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In article <36c57fe0...@news.alt.net>, Co...@colin.edu says...

Yo La Tengo - all of their albums are great
Neil Young - Everyone Knows This Is Nowhere
"" "" - After The Goldrush
"" "" - Landing On Water

That should be 10

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In My CD Changer/Stereo:

Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
Plastikman - Artifakts (BC)
Autechre - 'Untitled' EP

Film:
Rushmore
There's Something About Mary (Rent this IMMEDIATELY!!!)








Geir Hongro

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Colin wrote:

> I like Yo La...can you tell?
>
> 10.Neil Young, 'Comes a Time'
> 7.Neil Young, 'Rust Never Sleeps'
> 4.Neil Young, 'Ragged Glory'
> 3.Neil Young, 'Tonight's the Night'

Hey! You forgot all the GOOD Neil Young albums! :
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
After The Goldrush
Harvest
Harvest Moon

Particularly the two first were wonderful Powerpop albums, and represent
a style that he should have carried on with for the rest of his career.
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Colin

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I like Yo La...can you tell?

10.Neil Young, 'Comes a Time'

9.Yo La Tengo, 'May I Sing With Me?'
8.Young Marble Giants, 'Colossal Youth'


7.Neil Young, 'Rust Never Sleeps'

6.Yo La Tengo, 'Painful'
5.Yo La Tengo, 'President Yo La Tengo'


4.Neil Young, 'Ragged Glory'
3.Neil Young, 'Tonight's the Night'

2.Yo La Tengo, 'I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One'
1.Yo La Tengo, 'Electr-o-pura'

Gondola Bob

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> Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
> After The Goldrush
> Harvest
> Harvest Moon
>
> Particularly the two first were wonderful Powerpop albums, and represent
> a style that he should have carried on with for the rest of his career.

Neil Young never made anything CLOSE to a "Powerpop" album, you
pigeonholing idiot.

GB

fernando

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In article <79mafb$gs8$7...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi) wrote:

>In article <36c57fe0...@news.alt.net>, Co...@colin.edu says...
>
>Yo La Tengo - all of their albums are great
>Neil Young - Everyone Knows This Is Nowhere
>"" "" - After The Goldrush
>"" "" - Landing On Water
>
>That should be 10

Oh come on... there should be room for

Young Gods - L'eau Rouge, (their last one)
Yello -- One Second, Got to Say Yes
Yes -- Time and a Word

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Co...@colin.edu (Colin) wrote:

> I like Yo La...can you tell?

Well, they're only the best rock band of the 90s.

I would have put -Fakebook- instead of -May I Sing With Me?- or -President Yo
La Tengo- though.

And what, no Young Fresh Fellows??


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Gondola Bob wrote:

"Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" and "After The Goldrush" are both clearly
"Powerpop" even if the term (at least it the use it has today) wasn't invented
yet: Melodic songs with a traditional guitar backing, plus some multi-layered
harmonies mixed in stereo in the background. All very typical Powerpop
elements.
Also note that Young has been a notable influence on Powerpoppers like Matthew
Sweet and Teenage Fanclub

Persi

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In article <36C04A11...@online.no>, geir...@online.no says...

>
>
>
>Gondola Bob wrote:
>
>> In article <36BF3471...@online.no>, geir...@online.no wrote:
>>
>> > Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
>> > After The Goldrush
>> > Harvest
>> > Harvest Moon
>> >
>> > Particularly the two first were wonderful Powerpop albums, and represent
>> > a style that he should have carried on with for the rest of his career.
>>
>> Neil Young never made anything CLOSE to a "Powerpop" album, you
>> pigeonholing idiot.
>
>"Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" and "After The Goldrush" are both clearly
>"Powerpop"

Even more clear evidence that Geir is addicted to crack!

Gondola Bob

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> > Neil Young never made anything CLOSE to a "Powerpop" album, you
> > pigeonholing idiot.
>
> "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" and "After The Goldrush" are both clearly

> "Powerpop" even if the term (at least it the use it has today) wasn't invented
> yet: Melodic songs with a traditional guitar backing, plus some multi-layered
> harmonies mixed in stereo in the background. All very typical Powerpop
> elements.

This is so ludicrously ignorant, it scarcely needs a response. If those
albums are so "clearly Powerpop," um, how come you are the first person in
the history of mankind to say so??

A) Please know that I have NEVER seen "Powerpop" used in this capitalized,
brand-name fashion in which you use it. People mention old "power-pop
bands" now and then, but nobody views it as some major trademarked,
"political" movement in the way you do. No revivalist movement can be
important to the development of music.

B) When you use the term "Powerpop" anywhere NEAR Neil Young, you only show
how stunningly obtuse you are, and how desperately you bend the facts to
fit reality into your psychotic, self-deluded fantasy of musical
Melodyland, where everything is bright, cheery and happyhappyhappy, and
full of trivial singalong little ditties.

> Also note that Young has been a notable influence on Powerpoppers like Matthew
> Sweet and Teenage Fanclub

Yeah, and the Beatles influenced PM Dawn. So I guess PM Dawn must be a
Powerpop band too.

GB

F.B.

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In <36C04A11...@online.no> Geir Hongro <geir...@online.no>
writes:
>
>
>
>Gondola Bob wrote:
>
>> In article <36BF3471...@online.no>, geir...@online.no wrote:
>>
>> > Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
>> > After The Goldrush
>> > Harvest
>> > Harvest Moon
>> >
>> > Particularly the two first were wonderful Powerpop albums, and
represent
>> > a style that he should have carried on with for the rest of his
career.
>>
>> Neil Young never made anything CLOSE to a "Powerpop" album, you
>> pigeonholing idiot.
>
>"Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" and "After The Goldrush" are both
clearly
>"Powerpop" even if the term (at least it the use it has today) wasn't
invented
>yet:

WHAT???

Only Cinamon Girl, off Everybody Knows... could even remotely be
considered "power-pop," and it clearly is not. The bulk of the album
is taken up by the long, twisting, exploratory songs Down by the River
and Cowgirl in the Sand, which have about as much to do with powerpop
as Dodgy has to do with rap. And 'After the Gold Rush' is a
country/folk/rock and roll album that is nowhere close to being
powerpop.
So you are saying that there is actually a linear direction from Neil
Young to T.Rex and Big Star?

My abdomen is hurting; *really* hurting.

Matt P

Geir Hongro

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F.B. wrote:

Country and folk are both elements of the typical powerpop style, as is
rock'n'roll. In addition the album is melodic and there are some
multi-layered harmonies. The only things that differ from Powerpop on
those two albums are lyrical content and sometimes the length of the
songs. And Posies and Jellyfish have also made long songs.

> So you are saying that there is actually a linear direction from Neil
> Young to T.Rex and Big Star?

T.Rex never played Powerpop. Powerpop is an American phenomenon, and apart
from Teenage Fanclub and Records there has never been a British Powerpop
band.

But I hear a lot of similarities between early Neil Young and Big Star,
not to mention between early Neil Young and Raspberries/Badfinger.

Dave F.

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Gondola Bob wrote:
>
> B) When you use the term "Powerpop" anywhere NEAR Neil Young, you only show
> how stunningly obtuse you are, and how desperately you bend the facts to
> fit reality into your psychotic, self-deluded fantasy of musical
> Melodyland, where everything is bright, cheery and happyhappyhappy, and
> full of trivial singalong little ditties.

i listen to Powerpop in my crappy little apartment in the flophouse with
the crackhead living upstairs and the bar room below. everything is
bright and cheery happyhappyhappy.

i think you're being more presumptious than the other fellow, junior.

davef


keyse...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <79r0oh$d...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>,
> So you are saying that there is actually a linear direction from Neil
> Young to T.Rex and Big Star?
>
> My abdomen is hurting; *really* hurting.
>

Wow, mine is too. ya'll seem deadset on running poor Geir into the dirt
everytime he shares an opinion. I agree, Neil was coming from more of a
country/folk/blues angle, but at the same time, parts of his earlier work in
Buffalo Spirngfield probably had an influence on some of the power pop bands
I dig, so ya know, he sort of teeters on the cusp of these two styles I
suppose, especially on his more mellow, folksy albums. He's cranked out a
few real gems. He's cranked out some epic workouts. He just always imbues
them with his dark outsider persona, which is far from the typical power pop
character. But then, look at what Big Star evolved into by the time of their
third album. Chilton had equally distanced himself from the typical power pop
character, while still working within it as a genre. When you compare the
tone of say "Tonight's the Night" and "Third," there's more similarities than
disparities, though a lot of it has to do with the dark tone, the despair in
the stories as opposed to the actual music. So yes, I agree, Neil isn't
power pop, but he does resemble its more sinister, third cousin.

key

keyse...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <36C15E69...@online.no>,
geir...@online.no wrote:

>
>
> F.B. wrote:
>
> > In <36C04A11...@online.no> Geir Hongro <geir...@online.no>
> > writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Gondola Bob wrote:
> >
>
> > So you are saying that there is actually a linear direction from Neil
> > Young to T.Rex and Big Star?
>
> T.Rex never played Powerpop. Powerpop is an American phenomenon, and apart
> from Teenage Fanclub and Records there has never been a British Powerpop
> band.
>

bullshit, you have no idea what you're talking about do you? powerpop is
much father reaching that you'd have us believe. Your first mistake is
judging everything and everyone in such absolutes. Yes and Floyd are psych
or prog right? But aren't "Sweetness" and "Pillow of Wind" still power pop
gems? If you say no, you're fooling yourself. And again Geir, ol' man, why
are you so deadset in seeing things in either terms of black and white or
powerpop and eurobeat every single time you post? I mean, sure, the Beatles
or the Kinks were not power pop, but they're influence is immeasurable. And
there's no way you're going to tell me that songs like "Lady Madonna" or
"Johnny Thunder" are not powerpop just because they were concieved in a
particular time and country. You sir, are a silly twit.

> But I hear a lot of similarities between early Neil Young and Big Star,
> not to mention between early Neil Young and Raspberries/Badfinger.
> --

Yes, that's right...if you read my other post on this matter, I did basically
agree with Geir's opinion on mr. Young and powerpop and that scares me, but
I'm hardly a staunch supporter of his theories.

keyse...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <79mafb$gs8$7...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
cow...@NOSPAN.earthlink.net (Persi) wrote:
> In article <36c57fe0...@news.alt.net>, Co...@colin.edu says...
>
> Yo La Tengo - all of their albums are great
> Neil Young - Everyone Knows This Is Nowhere
> "" "" - After The Goldrush
> "" "" - Landing On Water
>
> That should be 10
>
yes, yo la tengo are tha shit. i'll go with this:
yo la tengo "electropura"
yo la tengo "painful"
yo la tengo "ride the tiger"
yo la tengo "heard the hearts beating as one"
neil young "after the goldrush"
neil young "tonight's the night"
neil young "zuma"
neil young "everyone knows this is nowhere"
yes "fragile"
neil young "rust never sleeps"

key


> --
> In My CD Changer/Stereo:
>
> Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
> Plastikman - Artifakts (BC)
> Autechre - 'Untitled' EP
>
> Film:
> Rushmore
> There's Something About Mary (Rent this IMMEDIATELY!!!)
>
>

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Mark Bartlam

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On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:48:11 GMT, Co...@colin.edu (Colin) wrote:

>I like Yo La...can you tell?

Yo La Tengo - "I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One"
Yo La Tengo - "Electr-o-pura"
Young Gods - "TV Sky"
Young Gods - "L'Eau Rouge"
Young Gods - "Play Kurt Weill"
Yello - "You Gotta Say Yes To Another Excess"
Yello - "Stella"
Neil Young - "Weld"
Neil Young - "Ragged Glory"
Neil Young - "Trans"

--Mark

J. Mcglinchey

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 keyse...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> or prog right? But aren't "Sweetness" and "Pillow of Wind" still
> power pop gems? If you say no, you're fooling yourself. And again

"Sweetness" I could see (though it might be more a powerpop ballad), but
"A Pillow of Winds" doesn't really fit my image of a powerpop
tune...sounds more folkish to me.
BTW, I have a cool CD by a 70s Norwegian band called Ragnarok who have
pretty much an entire, all-instrumental album in the laid back "A Pillow
of Winds" style...ever heard of them, Geir? :)

Joe M.
U of Washington
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~joemcg


Gondola Bob

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> Country and folk are both elements of the typical powerpop style, as is
> rock'n'roll. In addition the album is melodic and there are some
> multi-layered harmonies.

With ridiculously vague criteria like these, no *wonder* Geir is able to
shoehorn any music he likes into the conceptual "Powerpop" bin.

fos...@earthlink.net wrote:

> i listen to Powerpop in my crappy little apartment in the flophouse with
> the crackhead living upstairs and the bar room below. everything is
> bright and cheery happyhappyhappy.
>
> i think you're being more presumptious than the other fellow, junior.

Your name isn't familiar to me, which leads me to conclude that you haven't
read this newsgroup for long. So be advised: I'm not being presumptious --
only quoting Geir's own words. He DOES think all music should be "happy,
happy, happy." That's a direct quote.

GB

John J Troutman

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Colin wrote:

> I like Yo La...can you tell?

Cool. I haven't actually heard much Yo La Tengo, which I realize may
make any 'y' list I come up with suspect <bg>, but here goes:

Yes - Close to the Edge
Neil Young - Everybody Knows This is Nowhere
Neil Young - After the Goldrush
Yes - The Yes Album
Neil Young - Tonight's The Night
Young Gods - T.V. Sky
Yellow Magic Orchestra - Xoo Multiples

Jeff Troutman
NP: Medeski, Martin & Wood - It's a Jungle In Here


Geir Hongro

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J. Mcglinchey wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 keyse...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > or prog right? But aren't "Sweetness" and "Pillow of Wind" still
> > power pop gems? If you say no, you're fooling yourself. And again
>
> "Sweetness" I could see (though it might be more a powerpop ballad), but
> "A Pillow of Winds" doesn't really fit my image of a powerpop
> tune...sounds more folkish to me.
> BTW, I have a cool CD by a 70s Norwegian band called Ragnarok who have
> pretty much an entire, all-instrumental album in the laid back "A Pillow
> of Winds" style...ever heard of them, Geir? :)

I believe I have heard their name, not any more. Popul Ace (originally Popul
Vuh, but changed their name because of that German krautrock band) and
Junipher Greene used to be the most famous Norwegian 70s prog rock bands.

Geir Hongro

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keyse...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> But then, look at what Big Star evolved into by the time of their
> third album. Chilton had equally distanced himself from the typical power pop
> character, while still working within it as a genre.

I'd say he had somewhat distanced himself from the Powerpop genre already on
"Radio City". It may have been melodic, yet it was more Rock'n'roll than
Powerpop.

F.B.

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In <79sr8h$71t$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com> keyse...@my-dejanews.com
writes:
>
>In article <79r0oh$d...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>,

> ltri...@ix.netcom.com(F.B.) wrote:
>> In <36C04A11...@online.no> Geir Hongro <geir...@online.no>
>> writes:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Gondola Bob wrote:
>> >
>> So you are saying that there is actually a linear direction from
Neil
>> Young to T.Rex and Big Star?
>>
>> My abdomen is hurting; *really* hurting.
>>
>
>Wow, mine is too. ya'll seem deadset on running poor Geir into the
dirt
>everytime he shares an opinion. I agree, Neil was coming from more of
a
>country/folk/blues angle, but at the same time, parts of his earlier
work in
>Buffalo Spirngfield probably had an influence on some of the power pop
bands
>I dig, so ya know, he sort of teeters on the cusp of these two styles
I
>suppose, especially on his more mellow, folksy albums. He's
cranked out a
>few real gems. He's cranked out some epic workouts. He just
always imbues
>them with his dark outsider persona, which is far from the typical
power pop
>character. But then, look at what Big Star evolved into by the time

of their
>third album. Chilton had equally distanced himself from the typical
power pop
>character, while still working within it as a genre. When you compare
the
>tone of say "Tonight's the Night" and "Third," there's more
similarities than
>disparities, though a lot of it has to do with the dark tone, the
despair in
>the stories as opposed to the actual music. So yes, I agree, Neil
isn't
>power pop, but he does resemble its more sinister, third cousin.
>
>key

You mean grunge?

Matt P

F.B.

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In <36C15E69...@online.no> Geir Hongro <geir...@online.no>
writes:


>> >> Neil Young never made anything CLOSE to a "Powerpop" album, you
>> >> pigeonholing idiot.
>> >
>> >"Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" and "After The Goldrush" are both
>> clearly
>> >"Powerpop" even if the term (at least it the use it has today)
wasn't
>> invented
>> >yet:
>>
>> WHAT???
>>
>> Only Cinamon Girl, off Everybody Knows... could even remotely be
>> considered "power-pop," and it clearly is not. The bulk of the
album
>> is taken up by the long, twisting, exploratory songs Down by the
River
>> and Cowgirl in the Sand, which have about as much to do with
powerpop
>> as Dodgy has to do with rap. And 'After the Gold Rush' is a
>> country/folk/rock and roll album that is nowhere close to being
>> powerpop.
>

>Country and folk are both elements of the typical powerpop style, as
is
>rock'n'roll. In addition the album is melodic and there are some

>multi-layered harmonies. The only things that differ from Powerpop on
>those two albums are lyrical content and sometimes the length of the
>songs. And Posies and Jellyfish have also made long songs.
>

>> So you are saying that there is actually a linear direction from
Neil
>> Young to T.Rex and Big Star?
>

>T.Rex never played Powerpop. Powerpop is an American phenomenon, and
apart

Why, then, is another name for power pop ANGLO-POP???? Why were Big
Star trying to sound BRITISH???

>from Teenage Fanclub and Records there has never been a British
Powerpop
>band.

Well, there's T. Rex for starters.


>
>But I hear a lot of similarities between early Neil Young and Big
Star,

I certainly here none.

Matt P

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