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William Corrigan

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May 5, 1994, 4:07:51 AM5/5/94
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Niklas Pivic (pi...@skom.se) wrote:
: I heard he killed himself after the group's first gig. How much truth is
: there in it?

uh...no.

Ian Kevin Curtis died in his apartment May 17/18th 1980, some time after
watching the film 'Stroczek' by Werner Herzog on television (not on
the VCR as is sometimes rumored). He was buried May 23rd (which,
interestingly, is Morrissey's birthday.)
His death was by hanging, some say in a closet.
He did NOT stand on a block of ice or hang himself with a meathook (????)
His suicide occurred shortly before Joy Division began their tour of
America supporting the Buzzcocks. He was NOT shooting up heroin (nor did
he use heroin), and it has never been reliably reported that he was
intoxicated in any way. It was unlikely as we was taking any sort of drug
as he was taking extreme amounts of medication for his epilepsy, which was
worsening. 'Officially,' he suffered from 'clinical depression,' which
should be obvious to nearly anyone.
I have no idea if he spoke to Genesis Orridge the day of the 17th but
it sounds pretty irrelevant anyway.

whatever.


Count Von Sexbat

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May 6, 1994, 4:40:03 AM5/6/94
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In article <2qci3r$e...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
The.D...@dartmouth.edu "The Darkman" writes:

>I hate to beat this subject over the head, but I've heard a rumor many
>times that Ian filmed his suicide and that copies of this tape are
>floating around with different people... This always seemed incredibly
>morbid to me, but is there any truth to this rumor? I'd like to kill
>it here and now if at all possible...

Is it true that he had a piece of fruit in his mouth when he died? If so
it might suggest some sort of pattern!

The sort of person who manages to find and transport a *huge* block of ice,
rig a noose, check camera angles and lighting, and then climb up onto the
block of ice and attach the rope is:

a) a performance artist
b) in a Peter Greenaway film
c) more disturbed than they are depressed.

Look, he was suffering from depression, he arrived at the lowest point and
he hung himself. There was no marching band, no flying saucers, Elvis did
not point the camcorder and thank him kindly at the end of the performance.
He was not dressed as a friendly lion, he wasn't singing Love Will Tear Us
Apart, the drop did not make his ears explode. There was no mysterious
puddle on the floor.

He simply died.

This entire thread seems incredibly pointless to me. I'd like to kill it
here and now if at all possible...

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Sexbat
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STRYK9

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May 6, 1994, 5:52:43 AM5/6/94
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>Apart, the drop did not make his ears explode. There was no mysterious
>puddle on the floor.

actually, due to the sudden nerve damage, most guys tend to ejaculate when they are hanged.


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May 6, 1994, 8:35:35 AM5/6/94
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Count Von Sexbat (sex...@batt.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <2qci3r$e...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
I fully agree with this Sexbat (mr.? mrs.? just kidding ;) ) person -
ian curtis killed himself for personal reasons, so let it stay personal.
If you like JD cool, so do I, but just stay by your sterio and listen to
'Closer' or something, don't sit here and perpetuate this kind of "ian
curtis died for you" kind of shit. He was just someone who wrote some
good music, then killed himself. period.
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William Bexton

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May 6, 1994, 12:34:09 PM5/6/94
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>
>most guys tend to ejaculate when they are hanged.
...

yeah...unless you're Billy Budd...
'course, even he'd still have to wait for godot... :)


(sorry, had to...)
nibbles,
wesley

Bill Ruffner

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May 6, 1994, 1:20:47 PM5/6/94
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BTW, Ian HANGED himself... not hung..
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The Darkman

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May 6, 1994, 12:46:51 AM5/6/94
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In article <CpBL9...@amiserv.chi.il.us>
wil...@amiserv.xnet.com (William Corrigan) writes:

> Ian Kevin Curtis died in his apartment May 17/18th 1980, some time after
> watching the film 'Stroczek' by Werner Herzog on television (not on
> the VCR as is sometimes rumored). He was buried May 23rd (which,
> interestingly, is Morrissey's birthday.)
> His death was by hanging, some say in a closet.
> He did NOT stand on a block of ice or hang himself with a meathook (????)
> His suicide occurred shortly before Joy Division began their tour of
> America supporting the Buzzcocks. He was NOT shooting up heroin (nor did
> he use heroin), and it has never been reliably reported that he was
> intoxicated in any way. It was unlikely as we was taking any sort of drug
> as he was taking extreme amounts of medication for his epilepsy, which was
> worsening. 'Officially,' he suffered from 'clinical depression,' which
> should be obvious to nearly anyone.

I hate to beat this subject over the head, but I've heard a rumor many


times that Ian filmed his suicide and that copies of this tape are
floating around with different people... This always seemed incredibly
morbid to me, but is there any truth to this rumor? I'd like to kill
it here and now if at all possible...

Peace,

The Darkman (Michael...@dartmouth.edu)
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The Purple Sage

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May 9, 1994, 1:23:14 AM5/9/94
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: the VCR as is sometimes rumored). He was buried May 23rd (which,
: interestingly, is Morrissey's birthday.)

And also the date of Hagbard Celine's suicide (the german hacker). Take a
look in Illuminatus, or talk to your friendly neighborhood conspiracy nut
about the significance of 5/23 (or look back to Stupid Numerology Tricks).

Purp

Robert D Dawson

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May 9, 1994, 2:08:24 AM5/9/94
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In article <2qkhc2$8...@pnet1.pnet.com> pu...@pnet1.pnet.com (The Purple Sage) writes:
>
>And also the date of Hagbard Celine's suicide (the german hacker). Take a
>look in Illuminatus, or talk to your friendly neighborhood conspiracy nut
>about the significance of 5/23 (or look back to Stupid Numerology Tricks).
>


"nut?" That could get you killed in some circles ;) Many a people
believe that stuff. After all, the reason Hitler was killing all of the
jews was cause they knew the Templar's secret to control the world. But you
didn't hear it from me.


robert.tempted

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Micromine

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May 9, 1994, 2:40:09 AM5/9/94
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The Darkman (The.D...@dartmouth.edu) wrote:
: I hate to beat this subject over the head, but I've heard a rumor many

: times that Ian filmed his suicide and that copies of this tape are
: floating around with different people... This always seemed incredibly
: morbid to me, but is there any truth to this rumor? I'd like to kill
: it here and now if at all possible...

Naw, can't be true, otherwise it would be posted as an AVI file on
alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless !!!

Simon.

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May 9, 1994, 9:27:22 PM5/9/94
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In article <2qkk0o$6...@mozz.unh.edu>, r...@christa.unh.edu (Robert D Dawson) writes:
>In article <2qkhc2$8...@pnet1.pnet.com> pu...@pnet1.pnet.com (The Purple Sage) writes:
>>
>>And also the date of Hagbard Celine's suicide (the german hacker). Take a
>>look in Illuminatus, or talk to your friendly neighborhood conspiracy nut
>>about the significance of 5/23 (or look back to Stupid Numerology Tricks).
>>
>
>
>"nut?" That could get you killed in some circles ;) Many a people
>believe that stuff. After all, the reason Hitler was killing all of the
>jews was cause they knew the Templar's secret to control the world. But you
>didn't hear it from me.

no, we heard it from Umberto Eco. Now can everyone stop quoting there favorite
conpisracy books?

The Purple Sage

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May 10, 1994, 12:16:22 AM5/10/94
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: >And also the date of Hagbard Celine's suicide (the german hacker). Take a
: >look in Illuminatus, or talk to your friendly neighborhood conspiracy nut
: >about the significance of 5/23 (or look back to Stupid Numerology Tricks).

: "nut?" That could get you killed in some circles ;) Many a people
: believe that stuff. After all, the reason Hitler was killing all of the
: jews was cause they knew the Templar's secret to control the world. But you
: didn't hear it from me.

Yeah - I know. I have/had a friend who believed all of it. He believed
that the grey aliens were actually running the shadow government from
underground bases in Nevada & Colorado & listened to all the UFO
theorists (except for Whitley Striber, because he's a government plant &
is trying to convince people that the aliens are our friends). He also
thought that the greys were controlling George Bush & the CIA when JFK
was assassinated. After all this, I made the mistake of giving him a copy
of Illuminatus. He believed every word of it - even that there was a guy
named Hagbard Celine running around the ocean in a golden sub.

Terrifying what those mind implants make people believe, isn't it?


Purp

Hmmmm... something just struck me... <thunk> - Everyone who's worrying
about the Illuminati & UFOs is usually afraid of MIBs (Men In Black)...
funny that it should come up here. Maybe there's a connection! (nah)


(I'm not really that crazy - I'm a lot crazier... but in more interesting
ways)

the Crisco Kid

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May 11, 1994, 8:43:48 AM5/11/94
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In article <2qkk0o$6...@mozz.unh.edu>,

Robert D Dawson <r...@christa.unh.edu> wrote:
>"nut?" That could get you killed in some circles ;) Many a people
>believe that stuff. After all, the reason Wagner was visiting Balsamo
>was cause he knew the Egyptian's secret of eternal youth. But you
>didn't hear it from me.

>just trying to get by one day at a time without the Illuminati catching me

Oh Robert, dear Robert, there is *no* *CABAL*. Not here, not in
soc.bi, not anywhere.

Honestly.

Kay
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