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BrianPK

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Jan 13, 2001, 6:53:45 PM1/13/01
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Did anyone notice some striking similarities
between Radiohead's Kid A and Homogenic?

Even aside from their similar esoteric, alienesque
thematic drives, there's just an overwhelming lot
they have in common.

There's the sense of something inherently dark and
primal boiling beneath the otherwise robotical surface
on both and both have hopeful allusions to morning near
the end (Alarm Call, Morning Bell).

They both have 10 tracks, with the opener and closer on
each having alot in common; Hunter and Everything's in
It's Right Place are both fleshy and low-impact, and
The Motion Picture Soundtrack on Kid A is almost functionally
identical to All is Full of Love. Bright majestic sonics, slow-paced,
kind of airy, spacy means of closing the albums on an upwards
tone etc.

I've also noticed Radiohead playing around with meter and
time signatures alot, somewhat akin to Bjork's efforts.

The major difference between the two IMO is that Kid A
suggests something of desolation and bleakness where
Homogenic would otherwise speak of love and emotion.

They're both incredible albums, and if Bjork possibly did
inspire any of it, more power to both of them.

Anyone else notice this?

-BPK


Jöga

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Jan 13, 2001, 9:10:15 PM1/13/01
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::nods::

For what it's worth, I also noticed this with the new Clan of Xymox album,
Creatures. There's an aweful lot of 'space' in the music, tons of _flow_, ya
know? Kid A and Homogenic are two other albums I see those qualities in.
Lots of space for emotionally charged builds and changes.. Everything is
kept simple, but the sounds that are used are used so damn well and arranged
so carefully, there's no need for more.

x_x - art fag for life. :}


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synth...@hotmail.com

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Jan 14, 2001, 2:19:31 AM1/14/01
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blah, it's just music. you're all reading way too much into it. just
enjoy it for what it is. It might be coincidental am I bet it's not
intentional. I am one to appreciate music for it's melody and tonal
qualities and not for it's subject matter or ideas. Argh, I dunno,
maybe I'm wrong.

S

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Harlem

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Jan 14, 2001, 5:39:14 AM1/14/01
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Hurray! Kid A is my favourite album!!!!!

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Iglú

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Jan 14, 2001, 8:32:57 AM1/14/01
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Pluto is quite on league with Kid A it's the most Techno
also the single version of Alarm Call
Everything in It's right place sounds quite Bjork-ish kinda like All Is Full
Of love


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"I'm no Fucking Buddhist but this is Enlightenment"
(Björk - Alarm Call, Homogenic, 1997)
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Intuition22

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Jan 14, 2001, 1:57:59 PM1/14/01
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I like it too. I suggest you go to:
http://www.warprecords.com/

and find out more about many of the electronic musicans that influenced
Radioheads sound on Kid A.

As beutiful as KID A is, it's not all that pioneering sonically. What is pretty
cool is that they made that type music into pop, and got it to be widely
recieved.

-Tom

Kleingeld Einstein

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Jan 14, 2001, 2:20:43 PM1/14/01
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Maybe, but Radiohead stole far more from Richard James and Mark Hollis
than from Bjork.

synth...@hotmail.com

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Jan 14, 2001, 4:41:10 PM1/14/01
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As far as I know Radiohead haven't stolen from anybody creatively.
I hear a little Autechre influence in the beats but that's about it.

S

Kleingeld Einstein

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Jan 15, 2001, 8:46:07 PM1/15/01
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> As far as I know Radiohead haven't stolen from anybody creatively.
> I hear a little Autechre influence in the beats but that's about it.

Have a little listen to Aphex Twin. Then find a used copy of Talk
Talk's "Laughing Stock". Then check back in.

Jason Zolghadr

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Jan 18, 2001, 3:42:03 AM1/18/01
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BrianPK wrote:
>
> Did anyone notice some striking similarities
> between Radiohead's Kid A and Homogenic?
>
> Anyone else notice this?
>

Yeah. Ever hear of Warp Records?

Intuition22

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Jan 18, 2001, 7:18:59 PM1/18/01
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LOL! WARp is a huge influence!
It's about time!

-Tom

Temp5181355223

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Jan 19, 2001, 4:07:21 PM1/19/01
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i'm sure u know that thom and bjork worked together on bjork's Selma songs
(dancer in the Dark soundtrack)!

Kleingeld Einstein

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Jan 20, 2001, 9:02:09 PM1/20/01
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Another name for Kid A is "Kid Aphex"

Intuition22

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Jan 20, 2001, 9:24:34 PM1/20/01
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LOL! . .pretty true. However there are certain sesitivites that are more
Plaid-like to me . . . for example National Anthem . . .the horns aren't very
Aphex Twin at all.

just a thought.
-Tom

KillYrIdls

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Jan 22, 2001, 2:22:42 AM1/22/01
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>Another name for Kid A is "Kid Aphex"
>
>
>

i still dont get that comparison.

and i'm still sick of everyone saying he ripped off him or she ripped off her.
its dumb.

KillYrIdls

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Jan 22, 2001, 2:23:22 AM1/22/01
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>Maybe, but Radiohead stole far more from Richard James and Mark Hollis
>than from Bjork.
>
>

"stole?"

Pete Cooper

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Jan 22, 2001, 9:14:24 PM1/22/01
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> both have hopeful allusions to morning near
> the end (Alarm Call, Morning Bell).

I fail to see this point. Morning Bell sounds pretty dreary to me. I can't
be bothered to decipher the lyrics though.

What, do you reckon, is the Bjork version of 'How to Disappear Completely'
(IMO the best song on KID A by far)?

Pete


Kleingeld Einstein

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Jan 22, 2001, 9:33:55 PM1/22/01
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> and i'm still sick of everyone saying he ripped off him or she ripped off her.
> its dumb.

Wow. Sorry.

isoboy

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Jan 23, 2001, 2:22:35 AM1/23/01
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oh come on, maybe if you isolated a few elements of the album, like treefingers,
or the drums on one or two songs. but please, the album as a whole sounds
almost nothing like aphex twin. seriously, it's a completely different thing
with verses and choruses and singers and guitars. people are way too eager to
demerit art by saying that it's derivative. it's such a cheap argument, an easy
way out.


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Kleingeld Einstein

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Jan 23, 2001, 8:24:57 PM1/23/01
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"Isoboy", I didn't invent it, I'm just passing the information along.
What is it with Radiohead fans? You know, Thom Yorke doesn't want to be
your bestest-buddy. I've never seen such a touchy group of people.

Dominic

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Jan 24, 2001, 12:33:40 AM1/24/01
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Pete Cooper <pe...@boog.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > both have hopeful allusions to morning near
> > the end (Alarm Call, Morning Bell).
>
> I fail to see this point. Morning Bell sounds pretty dreary to me. I can't
> be bothered to decipher the lyrics though.

I don't see the comparison there either.


> What, do you reckon, is the Bjork version of 'How to Disappear Completely'
> (IMO the best song on KID A by far)?

Nothing on Homogenic compares (that's not a value judgement about either -
they are just very different). The only Bjork that makes me feel the same
emotionally is her rendition of Gloomy Sunday even though musically again,
they differ greatly.

Dom

KillYrIdls

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Jan 25, 2001, 1:23:54 PM1/25/01
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or maybe i should just stay away from the Radiohead newsgroup...

i apologize.

Barnaby207

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Feb 1, 2001, 2:39:32 AM2/1/01
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Homogenic is actually original......and interesting musically. Kid A is purely
a bad ripoff of Brian Eno and Aphex Twin......it's not even very experimental.
It's just a stripped down, amateurish version of Ok Computer....

KillYrIdls

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Feb 1, 2001, 9:54:18 PM2/1/01
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that arguement is just a bad ripoff of other Kid A haters.

nobody said it was experimental.

did they rip off Brian Eno and Aphex Twin on Ok Computer to?

Das Monkey

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Feb 3, 2001, 9:12:51 AM2/3/01
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Barnaby207 wrote:

yeah, everytime i listen to how to dissapear, i keep getting mental images of aphex
twin. i mean, fuck, why be so unoriginal?
and please. EVERY aphex twin song sounds like everything in its right place,
national anthem, optimistic, in limbo, morning bell and motion picture soundtrack.

there are some aphex twinny sounds on title track and idioteque.

oh, and it's not a bad ripoff. give me one excellent aphex twin 'song' of ambient
works, and i garuntee you there's a song better than it on kid a.

i'm not being touchy, i just like arguing with people who read reviews of albums
then pretend they know something about music.

hah.

das.

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Thom Yorke

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Feb 3, 2001, 6:53:49 PM2/3/01
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Thank you for defending me, Das Monkey. Perhaps you can come hang out
at the house some time. We can be bestest buddies. Golly I'd love
that. You must be my number one fan!
Thanks again. Your pal,

Thom

Das Monkey

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Feb 3, 2001, 9:58:15 PM2/3/01
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Thom Yorke wrote:

screw you, hippy.
go release true love waits, THEN we can be friends.

until then, you're still my enemy.

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