SLINT
Paul Chapman
I have _Spiderland_ and am interested to know what they have recorded
(if anything) since then... Any information would be much appreciated.
Muchos Gracias
Nathaniel Parks
: I have _Spiderland_ and am interested to know what they have recorded
: (if anything) since then... Any information would be much appreciated.
: Muchos Gracias
slint are no longer. they have one other album which is called tweez.
tweez is their first recording and generally considered to be not as good as
spiderland. members of slint are now in The Palace Brothers, but i caution
you that The Palace Brothers sound nothing like slint, so don't go out and
buy their records if you think that you're gonna get another slint album.
i might be mistaken, but i think former members of slint also play in a band
called King Kong. the same warning holds for these guys as it did for the
Palace Brothers. both of these bands are on Drag City Records.
i might advise you to pick stuff from Bastro and Seam, both of which have
ties to slint.
K. Lena Bennett
>I have _Spiderland_ and am interested to know what they have recorded
>(if anything) since then... Any information would be much appreciated.
They have an earlier album called Tweez which is harder and not so
"dreamy," but still very original and creative. Since then they are no
longer Slint; I believe some members arein the Palace Brothers. And of
course drummer Britt Walford gained some fame from being a member of the
Breeders at one time.
"You see, I'm perfectly aware of where our love stands
but the plain fact is: you owe me 8 grand."
K. Lena Bennett
>: I have _Spiderland_ and am interested to know what they have recorded
>: (if anything) since then... Any information would be much appreciated.
>i might advise you to pick stuff from Bastro and Seam, both of which have
>ties to slint.
What are the ties to slint? I've heard people say that they sound
similar.... Anything more concrete? Personnel?
I picked up the Seam album a couple weeks back, and I like it, but it's
basically a lot more conventional in song structure (pop/rock type
structure, not Slint's free-form, almost jazzy, compositional style)
altho it does bear similarities in the guitar work and the much-bandied
"dynamics." A fine album, basically. Very listenable. Sometimes I am
reminded of the pixies in their poppier phases (I think it's track #7 I'm
thinking of).
What is Bastro like?
Michael T. Graham
Children. He's also played in Champaign-Urbana Illinois bands like Steve
Pride and His Blood Kin, and Driver Has No Cash. Right now i think he
think he still plays with Haardvark.
Nathaniel Parks
: npa...@bu.edu (Nathaniel Parks) writes:
: What is Bastro like?
: Lena k...@u.washington.edu
oh, boy. you see, when i mentioned the fact that slint bastro and seam were
all connected, i didn't actually have specifics in mind...it's more of just
an association that i've drawn over the past couple of years, esp. through
talking to a girl who used to live in Chapel Hill, but if you INSIST on
knowing, then here goes...
To understand how these bands are all connected to each other, you have to
start first with the band Squirrel Bait from Louisville, Kentucky. Most of the
other bands i will mention, in fact, except for a few, are also from Louis-
ville.
Squirrel Bait consisted of (at one time, or another):
*Peter Sercy
*Ben Daughtrey
*Dave Grubbs =Slint, Bastro
*Clark Johnson
*Brian McMahan
*Britt Walford
As you might already recognize, two of these guys went on to performing in
Slint. Slint consisted of:
*Brian McMahan
*Britt Walford =King Kong, Palace Brothers, Tortoise
*David Pajo
*Ethan Buckler
Some of the other guys who DIDN'T help form Slint, helped form a band named
Bastro. Bastro consisted of (at one time, or another):
*Dave Grubbs
*Clark Johnson =Bitch Magnet, Seam, (Grubbs side
*John McEntire project, whos name escapes me)
*Ken "Bundy" Brown
*Reg Schrader (played horns on Bastro's 1st tour)
The exact membership of Bitch Magnet, i'm not sure of (if someone knows...),
but for sure, Soo Young Park, lead singer and guitarist of Bitch Magnet went
on to form Seam, originally with Lexi Mitchell and Mac McCaughan (of Super-
chunk). John McEntire played drums for Seam, when Mac's schedule with Super-
chunk wouldn't allow him to play. Bundy has been playing 'extra' parts on Seam
albums for years, and Reg Schrader plays guitar with Seam now.
so, Seam has consisted of (at some time, or another):
*Soo Young Park
*Lexi Mitchell
*John McEntire
*Mac McCaughan
*Ken "Bundy" Brown
*Reg Schrader
*Craig White
*Bob ??
Furthermore, members of Seam and the Palace Brothers (former Slint) got to-
gether for a short term project called Tortoise, on a 7" with the a-side called
"Lonesome Tonight".
Lastly, and most distantly related, Dave Grubbs of Squirrel Bait and Bastro
has done work with Codeine (arranging piano, etc.). Codeine and Seam have had
close connections for years (Codeine even covered a Seam song , "New Years
Eve").
So there it is. I'll be the first to admit that some of those connections are
a bit distant; noone from slint ever played in seam, if that's what you were
looking for, but i think that you can see now why i might draw such con-
nections as i did.
And to answer your other question, Bastro is excellent.
rose
You might want to pick up a "Small Fry Sessions" by a band called DIS -
they were very inspired by SLINT when making this record. It's recorded
by Steve Albini, also. Also, you might like the HUM record "Electra
2000," and anything by Bitch Magnet.
--
rose
Jon Fine, who is in "Vineland" (from NY) was the guitarist in Bitch
Magnet (most of the time) and there were a couple of drummers (a guy
named Orestes was one of them.)
And don't forget, Johnny from Poster Children is in Tortoise, along with
Dough from 11th Dream Day... you should buy those two singles that
they've put out; they're amazing.
And Bob Rising is still in Hardvark, and they have really gotten quite
good - I just saw them last weekend and they were amazing - a touch of
the J. Lizard influence - (just enough!)
I personally think that all this stuff is great, but I love those Bitch
Magnet records. They had a huge influence on the Champaign scene.
--
Jeff Economy
currently playing with Mayo Thompson in a reconstituted version of The Red
Crayola. They've played a few shows and have recorded an LP for Drag City.
Anyone out there seen one of those shows and care to report?
--J
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K. Lena Bennett
Thanks,
Lena
Seth Cohen
>
> Furthermore, members of Seam and the Palace Brothers (former Slint) got to-
> gether for a short term project called Tortoise, on a 7" with the a-side called
> "Lonesome Tonight".
>
> Lastly, and most distantly related, Dave Grubbs of Squirrel Bait and Bastro
> has done work with Codeine (arranging piano, etc.). Codeine and Seam have had
> close connections for years (Codeine even covered a Seam song , "New Years
> Eve").
>
>
No Palace Bros. members in Tortoise.
Tortoise is: *Bundy K. Brown (of Seam [occasionally] and Gastr del Sol [see
below].)
*John McEntire (same credentials as Bundy)
*Johnny Machine (formerly of Poster Children and Precious Wax
Drippings)
*Doug McComb (Eleventh Dream Day)
*Brad Wood (formerly of Shrimpboat, currently owner/producer
Idful recording studio, Chicago [recording home of Seam, Liz
Phair, Red Red Meat, Tar, etc.].)
David Grubbs' current project is called Gastr del Sol. They have a record
out on Teen Beat called "The Serpentine Similar." I recommend it to all
Slint fans, especially those who think Slint is too pop :) Gastr is pretty
challenging guitar-based experimenting-type stuff. They have a new record
due out soon on Drag City. It'll be called "Crookt, Crackt, or Fly."
Knowledge is power.
-Seth
James Black
>Furthermore, members of Seam and the Palace Brothers (former Slint)
>got together for a short term project called Tortoise, on a 7" with
>the a-side called "Lonesome Tonight".
One addendum to an excellent post (two, actually). David Grubbs' side
project is called Gastr Del Sol (see: "Serpentine Similar", on
TeenBeat, if I'm not mistaken), and Tortoise just finished recording
at Idful Studios, I believe. Exactly what they just recorded is as
good a guess as mine; my friend Ella has a copy - I'll give it a
listen asap.
--
"I'm a steelworker; I kill what I eat"
jbl...@hep.uchicago.edu <James F. Black>
Nathaniel Parks
: >
: > Furthermore, members of Seam and the Palace Brothers (former Slint) got to-
: Knowledge is power.
: -Seth
Seth:
appreciate the correction. i must admit that i don't have any Tortoise 7"s,
but have only read and heard about them numerous times. keep us posted about
"Crookt, Crackt, or Fly" if you should happen to hear anything.
thanks.
"never underestimate the power of soup."
Anne Abellera
>
>slint are no longer. they have one other album which is called tweez.
I don't know about this, but I heard a rumor that Slint was getting back
together... Has anyone heard anything about this?
aaaaaaaaanne
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Seth Cohen
>
>
> Seth:
>
> appreciate the correction. i must admit that i don't have any Tortoise 7"s,
> but have only read and heard about them numerous times. keep us posted about
> "Crookt, Crackt, or Fly" if you should happen to hear anything.
> thanks.
>
> npa...@acs.bu.edu
>
> "never underestimate the power of soup."
Nat (can I call you Nat?):
I've heard two tracks from "Crookt..." (The title, incidentally is from a
puritan elegy--David's getting his Phd in English Lit at the U of C). The
first, called "The Wrong Soundings" (if I'm not mistaken) was a very
long--perhaps 10-12 mins.--piece that included long sections of "found"
sound recordings (some, as I recall, recorded at a sound sculpture
performance.) This piece is very esoteric and bordering on
self-indulgent--oh, what the hell, I love Grubbs and Gastr, but this piece
is downright pretentious. The second piece, on the other hand, was short,
tight, and emphatic. It showcased Grubbs' talent for combining noise and
hooks; anarchy and rigid structure. It is called "Is That A Rifle When It
Rains." Evidently, a reference to a homeless man threatening Grubbs with
an umbrella.
The lineup on "Crookt..." is: Grubbs, Bundy Brown, John McEntire, and Jim
O'Rourke (who ia a very accomplished and widely recorded guitar player on
the "new" music scene--he dabbles in modern classical, lower east side jazz
rock, experimental noise-making, etc.) O'Rourke's influence on the tracks
I've heard from "Crookt..." is apparent.
hilh...@rcl.wau.nl
>
>I have _Spiderland_ and am interested to know what they have recorded
>(if anything) since then... Any information would be much appreciated.
Nothing after that fuckin'brilliant record!
Before: Tweez ( more noise )
After as 'Palace Brothers' a strange country-folk album.
Bye R'Cop.
>
>Muchos Gracias
>
L. Pit
>I picked up the Seam album a couple weeks back, and I like it, but it's
>basically a lot more conventional in song structure (pop/rock type
>structure, not Slint's free-form, almost jazzy, compositional style)
Tip: take a pencil and paper, and scribble down: Bark Psychosis - "Hex".
That album will be released the 15th of februari. From what I've heard from
them, they might well be the new Seam getting closer to Slint: that is it is
almost jazzy en free-form...
>What is Bastro like?
Bastro is more in the vein of Steve Albini type-a-music, loud, rash en raw.
(If I'm not mistaken, the guitarist who played on Tweez was a member of that
band, Bastro)
Greets,
Loz
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Mason E. Boor
Oh yea, and another thing..the reason they broke up was because
they were getting too popular and it scared them, something
like that.
hmm.
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Sometimes words just aren't enough...
meb6 Mason Jar dig it
Mason E. Boor
All these Slint fans...cool...if ya'll wanna hear an album that
is really cool that you all woul probably like is Bitch Magnet's
"Ben Hur," which came out about a year before Spiderland...
If you listen to Tweez, you may think, wow, they've been hangin'
out with Albini too much, but you listen to Spiderland and think,
wow, they've been listening to Bitch Magnet....you all probably
know that Bitch Magnet was the father band of Seam...
I'm not knockin' Slint..they are amazing....but you should hear
this "Ben Hur" album..it kind of puts things in perspective...
Amal Gupta
On the CD of Slint's _Spiderland_ it's mentioned that the recording
sounds better on vinyl, or should be listened to on vinyl.
Any of you who have _Spiderland_ have opinions on how the CD
recording sounds?
Potential _Spiderland_ purchaser,
-KG
Nathaniel Parks
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: >
: >
: > Seth:
Seth:
sure, you can call me nat...it doesn't matter to me.
I appreciate the extra information. I'm curious as to how you were able to
get a hold of two tracks from "Crookt...", as it is not released yet (right?)?
One more question,...would you know where i can get my hands on other Bastro
recordings besides "Sing the Troubled Beast"? I know that they have at least on
other full-length album, and, i would assume, at least a few singles. Would
this stuff be on Homestead also? thanks much.
Ed Hall
>
> Potential _Spiderland_ purchaser,
> -KG
Well, I have it on cd ( I do not own a record player) and I can simply say
that it is the best peice of work I have heard since I became aware. Every
time I put it on, it transports me. It should be required listening for
everyone who claims to know a thing about "alternative" music.
-Ed Hall
"Between thought and expression lies a lifetime."
--
Dark Father Amadeus
>>slint are no longer. they have one other album which is called tweez.
> I don't know about this, but I heard a rumor that Slint was getting back
> together... Has anyone heard anything about this?
Yes. There is a rumor floating around here in Louisville that Slint is
back together and that they are currently recording. That is all that there
are right now...rumors. It seems weird that they would reform, and not play
any shows in their hometown, but you never know. There was a rumor of a Slint
show at a local coffee-house about two months ago, but it was not true. I hope
that they are in fact recording, it would be great news...because I was going
to try to convince the members to play a show for RANT For The Literary
Renaissance. It would be a great boon for RANT (being a non-profit
organization). If it ever does happen, I'll make sure to post here with dates
and times.
Jason
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Fuckin'amazing
ROBOCOP
Samuel Joseph Gross
magazine. They asked Steve Albini what his top ten things of
1993 were. One of his answers was "Real Slint (as opposed to
faux Slint)." What does this mean? Is there a new Slint w/o
crucial members? I cannot imagine Ethan Buckler would want to
rejoin (check out an issue of NICE SLACKS from awhile back on
the skinny concerning him/Slint/King Kong). A new Slint sans
any members of the band would be misguided at best. Besides, I
like the Palace Bros (or I guess its just Palace now)...
Joe
robes...@delphi.com
often tell first-time listeners that the urge to slit their wrists while
listening to it should be ignored. But, I also find myself laughing when I
listen to _Spiderland_. I wonder, does anybody else find it funny at all and
do you think I am laughing with Slint or at them?
Clark Murray <robes...@delphi.com>
K. Lena Bennett
>The closest I heard to confirmation of this rumour was in AP
>magazine. They asked Steve Albini what his top ten things of
>1993 were. One of his answers was "Real Slint (as opposed to
>faux Slint)." What does this mean?
I just assumed that what Albini was referring to is the plethora of bands
that sound like they're Slinfluenced.... that he'd rather have the original.
"Frances' bike was called Rory and it had a rough saddle."
L. Pit
> Yes. There is a rumor floating around here in Louisville that Slint is
>back together and that they are currently recording. That is all that there
>are right now...rumors.
No, it ain't rumors. It is a fact. When the Palace Brothers where here in Holland
David Pajo told me personally that Slint had reformed and had already written
one song. That was november last year....
Greets,
Loz
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Edward T. Lee
>
> Potential _Spiderland_ purchaser,
> -KG
The amazement of "SPiderland" is the incredible combination of classical
style dynamics, jazz-like composition, and the emotion of rock. A
magical 40 minutes of music. Buy it on vinyl! It only gets better with
age. During the quiet parts, you get to hear crackling noises as you
play the record more and more. It sounds like rain. Mighty beautiful.
Randy Sheldon Gatley
yes slint are absol;utely brilliant but so are the spin offs, especially
the Palace Brothjers. Do not listen to their music if you have depressive tendencies. pkay only in the dark. do not be afraid. this album will overwhelm youwith it's strong lyrical content and amazing musicianship. oh yeah... it's country.
randy !
KEROSENE
getting back together. I saw them in a basement in Evanston IL a few years back
and they changed the way I listen to music.
If anyone's interested, Slint came from Squirrel Bait. So did Bitch Magnet and
Bastro, two other great bands, through David Grubbs, the guitar hero. And "Ben
Hur" by Bitch Magnet is pretty high up in the stratosphere (though it does
sound vaguely like a big black rip, though not enough to irritate me).
Kero...@AOL.com
jh...@hamp.hampshire.edu
i'm going to radio shack!
slint are pretty cool. like when they break their headphones.