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Jerry Driver

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Aug 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/10/98
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Okay everyone, lets kill Ian Skillen who called MTV Total Request to request
One Week because, "its cool that they're a Canadian ska band" KILL HIM!!!
I've heard BNL called some bad things but SKA?!?!? NOOOOO!!! They are the
farthest thing from it! They are actually good, no great music and ska is
crap! Lets find this man and kill his teeny bopper ass! I won't stand for
it! Damn Stunt and its teeny-bopper attracting self! (why must it be such a
fine CD?) I wonder how many of these "instant fans" would like Maybe You
Should Drive or Gordon?

LB

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Aug 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/10/98
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I cracked up when I heard that kid call them ska. That's not a judgment on
ska. It's simply a judgment on this guy having no idea what ska is. It's
like people who call Boyz II Men "rap."

Lori


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Jizzo97

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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ska is actually really good music. and what type of music you like is your own
opinion, so please don't go saying that ska is crap.

YeahRiight

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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>'ve heard BNL called some bad things but SKA?!?!? NOOOOO!!!

Yes it is! SKA = Steve Kicks Ass!

=)

MDJSK

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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>They are actually good, no great music and ska is
>crap! Lets find this man and kill his teeny bopper ass!

um....hate to break it to you, but Barenaked Ladies are pretty much all
INCLUSIVE in their sound.....check out the song "grade 9". it's VERY ska.
now, i'm sure this guy you describe has no clue what he was talking about, but
ska is not just a passing fad for teenyboppers, just like BNL aren't. If you
think the only ska is what some "teeny boppers" listen to, you *really* need to
open your eyes.

-Jake (The Once and Future King)
www.angelfire.com/va/loserboi (don't EVEN go there....)

GordyAnd

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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>I cracked up when I heard that kid call them ska.

It's not half as funny as the time the kid got "One Week" confused with
"Flagpole Sitta" by Harvey Danger

-GORDY
"I will not have reporters pawing through our papers; *we* are the
president."--Hillary Clinton
"You don't have to wash your hands EVERY time you got to the bathroom! ...Like
the man said; it's not like you peed on your hands!"--Max Weinberg

KdsInThHal

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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>check out the song "grade 9". it's VERY ska.

uhh, no.

if anything i'd say "enid" is closer to ska... but hardly. what do you consider
ska?
. . . . . . .
*sarah
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"no ambition whisperin' over your shoulder;
isn't is amazing what you can accomplish, eh?" - the tragically hip

Skanxter

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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>>check out the song "grade 9". it's VERY ska.
>
>uhh, no.
>
>if anything i'd say "enid" is closer to ska... but hardly.
>what do you consider ska?

Coming from someone who got into BNL because a
major magazine reviewed 'Gordon' as "Canadian-
acoustic-pop-ska" and has been a rabid fan of ska
music for over a decade I'll back that "Grade 9" is
a ska song (in a 3rd wave kinda way) but no way in hell
is "Enid" a ska song. I also know that the boys are fans
of ska music because on one of their early tapes they
covered the 1967 Dandy Livingston ska classic "Rudy,
A Message To You". It's not a giant influence, but you
can tell that Madness and other 2 Tone ska was an
influence on BNL.

Jon

GeekyRice

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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while, being a ska fan, i wouldn't consider BNL a ska band, it sounds like one
of their many influences... one thing that has always struck me as ska is the
guitar on She's On Time.

*^* amanda *^*

mightygirl 737

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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Aaargh! I hate it when I read a message that makes me a bit snippy...
Please, oh please, don't call ska crap! I admit, some of the newer
fourth wave stuff is crap (No Doubt,Goldfinger, Save Ferris to name a
few), but ska as an overall genre is a phenominal form of music that has
been around since aproximately the late 50's/early 60's.
As for any BNL song being even remotely ska, sorry, I don't hear it.
Nothing even closely resembles it IMHO. Who cares, I still love BNL...
~jessica


MDJSK

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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sarah disagreed vehemently:

>uhh, no.
>
>if anything i'd say "enid" is closer to ska... but hardly. what do you
>consider
>ska?

It's all in the beat....the way BNL plays their guitars on "grade 9" is verrry
close to the way lots of ska bands do it. especially around the "blue and red
adidas bag" line. Lemme clear something up. I wouldn't classify the song AS
ska, but i would call the beat in most of the song ska-ish. and if you don't
hear it, you obviously haven't listened to much ska.
Also, i wasn't trying to say anything about BNL being ska, but that they're
very open minded in their opinion on music and what styles they embrace, as
opposed to the original poster's close mindedness.
jake
http://www.angelfire.com/va/loserboi
(personal web pages suck, don't they?)

Johnny Q. Buster

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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there are several of BNLs songs that can be easily translated into ska
songs, especially sho box, would make and excellent ska translation. not
all ska is crap. bands like no doubt, the reel big fish, and mustard plug
have proven that ska is music, just as much as the barenaked ladies are.
but i keep (in my own CD collection) the abrenaked ladies in the "cool"
section, right inbetween they might be giants and moxy fruvous.

-Johnny Q. Buster

check out the Johnny Buster and Peach Kings website at:

http://www.smu.edu/~alazara/jbuster/index.html

Jerry Driver

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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I apologize to those who enjoy ska if my comments offended them. I personaly
don't care that much for the genre. I'll admit that some songs could be seen
as having ska influences but I just don't like them being grouped as a ska
band, because they aren't..they are just great music..thats is their
category. My main beef was with the newbies who think One Week is how
everything they do is, but hey I was a newbie at one point and I had
thoughts in my head that everything was gonna be Brian Wilson, hopefully
these new "fans" will stick with them and not make BNL their "flavor of the
month"

Fender1374

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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barenaked ladies is a great Rock band and that is all there is to it.

now all of you just stop being stupid
-bensol

check out my site
http://www.angelfire.com/ny/FenderBoots/index.html

KdsInThHal

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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>you obviously haven't listened to much ska.

yes, unfortunately i have (the station i listen to, everyday during the school
year they'd switch over to a high school station where they'd play ALL SKA..),
and i think *most* of what *i've heard* ...bites. but that's my opinion.

i do dig madness though.

KdsInThHal

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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whoops, forgot this.

>Also, i wasn't trying to say anything about BNL being ska, but that they're
>very open minded in their opinion on music and what styles they embrace,
>as opposed to the original poster's close mindedness.

the original poster was not being "close minded." he (or she..?) was describing
the "average" mtv viewer / top 40 radio listener.. the kind of person who gets
into a band when they have a top single, only to usually forget about them by
next year. this type does not research the band, maybe even doesn't buy any of
their albums. i know a few people like this. some are just your average idiots.

just because the poster doesn't like ska doesn't mean they are close-minded
either. they must have heard it and given it a chance to make that decision.

ForKrisF

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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I thought most SKA music had horns in it??

snarlin' jim

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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OK, all you ska-literate sorts, help me out. I heard a ska song a couple
of years ago which had some indecipherable german singing then a chorus
which went -

'Pogo in Togo, pogo in Togo
Coca-cola in Angola, coca-cola in Angola'

Can anyone identify it?

Al


Dale Del Fierro

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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Ska is just teenybopper music? Boy, I'll bet the Skatalites would be mighty
surprised. I do hear a touch of ska influence in BNL, about as much as I
hear in a great deal of popular music. No horns though... although I have a
funny feeling that Kevin could probably do that too.

The so-called 4th wave of ska is not entirely crap. Like all genres of
music, there are always those performers who simply bastardize choice bits
of a given form in order to gain a profit. e.g. The Beatles culled bits and
pieces of rhythm and blues via skiffle and added their raw talent to create
a highly infectious blend. Hell, rock music in general IS bastardized
rhythm and blues. Compare classic country music and classic R & B sometime
and then try to figure the difference between pop and "new" country. I
enjoy many groups from the 4th wave of ska (Save Ferris, Goldfinger, etc.)
because I appreciate the influx of new blood and ideas into the genre. As I
see it, the 4th wave means less horns and more guitars but the ska feel and
rhythms remain intact. That being said though, I don't consider BNL as
neo-ska anymore than I consider them alternative.

DD


Leahy Family

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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Coming from a high school where the past four music teachers have had a
connection to the ska scene (trombone/trumpet players with Ruder Than You, the
Toasters, and the Freakin' Cats to name a few), I can tell you that ska
(especially 2nd-3rd generation) is a much-loved and respected, if not totally
commercially successful) musical form. Don't call it teenybopper music--there
are plenty of accomplished musicians who would quickly put you in your place.


Anne Louise Phillips

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