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Joyce Maier

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Mar 16, 2002, 4:07:53 AM3/16/02
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For Don Miller and other interested persons, here's a list of (likely)
genuine portraits.

1. Beethoven as a 13-year-old, painter unknown (head).
2. Beethoven in about 1786 by Neesen (head).
3. Beethoven by Stainhauser/Neidl/Riedl (lost drawing by Stainhauser,
engraving by Neidl, painting by Riedl), in about 1800/1 (head).
4. Beethoven by Hornemann, miniature on ivory, in about 1802/3 (head).
5. Beethoven by Maehler, painting, in about 1804/5 (sitting, lyre in his
left hand).
6. Beethoven by Neugass, painting, in about 1806 (head).
7. Beethoven by Schnorr von Garolsfeld, in about 1808 (head, en profile).
8. Beethoven life mask and bust by Klein, made in 1812.
9. Beethoven by Letronne (drawing) and Hoefel (engraving), in 1814 (head).
10. Beethoven by Maehler, painting, in about 1814/15 (head).
11. Beethoven by Heckel, painting, in 1815 (head).
12. Beethoven by Hippius, drawing, in about 1815 (head).
13. Beethoven by Schimon, painting, usually placed in 1818, but according to
new research by Rita Steblin probably dating from 1816 (head).
14. Beethoven by Kloeber, drawing, in about 1818 (head).
15. Beethoven by Stieler, painting, in about 1819/20 (score of the Missa in
his left hand, pencil in his right hand).
16. Beethoven by Waldmueller, painting, in 1823 (head).
17. Beethoven by Decker, pastel, in 1824 (head).
18. Beethoven on his deathbed by Teltscher, drawing.
19. Dead Beethoven by Danhauser, drawing.
20. Death mask by Danhauser.
21. Two drawings of Beethoven walking by Boehm, in about 1819/20.
21. A drawing of Beethoven walking in the rain by Hoechle, undated, but
undoubtedly from the 1820s.
22. Beethoven sitting at a table in a coffeehouse by Klosson (pipe in his
right hand, newspaper in his left hand), undated, but undoubtedly from the
1820s.

There are also some pictures that maybe are genuine, but to this day there's
no certainty.
1. A drawing by Schwind in his sketchbook, date unknown (head).
2. Two drawings by Lyser in his sketchbook, date unknwon (one head en
profile, one figure standing).
3. Two drawings of Beethoven walking by Lyser, date unknown.

There are also portraits made during Beethoven's lifetime, but most probably
copies of one the above-mentioned portraits.
1. Bust by Dietrich, in 1821 (see for a refutation of the supposed genuity
the article by Rita Steblin in the Beethoven Journal, alas, I don't know the
number of the issue, at least not by heart).
2. Portrait in wax by Lang, probably 1815/18 (head).

The drawings/lithographies of Beethoven walking by Tejcek and Weidner date
from after his death, but probably the artists made them after lifetime
sketches, for they are very realistic.

Joyce Maier
www.ademu.com/Beethoven

James E Goodzeit

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Mar 19, 2002, 6:00:11 PM3/19/02
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"Joyce Maier" <j...@kabelfoon.nl> wrote ...

> For Don Miller and other interested persons, here's a list of (likely)
> genuine portraits.
[snip]

> 22. Beethoven sitting at a table in a coffeehouse by Klosson (pipe in his
> right hand, newspaper in his left hand), undated, but undoubtedly from the
> 1820s.

So Beethoven was a pipe smoker?

Joyce Maier

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Mar 19, 2002, 7:31:43 PM3/19/02
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Obviously. However, not much is known about this habit, so probably he was
not a fanatic smoker. BTW, I wrote that the date of this drawing is
unknown, but that not correct. The date is 1823.

Joyce Maier
www.ademu.com/Beethoven


Donn Miller

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Mar 20, 2002, 2:38:43 AM3/20/02
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Joyce Maier wrote:

> Obviously. However, not much is known about this habit, so probably he was
> not a fanatic smoker. BTW, I wrote that the date of this drawing is
> unknown, but that not correct. The date is 1823.

Allegedly, he also had a pair of glasses, too, but I'm not sure if he
was near or far-sighted, or if he wore them very much at all.


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Joyce Maier

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Mar 20, 2002, 4:47:01 AM3/20/02
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> Joyce Maier wrote:
>
> > Obviously. However, not much is known about this habit, so probably he
was
> > not a fanatic smoker. BTW, I wrote that the date of this drawing is
> > unknown, but that not correct. The date is 1823.
>
> Allegedly, he also had a pair of glasses, too, but I'm not sure if he
> was near or far-sighted, or if he wore them very much at all.

Short-sighted. When he was young he used to wear his glasses, though not
at home (as far as we know). When growing old he often was seen outside
without his glasses.

Joyce Maier
www.ademu.com/Beethoven


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