The Cure's drummer
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Ned Raggett
>Will anyone give me any information about The Cure's drummer?
Which one? If you're talking about the current one, Boris Williams
has been with the band since 1985, is in his late thirties or forties,
and used to play with an early version of the Thompson Twins (yikes!).
Guy Jordan
Guy Jordan
I think Parry Bramonte is the current drummer.
Guy Jordan
Ned Raggett
Guy Jordan <ro6...@unix1.circ.gwu.edu> wrote:
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Borris Williams the Bass Player??
>I think Parry Bramonte is the current drummer.
Well, you're wrong, so I'll correct you. (Hey, you asked!) Simon Gallup
has handled the bass duties on a nearly-constant basis (from 83 to right
before "Head on the Door" he was elsewhere) since the band's start. Perry
Bamonte used to be a long-standing roadie for the band (and can be seen as
such in part of the incidental video footage at Dodger Stadium in "Picture
Show") before taking over Roger O'Donnell's spot as keyboardist/guitarist
in 1990. Boris is on drums, Porl Thompson has left the band, and Cap'n
Bob we all know about.
John A Shaffer
You are wrong. The drummer is Boris Williams. The bass player is Simon
Gallup and Perry Bamonte replaced Lawrence Tollhurst and plays rhythym
guitar and keyboards.
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Michael Rashed
> Boris is on drums, Porl Thompson has left the band, and Cap'n
>Bob we all know about.
Has Porl really left the band? He was involved in everything they've
done lately. Or were you thinking of Lol Tolhurst, their original
drummer who became about as useful as a second appendix. He's been
gone since just after Disintegration.
BTW, Boris Williams guested on a couple of songs on Ian McCulloch's
first solo album, Candleland (that's for the person who wanted to know
about him in the first place).
Ned Raggett
Michael Rashed <ras...@beaufort.sfu.ca> wrote:
>Has Porl really left the band? He was involved in everything they've
>done lately. Or were you thinking of Lol Tolhurst, their original
>drummer who became about as useful as a second appendix. He's been
>gone since just after Disintegration.
According to a combination of British press hash and Elektra promo material,
Porl most definitely isn't a Cure member any more. Pity; I like him.
For obvious reasons he appears on the two recent live albums, but apparently
the '92 tours were his last hurrah. As for Lol Tolhurst--he wasn't
even that useful!
Kent Burt
>In article <2h55j2$q...@unix1.circ.gwu.edu>,
>Guy Jordan <ro6...@unix1.circ.gwu.edu> wrote:
>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Borris Williams the Bass Player??
>>I think Parry Bramonte is the current drummer.
>Well, you're wrong, so I'll correct you. (Hey, you asked!) Simon Gallup
>has handled the bass duties on a nearly-constant basis (from 83 to right
>before "Head on the Door" he was elsewhere) since the band's start. Perry
<<<stuff deleted>>>
Ummm.... no. Gallup joined the band in early 1980 for the _Seventeen
Seconds_ album. Before that, Michael Dempsey played bass. While on
sabbatical after the _Pornography_ tour, Gallup formed (I think) Fools Dance
and Cry, although I've never heard anything from either band. Since 85
he's been the bassist again.
Kent
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Liz Fraser sang on that as well. I just thought that some peoplemay be
interested in hearing her sing understandable words.
Ned Raggett
>> As for Lol Tolhurst--he wasn't even that use ful
>
>I think that he served a psychological purpose for the band. he was the
>whipping boy for the lads apparently. I wonder who they beat up on now?--
Supposedly it's either the road manager or one of the chief roadies. He
was mentioned briefly in a Cure story in '92; apparently whoever it is
very much enjoys the role. Hey, if it makes him happy...
Ned Raggett
>Ummm.... no. Gallup joined the band in early 1980 for the _Seventeen
>Seconds_ album. Before that, Michael Dempsey played bass. While on
>sabbatical after the _Pornography_ tour, Gallup formed (I think) Fools Dance
>and Cry, although I've never heard anything from either band. Since 85
>he's been the bassist again.
Quite right; I forgot about Dempsey. I think I confused Simon with Porl,
who if I remember right played in an early version of the Cure before their
first recordings, then hooked up with them again in around '84. Course,
that could be wrong too! Fools Dance did release some sort of EP in '85,
I think--apparently better than Presence but nowhere near as good as the
Cure.
Ben Rad
"Humroot" (a very good album). The drums are very lite, and there is no
snare, just all toms (well, he uses his snare, but no snappies). Worth
checking out if you like his drumming.
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Robb Masters
No you're completely wrong. Boris IS the drummer; Perry plays keyboards.
Robb
Guy Jordan
or something; always stuck playing the washboard or the triangle.
Greg O'Beirne
seems to explain things pretty well up until '86. After that, I think
the only changes were Tolhurst getting kicked, O'Donnell getting kicked,
Bamonte joining, and then Thompson leaving....
Robb Masters
>Boris Williams also played drums on the last Shelleyan Orphan album
>"Humroot" (a very good album). The drums are very lite, and there is no
>snare, just all toms (well, he uses his snare, but no snappies). Worth
>checking out if you like his drumming.
>
Worth checking out if you like good music, in fact.
Robb
Tony Barbour
: Read the individual song credits on "Standing on a Beach" compilation. It
: the only changes were Tolhurst getting kicked, O'Donnell getting kicked,
: Bamonte joining, and then Thompson leaving....
Just to promote thread drift :-)...
What ever happened to R. O'Donnell? I never heard that story.
Tony
Michael Rashed
>Just to promote thread drift :-)...
>What ever happened to R. O'Donnell? I never heard that story.
>Tony
I was just re-reading an interview with Robert Smith in a Vox magazine
from a few months back where he gives his two cents worth on all his
former bandmates. About Roger O'Donnell he says he was incompatible
with certain other members of the band, but wouldn't say who. He says
he personally got along well with him and they are still friends.
Just to keep this thread spiralling, can anybody tell me if Porl has
left, or what? I hear some people saying he did but he's been on
everything lately up to and including Paris...He's Robert Smith's
brother in law so I'd imagine there would have had to be a huge fight
if he left. Or maybe he'd want to leave the public eye while he's
still got two or three strands of hair left on the top of his head.
raymond joseph zeuner
>Just to keep this thread spiralling, can anybody tell me if Porl has
>left, or what? I hear some people saying he did but he's been on
>everything lately up to and including Paris...He's Robert Smith's
>brother in law so I'd imagine there would have had to be a huge fight
>if he left. Or maybe he'd want to leave the public eye while he's
>still got two or three strands of hair left on the top of his head.
Porl left the band after the 92' tour which is what 'Paris' ends
with. He had been thinking of leaving for a while and said he would
leave after the tour. He left on great terms. The reason that is
floating around is his wife(robert's sister) had a baby. I don't
think he'll be back with the cure for awhile but maybe down the
road a couple years(IMHO). The Cure are now a 4 piece and played
very well last June at the Finsbury Park festival. I think they
are going to start a new album soon(so I hear).
ray
Mark Neeley
>Just to keep this thread spiralling, can anybody tell me if Porl has
>left, or what? I hear some people saying he did but he's been on
>everything lately up to and including Paris...He's Robert Smith's
>brother in law so I'd imagine there would have had to be a huge fight
>if he left. Or maybe he'd want to leave the public eye while he's
>still got two or three strands of hair left on the top of his head.
From what I've read, it was a friendly parting. Porl wanted to
be home more with his new baby. He decided to stay with the Cure
until the end of the "Wish" tour, of which "Show" and "Paris" are
recordings. He is not credited for any guitar or keyboard work
on their cover of _Purple_Haze_ which was just released. I imagine
he'll continue to do graphics etc. for the band, like he did from
1978-1984. Also, I heard he showed up as a guitarist for a new
band, (with his head shaved), although I can't remember the name
of the band or the venue.
Mark
KERRY E FITZGERALD
> Will anyone give me any information about The Cure's drummer?
boris is his name and last i'd heard, he wanted to go his own way and start a
little something musical with some chicky from shellyan orphan whom, i do
believe, the cure toured with some years back for...hmm...was it the
disintegration tour? escapes me..anyway, that's all i know.
--daedalia
>
KERRY E FITZGERALD
> His name is Parry Bramonte. That's all I know. (you said *something*!!)
actually perry played keyboards for them for a while and guitar also yet not
drums.
--daedalia
>
KERRY E FITZGERALD
> Has Porl really left the band? He was involved in everything they've
> done lately. Or were you thinking of Lol Tolhurst, their original
> drummer who became about as useful as a second appendix. He's been
> gone since just after Disintegration.
yes, i do believe he has...in a recent article with robert, he said that porl
wanted to do a little more work that catered to his own tastes which are more
bluesy. and no porl was not involved in everything they did recently. when
"the cure" did purple haze for the jimi hendrix tribute album, it was simon and
robert that went back into the studio and remixed it so that it was virtually
unrecognizable. i'm not even positive that porl had much to do with the
original recording of the cure version of the song.
but i must say that i do agree with you about lol being relatively useless.
--daedalia
Michael Rashed
>when
>"the cure" did purple haze for the jimi hendrix tribute album, it was simon and
>robert that went back into the studio and remixed it so that it was virtually
>unrecognizable. i'm not even positive that porl had much to do with the
>original recording of the cure version of the song.
Does this mean there's another version of them doing Purple Haze
somewhere? I think the one on the Hendrix album is kind of neat but
I'd also like to hear them do a more rockin' version, kind of like
what they did with Hello I Love You. Robert so rarely sounds like
he's having fun (not that I want a "happy" cure album...very
occasional upbeat tunes are plenty!).
c...@waikato.ac.nz
> In <rashed.7...@sfu.ca> ras...@beaufort.sfu.ca writes:
> but i must say that i do agree with you about lol being relatively useless.
Out of interest what is this generally held opinion based on?--
DIVIS ERMREY
According to Rebert Smith, Lol was the bands whipping boy for much of their
career. It all stareted when Lol couldn't play a disco drum beat that
Smith wanted to use on a song (can't remember the name) Lol tried to learn
the beat, but couldn't. He agreed to allow a session player to fill in, but
still wanted to play on tour. Smith convinced him to give up the drums on
account of Lol not being able to play it. Smith thought Lol would only
embarrass himself by attempting to play drums on the tour. So Lol agreed to
become a keyboardist.
Unfortunately, Lol wasn't much of a keyboardist either. The band used to
torture Lol by playing a videotape in which Lol plays the opening of "a forest"
completely out of key and time.
When the band was making Kiss Me X 3, Lol wasn't even in the studio. He would
only show up to get his royalties check, and then would leave. Lol was
credited with playing various instuments on the album.
This upset members of the band, who insisted that he leave. So he was booted
out.
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M R Dorman
Porl Thompson (was Paul once) has left the Cure. It was due to musical
differences. I believe ( to the best of my knowlege that it was an amicable
split). As you know Porl was on Paris which was recorded Oct `92. I think he
left just after the Wish tour finished. The now four piece cure played a gig
last June in Finsbury Park in London in aid of Xfm radio who Robert is the
biggest share holder (Chris Parry, head of Fiction records and Cure `manager`
runs the bid to get the station licenced). They played a set which included two
songs which were recorded and released on the Great eXpectations CD which also
featured tracks from the other bands who played there (Belly, Carter USM and
Sugar). The tracks were Disintegration and Just Like Heaven. In Disintegration
Robert mixes up the words for the first three verses I think.
Anyway back to Porl. I`m not sure but I think he either currently in a
new band or trying to form one. And if he has/does it will be louder than most
Cure stuff. It will be most like stuff like Cut and Never Enough.
If anybody knows anymore or has any more info I would be pleased to
hear from them.
Mark
M R Dorman
There seems to be a little confusion here. I`ll try and sort things out for
you. To the best of my knowlege, this is true.
Robert Smith (Vocals, guitars, keyboards and 6-string bass)
Simon Gallup (Bass)
Perry Bamonte (Guitars, keyboards, 6-string bass)
Boris Williams (Drums, percussion)
Perry is an ex-roadie for the Cure; a replacement for Roger O`Donnell (but
Roger only played keys). He is widely known as Teddie.
Here is an almost full `role call` of Cure members;
Michael Dempsey (bass on 3 imaginary boys and boys don`t cry)
Matthieu Hartley (Keys on seventeen seconds)
Porl Thompson (Guitars when Cure was Malice and then Easy Cure, Robert got fed
up with Porl`s solos so Porl left. Rejoined for Saxaphone on The Top, then sax
and Guitar on Head on the door then Guitars upto Paris)
Lol Tolhurst (Drums from start till pornography then keys until Disintegration)
Andy Anderson (Drums on some of Japanese Whispers and all the Top)
Vince Ely?(I`m not sure of the name but drums between Andy and Boris. Ex
Psycadelic Furs)
Phil Thornally (Engineer who played bass on the Top)
Roger O`Donnell (Keys from Hot Hot Hot remix till Disintegration)
David Smith
: Yeah, I always thought of Tolhurst as the "Ed Grimley" of the band
: or something; always stuck playing the washboard or the triangle.
I never thought of Lol Tolhurst as Ed Grimley--after all, he was the band's
original drummer, and he WAS the only member of the group left when Robert
Smith crawled back after his stint as guiatrist with Siouxie and the Banshees.
Check out the 'Walk' single--only Smith & Tolhurst play on it.
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Temple University : I pity his lack of faith."
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c...@waikato.ac.nz
> Guy Jordan (ro6...@unix1.circ.gwu.edu) wrote:
> : Yeah, I always thought of Tolhurst as the "Ed Grimley" of the band
> : or something; always stuck playing the washboard or the triangle.
>
> I never thought of Lol Tolhurst as Ed Grimley--after all, he was the band's
> original drummer, and he WAS the only member of the group left when Robert
> Smith crawled back after his stint as guiatrist with Siouxie and the Banshees.
> Check out the 'Walk' single--only Smith & Tolhurst play on it.
Exactomondo - he must have been an integral part of the Cure for many years and
contributed alot. --
Robb Masters
featuring:
Boris Williams (Cure Drummer);
Porl Thompson (ex-Cure guitarist);
Caroline Crawley (Shelleyan Orphan vocalist and one of This Mortal Coil's
vocalists);
um.. somebody else.
Apparently the band is now signed to 4AD. Boris also drummed on the last
Shelleyan Orphan album.
Robb
Ben
>Robb
Porl also played the Dulcimer on that album.
Ben Rad
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