"kudo" in "Thank you" - wrong English ?

[wheat...@my-deja.com]

I have a question about "Thank You"

The first verse :

"How about getting off all these antibiotics
How about stopping eating when I'm filled up
How about them transparent dangling carrots
How about that ever-elusive kudo
Thank you India........"

I looked up several dictionaries (American and British) -
there was'nt any entry for the word "kudo"

The correct term is "kudos" which means applause.
(how about those ever-elusive kudos ?)

Is this wrong English ? Is this deliberate usage of "kudo" on
Alanis' part ? I'd appreciate any opinions.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks very much

P.S - I love Alanis and her music.

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[JJ Gerard]

"ever elusive kudo"

not being able to get that one applause or praise from someone, mostly yourself
i would assume.
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[BartMan]

I thought it was supposed to be "Kudu" an African antelope, being that
they're "ever elusive?

[Astronema]

A kudo, I think, is like a coup, or some good Karma." Ever elusive" means it's
always around. So no matter what happens, there will always be this little spot
of good-not really present, but just hanging around.

[wheat...@my-deja.com]

Does she read these newsgroups herself ? Maybe she could shed some light
on the issue in question...:)
As far as my knowledge goes, "kudos" is always used in the plural form,
never singular.
I saw her at Woodstock on Saturday - she was as lovely as ever!

[Alice@]

I don't know if that's wrong.. i like alanis..but I have to say that her
last video "so pure"..it's reluctant!!!
wheat...@my-deja.com ha scritto nel messaggio
<7nhtj1$h8g$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>I have a question about "Thank You"
>
>The first verse :
>
>"How about getting off all these antibiotics
>How about stopping eating when I'm filled up
>How about them transparent dangling carrots
>How about that ever-elusive kudo
>Thank you India........"
>
>I looked up several dictionaries (American and British) -
>there was'nt any entry for the word "kudo"
>
>The correct term is "kudos" which means applause.
>(how about those ever-elusive kudos ?)
>
>Is this wrong English ? Is this deliberate usage of "kudo" on
>Alanis' part ? I'd appreciate any opinions.
>Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>Thanks very much
>
>P.S - I love Alanis and her music.
>
>

[David White]

wheat...@my-deja.com writes:

>Does she read these newsgroups herself ? Maybe she could shed some light
>on the issue in question...:)
>As far as my knowledge goes, "kudos" is always used in the plural form,
>never singular.
>I saw her at Woodstock on Saturday - she was as lovely as ever!

'kudos' is a Greek word meaning glory or renown. It is not a plural.
'kudo' was erroneously formed from 'kudos' because it was misunderstood as
a plural. It means an honourable mention, praise for achievement. This
doesn't mean Alanis misunderstood it. She might have seen it somewhere,
because she is not the first to use it, or she might have not cared either
way because it was what she wanted in the song.
Source: Oxford English Dictionary

David

[cochr...@my-deja.com]

> >"How about getting off all these antibiotics
> >How about stopping eating when I'm filled up
> >How about them transparent dangling carrots
> >How about that ever-elusive kudo
> >Thank you India........"

The elusive Kudo: Refer to the previous song about Baba. Followers
flocking to see the Guru who can't wait for the redemption they never
see. They seek the Master's approval ( hence Kudo ), but it's ever
elusive. "Baba" reams the Guru and in this song ( quoted above ), our
heroine, who apparently got sick in India, had a moment of revelation
( thank you frailty ! ) where she realized that the approval
( also see Your Congratulations ) would remain elusive. It was, and is
a transparent, dangling carrot ( I love that image ). She gives thanks
for disllillusionment because " the moment I let got of it, was the
moment I got more than I could ever know. " She let go of that desire
for the Kudo ( which I have to imagine goes back to her Dad. The last
2 songs on the album, seem to be about Mom, then Dad.

Of course this is sort of a normal part of growing up, but it is so
profoundly right on the money, that I still weep when I hear the song,
and I'm not a 14 year old girl ( 48 year old man actually ).

Thank you Alanis ......

[Astronema]

Isn't Kudos a candybar?

[MARTY David]

Hi,
Maybe we should not be too finicky when reading Alanis' words. She seems to
like word-creation. See e.g. "I love you muchly" in UNSENT. Lexical creation
is part of poetry.
Does anyone know who "Estella" is in ALL I REALLY WANT?

David White a écrit dans le message <7nmlq1$b...@werple.mira.net>...

[*tom the alanis fan*]

Alanis also makes her own little plays on words... such as "Thank U Muchly"
I say muchly all the time now... LoL
Alanis rocks@@

[*tom the alanis fan*]

"Your like Estella, you like to real it in then spit it out... I'm
frustrated by your apathy..."
She's saying, you like to take things, use them, and get rid of them, she's
tired of your apathy, (lack of emotion)
Much like Estella...
Estella was the daughter of Miss Havisham in "Great Expectation" Her mother
was stood up at the altar and turned insane, she taught her daughter to
treat men as objects and to never love them... Pip loved her muchly, however
she was cold to him....
thats estella...
:)
~tommyJ
***Remove NOSPAM

[Astronema]

VH1's ex-model, turned VJ, Roshumba Williams, has warned us that Alanis is a
computer fanatic and to be on the lookout for someone who is extremely adept to
and has insight toward Alanis's music...

[wheat...@my-deja.com]

Don't you just love that blessed scream after the last verse of Thank
You - I always feel a shiver go down my spine; the tears start rolling
down instantly.
Out of interest, since we're talking about soprano-like voices in the
realm of rock music (mariah carey, whitney houston and aretha franklin
DO NOT count), do most Alanis-lovers like the Cranberries as well ?
I for one, love them...masterpieces such as Dreams, Zombie and so on
have a similar effect on me...

In article <7nnn9p$cd0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

[cochr...@my-deja.com]

In article <7nqu25$gop$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

wheat...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Don't you just love that blessed scream after the last verse of Thank
> You - I always feel a shiver go down my spine; the tears start rolling
> down instantly.
> Out of interest, since we're talking about soprano-like voices in the
> realm of rock music (mariah carey, whitney houston and aretha franklin
> DO NOT count), do most Alanis-lovers like the Cranberries as well ?
> I for one, love them...masterpieces such as Dreams, Zombie and so on
> have a similar effect on me...

I'm really not that well versed in new music. Just getting started.
But the end of Your Congratulations reminds me of Mahler and the song
cycle called "Songs from the Earth," very sympatico. I tend to binge
on single artists before I branch out. Alanis is on a solid 4 month
run with me.

Coch

[alani...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, July 28, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, David White wrote:
> wheat...@my-deja.com writes:
>
> >Does she read these newsgroups herself ? Maybe she could shed some light
> >on the issue in question...:)
> >As far as my knowledge goes, "kudos" is always used in the plural form,
> >never singular.
> >I saw her at Woodstock on Saturday - she was as lovely as ever!
>
> 'kudos' is a Greek word meaning glory or renown. It is not a plural.
> 'kudo' was erroneously formed from 'kudos' because it was misunderstood as
> a plural. It means an honourable mention, praise for achievement. This
> doesn't mean Alanis misunderstood it. She might have seen it somewhere,
> because she is not the first to use it, or she might have not cared either
> way because it was what she wanted in the song.
> Source: Oxford English Dictionary
>
> David

"This doesn't mean Alanis misunderstood it." Yeeaaahhhh bitches! Alanis for President! :)

[sylvia...@gmail.com]

When you have a spiritual awakening you'll understand what everything symbolises... her nakedness, the few people touching her, the lights, the totally pleasure of being in the moment... antibiotics... everything in life... getting in touch with who and what you really are. Getting rid of your ego... everything in life your cell phone, things keeping you distracted is all antibiotics... transparent dangling carrots is also virtually like antibiotics... things keeping you hooked in the matrix (normal life) drinking, smoking, cell phone, drugs, sex, you name it... they are all put in front of us (like dangling carrots in front of a donkey) elusive kudo as far as I see it is Inner peace. If life has thrown a lot your way you do not have inner peace. Some of us are in constant turmoil... she has found her peace / inner peace. The few people touching her are her soul tribe/ soulmates... we recognise each other instantly. Physic abilities, we sense each others soul. (feel the person's soul). Thank you terror, dilusionment everything you go through in life. Rape, abuse, abandonment everything plays a role. It's people who are empaths we are the ones going through stuff to prepare us 4 what life has in store. It either make