsson <di9...@student.hk-r.se> wrote:
> Also, there was this really great documentary (right from the
> Icelandic TV archive) on the Sugarcubes (as well as PP, Tappi and Kukl),
> which was broadcasted in '94, which IMO was far more interesting than the
> Bravo show.

wow! can you describe this documentary? Finding an Kukl or Tappi on video is
*extremely* difficult. All I have is the thing they did on tv when bjork was
veyr pregnant. I would love to have an actual live concert on tape from 84-5.
The paris '84 cassette is incredible - i would love to *see* it.

so...any details onthe documentary would be great? What did they show? What
did they talk about?

thanks
mike

Maria Salomonsson

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Hello again!

Ok so your name is Mike and not Graham... sorry! :-)


On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 gra...@ug.cs.dal.ca wrote:
> wow! can you describe this documentary? Finding an Kukl or Tappi on video is
> *extremely* difficult. All I have is the thing they did on tv when bjork was
> veyr pregnant. I would love to have an actual live concert on tape from 84-5.
> The paris '84 cassette is incredible - i would love to *see* it.
>
> so...any details onthe documentary would be great? What did they show? What
> did they talk about?

The documentary shows clips from the '85 gig with Bjork pregnant as well
as clips from "Anna" and "Outward Flight". In the background Einar is
talking about Kukl as well, saying like: "It has been said that we are
only into death, religion and sex. That can be discussed, but we won't do
that here" also, describing that you have to go to zero to be able to move
on. Kukl go to zero via their music; also he says that they are very far
from the "star dream" etc.
They also show clips from the Melarokk gig with both Tappi and PP
(brilliant; Einar is crazy, beating himself with the mic in his head,
banging his head against the floor :-)).

All the members are interviewed. Siggi says for instance that the
Sugarcubes were making fun of pop music and that they couldn't believe the
Sugarcubes were taken seriously by the media. Bjork says that
Sykurmolarnir was all a big joke; which she only thought would last a
couple of months until she could further develop Kukl. Both Thor and Bjork
talk about the ideology and ethics of the Sugarcubes "earn less money and
be more independent".
They also show some clips when Bjork is in the studio recording
Debut. When they ask her whether the Sugarcubes will release another
record she says "I really don't know. The Sugarcubes live one day at a
time and when we decide to make another record, we will make another
record"; or when they ask her whether Debut will be as successful as LTG
she replies with something like "I really don't think so. I can only
follow my own instincts and I guess that only people who are into the same
things as I will buy it; and that is probably not many". Boy, was she
wrong! :-)


I have those Melarokk appearances with both Tappi and PP, as well as the
three videos Kukl made + the '85 Tv special (with Bjork pregnant). I would
kill for more live stuff with Kukl (or anything for that matter).
The Paris gig is so great it makes me shiver. Bjork sounds like
someone is torturing her; and the music is so heavy and scary. They
must have been out of their mind when they did it. It's so extreme you
can't believe it when you hear it (Kukl's studio albums are light in
comparison).

Puhh.... I think I must stop here or I will start crying because there
aren't any groups that sound like them.

Parappa

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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where can you find these movies? i'm in the States.

ORau657158 wrote:

> it´s almost the same here in germany. all thay say "YOU like this music?".
>
> "Young Americans" is also great. Watch it. It´s worth it.
>
> Oliver

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ORau657158

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Dunno where to find this thing in the states.
I taped it a few months ago from german TV.

Oliver

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