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On 11 Sep 1998, Persi wrote:

> In article <6t9t7c$1g9$1...@ligarius.ultra.net>, JB_S...@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >Hi there,
> >
> >I wonder if I am the only one who noticed how inconsistent the work of
> >Richard James is becoming.
> >I used to enjoy a lot his first albums and EP's. I was very disappointed by
> >"The Richard D. James album."
>
> Guess it's all a matter of opinion. I found the RDJ album to be the finest
> thing he's ever done and 'Bucephalous Bouncing Ball' off of 'Come To Daddy' to
> be the finest single track he's ever done.
>
> >This year I was quite surprised by "Come to Daddy," which has to be his best
> >track in a looong time. Quite consistent, well produced, and with a lot of
> >thought into it. The video ("Come to Viddy") totally rocks, but most songs
> >on the "Come to Daddy" EP are plainly difficult to listen to, and I would
> >also say it feels just like pure technical experimentation for the sake of
> >it. No meaning, no goal; nothing.
> >
> >Any opinions on this?
>
> Well, being that I've found both of the examples you mentioned to be among his
> finest work to date, I'd have to say 'different strokes for different folks'.
>
> Looking forward to 'Window Licker'.

is this a new album?
if so when and where will it be relaeased?

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> >Any opinions on this?
>
> Well, being that I've found both of the examples you mentioned to be among his
> finest work to date, I'd have to say 'different strokes for different folks'.
>

ive always wondered about richraeds inconsistancy too...he has achingly
beautiful work, and then he has his ear bleeding noise tracks, then he has
just musical ideas/doodlings that arent even full fledged songs


he probaly knows hes at the point where he could record himself taking a
piss and everyone would buy it and say it was brilliant

fred


Persi

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In article <6t9t7c$1g9$1...@ligarius.ultra.net>, JB_S...@yahoo.com says...
>
>Hi there,
>
>I wonder if I am the only one who noticed how inconsistent the work of
>Richard James is becoming.
>I used to enjoy a lot his first albums and EP's. I was very disappointed by
>"The Richard D. James album."

Guess it's all a matter of opinion. I found the RDJ album to be the finest
thing he's ever done and 'Bucephalous Bouncing Ball' off of 'Come To Daddy' to
be the finest single track he's ever done.

>This year I was quite surprised by "Come to Daddy," which has to be his best
>track in a looong time. Quite consistent, well produced, and with a lot of
>thought into it. The video ("Come to Viddy") totally rocks, but most songs
>on the "Come to Daddy" EP are plainly difficult to listen to, and I would
>also say it feels just like pure technical experimentation for the sake of
>it. No meaning, no goal; nothing.
>

>Any opinions on this?

Well, being that I've found both of the examples you mentioned to be among his
finest work to date, I'd have to say 'different strokes for different folks'.

Looking forward to 'Window Licker'.

--

Persi

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.98091...@ux9.cso.uiuc.edu>,
la...@students.uiuc.edu says...

>> Looking forward to 'Window Licker'.
>

>is this a new album?
>if so when and where will it be relaeased?

New EP. Don't know the release date.

mukamuk

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>he probaly knows hes at the point where he could record himself taking a
>piss and everyone would buy it and say it was brilliant

He did, it's called "Expert Knob Twiddlers"

;-) OK, that was mean. But seriously, two things about this album: (1) I find
it boring and repetitive. Not hypnotic like SAWII, just bland. (2) Does anyone
else think that Mike & Rich know they can take a piss and sell albums, and that
"knob twiddlers" is just another way of saying "knobshiners" or "wankers"?

OTOH, I think RDJ Album and Come To Daddy are his best since SAWII. So,
different strokes indeed.


D & D

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I think it's just your opinion
I have the Richard D. James album too, but I actually like most
of this REALLY weird album. You just need to listen to it in a different
way. I have SAWII also, and I think the second cd is better than the first.
I have not heard SAWI yet, is it any good?

My opinion is that Richard D. James is one of the most talented,
original and gifted electronic musicians.

Davy

Chris Basford

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crank <la...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote :

>> Looking forward to 'Window Licker'.
>
>is this a new album?

No, it's the new single.

>if so when and where will it be relaeased?

God knows.

Judging by the fact that the video (directed by Chris Cunningham) is in
production, it should be soon.

Chris Basford
E-mail : ch...@g3vkm.demon.co.uk

djp...@bbn.com

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In article <6t9t7c$1g9$1...@ligarius.ultra.net>,

"JB_Soler" <JB_S...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I wonder if I am the only one who noticed how inconsistent the work of
> Richard James is becoming.
> I used to enjoy a lot his first albums and EP's. I was very disappointed by
> "The Richard D. James album."
> As a matter of fact, it still gives me a headache when I listen to it. I
> thought it was a joke. most songs felt like thrown in as rejects... some
> others sounded like someone was applying a defibrillator to Richard's
> testicles while he was programming the beat boxes! I hated it.

>
> This year I was quite surprised by "Come to Daddy," which has to be his best
> track in a looong time. Quite consistent, well produced, and with a lot of
> thought into it. The video ("Come to Viddy") totally rocks, but most songs
> on the "Come to Daddy" EP are plainly difficult to listen to, and I would
> also say it feels just like pure technical experimentation for the sake of
> it. No meaning, no goal; nothing.
>
> Any opinions on this?
>

A lot of AT's recent output has reminded me of stuff put out by Severed Heads
and Chris and Cosey 15 years ago with heavier beats. Frankly, that thrills
me to death.

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D & D wrote in message <01bddd7b$72bdd000$eb6e60c3@default>...

>I think it's just your opinion
>I have the Richard D. James album too, but I actually like most
>of this REALLY weird album. You just need to listen to it in a different
>way. I have SAWII also, and I think the second cd is better than the first.
>I have not heard SAWI yet, is it any good?
>


SAWI is, imho, the 'defining' electronic album. I've never truly enjoyed
any of his other stuff as much. The Richard D James album was entertaining
as a bit of a lark (for me), but after 6-10 listens it never found its way
back into my stereo. Now, I'll be honest, I prefer my music with a bit of,
well, music in it :) and I can't deny that nobody does Aphex Twin like Aphex
Twin. Basically, it all comes down to style and preference. But I still
recommend giving SAWI a listen.

Wow... that was rambling...

- ben (www.rockethouse.com)

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Jyoti Mishra

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djp...@bbn.com wrote:


>A lot of AT's recent output has reminded me of stuff put out by Severed Heads
>and Chris and Cosey 15 years ago with heavier beats. Frankly, that thrills
>me to death.
>deX!

....which is spooky cos when I saw Add N To X live, it just reminded
me of Throbbing Gristle without the sense of malice. But nobody agreed
with me, as bloody usual...

Personally, I can live with both the more Boyd Ricey side of ATs work
as well as the bloopy rhythmania.
love and kisses,
Jyoti

Mr Frosty

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mukamuk a écrit dans le message <6tai1h$djp$2...@news1.sirius.com>...

>>he probaly knows hes at the point where he could record himself taking a
>>piss and everyone would buy it and say it was brilliant
>
>He did, it's called "Expert Knob Twiddlers"


Hmm... I really like this album. It really sounds like ice cream music!
Track 5 is crap, but even in that song there's a 30 seconds part I really
enjoy. T1 is cool, T2 is amusing T3 has wicked beats and a killer chorus, T4
is inspired and "bu bu ba" is simply beautiful. I agree that the production
values are far from being excellent, but I'm really satisfied with this
album. Plus it's got the coolest sleeve I've ever seen.

Roland Jesse

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"D & D" <djwo...@casema.net> writes:

> I have not heard SAWI yet, is it any good?

Well, I have it. Besides "Classics" and his "Polygon Window - Surfing
On Sine Waves" it is in my top 3 of his albums.

Roland

Ant Chapman

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In article <6t9t7c$1g9$1...@ligarius.ultra.net>, JB_Soler
<JB_S...@yahoo.com> writes

>most songs
>on the "Come to Daddy" EP are plainly difficult to listen to

Go and get yourself a Matchbox 20 album, then.

Ant Chapman

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Steven E. Fritz

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my $.02, on 5 star scale:

SAW I *****
SAW II ****
Classics ***
Surfing on Sine Waves ***
I Care Because You Do **
Richard D James **

I've seen other posts with completely opposite opionions, I prefer the
hypnotic sounds rather than the harsh or comical stuff.

Lukas Bergstrom

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Well, if no one else is going to mention I Care Because You Do, I guess
I'll have to....in my opinion, his best album overall, especially tracks
1-4 and 9-12. It's not his most complex work, or his most viscerally
thrilling, but the music on ICBYD just sounds unlike any other music I've
ever heard. It's like symphonic work from another planet. The vibe
ranges from cold mechanical to....well, warm mechanical, and then
completely ethereal (Next Heap With.) RDJ is a great pop record, and
SAWI defines IDM for me, but ICBYD, I think, comes closest to
demonstrating the true potential of electronic music.

Lukas

james l. bloke

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>> (2) Does anyone
>>else think that Mike & Rich know they can take a piss and sell albums, and
>that
>>"knob twiddlers" is just another way of saying "knobshiners" or "wankers"?
>
>
>Ha! Most likely. You could describesome of their work as electronic musical
>masturbation.

It's a new style, "wankcore" (or is that wankstep?...)

james l bloke

Portis

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"JB_Soler" <JB_S...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi there,

>I wonder if I am the only one who noticed how inconsistent the work of
>Richard James is becoming.
>I used to enjoy a lot his first albums and EP's. I was very disappointed by
>"The Richard D. James album."
>As a matter of fact, it still gives me a headache when I listen to it. I
>thought it was a joke. most songs felt like thrown in as rejects... some
>others sounded like someone was applying a defibrillator to Richard's
>testicles while he was programming the beat boxes! I hated it.

>This year I was quite surprised by "Come to Daddy," which has to be his best
>track in a looong time. Quite consistent, well produced, and with a lot of
>thought into it. The video ("Come to Viddy") totally rocks, but most songs
>on the "Come to Daddy" EP are plainly difficult to listen to, and I would
>also say it feels just like pure technical experimentation for the sake of
>it. No meaning, no goal; nothing.

>Any opinions on this?

I think the reason why i don't like CTD or RDJ album is that i know
that he's capable of producing tracks that i really like. I loved
ICBYD the most, and i also listen to Saw i and ii (esp ii). To see
him go dnb style experiments practically upsets me. He seems
non-commital and bored with it now.. and he wants to fuck around. I
want to like his newer stuff as much as The Waxen Pith and Tha, but
that standard is extremely high and for me to expect years of that
from him is unrealistic.

I hope he falls away from his recent leanings by slowing down the
beats, turning off the mic and taking himself seriously again.

Portis

Kurt Pruenner

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mukamuk wrote:
>he probaly knows hes at the point where he could record himself taking a
> >piss and everyone would buy it and say it was brilliant
>
> He did, it's called "Expert Knob Twiddlers"

*GULP* Hey, call me insane, but I quite liked that record! :) (That cover - it
tell you man - THAT COVER! Oh yeah, and there was music, after all...)

> ;-) OK, that was mean. But seriously, two things about this album: (1) I
> find it boring and repetitive. Not hypnotic like SAWII, just bland.

Hey, I find it funny... not that it would actually be "intelligent" music...
but, you know, there are times you don't _WANT_ to listen to something
"intelligent"... (Oh well, be free to replace "intelligent" with whatever you
think is more fitting...)

> (2) Does anyone else think that Mike & Rich know they can take a piss and
> sell albums, and that "knob twiddlers" is just another way of saying
> "knobshiners" or "wankers"?

Ummm... wouldn't say so --- but maybe it's just me NOT feeling pissed off...
Maybe I've got an RDJ (_not_ ต-Ziq, at least not until now) overdose... Oh
well, I'd say there's a HELL lot of worse records you could mis-spend your
dough on...

> OTOH, I think RDJ Album and Come To Daddy are his best since SAWII. So,
> different strokes indeed.

I like both, but - honestly - I think "...I Care Because You Do" is best... or
at least it's got the heaviest rotation of them all in my player... but anyhow,
who am I to judge? (What is it you say? I am me? --- Mmmmhm... You could be
right, after all... ^_^)

PS: Did I say I've got some sort of WARP addiction? Who else is plagued by
that? Is there any WARPoholics Anonymous? HEEEEEEEELP!!! ^___^

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A-4030 Linz/AUSTRIA http://students.linznet.at/kurt.pruenner/ (last resort)

np: Plaid - Seph (Not For Threes - Definitely not Aphex, doh...)

Be sure to check out http://www.buzz.scene.org/ if you like electronic music
and find that trackers are not powerful enough to make your own songs...
Trackers were nice <sigh>, but... BUZZ rules!


Harry Heineken

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>>if so when and where will it be relaeased?
>
>God knows.
>
>Judging by the fact that the video (directed by Chris Cunningham) is in
>production, it should be soon.


What was the one on Party Zone (MTV Europe) last week then? (Or was it last
week? A while ago anyway... the one in the hospital for 'disturbed' kids,
heh). It was by Cunningham.

Ant Chapman

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In article <6tc39q$aas$1...@hiisi.inet.fi>, Harry Heineken
<REMOV...@hotmail.com> writes

>What was the one on Party Zone (MTV Europe) last week then? (Or was it last
>week? A while ago anyway... the one in the hospital for 'disturbed' kids,
>heh). It was by Cunningham.

That's the video for "Come On My Selector" by Squarepusher.

FUCKING AMAZING VIDEO... If this is by Cunningham (and it certainly
looks like it is), he has even surpassed Come To Daddy. Someone give
this geezer some dosh to make a film, quick!

"I'm the fucking daddy!"

sfwd prod.

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On 11 Sep 1998 07:04:17 GMT, muk...@snickeringlemming.com (mukamuk)
wrote:

>>he probaly knows hes at the point where he could record himself taking a
>>piss and everyone would buy it and say it was brilliant
>
>He did, it's called "Expert Knob Twiddlers"
>

>;-) OK, that was mean. But seriously, two things about this album: (1) I find

>it boring and repetitive. Not hypnotic like SAWII, just bland. (2) Does anyone

>else think that Mike & Rich know they can take a piss and sell albums, and that
>"knob twiddlers" is just another way of saying "knobshiners" or "wankers"?

I thought it obvious that they were twiddling with their knobs...

Loved the release... And they didn't even go blind

Persi

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In article <6tccih$jn8$1...@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, p65...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca says...

>I hope he falls away from his recent leanings by slowing down the
>beats, turning off the mic and taking himself seriously again.

Kind of like what Squarepusher did with his new record. He completely abandoned
his drill n bass and electronic wankery and has produced one of the most
phenomenal live instrumental records of the year (easily THE best thing I've
heard from any artist this year....it tops my other favorite record from
Electric Company, and by far Jenkinson's pinnacle work). I'm dying to hear what
other Jenkinson fans are gonna say about his new stuff. I'd love to hear Aphex
do some non-electronic stuff.

El Sysadmin Invisible

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Persi wrote:

] I'm dying to hear what other Jenkinson fans are gonna say

] about his new stuff. I'd love to hear Aphex do some non-electronic stuff.

Maybe if you'd MP3 it for us, we could tell you.. :-b

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Chaos Master

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What new Jenkinson stuff, non electronic?, please answer these q's

Chaos Master
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a-loof

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Does anyone know why Ventolin was left off Come To Viddy? I mean it's not
like they didn't have the room...
I love the U.S. CD single for Ventolin. 12 mixes, every one is like a
different song. It's like a whole 'nother album. Brilliant.

"next heap with"-the music of doom, so ominous, a great ending to ICBYD.

Ant Chapman wrote in message ...

Carl Fulp

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What's the release date for the new Squarepusher CD anyhow? I've heard
three other people with advance copies say the same thing you have...

Persi wrote in message <6td07d$h4i$2...@oak.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...


>In article <6tccih$jn8$1...@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, p65...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
says...

>Kind of like what Squarepusher did with his new record. He completely
abandoned
>his drill n bass and electronic wankery and has produced one of the most
>phenomenal live instrumental records of the year (easily THE best thing
I've
>heard from any artist this year....it tops my other favorite record from

>Electric Company, and by far Jenkinson's pinnacle work). I'm dying to hear

Fishster

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"Come to Daddy" is wicked, the video is mad, but I have to agree the rest
of the album is total bollox!

Bring back "Analogue Bubblebath"!!!!

JB_Soler <JB_S...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
<6t9t7c$1g9$1...@ligarius.ultra.net>...


> Hi there,
>
> I wonder if I am the only one who noticed how inconsistent the work of
> Richard James is becoming.
> I used to enjoy a lot his first albums and EP's. I was very disappointed
by
> "The Richard D. James album."
> As a matter of fact, it still gives me a headache when I listen to it. I
> thought it was a joke. most songs felt like thrown in as rejects... some
> others sounded like someone was applying a defibrillator to Richard's
> testicles while he was programming the beat boxes! I hated it.
>
> This year I was quite surprised by "Come to Daddy," which has to be his
best
> track in a looong time. Quite consistent, well produced, and with a lot
of
> thought into it. The video ("Come to Viddy") totally rocks, but most
songs
> on the "Come to Daddy" EP are plainly difficult to listen to, and I would
> also say it feels just like pure technical experimentation for the sake
of
> it. No meaning, no goal; nothing.
>
> Any opinions on this?
>

> JS
> _______________
> J. B. Soler, Alternative Music Guru
> Boston, Mass-USA
> JB_S...@yahoo.com
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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> you look into works of art to see your soul."
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>
>
>

Persi

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In article <6teoeo$mqa$1...@tron.sci.fi>, w@w.w says...

>saw2 *****
>i care because you do ****+
>surfing on sine waves ****-
>richard d james ****-
>classics **-

SAW II is great, but it's nothing that hasn't already been done 20+ years ago.
SAWI is a much better piece of work, IMO.

Stuff I don't particulary care for is the GAK EP, AB4, some of the stuff on 'I
Care' and alot of the Polygon Window stuff. Classics is great as is the RDJ
album, both HAB ep's and the Come To Daddy EP. Oh yeah, the Ventolin 12 track
US remix EP is incredible. Like someone else pointed out, it's like an entire
new album.

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Tricky - Christiansands EP
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In article <6tai1h$djp$2...@news1.sirius.com>,

mukamuk <muk...@snickeringlemming.com> wrote:
>>he probaly knows hes at the point where he could record himself taking a
>>piss and everyone would buy it and say it was brilliant
>
>He did, it's called "Expert Knob Twiddlers"
>
>;-) OK, that was mean. But seriously, two things about this album: (1) I find
>it boring and repetitive. Not hypnotic like SAWII, just bland. (2) Does anyone
>else think that Mike & Rich know they can take a piss and sell albums, and that
>"knob twiddlers" is just another way of saying "knobshiners" or "wankers"?

Bucephalus bouncing ball from the Come to daddy EP is BY FAR one of the
best tracks i've heard from him In a while.

As far as I'm concerned, though, the whole series of Ventolin and remixes
took the piss... Not to mention that Paradinas kicks James *seriously* in
the ass right now.

Mr Frosty

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>
>SAW II is great, but it's nothing that hasn't already been done 20+ years
ago.
>SAWI is a much better piece of work, IMO.
>
After you've listened to the two first tracks of SAW1 (which are
incredible), all you're left with is fairly nice and repetitous music that
sounds *dated* today. I don't think it is that revolutionnary in the first
place. I still like it, and it is a good dance record, but it's not aging
that well. SAWII is much more personal and will never sound dated to my
ears.

Persi

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In article <10662-35...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net>, FRED...@webtv.net
says...
>
>I have not become a fan of Aphex Twin for the following reasons:
>
>1. he does not collaborate with vocalists.
>2. he does not write "real" songs.
>3. he snubs better artists than himself.
> (i.e. Bjork)
>4. he has an ego bigger than the Grand Canyon.
>5. he has not expanded electronic to include acoustic.
>6. his titles are insulting and contemptuous.
>7. he is not Harold Budd or Hector Zazou.

Those are some of the stupidist reasons for not liking an artist I have ever
heard.

Oh wait a minute, you're posting from WebTV. I guess there is a valid reason
for your stupidity.

Paul Stuykens

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A man who never changes, is most likely a BORING man !!!


>Any opinions on this?
>


Robert Mashlan

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cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi) wrote:

>In article <10662-35...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net>, FRED...@webtv.net
>says...
>>
>>I have not become a fan of Aphex Twin for the following reasons:
>>
>>1. he does not collaborate with vocalists.
>>2. he does not write "real" songs.
>>3. he snubs better artists than himself.
>> (i.e. Bjork)
>>4. he has an ego bigger than the Grand Canyon.
>>5. he has not expanded electronic to include acoustic.
>>6. his titles are insulting and contemptuous.
>>7. he is not Harold Budd or Hector Zazou.

Huh?

>Those are some of the stupidist reasons for not liking an artist I have ever
>heard.

Same here. Didn't Aphex Twin do a remix for Bjork, or did I dream
that up?

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Matthew Thomas Wright

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In alt.music.techno Robert Mashlan <rmas...@r2m.com> wrote:

> Same here. Didn't Aphex Twin do a remix for Bjork, or did I dream
> that up?

i think she'd asked him too.. dunno if anything came from it tho..
i remember reading somthing like "because we could never get a hold of
each other, he told me to sing into his answer phone because he likes the
sound of it" or some shit like that...

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JB_Soler wrote in message <6t9t7c$1g9$1...@ligarius.ultra.net>...

>I wonder if I am the only one who noticed how inconsistent the work of
>Richard James is becoming.
>I used to enjoy a lot his first albums and EP's. I was very disappointed by
>"The Richard D. James album."
>As a matter of fact, it still gives me a headache when I listen to it.

personally, i think a lot of richard's earlier works are pretty annoying....
the rdj album, although its not the best, is still an excellent album.
i think that 'classics' is pretty bad... i cant remember the last time i
listened to it.
the track 'ventolin' on i care because you do makes me want consume my head
to make the squeal stop.
but, even after all of that, i really cant think of any one of rdj's albums
i dont like....

>This year I was quite surprised by "Come to Daddy," which has to be his
best

>track in a looong time. The video ("Come to Viddy") totally rocks, but most
songs
>on the "Come to Daddy" EP are plainly difficult to listen to...

i feel exactly the opposite. i think every song on the 'come to daddy' ep is
excellent, except for 'come to daddy', pappy mix.
all the other songs on the ep are among my favorite songs rdj has
released... expecially film and iz-us.
the song 'come to daddy' is completely out of character for rdj... with the
quality death-metal guitar distortion, and, although simplistic, LYRICS.
but i guess youre allowed to have your own opinion ;)


>_______________
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that seattle grunge scene, not richard d. james.
>Boston, Mass-USA // did you go see ben
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Just heard RDJ for the first time it's fucking brilliant!

Paul Dormer
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mukamuk

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>>>he probaly knows hes at the point where he could record himself taking a
>>>piss and everyone would buy it and say it was brilliant
>>
>>He did, it's called "Expert Knob Twiddlers"
>
>Hmm... I really like this album. It really sounds like ice cream music!
>Track 5 is crap, but even in that song there's a 30 seconds part I really
>enjoy. T1 is cool, T2 is amusing T3 has wicked beats and a killer chorus, T4
>is inspired and "bu bu ba" is simply beautiful. I agree that the production
>values are far from being excellent, but I'm really satisfied with this
>album. Plus it's got the coolest sleeve I've ever seen.

I have to agree, EKT has just about the coolest package design of all time. I
don't always enjoy listening to it, but I always love looking at it!


Persi

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In article
<AC72F0A2E76FC556.AFAD2C3C...@library-proxy.airnews.net>,
rmas...@r2m.com says...

>Same here. Didn't Aphex Twin do a remix for Bjork, or did I dream
>that up?

You dreampt that up.

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Mark Stevens

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On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 03:09:07 +0100, Ant Chapman
<a...@achap.no.spam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>That's the video for "Come On My Selector" by Squarepusher.

>FUCKING AMAZING VIDEO... If this is by Cunningham (and it certainly
>looks like it is), he has even surpassed Come To Daddy. Someone give
>this geezer some dosh to make a film, quick!

Apparently, he's interested in directing the adaptation of William
Gibson's 'Neuromancer' and fully intends for Richard James to provide
the soundtrack.


/\/)ark

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Mark Stevens

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On Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:44:02 -0600, "Ben" <b...@rockethouse.NOSPAM.com>
wrote:

>SAWI is, imho, the 'defining' electronic album.

Amen. Out of all of RDJ's work, it's 'SAW1' and 'Surfing on Sine
Waves' I enjoy the most -- mainly because they sounded so fresh and
unique at the time. Sure, later RDJ albums have some great stuff on
them, but by then everyone and his dog was writing similar material.

I remember the first time I heard 'SAW1'. It was in Hatfield's
Galleria shopping mall, close to Christmas. It was the first time I'd
been in the Galleria -- and although I'd heard stories about it not
being an entirely successful venture, I wasn't prepared for just how
empty and desolate the whole place was. So there I was, walking around
this expansive mall, full of empty shops and hardly another glimpse of
a human being, and all I could hear was this gorgeous electronic music
(they used to wire up Our Price's sound system to the Galleria's
speakers), which I later learnt was the opening track, 'Xtal'. I found
my way into Our Price, saw the Aphex logo sitting on their "now
playing" plinth and snapped the bugger up there and then.

As much as I still enjoy RDJ's music, there are numerous acts who are
currently producing far superior music: Autechre/Gescom, Boards of
Canada/Hellinterface, Mira Calix, Funkstörung, Bola, Mike Fakesch,
Andre Estermann, Aemic, Electric Sheep, Farmer's Manual, etc.


/\/)ark

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Vincent Bergeron

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I like the song "Icct hedral" of Aphex Twin. Quiet something!!!

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JB_Soler wrote in message <6t9t7c$1g9$1...@ligarius.ultra.net>...

>Hi there,


>
>I wonder if I am the only one who noticed how inconsistent the work of
>Richard James is becoming.
>I used to enjoy a lot his first albums and EP's. I was very disappointed by
>"The Richard D. James album."

>As a matter of fact, it still gives me a headache when I listen to it. I
>thought it was a joke. most songs felt like thrown in as rejects... some
>others sounded like someone was applying a defibrillator to Richard's
>testicles while he was programming the beat boxes! I hated it.
>

>This year I was quite surprised by "Come to Daddy," which has to be his
best

>track in a looong time. Quite consistent, well produced, and with a lot of

>thought into it. The video ("Come to Viddy") totally rocks, but most songs


>on the "Come to Daddy" EP are plainly difficult to listen to, and I would
>also say it feels just like pure technical experimentation for the sake of
>it. No meaning, no goal; nothing.
>
>Any opinions on this?
>
>JS

>_______________
>J. B. Soler, Alternative Music Guru

Jyoti Mishra

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ma...@sonance.demon.co.uk (Mark Stevens) wrote:

<stuff about Richard Cunningham>


>Apparently, he's interested in directing the adaptation of William
>Gibson's 'Neuromancer' and fully intends for Richard James to provide
>the soundtrack.
>/\/)ark

Hmmm... let's hope he makes a better job of it than Gibson himself did
with the awful Johnny Mnemonic...
love and kisses,
Jyoti

dav...@hotmail.com

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Article in Jockey Slut Aug/Sept about that video and Squarepusher in a
straitjacket etc. Yes it is Chris Cunningham.

Dave

In article <trJM9CAD...@achap.demon.co.uk>,


Ant Chapman <a...@achap.no.spam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <6tc39q$aas$1...@hiisi.inet.fi>, Harry Heineken
> <REMOV...@hotmail.com> writes
> >What was the one on Party Zone (MTV Europe) last week then? (Or was it last
> >week? A while ago anyway... the one in the hospital for 'disturbed' kids,
> >heh). It was by Cunningham.
>

> That's the video for "Come On My Selector" by Squarepusher.
>
> FUCKING AMAZING VIDEO... If this is by Cunningham (and it certainly
> looks like it is), he has even surpassed Come To Daddy. Someone give
> this geezer some dosh to make a film, quick!
>

> "I'm the fucking daddy!"
>
> Ant Chapman
>
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> "yeah, but there's only 2" - Boston Kickout
>
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In article <6tftq1$3ki$2...@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,

cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi) wrote:
> In article <10662-35...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net>, FRED...@webtv.net
> says...
> >
> >I have not become a fan of Aphex Twin for the following reasons:
> >
> >1. he does not collaborate with vocalists.
> >2. he does not write "real" songs.
> >3. he snubs better artists than himself.
> > (i.e. Bjork)
> >4. he has an ego bigger than the Grand Canyon.
> >5. he has not expanded electronic to include acoustic.
> >6. his titles are insulting and contemptuous.
> >7. he is not Harold Budd or Hector Zazou.
>
> Those are some of the stupidist reasons for not liking an artist I have ever
> heard.
>
> Oh wait a minute, you're posting from WebTV. I guess there is a valid reason
> for your stupidity.
>
> --

> Reason to like Aphex Twin:
1. Come to Daddy was the best horror movie ever created.
2. He drives a fucking TANK!!!!!
>


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crank

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On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 vi...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> In article <6tftq1$3ki$2...@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
> cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi) wrote:
> > In article <10662-35...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net>, FRED...@webtv.net
> > says...
> > >
> > >I have not become a fan of Aphex Twin for the following reasons:
> > >
> > >1. he does not collaborate with vocalists.
> > >2. he does not write "real" songs.
> > >3. he snubs better artists than himself.
> > > (i.e. Bjork)
> > >4. he has an ego bigger than the Grand Canyon.
> > >5. he has not expanded electronic to include acoustic.
> > >6. his titles are insulting and contemptuous.
> > >7. he is not Harold Budd or Hector Zazou.


these seem like reasons why i like aphex twin

> >
> > Those are some of the stupidist reasons for not liking an artist I have ever
> > heard.
> >
> > Oh wait a minute, you're posting from WebTV. I guess there is a valid reason
> > for your stupidity.
> >
> > --
>
> > Reason to like Aphex Twin:
> 1. Come to Daddy was the best horror movie ever created.
> 2. He drives a fucking TANK!!!!!
> >
>
>
> --
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>
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On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:09:46 GMT, vi...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>> >I have not become a fan of Aphex Twin for the following reasons:
>> >
>> >1. he does not collaborate with vocalists.
>> >2. he does not write "real" songs.
>> >3. he snubs better artists than himself.
>> > (i.e. Bjork)
>> >4. he has an ego bigger than the Grand Canyon.
>> >5. he has not expanded electronic to include acoustic.
>> >6. his titles are insulting and contemptuous.
>> >7. he is not Harold Budd or Hector Zazou.
>>

>> Those are some of the stupidist reasons for not liking an artist I have ever
>> heard.

agreed...those reasons are rather silly.

enjoying alot of aphex twin's work does require a sense of humor to
enjoy the times when he's not creating 'serious' pieces (or serious
track titles, etc.), but rather fooling around...so if you wanna
become an aphex fan, lighten up.

-brad

Johnny Sunshine

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In article <6tl0b9$q3$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, vi...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> In article <6tftq1$3ki$2...@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
> cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi) wrote:
> > In article <10662-35...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net>,
FRED...@webtv.net
> > says...
> > >

> > >I have not become a fan of Aphex Twin for the following reasons:
> > >
> > >1. he does not collaborate with vocalists.
> > >2. he does not write "real" songs.
> > >3. he snubs better artists than himself.
> > > (i.e. Bjork)
> > >4. he has an ego bigger than the Grand Canyon.
> > >5. he has not expanded electronic to include acoustic.
> > >6. his titles are insulting and contemptuous.
> > >7. he is not Harold Budd or Hector Zazou.
> >
> > Those are some of the stupidist reasons for not liking an artist I have ever
> > heard.
> >

> > Oh wait a minute, you're posting from WebTV. I guess there is a valid reason
> > for your stupidity.
> >
> > --
>
> > Reason to like Aphex Twin:
> 1. Come to Daddy was the best horror movie ever created.
> 2. He drives a fucking TANK!!!!!

3. He lives in a fucking BANK!!!!!

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Mark Stevens

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On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 03:09:07 +0100, Ant Chapman
<a...@achap.no.spam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>FUCKING AMAZING VIDEO... If this is by Cunningham (and it certainly
>looks like it is), he has even surpassed Come To Daddy.

Anyone know Cunningham's full videography? All I'm aware of is:

Autechre Second Bad Vilbel
Aphex Twin Come To Daddy
Madonna Frozen
Squarepusher Come On My Selector
Leftfield Africa (Shox)

He also designed the robots that will be appearing in Stanley
Kubrick's 'AI'.


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Jim Smith

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You need to go have a fucking WANK!!!!!

Get over it.

Jim.

Jim Smith

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@ Brad wrote:
> enjoying alot of aphex twin's work does require a sense of humor to
> enjoy the times when he's not creating 'serious' pieces (or serious
> track titles, etc.), but rather fooling around...so if you wanna
> become an aphex fan, lighten up.
>
> -brad

And if you wanna lighten up, eat sheeps balls. They are very healthy and
have hardly any cholesterol or fat. Or maybe you could try human balls.
They are apparently even nicer. Although they aren't common anywhere but
either in Japan, or if you mug one of the Wu-Tang-Wankers just before
lunch or dinner. They are a delicacy in Japan you know.


Jim.

djp...@bbn.com

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In article <360020...@iinet.net.au>,

jrs...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> @ Brad wrote:
> > enjoying alot of aphex twin's work does require a sense of humor to
> > enjoy the times when he's not creating 'serious' pieces (or serious
> > track titles, etc.), but rather fooling around...so if you wanna
> > become an aphex fan, lighten up.
> >
> > -brad
>
> And if you wanna lighten up, eat sheeps balls. They are very healthy and
> have hardly any cholesterol or fat.

Only with a nice pesto sauce and a side of arugula.

deX!

hank_williams'_ass

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djp...@bbn.com squawked wrote:

>In article <360020...@iinet.net.au>,
> jrs...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> @ Brad wrote:
>> > enjoying alot of aphex twin's work does require a sense of humor to
>> > enjoy the times when he's not creating 'serious' pieces (or serious
>> > track titles, etc.), but rather fooling around...so if you wanna
>> > become an aphex fan, lighten up.
>> >
>> > -brad
>>
>> And if you wanna lighten up, eat sheeps balls. They are very healthy and
>> have hardly any cholesterol or fat.
>
>Only with a nice pesto sauce and a side of arugula.

ARRUGALA!


hiway61man

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Persi wrote:
>
> In article <36003d5f....@enews.newsguy.com>, HankWilliams'Ass says...
> Mmmmm.....sheep balls with ARUGALA and lots of seasoning salt!!! Anyone ever
> had bulls balls? Any good?

>
> --
> In My CD Changer/Stereo:
>
> DJ Spooky - Songs Of A Dead Dreamer
> ELP - Trilogy

GodDAMN, Persi! Trilogy is my favorite ELP album!

Persi

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Coldcut - Atomic Moog/Boot The System EP






Takamura

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¥ In article <36003d5f....@enews.newsguy.com>, HankWilliams'Ass says...


¥ >
¥ >djp...@bbn.com squawked wrote:
¥ >
¥ >>In article <360020...@iinet.net.au>,
¥ >> jrs...@iinet.net.au wrote:
¥ >>> @ Brad wrote:
¥ >>> > enjoying alot of aphex twin's work does require a sense of humor to
¥ >>> > enjoy the times when he's not creating 'serious' pieces (or serious
¥ >>> > track titles, etc.), but rather fooling around...so if you wanna
¥ >>> > become an aphex fan, lighten up.
¥ >>> >
¥ >>> > -brad
¥ >>>
¥ >>> And if you wanna lighten up, eat sheeps balls. They are very healthy and
¥ >>> have hardly any cholesterol or fat.
¥ >>
¥ >>Only with a nice pesto sauce and a side of arugula.
¥ >
¥ >ARRUGALA!
¥
¥ Mmmmm.....sheep balls with ARUGALA and lots of seasoning salt!!! Anyone ever
¥ had bulls balls? Any good?

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>The masterless ronin cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi)
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>
>¥ In article <36003d5f....@enews.newsguy.com>, HankWilliams'Ass says...
>¥ >

>¥ >djp...@bbn.com wrote:
>¥ >
>¥ >>In article <360020...@iinet.net.au>,
>¥ >> jrs...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>¥ >>> @ Brad wrote:
>¥ >>> > enjoying alot of aphex twin's work does require a sense of humor to
>¥ >>> > enjoy the times when he's not creating 'serious' pieces (or serious
>¥ >>> > track titles, etc.), but rather fooling around...so if you wanna
>¥ >>> > become an aphex fan, lighten up.
>¥ >>> >
>¥ >>> > -brad
>¥ >>>
>¥ >>> And if you wanna lighten up, eat sheeps balls. They are very healthy and
>¥ >>> have hardly any cholesterol or fat.
>¥ >>
>¥ >>Only with a nice pesto sauce and a side of arugula.
>¥ >
>¥ >ARRUGALA!

>¥ Mmmmm.....sheep balls with ARUGALA and lots of seasoning salt!!! Anyone ever
>¥ had bulls balls? Any good?
>
>Hey kids! Who's up for a little necrophilia??

Maybe we should add alt.gothic to the headers.

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Persi

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In article <361b7f15...@news.alt.net>, ktak...@hagiophage.com says...

>
>The masterless ronin cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi)
>dared to post this statement:
>
>¥ In article <36003d5f....@enews.newsguy.com>, HankWilliams'Ass says...
>¥ >
>¥ >djp...@bbn.com squawked wrote:
>¥ >
>¥ >>In article <360020...@iinet.net.au>,
>¥ >> jrs...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>¥ >>> @ Brad wrote:
>¥ >>> > enjoying alot of aphex twin's work does require a sense of humor to
>¥ >>> > enjoy the times when he's not creating 'serious' pieces (or serious
>¥ >>> > track titles, etc.), but rather fooling around...so if you wanna
>¥ >>> > become an aphex fan, lighten up.
>¥ >>> >
>¥ >>> > -brad
>¥ >>>
>¥ >>> And if you wanna lighten up, eat sheeps balls. They are very healthy and
>¥ >>> have hardly any cholesterol or fat.
>¥ >>
>¥ >>Only with a nice pesto sauce and a side of arugula.
>¥ >
>¥ >ARRUGALA!

>¥ Mmmmm.....sheep balls with ARUGALA and lots of seasoning salt!!! Anyone ever
>¥ had bulls balls? Any good?
>
>Hey kids! Who's up for a little necrophilia??

Hey! Sign me up. Who's gonna provide the stiffs?

Persi

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In article <360088...@ao1.com>, hiway...@ao1.com says...

>> DJ Spooky - Songs Of A Dead Dreamer
>> ELP - Trilogy
>

>GodDAMN, Persi! Trilogy is my favorite ELP album!

Yeah....it's pretty great. Brain Salad Surgery is my favorite, though.

Jim Smith

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Persi wrote:
>
> In article <36003d5f....@enews.newsguy.com>, HankWilliams'Ass says...
> >
> >djp...@bbn.com squawked wrote:
> >
> >>In article <360020...@iinet.net.au>,
> >> jrs...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> >>> @ Brad wrote:
> >>> > enjoying alot of aphex twin's work does require a sense of humor to
> >>> > enjoy the times when he's not creating 'serious' pieces (or serious
> >>> > track titles, etc.), but rather fooling around...so if you wanna
> >>> > become an aphex fan, lighten up.
> >>> >
> >>> > -brad
> >>>
> >>> And if you wanna lighten up, eat sheeps balls. They are very healthy and
> >>> have hardly any cholesterol or fat.
> >>
> >>Only with a nice pesto sauce and a side of arugula.
> >
> >ARRUGALA!
>
> Mmmmm.....sheep balls with ARUGALA and lots of seasoning salt!!! Anyone ever
> had bulls balls? Any good?

No I haven't, but I want to try some. As well as some human balls.
Anyone here had human balls? (Apart from our Japanese friend Mr
Takamura.)

Jim

Jim Smith

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Takamura wrote:
> Ą Mmmmm.....sheep balls with ARUGALA and lots of seasoning salt!!! Anyone ever
> Ą had bulls balls? Any good?

>
> Hey kids! Who's up for a little necrophilia??

Now that's a good idea! All I have to do try try human balls is rob my
local grave. I just hope long dead human testicles are as succulent as
fresh ones.

Jim.

Jim Smith

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Hank, Williams', Ass wrote:
> >Only with a nice pesto sauce and a side of arugula.
>
> ARRUGALA!

What the hell is arrugala anyway? Are you guys sure that it doesn't
detract from the awesome taste of sheeps balls?


Jim.

Takamura

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The masterless ronin Jim Smith <jrs...@iinet.net.au>

dared to post this statement:

Ą Persi wrote:
Ą >
Ą > In article <36003d5f....@enews.newsguy.com>, HankWilliams'Ass says...
Ą > >
Ą > >djp...@bbn.com squawked wrote:
Ą > >
Ą > >>In article <360020...@iinet.net.au>,
Ą > >> jrs...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Ą > >>> @ Brad wrote:
Ą > >>> > enjoying alot of aphex twin's work does require a sense of humor to
Ą > >>> > enjoy the times when he's not creating 'serious' pieces (or serious
Ą > >>> > track titles, etc.), but rather fooling around...so if you wanna
Ą > >>> > become an aphex fan, lighten up.
Ą > >>> >
Ą > >>> > -brad
Ą > >>>
Ą > >>> And if you wanna lighten up, eat sheeps balls. They are very healthy and
Ą > >>> have hardly any cholesterol or fat.
Ą > >>
Ą > >>Only with a nice pesto sauce and a side of arugula.
Ą > >
Ą > >ARRUGALA!
Ą >

Ą > Mmmmm.....sheep balls with ARUGALA and lots of seasoning salt!!! Anyone ever
Ą > had bulls balls? Any good?

Ą
Ą No I haven't, but I want to try some. As well as some human balls.
Ą Anyone here had human balls? (Apart from our Japanese friend Mr
Ą Takamura.)

Cooking Jim Smith's balls
With soy sauce and Kirin beer
Savoring his screams

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By his computer graphics
Taka sees no birds"

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"As Russians say, if you beat a hare enough,
it can learn to light matches."

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AntiChrist is a ham sandwich."

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Takamura

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The masterless ronin Jim Smith <jrs...@iinet.net.au>
dared to post this statement:

¥ Takamura wrote:
¥ > ¥ Mmmmm.....sheep balls with ARUGALA and lots of seasoning salt!!! Anyone ever
¥ > ¥ had bulls balls? Any good?
¥ >
¥ > Hey kids! Who's up for a little necrophilia??


¥
¥ Now that's a good idea! All I have to do try try human balls is rob my
¥ local grave. I just hope long dead human testicles are as succulent as
¥ fresh ones.

You have a one-track mind.

Dammit Jim! I'm a necrophiliac, not a cannibal!

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VOTM Runner-Up, September

Smeeteristic pointy stick ------------>

"Hopelessly entranced
By his computer graphics
Taka sees no birds"

Chris "Haiku Bomber" Sivewright

"As Russians say, if you beat a hare enough,
it can learn to light matches."

Dimitri Vulis, Ph.D.

"I am currently working on a proof that the
AntiChrist is a ham sandwich."

John A. Limpert

|O \o/ |O o |O o |O o |O o |O

¥\ $ ¥\ /$\ ¥\ /$\ ¥\ /$\ ¥\ /$\ ¥\

Jim Smith

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Takamura wrote:
> Cooking Jim Smith's balls
> With soy sauce and Kirin beer
> Savoring his screams

lol you crack me up man lol!

I wonder if my own balls grow back or not, like those Wu Tang Dickheads
balls do. If so then I want to try it!! lol!


Jim.

Jim Smith

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Takamura wrote:
>
> The masterless ronin Jim Smith <jrs...@iinet.net.au>
> dared to post this statement:
>
> ¥ Takamura wrote:
> ¥ > ¥ Mmmmm.....sheep balls with ARUGALA and lots of seasoning salt!!! Anyone ever
> ¥ > ¥ had bulls balls? Any good?
> ¥ >
> ¥ > Hey kids! Who's up for a little necrophilia??
> ¥
> ¥ Now that's a good idea! All I have to do try try human balls is rob my
> ¥ local grave. I just hope long dead human testicles are as succulent as
> ¥ fresh ones.
>
> You have a one-track mind.
>
> Dammit Jim! I'm a necrophiliac, not a cannibal!


Take the plunge man! You'll love them lol.


jim

jcon...@gw.hamline.edu

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> > > > >I have not become a fan of Aphex Twin for the following reasons:
> > > > >
> > > > >1. he does not collaborate with vocalists.
A matter of preference really.

> > > > >2. he does not write "real" songs.
They are absolutely real songs. A song is something a 2year old could make, he writes real songs. How you define real is not how everyone defines real.

> > > > >3. he snubs better artists than himself.
> > > > > (i.e. Bjork)
Bjork is excellent. With all due respect to Bjork, who cares. Does it really offend you that much? Is she your sister?

> > > > >4. he has an ego bigger than the Grand Canyon.
Who cares. I don't listen to Aphex and think about his ego. I listen to his music.

> > > > >5. he has not expanded electronic to include acoustic.
What? You seem too rigid in your defenitions of what is good and bad.

> > > > >6. his titles are insulting and contemptuous.
Opinion.
> > > > >7. he is not Harold Budd or Hector Zazou.




> > > > Oh wait a minute, you're posting from WebTV. I guess there is a valid reason
> > > > for your stupidity.
Not necessary! All electronic music, music period, should at least have some level of respect from others. These petty arguments are simply unecessary.
thanks.

DJ Mumra

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Persi wrote:
>
> In article <360088...@ao1.com>, hiway...@ao1.com says...
>
> >> DJ Spooky - Songs Of A Dead Dreamer
> >> ELP - Trilogy
> >
> >GodDAMN, Persi! Trilogy is my favorite ELP album!
>
> Yeah....it's pretty great. Brain Salad Surgery is my favorite, though.

Brain Salad Surgery was the first album I ever bought, and it was/is
great. But over the years, I find that Trilogy has the greater staying
power: especially the title track.

jon.dus

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i've realized that all you guys like to do is bitch. I doubt if the aphex twin, let alone any of the other "real" innovators give 2 shits about what we think...that's why they are innovators...he said himself, he doesn't do the music because some snot nosed punk who was into heavy metal yesterday wants to listen, he does it because it's what's inside him, and he doesn't alter it...I don't know, maybe it's just me

vi...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

In article <6tftq1$3ki$2...@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
  cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi) wrote:
> In article <10662-35...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net>, FRED...@webtv.net
> says...
> >

> >I have not become a fan of Aphex Twin for the following reasons:
> >
> >1. he does not collaborate with vocalists.

> >2. he does not write "real" songs.

> >3. he snubs better artists than himself.
> >     (i.e. Bjork)

> >4. he has an ego bigger than the Grand                   Canyon.

> >5. he has not expanded electronic to include           acoustic.

> >6. his titles are insulting and contemptuous.

> >7. he is not Harold Budd or Hector Zazou.
>

> Those are some of the stupidist reasons for not liking an artist I have ever
> heard.
>

> Oh wait a minute, you're posting from WebTV. I guess there is a valid reason
> for your stupidity.
>

> --

> Reason to like Aphex Twin:
1. Come to Daddy was the best horror movie ever created.
2. He drives a fucking TANK!!!!!
>

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Hoshi

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does any one know of any upcoming raves in the West Palm Beach (Florida) area? lemme know. i'd love to go.

Pipi

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jon.dus wrote in message <36013357...@suffolk.lib.ny.us>...

>i've realized that all you guys like to do is bitch. I doubt if the
aphex twin, let alone any of the other "real" innovators give 2 shits about
>what we think...
You'd be surprised. Check my comments on Diamanda Galas a while back, of
whom I a big fan. The entire DG mailing list roundly chastised me. They
didn't realize that I was still subscribed. Much name-calling ensued. One of
these people actually sent a copy of my message posted to AMA to her (I
assume this, since he decided to report back to me on how she felt about my
comments and I doubt she actually reads newsgroups or cares).

>that's why they are innovators...he said himself, he doesn't do the
music because some snot nosed punk who was into heavy metal >yesterday wants
to listen, he does it because it's what's inside him, and he doesn't alter
it...I don't know, maybe it's just me
vi...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

In article <6tftq1$3ki$2...@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi) wrote:
> In article <10662-35...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net>,
FRED...@webtv.net
> says...
> >
> >I have not become a fan of Aphex Twin for the following reasons:
> >
> >1. he does not collaborate with vocalists.

Who cares?

> >2. he does not write "real" songs.

What's a "real" song?

> >3. he snubs better artists than himself.
> > (i.e. Bjork)

So he's an asshole. I can still listen to his music.

> >4. he has an ego bigger than the Grand Canyon.

Many "artists" do. For me, it's a non-issue when considering the
value of the product. Granted, I really don't think he's a genius or
anything; much of it sounds like a slightly updated Kraftwerk, but I like it
anyway.

> >5. he has not expanded electronic to include acoustic.

I don't see why it should, really.

> >6. his titles are insulting and contemptuous.
> >7. he is not Harold Budd or Hector Zazou.
>
> Those are some of the stupidist reasons for not liking an artist I
have ever
> heard.
>
> Oh wait a minute, you're posting from WebTV. I guess there is a
valid reason
> for your stupidity.
>
> --
> Reason to like Aphex Twin:
1. Come to Daddy was the best horror movie ever created.
2. He drives a fucking TANK!!!!!
>

Really? That's nice.

Pipi :-)


Melissa Polosak

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Hoshi,FLRA...@prodigy.net,UUCP writes:
does any one know of any upcoming raves in the West Palm Beach (Florida)
area? lemme know. i'd love to go.
if u wanna go to a good rave u gotta coem to TORONTO. The rave scene here is
one of THE best. Seriously. Last week i met some guys from Buffalo that
come down here EVERY weekend to come party with the Toronto ravers. Come try
it out sometime

Mel

Eric Wortman

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yeah, Canada has always been the country of choice for Americans aged 19-20.

abog...@hotmail.com

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What is wrong with inconsistency? I don't understand how you can say that
Aphex Twin is turning into shite. As long as I have heard him, he has just
been doing his own thing. I think he is great. I actually thought that The
Richard D James Album kicked ass, and I find it more listener friendly than
some earlier stuff, not more technically complex as you said...

Also...this is Richard D James we are talking about. If he is **becoming**
inconsistent, is that not a good thing? Or should he turn into shite like
everyone else by staying the same. A lot of my friends complain that they
don't like "Come to Daddy" very much, and they are *older* fans, but I thought
it was very cool.

All I can say is...I listened to most of the Aphex Twin catalogue last month
while I was tripping. It played in my head for a week thereafter. I vaguely
remember jumping around the room and claiming that Richard D. James is god.

So maybe I'm biased...
>
> I wonder if I am the only one who noticed how inconsistent the work of
> Richard James is becoming.
> I used to enjoy a lot his first albums and EP's. I was very disappointed by
> "The Richard D. James album."
> As a matter of fact, it still gives me a headache when I listen to it. I
> thought it was a joke. most songs felt like thrown in as rejects... some
> others sounded like someone was applying a defibrillator to Richard's
> testicles while he was programming the beat boxes! I hated it.
>
> This year I was quite surprised by "Come to Daddy," which has to be his best
> track in a looong time. Quite consistent, well produced, and with a lot of
> thought into it. The video ("Come to Viddy") totally rocks, but most songs
> on the "Come to Daddy" EP are plainly difficult to listen to, and I would
> also say it feels just like pure technical experimentation for the sake of
> it. No meaning, no goal; nothing.
>
> Any opinions on this?
>
> JS
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