The worst Abba songs
Edward Russell
interesting to find out which songs fans considered to be the WORST things
that Abba did.
Now before anyone spams me, I think that Abba's worst is far better than the
best of many other bands and I'm not saying that they did many weak songs.
It's just that this newsgroup has gotten a bit lame of late and it should,
afterall, be about discussion.
I think that the only rule we should lay out is not to include and of the
unrealeased / undeleted songs. In many cases, they were just demo lyrics, so
it would be unfair. Here are my top 5 worst Abba songs:-
5. King Kong Song
4. I Do x 5
3. Man In The Middle
2. I Saw It In The Mirror
and (this is maybe a bit controversial)
1. So Long
Edward Russell
songs Name of The Game, Take A Chance On Me and Hole In Your Sole. Are we to
presume that it was originally intended as a single?
Thanks for the chuckles from your other points. But one thing - I thought
that when B&B talked about the changing tempo in Summernight City, they were
talking about the released version, not the long version. Like So Long, it
does get faster and slower throughout???
Podmix <pod...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Edward Russell wrote in message <84tld0$1sr$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> >Following that thread about Just A Notion, earlier on, I thought it would
> be
> >interesting to find out which songs fans considered to be the WORST
things
> >that Abba did.
>
>
> Hmm, a blooper compilation of ABBA stuff-ups:
>
> Apart from the songs, howabout songs that shoulda been released as singles
> and never made it? Hole in Your Soul definitely shoulda been done.... I've
> Been Waiting for You as a worldwide single release (why is it always
> overlooked on greatest hits compilations!!!!).... and Lay All Your Love on
> Me as a worldwide release (as too On & On & On)....
>
> >Now before anyone spams me,
>
> Oh, what a pity. Sounds kinda fun in a smuttily suggestive and rather
> peurile way;-)
>
> >I think that Abba's worst is far better than the
> >best of many other bands and I'm not saying that they did many weak
songs.
>
> It's too late; you've done it now. The ABBA police are headed your way
with
> a dose of I Saw it in the Mirror on "Terminal Repeat". You realise people
> have been lynched for less. Now if you were to do a quick penance of,
hmmm,
> say, 150 listenings of The Visitors and Super Trouper albums you may be
> forgiven;-)
>
> >It's just that this newsgroup has gotten a bit lame of late
>
> isgusting that people should have a festive season ain't it;-)
>
> >and it should,
> >afterall, be about discussion.
>
>
> I always thought it was about ABBAnews (but hell, I've always used it for
> cheap slanderous gossip, so who am I to point bony calcifying fingers!)
>
> >I think that the only rule we should lay out is not to include and of the
> >unrealeased / undeleted songs.
>
> Damn! Here I was going to rave about songs never heard by myself even just
> to be a .... clever clogs (remembering there are possibly children
> watching:-) <sweet innocent smile>
>
> >In many cases, they were just demo lyrics, so
> >it would be unfair.
>
> But if Benny was willing to pen Dum Dum Diddle and still release that with
> what shoulda always been demo lyrics (you mean they're not?) - and that's
> even forgiving him putting his name on the Swedish birdsong CD - then I
> don't see much difference.
>
> Just Like That easily beats DDD, which has just about the awfullest lyrics
> ever, and I think Ricky R&R has better lyrics than Hasta Manana (which is
> just plain annoying at best!).
>
> >Here are my top 5 worst Abba songs:-
> >and (this is maybe a bit controversial)
> >
> >1. So Long
>
>
> Oddly enough, B&B said they initially didn't release the longer version of
> Summer Night City cos it speeds up so much.... I wonder why they excused
> themselvess for the same "mistake" in this one, cos it speeds up
noticeably
> throughout....
>
> I personally really like So Long, but each to their own...
>
> Cheers
>
> Podmix
> The future wasn't meant to be
>
>
Slawed
You're maybe right but, if you wait some years and, if you are a big ABBA
fan, you dont find some worst title anymore!
Slawed
Edward Russell <edw...@marlboroughhouse.freeserve.co.uk> a écrit dans le
message : 84tld0$1sr$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Following that thread about Just A Notion, earlier on, I thought it would
be
> interesting to find out which songs fans considered to be the WORST things
> that Abba did.
>
> Now before anyone spams me, I think that Abba's worst is far better than
the
> best of many other bands and I'm not saying that they did many weak songs.
> It's just that this newsgroup has gotten a bit lame of late and it should,
> afterall, be about discussion.
>
> I think that the only rule we should lay out is not to include and of the
> unrealeased / undeleted songs. In many cases, they were just demo lyrics,
so
> it would be unfair. Here are my top 5 worst Abba songs:-
>
> 5. King Kong Song
> 4. I Do x 5
> 3. Man In The Middle
> 2. I Saw It In The Mirror
>
ITSBRY
that way though. Sometimes I won't listen to a certain song
for a long time, then I'll "rediscover" it and wear the track out
on my CD!!!
Does ANYONE like I Do x 5? I think it's a great song...and the
video is so cute. They must have filmed it in a cold room, cause
you can see Agnetha's breath while she's mouthing the words!
My top 5 worst:
1) "I Saw It In The Mirror"
2)"Man In The Middle"
3)"Sitting In The Palmtree"
4)"King Kong Song"
5)"Why Did It Have To Be Me"
ITSBRY
its...@juno.com
Edward Russell wrote in message <84tld0$1sr$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
Podmix
Edward Russell wrote in message <84tld0$1sr$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Following that thread about Just A Notion, earlier on, I thought it would
be
>interesting to find out which songs fans considered to be the WORST things
>that Abba did.
Hmm, a blooper compilation of ABBA stuff-ups:
Apart from the songs, howabout songs that shoulda been released as singles
and never made it? Hole in Your Soul definitely shoulda been done.... I've
Been Waiting for You as a worldwide single release (why is it always
overlooked on greatest hits compilations!!!!).... and Lay All Your Love on
Me as a worldwide release (as too On & On & On)....
>Now before anyone spams me,
Oh, what a pity. Sounds kinda fun in a smuttily suggestive and rather
peurile way;-)
>I think that Abba's worst is far better than the
>best of many other bands and I'm not saying that they did many weak songs.
It's too late; you've done it now. The ABBA police are headed your way with
a dose of I Saw it in the Mirror on "Terminal Repeat". You realise people
have been lynched for less. Now if you were to do a quick penance of, hmmm,
say, 150 listenings of The Visitors and Super Trouper albums you may be
forgiven;-)
>It's just that this newsgroup has gotten a bit lame of late
isgusting that people should have a festive season ain't it;-)
>and it should,
>afterall, be about discussion.
I always thought it was about ABBAnews (but hell, I've always used it for
cheap slanderous gossip, so who am I to point bony calcifying fingers!)
>I think that the only rule we should lay out is not to include and of the
>unrealeased / undeleted songs.
Damn! Here I was going to rave about songs never heard by myself even just
to be a .... clever clogs (remembering there are possibly children
watching:-) <sweet innocent smile>
>In many cases, they were just demo lyrics, so
>it would be unfair.
But if Benny was willing to pen Dum Dum Diddle and still release that with
what shoulda always been demo lyrics (you mean they're not?) - and that's
even forgiving him putting his name on the Swedish birdsong CD - then I
don't see much difference.
Just Like That easily beats DDD, which has just about the awfullest lyrics
ever, and I think Ricky R&R has better lyrics than Hasta Manana (which is
just plain annoying at best!).
>Here are my top 5 worst Abba songs:-
>and (this is maybe a bit controversial)
>
>1. So Long
HHopk15447
Lovers Live a Little Longer
Saw it in the Mirror
On and on and On
Im a Marionette
Man in the Middle
Thomas Beyer
>
> Following that thread about Just A Notion, earlier on, I thought it would be
> interesting to find out which songs fans considered to be the WORST things
> that Abba did.
>
>
> 4. I Do x 5
> 3. Man In The Middle
> 2. I Saw It In The Mirror
>
>
> 1. So Long
Rather precise! However I like "So Long" especially the version from
The Movie, with the intro of "In The Mood" mixed in, is great.
More than this, you omitted at least two of the very worst songs, I
don't even dare to quote the titles:
Kang-a-Kangaroo
Dumb Dumb Fiddle (hello Podmix :-)
Maybe, we should include LAYLOM (sorry Podmix ;-)
Podmix
Edward Russell wrote in message <84to8e$tmb$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>My UK LP of The Album had a gold sticker on it which said "includes the
>songs Name of The Game, Take A Chance On Me and Hole In Your Sole.
The "Sore Foot Remix" eh? Actually, I always have to double check I haven't
used that version of Soul as well.
>Are we to
>presume that it was originally intended as a single?
In OZ, yes. Can't vouch for anywhere else....
>Thanks for the chuckles from your other points.
You're welcome, you did say it was all getting a little lame...
>But one thing - I thought
>that when B&B talked about the changing tempo in Summernight City, they
were
>talking about the released version, not the long version. Like So Long, it
>does get faster and slower throughout???
The slow intro does speed up in itself, but the main part of the song seems
to be at quite a stable tempo (listen to several remixes that have been
done, and the speeds seem to fit just fine), but try doing an edit mix of So
Long, and you'll see that the speed is significantly different in various
places.
Personally, that adds to the appeal of the song.
BTW, I have a mate who used to be in pub bands back in the 80's (still lives
half his life in the menmories, too!!). His one song he'd wanna do is Summer
Night City- but grunge it up and speed it up horrendously. The idea actually
appeals;-)
Cheers
Podmix
The future can be counted on to stuff up the past
Podmix
Thomas Beyer wrote in message <3873806B...@t-online.de>...
>Rather precise! However I like "So Long" especially the version from
>The Movie, with the intro of "In The Mood" mixed in, is great.
Ooh yeah!!! Luv it!
>More than this, you omitted at least two of the very worst songs, I
>don't even dare to quote the titles:
>
>Kang-a-Kangaroo
Doesn't quite leave the same smutty connotations as the real title, but I
like this a lot, hehe:-)
Opens up opportunities for great insults though: eg "KANG you too mate!!!"
"Go and get KANGED!"
>Dumb Dumb Fiddle (hello Podmix :-)
Why, hullo sailor.
>Maybe, we should include LAYLOM (sorry Podmix ;-)
That's okay, cos ya gotta be a bit controversial sometimes;-)
Maybe Lilly can weave some of her special magic:-)
Cheers
Podmix
The future is where ABBA is
ITSBRY
<20000105023947...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
>My five worst are:
>
>Lovers Live a Little Longer
>Saw it in the Mirror
Agree...ICK says it all.
>On and on and On
Used to agree, but I've developed a liking for this one.
>Im a Marionette
DISAGREE strongly. I think this one's very creative.
>Man in the Middle
Again, ICK says it all.
ITSBRY
>> Agree...this song just doesn't work.
>
>right from the hi-hats and percussion work down to the bass which
>just punches forward with so much energy!
I should have been more specific on my criticism of LLALL. The music
works very well. It does have a good beat, etc., but the lyrics just don't
work at all. It seems like the lyrics can barely be sung to keep up with
the music. The result is a pretty clunky finished product, in my opinion.
I think that "Lovelight" should have been included on the Voulez-Vous LP
instead. It's a much stronger song overall.
>
>Are you trying to get me to rescind my earlier niceness about your
>impeccable taste?;-)
Pulling out the big guns, eh? Well honey, if my liking for DDD didn't
rescind it, nothin' will. :)
>Personally, I like this sorta discourse, cos it's nice to hear what other
>people feel about songs that are significant to us all:-)
Ahh, me too! This is a discussion forum after all. If we all liked the
same
things, there wouldn't be much to discuss. To hell with peace and harmony,
bring on the (good natured) fights!!! :) *sharpening my manicured claws*
ITSBRY
its...@juno.com
Podmix
ITSBRY wrote in message <7r4d4.261$83....@news1.iquest.net>...
> Agree...this song just doesn't work.
ERK! How can you say that! This is one of the funkiest little grooves right
from the hi-hats and percussion work down to the bass which just punches
forward with so much energy!
Are you trying to get me to rescind my earlier niceness about your
impeccable taste?;-)
>>Saw it in the Mirror
> Agree...ICK says it all.
That's better:-)
>>On and on and On
> Used to agree, but I've developed a liking for this one.
I'm still waiting for the Humpty Dumpty version release. Just so I can slag
it off as having icky lyrics after all. Otherwise, I'm with you here:-)
>>Im a Marionette
> DISAGREE strongly. I think this one's very creative.
Seconded!! A truly brilliant piece of music that is sadly dissed by most
people who find it too unusual for their liking. Always requires several
listenings, but wonderful nonetheless:-)
>>Man in the Middle
> Again, ICK says it all.
Oh, what a pity. I quite like them taking the piss out of money-movers and
crooks. I find this one nearly works, and ain't nearly as offensive as some
(not mentioning names;-)
Personally, I like this sorta discourse, cos it's nice to hear what other
people feel about songs that are significant to us all:-)
Cheers
Podmix
The future makes its own rules
Thomas Beyer
>
> Doesn't quite leave the same smutty connotations as the real title, but I
> like this a lot, hehe:-)
>
Anyway, I'm very proud of it, because this was my first ABBA-joke in
1975, when I hardly spoke English :-)
ITSBRY
reasonable
>attempt. IIRC, it was one of the first ones finished in the 1978 recording
>sessions, and they left it alone pretty much once it was finished....
Definately not. And it's not a criticism of the wonderful
Frida either. I just don't think the song works well with the
lyrics. It just seems too rushed. And while were on this...I
really believe that B&B didn't take advantage of Frida's voice
as much as they could have at times. I would love to hear
some of the classics that are Agnetha-led and see how they
would sound with Frida as lead (and vise-versa even). That
would be neat! I'm sure those archives at Polar contain some
of that stuff. I know they tried the songs in several different
ways before deciding on the finished product.
>There I definitely don't agree. I think some of the musical aspects leave a
>little to be desired (the arrangemant is not very inspired, and I find the
>vocals a little strained towards the end of the song....). The vocal
>harmonic work is nice, though....
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. :)
>Hehe, all you really need to do is admit that you think Bjorn's "Baby,
Those
>are the Rules" has wonderful lyrics and I won't need any heavy artillery;-)
I'll need to educate myself. I don't know the lyrics to that one.
(Other than the little snip on the TY ABBA video...and I call myself
a fan!). I have to admit I'm a fan MOSTLY for the girls. Diva worship
ya know. :) I'll give the boys the credit for wonderful song writing, but
it's all about how the girls make it happen. And come on...when anyone,
fan or not, thinks of ABBA they think of Agnetha and Frida in their
white cat shirts and go-go boots. :) Let's admit it, we're all swayed by
a pretty face. (In this case, by immense talent as well).
>Mmmm, sounds .... enticing:-)
BEEEHAAAVE!!!! GRRRRRR.....
ITSBRY
its...@juno.com
Cory
4.Under attack
3.Kisses of fire
2.Rock and roll band
1.Soldiers
Sian Williams
>
> Hehe, all you really need to do is admit that you think Bjorn's "Baby, Those
> are the Rules" has wonderful lyrics and I won't need any heavy artillery;-)
Yes but at least that song doesn't get an airing at the B&B concerts -
which somehow Sunny Girl manages - she's domestic, she is property etc.
etc. ....
Thank god we can excuse that one by saying it came from the previous
millennium!!
Siân
Sian Williams
so far Crazy World hasn't been mentioned which is most unfair, and for
god's sake what about Two For the Price of One?? Thanks Bjorn for your
sterling efforts on both!!) BUT let's just stop for a moment and say to
ourselves one word: ABBAMANIA
So, that done, NOW which are ABBA's worst??
Siân
Hello, hello, it's good to be back, good to be back, hello ...
ITSBRY
choices...."You Owe Me One" isn't their best stuff, but
I think that "Under Attack" and "Soliders" are two of
their best songs ever. The stuff in the later years was
really great. "Solidiers" did have to grow on me, but I
really love it now.
I also love "Kisses Of Fire". I think it's a wonderfully fun
disco tune. I actually like the vocals in "Rock n' Roll Band"
too. I think alot of the stuff from "Ring Ring" was actually
very good. It was a different era though and not alot of
folks cup of tea.
Anyway...my two cents.
ITSBRY
its...@juno.com
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ITSBRY wrote in message <2dcd4.290$83....@news1.iquest.net>...
>>>>Lovers Live a Little Longer
>>> Agree...this song just doesn't work.
>works very well. It does have a good beat, etc., but the lyrics just don't
>work at all. It seems like the lyrics can barely be sung to keep up with
>the music. The result is a pretty clunky finished product, in my opinion.
It's probably not one of Frida's high points, but she does make a reasonable
attempt. IIRC, it was one of the first ones finished in the 1978 recording
sessions, and they left it alone pretty much once it was finished....
>I think that "Lovelight" should have been included on the Voulez-Vous LP
>instead. It's a much stronger song overall.
There I definitely don't agree. I think some of the musical aspects leave a
little to be desired (the arrangemant is not very inspired, and I find the
vocals a little strained towards the end of the song....). The vocal
harmonic work is nice, though....
>Pulling out the big guns, eh? Well honey, if my liking for DDD didn't
>rescind it, nothin' will. :)
Hehe, all you really need to do is admit that you think Bjorn's "Baby, Those
are the Rules" has wonderful lyrics and I won't need any heavy artillery;-)
>To hell with peace and harmony,
>bring on the (good natured) fights!!! :)
I'm sure it's what ABBA would have wanted;-)
> *sharpening my manicured claws*
Mmmm, sounds .... enticing:-)
Cheers
Podmix
The future is stockpiling for the future
Podmix
Thomas Beyer wrote in message <387553E7...@t-online.de>...
>> >Kang-a-Kangaroo
>>
>> Doesn't quite leave the same smutty connotations as the real title, but I
>> like this a lot, hehe:-)
>>
>Yes, but it sounds better.
>
>Anyway, I'm very proud of it, because this was my first ABBA-joke in
>1975, when I hardly spoke English :-)
It's aged very well then (unlike some people, not mentioning any names;-)
Benny's best joke was the lyrics to DDD, and that was a year after yours...
Oh, dear! I'm for it now;-)
Does anybody else here have any good ABBA jokes?
Cheers
Podmix
The future laughs and laughs and laughs
HHopk15447
>>>> Agree...this song just doesn't work.
>>I should have been more specific on my criticism of LLALL. The music
>>works very well. It does have a good beat, etc., but the lyrics just don't
>>work at all. It seems like the lyrics can barely be sung to keep up with
>>the music. The result is a pretty clunky finished product, in my opinion.
I just always thought this song was like fingernails on a chalkboard.
>>I think that "Lovelight" should have been included on the Voulez-Vous LP
>>instead. It's a much stronger song overall.
>
I agree. I have a little bit of a problem about the way the beginning vocals
start; it seems muddled and flat to me, but I thought it was definitely worthy
of album inclusion.
HHopk15447
>so far Crazy World hasn't been mentioned which is most unfair, and for
>god's sake what about Two For the Price of One??
I liked Crazy World quite a bit. It has a nice melancholy flavor, slightly
haunting and subdued. TFTPOO though was pretty flat and I always wondered how
that song made it onto an album while Cassandra didn't. I wasn't so impressed
with the soporific Angel Passing either, come to think of it;)
ITSBRY
while Cassandra didn't.
I see your point, however, "Cassandra" wasn't recorded
until 1982, after "The Visitors" album (1981). TFTPOO is
pretty bad. Kind of disappointing really, considering that
the rest of this album is WONDERFUL. Very thoughtful
lyrics and great musical arrangements.
>I wasn't so impressed with the soporific Angel Passing
>either, come to think of it;)
Don't agree at all here. I think LAAPTMR is haunting and a
brilliant display of Frida's vocal abilities. I'm quite partial to
their un-ABBA sounding stuff though. (i.e., "I'm A Marionette",
"The Piper", etc.)
ITSBRY
its...@juno.com
Sian Williams
but - if I've kept track - the nominees for the worst ABBA compilation
album are running at the following (in no particular order):
I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do
Man In The Middle
I Saw It In The Mirror
Rock and roll band
Sitting In The Palmtree
King Kong Song
Why Did It Have To Be Me
Lovers Live a Little Longer
On and on and On
Dum Dum Diddle
Bang-a-Boomerang
Crazy World
Two for the Price of One
I've excluded any track where someone has already leapt convincingly to
its defence ... so, folks, speak now if there's a song here you want to
exclude from the 'worst of' list - otherwise we can assume these are the
most hated, erm, no ... least loved of ABBA's songs.
Credit where it's due - Bjorn we hate it when you sing!!
Sian
abbavan
Now, about Pod's opinion on Bjorn's vocals, have you heard any Hootenanny
Singers songs?
Bjorn (and Agnetha and Frida) sing SO much better and with more feeling and
emotion in their native language. I will agree that some of Bjorns early
attempts at
English lyrics were pretty bad, but one just needs to listen to the SWEDISH
lyrics
that he wrote at that same time. Songs such as Lise Lotte, a beautiful song
about a man's love for his daughter he only gets to see once a month, or
Kara gamla sol, a song about the snow bringing back old memories of the
woman who left.
Bjorn's best vocals probably are Omkring tiggarn fran Loussa, De ar nage
visst med dej, and Sa lange du alskar ar du ung. The last was the
Hootenanny's biggest selling hit, it went gold with over 100,000 copies
sold. Sure Bjorn sang fewer vocals as
ABBA became famous, he and Benny ALWAYS say it was the ladies that made
ABBA popular, and he knew where the bread was buttered.
View over 600 lyrics by Bjorn, many with translations at my Bjorn Homepage.
View many Hootenanny Singers picture covers as well, featuring a young
Bjorn.
Lastly, I hate it not being able to use the correct Swedish alphabet here,
my
server does not allow the characters to be sent.
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See picture covers that Bjorn and Benny wrote such as A flower in
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Thanks.
Hi Cathy and all the other members of the Bjorn Brigade
Karl
Podmix wrote in message ...
>
>Sian Williams wrote in message <3878F243...@dtn.ntl.com>...
>>I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do
>
>
>>Man In The Middle
>
>A pity cos i like this one's funk attempt
>
>>I Saw It In The Mirror
>
>
>
>>Rock and roll band
>
>
>The original version on the b-side of Love has its Way is awful, yes, but
>the album version is not too offensive...
>
>>Sitting In The Palmtree
>
>Oh, now for a Swedish band attempting reggae, this is pretty good. And the
>middle 8 harmonies by the girls are just beautiful. Set this one free,
>please cos it's not really as bad as all that.
>
>>King Kong Song
>
>Worthy of its scream at the end of the second verse...please insert Watch
>Out instead cos that's a real screamer (ie bleh!!!)
>
>>Why Did It Have To Be Me
>
>
>>Lovers Live a Little Longer
>
>
>>On and on and On
>
>number, though;-)
>
>>Dum Dum Diddle
>
>Kill it quickly before it breeds!
>
>>Bang-a-Boomerang
>
>Goodbye...
>
>>Crazy World
>
>Yeah, not a real gem....
>
>>Two for the Price of One
>
>
>what more can I say?
>
>>Credit where it's due - Bjorn we hate it when you sing!!
>
>
4
>years as opposed to about 12 in the first 4 years:-)
>
>Cheers
>
>Podmix
>The future lets other people do vocals now
>
>
Podmix
Sian Williams wrote in message <387730C5...@dtn.ntl.com>...
Podmix wrote:
>
> Hehe, all you really need to do is admit that you think Bjorn's "Baby,
Those
> are the Rules" has wonderful lyrics and I won't need any heavy
artillery;-)
Yes but at least that song doesn't get an airing at the B&B concerts -
which somehow Sunny Girl manages - she's domestic, she is property etc.
etc. ....
Makes you wonder if A&A really knew what they were getting themselves
into... both guys certainly un-PCified themselves quite astoundingly. Maybe
A&A found emancipation after the whole affair....
Cheers (and good to seeya back, babe!:-)
Podmix
The future is carefukl about what it says
Podmix
ITSBRY wrote in message ...
>>It's probably not one of Frida's high points, but she does make a
>reasonable
>>attempt. IIRC, it was one of the first ones finished in the 1978 recording
>>sessions, and they left it alone pretty much once it was finished....
>
>some of the classics that are Agnetha-led and see how they
>would sound with Frida as lead (and vise-versa even). That
>would be neat! I'm sure those archives at Polar contain some
>of that stuff. I know they tried the songs in several different
>ways before deciding on the finished product.
One for the future.... I only hope we'll all be around when they finally
open the vaults.... I agree, and it's a life-long ambition to be around to
hear these:-)
>>Hehe, all you really need to do is admit that you think Bjorn's "Baby,
>Those
>>are the Rules" has wonderful lyrics and I won't need any heavy
artillery;-)
>
>I'll need to educate myself. I don't know the lyrics to that one.
Something along the lines of:
Never go playin' around
Don't get out of line
Never go runnin' round
Keep me feeling fine
Kiss me hard everytime
Tell me that you're gonna be mine, oh mine
Don't mess around with them fools
Don't mess around with them fools
Baby, those are the rules
Always be right on time
Always give me kicks
It is not such a crime
If I look at chicks
Give me thrills everyday
Make love, baby in the sweetest way
Ignore it when somebody blues
Ignore it when somebody drools
Baby, thsoe are the rules
Never have other dates,
Even if I do
Heaven help any guy
That I catch with you
Never have no lifes (?) to say
Cos baby if I catch you there'll be hell to pay
Don't go swingin' with fools
Don't go swingin' with fools
Baby those are the rules
Always be nice to me
Don't you let me down
Don't be like ice to me
I am not a clown
Love me good everytime
Cos I want you baby to be only mine
Baby those are the rules ( repeat ad nauseum)
There you have it: a case of do as I say, and not as I do, IMHO:-) The 1st
verse is reasonable, but as it goes along shows a wonderful set of double
standards as the basis for that relationship. Maybe he was being completely
ironic;-)
>I'll give the boys the credit for wonderful song writing, but
>it's all about how the girls make it happen.
Interesting, cos I've always thought it was the combination that worked so
well... Separately, I feel they are less than they were as a single unit:
but you can hardly deny that the guys have been more successful since the
split up.... sad, really cos the girls are exceptionally talented as well. I
guess it can be accounted for by the fact that the recording industry is
still strongly dominated by the male ethos:-( and any women who try to make
it on their own have an uphill battle being recognised as creative forces in
their own right....
>And come on...when anyone,
>fan or not, thinks of ABBA they think of Agnetha and Frida in their
>white cat shirts and go-go boots. :) Let's admit it, we're all swayed by
>a pretty face. (In this case, by immense talent as well).
Yes, sadly that is what the girls are best remembered for.... is it any
wonder Agnetha was probably dismayed at being dismissed as having a sexy
bottom.... all those years in the business to be only remembered for your
physical attributes, and not for your talent as a musician (remember that
she's also an accomplished pianist and successful songwriter)....
>>Mmmm, sounds .... enticing:-)
>
>BEEEHAAAVE!!!! GRRRRRR.....
Ooh! Take yer hands off me ya big brute!!! Ow!
Oh, okay, maybe just a little slap around;-)
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Jay
Sian Williams wrote:
>
> Well so far there's been a fair bit of disagreement (quelle surprise!)
> but - if I've kept track - the nominees for the worst ABBA compilation
> album are running at the following (in no particular order):
>
LLALL is one of my favorites, I thought some of us agreed on the fact
that the sound is very funky, but the vocals don't seem to match with
the tune. I disagree though, I love the tracks.
OAOAO is a bit irritating at first, but it shouldn't be in the 'worst
Abba songs'-list. When one hears it more often, one tends to grow a
certain affection for it. (I know I have, *grin*)
Gr.
Jay
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abbavan wrote in message <3879...@news.picus.com>...
>I saw it in the middle for sure.
;-)
>Now, about Pod's opinion on Bjorn's vocals, have you heard any Hootenanny
>Singers songs?
Yeah, I have a few of the albums (Basta & Visa Vackraste 1 IIRC and several
of the singles).
Personally, I don't find his vocals as offensive as some people seem to- I
think he had a good understanding of his own vocal limitations, but a
refined sense of musicianship as displayed in his production methods (am I
forgiven?;-)
>Bjorn (and Agnetha and Frida) sing SO much better and with more feeling and
>emotion in their native language. I will agree that some of Bjorns early
>attempts at
>English lyrics were pretty bad,
I am, however, quite impressed with them by the time of something like I've
Been Waiting For You- a sublime & highly underrated song. Some of his early
lyrics are still better than some of those written by English
native-languagers....
There you go for middle ground:-)
Cheers
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Sian Williams <sian.w...@dtn.ntl.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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> Well so far there's been a fair bit of disagreement (quelle surprise!)
> but - if I've kept track - the nominees for the worst ABBA compilation
> album are running at the following (in no particular order):
>
What - you really don't like that? I think it is not so bad. At least one
special video for this song is one of the best. It is not the official video
but one which was produced for the TV show "Made in Sweden - For Export".
Has anyone seen it? It is really funny. Agnetha and Frida are entering the
scene, an idyllic countryside somewhere in Sweden but with two other guys.
You can hear many loud flies all around. The speaker from the off says: "In
a situation like this, there just has to be music in the background". And I
Do I Do starts. But then you can see Björn and Benny approaching and
fighting with the other guys so they can take their places beside the girls.
All the four have a picnic while singing I Do I Do, and near them there are
some 20 saxophonists playing....
But besides the funny scene, the girls are just so sweet and beautiful in
this video. You can see a portion of it in the new VHS "The Winner Takes It
All" but only a short piece unfortunately. Agnetha and Frida are wearing
kind of folkloristic dresses in this video as it seems, though Stig was not
so happy with traditional costumes as I read somewhere.
Sian Williams
> Makes you wonder if A&A really knew what they were getting themselves
> into... both guys certainly un-PCified themselves quite astoundingly.
Don't know why but that reminds me of the comment Bjorn made on a TV
programme last year about neither Agnetha or Frida ever complaining
about his lyrics - though, rather delightfully, what he actually said
was something akin to "neither of the girls ever said 'no, I can't take
that into my mouth'" - ahem!
> Cheers (and good to seeya back, babe!:-)
You can see my back?? Cheeky blighter!
Sian
Sian Williams
>
> Sian Williams <sian.w...@dtn.ntl.com> schrieb - the nominees for the worst ABBA compilation
> > album are running at the following (in no particular order):
> >
> > I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do
>
> What - you really don't like that? I think it is not so bad.
Personally I don't like it - but it wasn't my nomination! The list was
what other people had already submitted.
However I love your description of the video - I've never seen that
version all the way through and it sounds really amusing. There is a
classic moment in it where the 4 are having a picnic and Benny, with his
back to Frida, offers a bottle of wine around. Frida holds out her
glass, he ignores her (oh, OK, maybe he doesn't see her!) and replaces
the bottle. She carries on singing, brave lass, with an empty glass and
tears in her eyes.
OK, I made the last bit up! But maybe, Pod, those 2 B's weren't as PC as
you think!!
pmfw (Benjamin Johnson)
Edward Russell wrote:
> Here are my top 5 worst Abba songs:-
>
> 5. King Kong Song
> 4. I Do x 5
> 3. Man In The Middle
> 2. I Saw It In The Mirror
>
> and (this is maybe a bit controversial)
>
> 1. So Long
I love King Kong Song. It's so stupid it's brilliant. So bad it's good. It
makes me want to jump around and wave my arms and break things. I can't argue
with that. Only T.Rex usually has that affect on me.
I Do x 5 I hated when I was younger, but now it strikes me as one of their
best... plus it has been used so often in movies to great effect that you must
admit it is a classic.
So Long.... beautiful song.
--
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Sian Williams wrote in message <387D0304...@dtn.ntl.com>...
>> Cheers (and good to seeya back, babe!:-)
>
>You can see my back?? Cheeky blighter!
Well, you will insist on wearing those dresses with the low cut at the back.
My, but that's an interesting birth-mark....
It is a birth-mark isn't it?
Who you callin' cheeky!
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Sian Williams wrote in message <387D05DC...@dtn.ntl.com>...
>However I love your description of the video - I've never seen that
>version all the way through and it sounds really amusing. There is a
>classic moment in it where the 4 are having a picnic and Benny, with his
>back to Frida, offers a bottle of wine around. Frida holds out her
>glass, he ignores her (oh, OK, maybe he doesn't see her!) and replaces
>the bottle. She carries on singing, brave lass, with an empty glass and
>tears in her eyes.
>
>OK, I made the last bit up! But maybe, Pod, those 2 B's weren't as PC as
>you think!!
I'd never classed them anywhere near to being PC.
Ever.
I'm not convinced they even lived through the women's Rights movements of
the 60s....
Maybe we need a new thread: ABBA most cringeable sexist moments?
I like one where the guys rip the skirts off the girls to reveal long legs
and skimpy shorts.
Oh, woops, that was Bucks Fizz!
See, that's the sort of influence that ABBA had!;-)
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> version all the way through and it sounds really amusing. There is a
> classic moment in it where the 4 are having a picnic and Benny, with his
> back to Frida, offers a bottle of wine around. Frida holds out her
> glass, he ignores her (oh, OK, maybe he doesn't see her!) and replaces
> the bottle. She carries on singing, brave lass, with an empty glass and
> tears in her eyes.
What could she do about it? Otherwise they would have had to do the filming
once again! ;-)
Nevertheless, its one of the classiest videos I know. I really hope some of
this old TV stuff will turn up again in top quality, not as third generation
copy or something. For "Made in Sweden - For Export" the rights belong to
Sveriges Television, as well as the "ABBA in Australia" special if I am
right. And maybe "ABBA-DABBA-DOO" as well. Most of these specials were
produced by Leonard Eek according to the credits at the end.
Of course what I would like to see any time would be "ABBA in Switzerland"
and the Dick Cavett show COMPLETE!
Robert
ITSBRY
>I Do x 5 I hated when I was younger, but now it strikes me as one of their
>best... plus it has been used so often in movies to great effect that you
must
>admit it is a classic.
YAY!! Someone who sees the merit in this song. I think it's great!
It has a totally different "style" than traditional ABBA stuff and
that what makes it great. That's what made ABBA great. The ability
to spread their wings and do stuff that was not the norm. I love this
one. It was a great part of the marriage ceremony scene in "Muriel's
Wedding" too. :-)
ITSBRY
its...@juno.com
pmfw (Benjamin Johnson)
ITSBRY wrote:
Specifically the movie I was thinking of when I posted... I think some other
flicks have used it since then. Copycats! But, hey, copycats with good
taste. :)
-Benjamin
> ITSBRY
> its...@juno.com
Dolfan500
>>
>> What - you really don't like that? I think it is not so bad.
>
>Personally I don't like it - but it wasn't my nomination! The list was
>what other people had already submitted.
I think I Do x5 is Abba'a worse song. In fact, I have a little foam ball I
throw at my Forward 1- traack button on my CD player when it comes on.
Guy
Ingeborg S. Nordén
Sian Williams <sian.w...@dtn.ntl.com> wrote in message
news:387D0304...@dtn.ntl.com...
> Don't know why but that reminds me of the comment Bjorn made on a TV
> programme last year about neither Agnetha or Frida ever complaining
> about his lyrics - though, rather delightfully, what he actually said
> was something akin to "neither of the girls ever said 'no, I can't take
> that into my mouth'" - ahem!
FWIW, "not taking ___ into one's mouth" is a perfectly normal, non-sexual
Swedish idiom for being reluctant to use a word or expression. It's a shame
Bjorn translated it word-for-word and left people with the wrong idea!
--
Ingeborg S. Nordén
(rune...@chorus.net)
Sian Williams
>
>
> > Don't know why but that reminds me of the comment Bjorn made on a TV
> > programme last year about neither Agnetha or Frida ever complaining
> > about his lyrics - though, rather delightfully, what he actually said
> > was something akin to "neither of the girls ever said 'no, I can't take
> > that into my mouth'" - ahem!
>
> FWIW, "not taking ___ into one's mouth" is a perfectly normal, non-sexual
> Swedish idiom for being reluctant to use a word or expression. It's a shame
> Bjorn translated it word-for-word and left people with the wrong idea!
>
Thanks, Ingeborg, for your comment - it is so rare for Bjorn to make a
mistake with his English it's noteworthy for that alone!
Siân
supe...@gmail.com
Like, what were they thinking with that one?