Crypt Records: No Thank You
pe...@aol.com
I will be the first to praise Crypt records and Tim Warren for his fine
taste in reissuing great music from the past. I love all the amazing
releases from garage to R&B to rockabilly.
But his taste for new music has totally gone south on me. Maybe
he really does love the tuneless stuff that Crypt releases now... But
I've heard all of the following Crypt bands and their records and they all
can be lumped into the same unlistenable basket:
DM Bob & The Defecits
County Teasers-(these guys can blow me!)
Cheater Slicks
The Oblivians
Fireworks
Jon Spencer
Teengenerate Crypt LP
I could go on & on......you get
the picture.
This music appeals to the young college alternative types....I will
pass. Too much other great stuff out there. Tim's arrogant liner notes
also kinda bore me anymore. Who really cares?
Sorry if this offends any of you noise fans out there. Sorry
Tim, I still love your reissue stuff. The new stuff blows big time.
Pete
Aaron Klein
Fuck you! When I hear shite like that I can only picture it coming from
some balding fossil cruising around listening to the beatles lusting for
the days when you could still hear Fleetwood Mac on the radio.Take note
punkers anything that pisses hippies off that much (especially the
Country Teasers)should be bought immediatly! The new Revelators 7" will
tear you a new asshole.Which I'm sure you would love.Send all replies to
someone who gives a shit.
Aaron
McKinley Richard
pe...@aol.com wrote:
>
> I will be the first to praise Crypt records and Tim Warren for his fine
> taste in reissuing great music from the past. I love all the amazing
> releases from garage to R&B to rockabilly.
> But his taste for new music has totally gone south on me. Maybe
> he really does love the tuneless stuff that Crypt releases now... But
> I've heard all of the following Crypt bands and their records and they all
> can be lumped into the same unlistenable basket:
> DM Bob & The Defecits
> County Teasers-(these guys can blow me!)
> Cheater Slicks
> The Oblivians
> Fireworks
> Jon Spencer
> Teengenerate Crypt LP
> I could go on & on......you get
> the picture.
> This music appeals to the young college alternative types
Well, I'd have to agree that some of this stuff does suck. Fireworks was
one of my favorite bands, but that record *is* pretty noisy.
Teengenerate? I think that CD captures them perfectly. At least it
reflects every time I've ever seen them (3 or 4 times). The first time I
heard it, I played it for a week straight. Crypt Style (Blues Explosion)
is pretty good. On the other hand, Oblivions, Raunchhands, they don't
reflect the great Crypt name.
But listen, I'm an old man too, but you're only as old as you think you
are. If you're worried about what "young college alternative types" are
listening to, then maybe you should start listening to some mature
modern rock. It sounds to me like it's not the music that changed, it's
just the listener got old.
-McKinley
Dan Iverson
Wow, I'm surprised/not surprised to hear your reaction to the
newer Crypt stuff. I do think its a stupid post though. Basically, you
just trashed some of the best new rock'n'roll bands out there.
Fine, personal tastes differ; but it kinda shocks me that someone
whose into the raw old R&B, rock'n'roll & rockabilly stuff in an energetic
way could be so down on the only bands out there who embody that pure
energy approach. Alternative? Sure, what the fuck, call us what you
will. But to MY ear the crap on the radio they call "alternative" is
distressingly pleasant, listenable, professional, stereotyped...the
Oblivion were none of these things (I heard Eric Friedl is going to the
joint for awhile; I assume that puts the skids on them)...neither was
Teengenerate, or Fireworks (both also now defunct). Seems to me your
coming at all this from a fat-old-man "oldies" perspective rather than
from a yearning for ever rawer, ever more primal rock'n'roll...what I see
as the whole "Garage" attitude...
Frankly, I like the last wave of noisy garage bands alot more than
most of the mid-80's psych/paisley underground/etc. acts (many exceptions
here...Lyres, Prime Movers, Mission of Burma, Milkshakes (&tc.), the
problem with many of those older acts being that they were TOO REVERENT
towards classic 60's sounds & so amounted to little more than "oldies"
cover bands. The bands that really stand out, that truly rule, fuck with
what there doing. Turn it on, turn it up, fuzz out, and FUCK THE DETAILS.
so maybe we could start a
fight over this?
Brett
Jesus Christ!! What the fuck have you put out? What's that? You can't get away from
your fucking computer? I hate motherfuckers like you who just sit back with their
dicks in their hand debating whats good and whats bad. I can't even beleive that you bag
on Crypt and then proceed to fucking hype Hunington Cads. Whatever!
Brett
Crypt
Chris Alfieri
>pe...@aol.com wrote:
>
> I will be the first to praise Crypt records and Tim Warren for his fine
> taste in reissuing great music from the past. I love all the amazing
> releases from garage to R&B to rockabilly.
> But his taste for new music has totally gone south on me. Maybe
> he really does love the tuneless stuff that Crypt releases now... But
> I've heard all of the following Crypt bands and their records and they all
> can be lumped into the same unlistenable basket:
> DM Bob & The Defecits
> County Teasers-(these guys can blow me!)
> Cheater Slicks
> The Oblivians
> Fireworks
> Jon Spencer
> Teengenerate Crypt LP
> I could go on & on......you get
> the picture.
> This music appeals to the young college alternative types
Young college alternative types?? I only wish. If you put on college
radio, do you know what you hear? LOUNGE MUSIC. I'm serious, Esquivel and
crap like that--which has gotta be the ultimate antithesis of
punk/rock'n'roll. I'm 23, and the only people I know who like "punk" listen
to NOFX, Rancid, et al. They would have no clue what Crypt Records is.
Sure some of these new Crypt bands suck, but some is great stuff
(Teengnerate, John Spencer). Pete, you've posted 100 times how you don't
like the production on "Get Action" - we get the point already.
chris
R. Kondrak
Played the first side of my Country Teasers 10" last night..when Stand By
Your Man faded out I sequed into a country porn single with the glorius
title "Sit On My Face Mama" just to remind me that the new boys on the
block have a ways to go to reach the well played novelty routinely
recorded by those pill popping daddies between oil rig jobs..been looking
for 7ts porno soundtracks to weave a set of spyfunk..anyone know if
the soundtracks on those vintage stip loops package on vid by Something
Weird have a trashy rock soundtrack..On the dusty Crypt boots..the first
track on the "Looky Dooky" cd is on The Oblivions turf, set there by
that rip and tear vocal attack..
1-888-inhaler
lgev...@aol.com
I have to step in and vote with Pete on this one.
Sooooooo much of what is being passed off as 'garage' music these days IS
tuneless, mega-LO-FI crud. Many of us that got into 60's garage music dug
it because much of it was spirited, often amateurish, but always cool
stuff by local bands trying to be the Beatles, the Stones or the Byrds
(and sometimes all three).
These days, the vast majority of the Crypt catalogue (as well as many of
the other 'garage' labels) is just a bunch of no-talents trying to
out-lame each other on someone elses dime ( isn't one Hasil Adkins
enough???). It's actually kind of funny that Tim Warren feels the need to
flush so much of his money down the shitter.
In closing, sounding like shit isn't punk, it's just sounding like shit.
LG
lgev...@aol.com
Hey Crypt guy!
A) Isn't it kind of ironic that you purveyors of the primitive have a
website?
B) How did you get a computer in your cell?
Just asking.
LG
pe...@aol.com
In article <329193...@concentric.net>, Brett <Cryp...@concentric.net>
writes:
Brett, what really set me off for my post was reading an ad by Crypt
Records for the Country Teasers album, where Tim gets into the usual
arrogant shtick of his. It just set me off into my own arrogant little
post. Sorry to offend, but I truly don't like the new stuff. I think Tim
and Crypt can take criticism since they dish out the insults so well.
Jeez, they insult just about everyone.
I still think the reissue stuff rules, and take nothing away
from all the great work Crypt has done. Remember, my taste will differ
from yours. It's just my personal opinion.
Pete
john lowe
> I will be the first to praise Crypt records and Tim Warren for his fine
> taste in reissuing great music from the past. I love all the amazing
> releases from garage to R&B to rockabilly.
it's attitudes like yours that are responsible for all these obscurities
comps and re-releases. if more people had recognized these bands for what
they were in their own time, rather than opting for the latest hot single
on american bandstand, then the music would have been readily available
all along and groups like the sonics, etc. might be household names, or at
least oldies radio regulars.
> But his taste for new music has totally gone south on me. Maybe
> he really does love the tuneless stuff that Crypt releases now...
?????????????????
do you like rock and roll pete? or do you need some hip "obscurities" seal
of approval?
> But I've heard all of the following Crypt bands and their records and they
> all can be lumped into the same unlistenable basket:
> DM Bob & The Defecits
> County Teasers-(these guys can blow me!)
never heard these two
> Cheater Slicks
kinda boring perhaps, but not tuneless and unlistenable.
> The Oblivians
oh, ye shall burn in hell for your sins! the oblivions are one fo the best
rock and roll bands today, period. and i find that their records capture a
lot of the live spirit and their live sound. popular favorites is one of
my favorite albums right now.
> Fireworks
never really liked them too much
> Jon Spencer
i think his crypt stuff is his only listenable stuff!
> Teengenerate Crypt LP
one of the top punk records of all time, hands down.
> I could go on & on......you get
> the picture.
thanks.
> This music appeals to the young college alternative types....I will
> pass.
goodness gracious aren't we bitter? i haven't seen any young college
alternative types a at oblivions shows or buying teengenerate records. i
think they're just appealing to some of the punk rock crowd that is
getting into bands like new bomb turks, humpers, candy snatchers and other
of those driving rock 'n' roll bands. and that's great because it means
that more bands are gettign recognized and heard and inspiring more bands
to start! more power to them! i'd love to see some turks/teengenerate
inspired bands start up around here instead of the pop-punk clones. and i
like pop-punk!
>Too much other great stuff out there.
like what? there's better albums right now than "Popular favorites?" i
mean i like the registrators lp a lot, and the queers, and the makers, and
am dying for those drags and fells lps that are said to be coming soon in
the estrus catalog.
are you saying that next time i spend 50 bucks on music, i should only get
"back from the graves' and lament old bands that never made it rather than
helping newer bands make it? that's sad, pete. don't you care about
keeping the garage scene alive in places besides your record player and
the latest catalog of $300 collectors records?
> Sorry if this offends any of you noise fans out there. Sorry
> Tim, I still love your reissue stuff. The new stuff blows big time.
well then don't buy it and give the stuff you don't like to people who
will. nah, they might be worth something someday right?
john <who also resents the ageism, want me to start going off about old
farts because you keep this up and i will!>
--
john lowe, lieutenant, austin garage rock militia
hip...@mail.utexas.edu archaeocore in full effect!
"Like who you like, be polite, and just avoid those who you don't"
-- Lali Donovan
"Lesley Gore's more of a punk than any of these kids in leather jackets and mohawks" -- Joe King
d.ford
Fireworks was
>one of my favorite bands,
hey howz the new import on au go go? opinions...
i dig fireworks. noise is good.
davis
moel...@aol.com
>>>radio, do you know what you hear? LOUNGE MUSIC. I'm serious, Esquivel
and
crap like that--which has gotta be the ultimate antithesis of
punk/rock'n'roll<<<<
Chris,
Hey, as a fan of Crypt stuff...I gotta tell you...I just can't agree that
Esquivel and 'stuff' like that is crap. In fact, I love Esquivel, Baxter,
Denny, Lyman and Drasnin and as much as I love Teengenerate, The Bomboras,
The Oblivions, The Mummies, and The Satelliters. Y'know, sometimes you're
in the mood to beat off and sometimes you are in the mood to just lay
under the covers. Just cause a raging band in a sweaty club makes one feel
good, doesn't mean the same person can't enjoy a dark, exotic, candle-lit
restaurant with Frank Sinatra playin' in the background! Just
cause............ (insert rhetorical analogy here).
Lee
Joseph Pach
I like Crypt; I honestly haven't heard much of the new Crypt stuff so I
can sway one way or the other. But most of the "garage" today is pretty
boring. I definitely give credit where it is due - to the bands who are
at least trying; and I am sure many are trying to contribute to punkdom.
But when it comes out sounding like all of the other lo-fi stuff (yawn)
it makes me realize that good bands are hard to come by. There was only
one Mummies, Phantom Surfers, Untamed Youth...these guys were the
creative ones. As for Teengenerate, well some of their stuff is good.
But as for the home-made Stooges and Dils t-shirts, come on guys; nice
tribute and all but I think I'll take "Cranked Up Really High" ,"The
Bitch", and "Class War" over "Wanna Drink" (hey that's a good one) any
day (however "Drive" is pretty good). Enough bitching; Crypt is so good
so far........We just need better bands, more originality.
gtw...@aol.com
The best 'new' music Crypt ever did was The Devil Dogs and the Billy
Childish comps (Thee Mighty Caesars and Thee Headcoats). Some of the
latest stuff is ok, but it some of it lacks that great rock'n'roll melody
that is an integral part of our genre.
Petter Tiilikainen
gtw...@aol.com writes:
Some of it lacks the turing-computability of the regular expressions
of garage rock.
Muhamba Muhabda Yessimir
hayhu...@aol.com
I gotta go with Pete and Larry on the Crypt new stuff, not my bag. But my
tastes not withstanding, I have this to ask all those the would defend Tim
& Crypt the ... well crypt, "Do you like the new Crypt stuff because of
the music or do you like because its on Crypt and has that special Tim
Warren Rock 'n' Roll seal of approval?"
Shagg Doggy Dogg
Mr B
I've been laying low the past week or two... not even reading this group
'cuz I've had so many delays with the Teen Scene. Various causes I won't
mention 'cuz... well, it doesn't matter.
Anyway, The Platterpuss called last night and asked if I'd seen this
whole thread. I hadn't... so today I'm reading it...
YEESH! Why are people so hyped up about an OPINION???
I agree, Pete writes these kinda things in an inflammatory way. However,
1) He's not old and bald... I'm 31 and he's got me by a few years, but
that's it. (I'm the balding one, though I don't see why anyone feels a
need to put people down just 'cuz they're losing their hair.)
2) Pete *loves* rock'n'roll of many, many types, from the 50s thru 90s.
It just so happens that he finds much of today's garage scene to be mired
in lo-fi muck. I have to agree that there are many bands that seem all
too satisfied just to slug it out, rather than trying to come up with a
good song.
3) My feelings on Crypt: I've known Tim Warren for over a decade. I
like him. However, we don't have the same tastes in music. Of course,
if everyone liked exactly the same stuff, life would be too complacent,
but that's not the point here. I love the BFTG LPs, but I also like some
of the stuff Tim has put out from newer bands over the years. However,
*my* personal faves came with his releases of The Devil Dogs (the best
group he ever did, I'd say), The Raunch Hands (tho' I still think their
Whap-A-Dang LP, which was pre-Crypt, was best), and The Mighty Caesars.
But that's my opinion. My opinions.
> DM Bob & The Defecits
> County Teasers-(these guys can blow me!)
Haven't heard either of these, so I won't comment.
> Cheater Slicks
This bunch pretty much bores me, but... that's me.
> The Oblivians
I prefer them live. The recordings I have feel like someone's
shoving broken glass down my throat. Of course, there are times I'm in
the mood for this stuff, too... just not in the morning. But - damn!
they're good live.
> Fireworks
I've only got one or two 45s by 'em, but it/they is/are pretty
cool. Kinda murky, but with a truly cool sound. I wouldn't lump them
into the same sort of lo-fi category as some other groups out there, tho'
it has something to do with that, too.
> Jon Spencer
I've *never* been a fan. Actually, I haven't seen him play live
since that gig at the Knitting Factory on July 3rd, 1991 or so, with The
Original Sins & The Lyres.
> Teengenerate Crypt LP
I *still* think their first 45 was the best record they did. As
far as I'm concerned, these guys were one of the best live bands of the
past few years. On record, though, they never truly excited me.
Does this make me an old fart? I don't much care. I like what I like.
4. I don't believe Pete ever said Crypt should *stop* putting out this
new stuff... just that it did absolutely nothing for *him.*
5. Brett from Crypt asked what records Pete has put out. As far as I
know, none. Neither have I. However, that doesn't mean we can't have
opinions on what other labels have put out. For instance, there's
little, if anything, I've liked of what I've heard from AmRep or
Dischord, but I still don't like that music and I'm quite willing to say
so. If you don't like my feelings on this matter, that's *your*
business.
6. Pete stated that Crypt dishes out the insults and, as such, they
should be willing to take criticism themselves. I have a hard time
disagreeing with that. Tim Warren has gone to great lengths to make his
opinions known over the years... Who can forget that huge ad he took out
a few years back in one or more major publications in which he pretty
much let the bile flow.
7. Lounge/exotica... I'm not into that scene, but I've gotta admit that
it does have a place. It's pretty good dinner music, for one.
Non-intrusive, etc. Lee's got that completely right.
8. My feelings on lo-fi - Personally, I think some stuff is good and some
absolutely bites. The difference is usually a matter of substance. But
I've already told you that I think songs are the most important thing.
9. Were the mid-80s groups too slavish? I don't think it's fair to say
"too slavish." First of all, I'll tell you right off that you wouldn't
have had most of those bands you love today if the 80s garage scene
hadn't been what it was... The ball had to start rolling. True, many of
them paid closer attention to the 60s stylings, but I've always believed
that was 'cuz punk had pretty much petered out by then.... well, at
least, it wasn't the same as before... most of the more energetic groups
had gone hardcore. 60s punk/garage offered something to those of us who
actually wanted something besides pure aggression and yelling, those of
us who were into songs.
In retrospect, sure, some of the groups were *extremely* 60s-like. But I
still love those sounds... The Chesterfield Kings first couple albums,
The Vipers, The Creeps, etc. Fantastic material. Just 'cuz it has a
strong 60s influence is *no* reason to put it down. If you don't like
those sounds, I understand that... But I *cannot* understand how you can
possibly say that they have less musical worth than something that sounds
lo-fi.
Look, I've written way too long now... I think many people have made
valid points... but let's just remember that this is all opinion.
Blair
platt...@aol.com
>"Do you like the new Crypt stuff because of
>the music or do you like because its on Crypt and has that special Tim
>Warren Rock 'n' Roll seal of approval?"
Good question! While I don't completely agree with Pete (don't completely
disagree either), the vehemence with which some people attacked him was
pretty scary. I don't believe in sacred cows, be they religious or musical
and I think that those who got so riled up might do well to ask themselves
why.
Jeff "Platterpuss" Shore
Joseph Pach
Blair, Lee, and Jeff pretty much summed it up.
Two cents...Exotica - boring? Exotica can be pretty cool. It was viewed
as boring 25 years ago because it was then already ten years old and by
that time had become leisure stuff "boring old farts" listened to. But
since it has had a long rest, its resurgence (though it is a few years
old) makes it sound fresh and cool in the light of all of the shit that
is currently being spewed out these days. In fact it is more similar to
punk rock now then ever before because, outside of your seventy-year-old
granny, everyone else in between thinks much of it is downright
irritating and obnoxious.
pe...@aol.com
In article <3294A2...@mail.idt.net>, Mr B <bla...@mail.idt.net>
writes:
> 60s punk/garage offered something to those of us who
>actually wanted something besides pure aggression and yelling, those of
>us who were into songs.
Exactly my thoughts. The songs should be the most important thing. I
became crazy about music when I was young and listened to NYC AM radio,
then got into the whole 70's FM thing in the early 70's with Led
Zeppelin/Bowie and such. Then Bruce Springsteen in '75, punk in '76-late
70's. Then Elvis Costello/new wave, Stray Cats, Blasters,X, etc. till
early 80's when I got into Replacements/Husker Du/Minutemen/REM....until
the late 80's that I realized that i hated angst rock entirely and wanted
more rock 'n' roll! Since then its been the music we discuss here in
banana-truffle(for rock 'n' roll). But i've always been deeply into 50's
and 60's stuff(to the point of it becoming 70% of my purchases).
But without fail, every band I've ever liked has always been
able to write a song! And it never hurts if they can actually sing the
song as well. For some reason, Crypt and tim warren(and the same macho
mindset) seem to believe that the ability to write songs and sing them
fairly well is a weakness. Why else would every modern Crypt release be
anti-melody, anti-songs, anti-vocals, anti-production?(With a few
exceptions-I like Billy Childish and Devil Dogs) It goes against
everything I believe makes music great and uplifting. But these are just
my opinions.
One last point: why would I ever listen to some lo-fi band
"trying" to sound wild and crazy by distorting blues/rockabilly/or R&B?
Compared to the real original WILD stuff, it all sounds tame and limp. Why
would I listen to 68 Comeback or Country Teasers or DM Bob and The
Deficits or Jon Spencer when I can just listen to any Sun Blues or any
wild and crazy R&B or real genuine honky tonk country or hillbilly or
rockabilly or garage or surf? And if you haven't heard the original stuff
I am talking about, then don't even comment on anything I've said until
you have! I only have a limited amount of time to listen, so why waste any
time?
Pete
Mr B
pe...@aol.com wrote:
> One last point: why would I ever listen to some lo-fi band
> "trying" to sound wild and crazy by distorting blues/rockabilly/or R&B?
> Compared to the real original WILD stuff, it all sounds tame and limp. Why
> would I listen to 68 Comeback or Country Teasers or DM Bob and The
> Deficits or Jon Spencer when I can just listen to any Sun Blues or any
> wild and crazy R&B or real genuine honky tonk country or hillbilly or
> rockabilly or garage or surf?
Pete...
I understand what you're trying to say, but I believe you're going a bit too far.
Saying that there's no reason to listen to "some lo-fi band "trying" to sound
wild & crazy," etc. because the original material is wild enough makes it sound
like you're saying there's no reason for new bands to even make records. Now,
knowing you personally, I already know that you buy tons of records by current
groups doing stuff you love. However, I think few - if any - sound *exactly*
like the original material we know and love. In fact, I, personally, wouldn't
want them to... Well, actually, I like some of them doing material like this...
Hmm... guess that makes me realize what I'm really getting at. All these sounds
have a place. I love the varied sounds of the original garage stuff of the
mid-60s. But I also love what people have done with it in the past 15-20 years.
Honestly, I think it's incredibly difficult for a modern band to get the same
exact feel as some band from 1966... the environment is too different. Too much
has happened since and is happening now to have this stuff come out the same.
But I still love those original sounds. AND I enjoy the the variation of today's
scene, too.
Pete, though, struck another chord with me... he said that, besides the fact that
virtually all the bands he loves could write a song, he especially enjoyed it
when they could actually *sing* them.
Last night, I found myself on the phone with Bobby Belfiore, who, with Tony
Matura, formed the nucleus of the garage-folk act The Optic Nerve in NYC from '84
to '89 (and, prior to that, Bobby sang for The Purple Onion in DC.) We got to
talking and he mentioned how important it was to him to be in a band that cared
about a vocal sound. Now, while I love many bands that can't sing worth a damn,
I especially love ones that can... (e.g. Fortune & Maltese.)
Blair
McKinley Richard
pe...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Why would I listen to 68 Comeback or Country Teasers or DM Bob and The
> Deficits or Jon Spencer when I can just listen to any Sun Blues or any
> wild and crazy R&B or real genuine honky tonk country or hillbilly or
> rockabilly or garage or surf?
'68 Comeback and Spencer are some of the best bands this country could
boast of in recent years (well, not Spencer any more, but). '68 managed
to combine the great elements of rockabilly, blues and, most
importantly, punk! So few bands have been able to capture that important
element in the mix.
Why only listen to old stuff? Because you get stagnant and boring,
listening to the same old bands over and over again. Why not try finding
some new bands for a change? You're just like some of the punks I know
who only listen to the Germs and Black Flag and have no interest in
hearing new bands.
-McKinley
lgev...@aol.com
HEY KIDS...ANOTHER POST!!!!
68 Comeback SUCK in ways that have yet to be invented. It's almost as if
they traveled across time into the future where sucking has been elevated
to a fine art form, its results displayed in galleries and museums.
I said it before and I'll say it again (and this goes out as an AMEN to
PeteP who asked the musical question why listen to some of this new
garbage when the folks who did it first and RIGHT are available to be
heard) sounding like shit on purpose is an amazing waste of time.
LG
Elbert Chang
In article <19961124054...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
lgev...@aol.com wrote:
Well that sort of begs the question, were the "folks who did it first and
RIGHT" REALLY the first people to do it, and you can go on arguing FOREVER
about that. I don't think good rock n' roll requires a specific place,
time, length of servitude, etc. I'm not a huge fan of '68 Comeback either
(actually I haven't heard much of them), but just cos you don't like em I
don't think should mean ANYBODY modern sucks.
Oh by the way, by the style of your post, I almost thought you were Tim
Warren. Which is pretty ironic considering the content.
Elbert
john lowe
In article <19961121145...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
hayhu...@aol.com wrote:
> I gotta go with Pete and Larry on the Crypt new stuff, not my bag. But my
> tastes not withstanding, I have this to ask all those the would defend Tim
> & Crypt the ... well crypt, "Do you like the new Crypt stuff because of
> the music or do you like because its on Crypt and has that special Tim
> Warren Rock 'n' Roll seal of approval?"
>
i like what i like.
i don't know anything about tim warren.
i would have no reason to suck up to him anyway. if anything, he should be
thankful to me because i'm the one buying the records.
i don't like everything on crypt, or estrus, or even rip-off. so i just
don't buy it. what a concept.
and i'll take the new oblivians album over just about anything that's come
out this year. that's rock 'n' fucking roll!
john <personally, i always look for the shane white seal of approval hahahaha>
--
john lowe, sissy boy at heart
hip...@mail.utexas.edu
"Lesley Gore is more of a punk than these kids with their leather jackets and spiked hair" -- Joe King
McKinley Richard
lgev...@aol.com wrote:
> 68 Comeback SUCK in ways that have yet to be invented. It's almost as if
> they traveled across time into the future where sucking has been elevated
> to a fine art form, its results displayed in galleries and museums.
> I said it before and I'll say it again (and this goes out as an AMEN to
> PeteP who asked the musical question why listen to some of this new
> garbage when the folks who did it first and RIGHT are available to be
> heard) sounding like shit on purpose is an amazing waste of time.
> LG
Okay, this brings up three things:
1: I don't agree with you at all about '68 Comeback. I thought they were
one of the few bands going that had good influences and used them to
make something new.
2: If you don't like '68 Comeback, can you name a good band that's going
today? One of the great things about rock and roll is the LIVE aspect.
Chances are pretty good that I'm never gonna see the Johnny Burnette
Rock and Roll Trio, Gene Vincent or Eddie Cochran, since they're all
DEAD, so I wanna see some new kids tearing it up!
3: Your post was one of the more well-written things I've read here in a
long time. I laughed so hard, I thought it was brilliant. If you don't
already write for a fanzine, you have to write for mine. It'd be a crime
to let talent like that go to waste.
-McKinley
pe...@aol.com
In article <hipster-2411...@slip-84-7.ots.utexas.edu>,
hip...@mail.utexas.edu (john lowe) writes:
>and i'll take the new oblivians album over just about anything that's
come
>out this year. that's rock 'n' fucking roll!
John, I know that our tastes differ a lot, but...... I haven't yet heard
the new oblivians album. But based on your strong recommendation, I will
buy it and give it a listen.
Pete
cyclo...@aol.com
>and i'll take the new oblivians album over just about anything that's
come
>out this year. that's rock 'n' fucking roll!
While I hate to revive a thread 3 days gone, I'd just like to add the
Oblivians single "Strong Come On" released in concert with the new LP is
so good it's embarressing that I haven't bought more of their stuff. Aside
from the great A-side, they do a killer Makers cover.
Also, ironic regarding previous comments in this thread, Crypt released an
exotica comp themselves, called, I think, "Jungle Exotica." Jes wondering
if anyone had heard and had comments w/r/t its quality.
Abrams Tanks,
ben
platt...@aol.com
>Also, ironic regarding previous comments in this thread, Crypt released
an
>exotica comp themselves, called, I think, "Jungle Exotica." Jes wondering
>if anyone had heard and had comments w/r/t its quality.
It may have been called "Exotica" in the title but, as with all Crypt
reissues, it's chock full of wild and totally demented R&R/R&B and is
definitely recommended to any and all readers of B-Truffle.
Sheldon Scott
cyclo...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In article <hipster-2411...@slip-84-7.ots.utexas.edu>,
> hip...@mail.utexas.edu (john lowe) writes:
>
> exotica comp themselves, called, I think, "Jungle Exotica." Jes wondering
> if anyone had heard and had comments w/r/t its quality.
>
> ben
I don't know what the fuck "Exotica" is, my impression is that it's lift
music that it's ok to like.
As regards the Jungle Exotica comp, I haven't actually heard it but half
the tracks are on another comp "Louie's Limbo Lounge", which I have
heard. In general these are slow, sleazy r'n'r instrumentals, some of
which have an "Exotic" or "Foreign" theme. Needless to say, all good
stuff, but whether this is what exotica is supposed to be, I don't know.
Shell.
kopp...@aol.com
>>But my
tastes not withstanding, I have this to ask all those the would defend Tim
& Crypt the ... well crypt, "Do you like the new Crypt stuff because of
the music or do you like because its on Crypt and has that special Tim
Warren Rock 'n' Roll seal of approval?"<<
My turn.
I like it cuz it rocks. I like it cuz it gets under your skin. I like it
cuz it causes debates/arguments like this one. I like it cuz it pisses
people off because it's not what they *think* garage rock'n'roll should
sound like. (By the way, to those who want to build up ANY sort of
boundaries around music, a hearty FUCK YOU, JACK!). It's dirty, raw,
bluesy, noisy, and keeps the neighbors and co-workers from wanting to come
over to watch Freinds or Melrose Place with ya. Most of all, I like it
cuz it's fun, mixes well with my beer, and makes me jump up and down.
Yep, just like the old stuff. And, by the way, I can say the same thing
for lots of other labels out there.
And if you can't hear the melody or the roots-based rawness of this sorta
rock'n'roll it surely ain't Tim Warren's fault.
Think of Crypt as good some grease to lubricate those tight assholes of
yours. Loosen 'em up real good. Yeah.
Ok, dad?
kopper
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pe...@aol.com
In article <19961130023...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
cyclo...@aol.com writes:
>Also, ironic regarding previous comments in this thread, Crypt released
an
>exotica comp themselves, called, I think, "Jungle Exotica." Jes wondering
>if anyone had heard and had comments w/r/t its quality.
It's great(Jungle Exotica). It's been out for many years, as has Las Vegas
Grind series on Crypt which is excellent.