The Movie DVD in August 16
Duram
Sammy
It looks like the DVD was shitcanned again, unfortunate since it's my
favorite Abba recording, I love watching Agnetha prance around the stage.
Sammy
Brian The Demolition Man Little
I heard its postponed until this fall as I believe Universal obtained
the rights to it (originally Warner was going to release it). From what
I have heard its going to be a 2 disc edition now so it most likely
will be worth the few extra months in waiting. :)
kaboom
<a@b.c> wrote:
>I heard its postponed until this fall as I believe Universal obtained
>the rights to it (originally Warner was going to release it). From what
>I have heard its going to be a 2 disc edition now so it most likely
>will be worth the few extra months in waiting. :)
**I read about the extras that are supposed to be on it and....YAWN!
No Frida or Agnetha interviews? Booooooooooring. Just give me the
movie.
Digipack contents:
Disc 1: The fully restored widescreen film. Sound in DTS, Dolby
Digital 5.1 and Dolby Digital Stereo.
Disc 2: Bonus features:
- An interview about the film with Lasse Hallström (who directed ABBA
- The Movie ), Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson, filmed in New York
this year;
- the original ABBA - The Movie trailers
- an ABBA - The Album TV commercial
- a memorabilia picture gallery
- a gallery of the original souvenir tour program
**Where's Frida and Agnetha? How about some outtakes? The commercials
seem okay, I like those.
kaboomie
infiniteman
kaboom wrote:
> **I read about the extras that are supposed to be on it and....YAWN!
> No Frida or Agnetha interviews? Booooooooooring. Just give me the
> movie.
>
The same here. Received a dvd catalog in the mail the other day which
included "ABBA: The Movie" in it, showing what the artwork would've
been like. Didn't care for what I saw, reminded me of an album cover
from the 60s. Too garish. Hopefully, Universal will have a better cover
than the one I saw.
> Digipack contents:
> Disc 1: The fully restored widescreen film. Sound in DTS, Dolby
> Digital 5.1 and Dolby Digital Stereo.
>
> Disc 2: Bonus features:
> - An interview about the film with Lasse Hallström (who directed ABBA
> - The Movie ), Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson, filmed in New York
> this year;
> - the original ABBA - The Movie trailers
> - an ABBA - The Album TV commercial
> - a memorabilia picture gallery
> - a gallery of the original souvenir tour program
>
What?????!!!???? No mention of the "Mamma Mia" Broadway musical?
Could we get that lucky? Not that I dislike the musical but it seems
like every time I pick up an ABBA product, it has a plug for the
musical -- which is really getting to be irritating.
As for the interviews, I'm more interested in hearing what B&B have
to say than in what Lasse has to say. But, what the hell, he was a lot
closer to ABBA than the individuals interviewed for the "ABBA Live In
Concert" dvd.
> **Where's Frida and Agnetha? How about some outtakes? The commercials
> seem okay, I like those.
Have to wonder where Frida and Agnetha were; they should've been
there. Have to wonder if they were even asked to participate? As for
outtakes, I would like to have seen that included or a reworked version
of "ABBA: The Movie," removing the fictional parts of the movie on the
second disc. The trailers for the movie and the commercial for "ABBA:
The Album" sound okay to me but the memorabilia picture gallery and the
gallery for the souvenir tour program sounds like a repeat of the bonus
features on the live dvd. But, fan that I am, you know I'm going to buy
it when it's released.
kaboom
>kaboom wrote:
>
>> **I read about the extras that are supposed to be on it and....YAWN!
>> No Frida or Agnetha interviews? Booooooooooring. Just give me the
>> movie.
>>
> The same here. Received a dvd catalog in the mail the other day which
>included "ABBA: The Movie" in it, showing what the artwork would've
>been like. Didn't care for what I saw, reminded me of an album cover
>from the 60s. Too garish. Hopefully, Universal will have a better cover
>than the one I saw.
I don't know if this is a mockup or not but:
http://www.abba-world.net/news/abbathemovie.htm
<snip DVD description>
> What?????!!!???? No mention of the "Mamma Mia" Broadway musical?
**Okay, right here I thought: Are you out of your SKULL? Then...
>Could we get that lucky? Not that I dislike the musical but it seems
>like every time I pick up an ABBA product, it has a plug for the
>musical -- which is really getting to be irritating.
...I got to here and was laughing. :) I am supremely irritated at the
Mamma Mia crap inserted into ABBA this or that. I so do NOT care about
it when it's hogging screen time that could be given to Agnetha or
Frida.
> As for the interviews, I'm more interested in hearing what B&B have
>to say than in what Lasse has to say. But, what the hell, he was a lot
>closer to ABBA than the individuals interviewed for the "ABBA Live In
>Concert" dvd.
**Eh, usually the director turns up on every DVD movie.
>> **Where's Frida and Agnetha? How about some outtakes? The commercials
>> seem okay, I like those.
>
> Have to wonder where Frida and Agnetha were; they should've been
>there. Have to wonder if they were even asked to participate? As for
>outtakes, I would like to have seen that included or a reworked version
>of "ABBA: The Movie," removing the fictional parts of the movie on the
>second disc.
**You mean remove the crap taking up the time that we could actually
be seeing ABBA perform live instead?
You don't like:
Little-Australian-Girl-That-Thinks-They're-Sexy: The Movie?
Aussie-Cab-Driver-Offended-By-Agnetha's-Ass: The Movie?
Ashley-The-Loser-Wandering-Aimlessly: The Movie?
That said, I like the movie and some of those non-ABBA bits anyway.
>The trailers for the movie and the commercial for "ABBA:
>The Album" sound okay to me but the memorabilia picture gallery and the
>gallery for the souvenir tour program sounds like a repeat of the bonus
>features on the live dvd. But, fan that I am, you know I'm going to buy
>it when it's released.
**Hell yea, I'll be in the store on Tuesday. The souvenir program is
the Aussie 77 program most likely. I've never seen one of those. I
have a couple of 79s.
kaboomie
infiniteman
artwork features a photo of ABBA that seemed to be computer-enhanced on
the color against a black background with ABBA's name mentioned three
times on the front cover, in various colors and "The Movie" mentioned
about half way down. The artwork sort of resembles the artwork on an
album by the Monkees from the late 60s.
Critic's Choice was the company which sent the catalog and they have
a website -- www.ccvideo.com. I don't know if they still have a listing
and artwork for ABBA's movie on their website before Universal snagged
the rights away from Warners. It's possible it could still be up but
even if it's not, the site is worth checking as they have some good
prices on the dvds, including a deal on dvds from Paramount: buy 2 (at
$11.21) and get a third title free.
Re: Mamma Mia, Here We Go Again, My my:
> > What?????!!!???? No mention of the "Mamma Mia" Broadway musical?
>
> **Okay, right here I thought: Are you out of your SKULL? Then...
>
(LOL, you should know me better than that!)
> >Could we get that lucky? Not that I dislike the musical but it seems
> >like every time I pick up an ABBA product, it has a plug for the
> >musical -- which is really getting to be irritating.
>
> ...I got to here and was laughing. :) I am supremely irritated at the
> Mamma Mia crap inserted into ABBA this or that. I so do NOT care about
> it when it's hogging screen time that could be given to Agnetha or
> Frida.
>
I'm the same: "Mamma Mia" is ABBA-related via Benny and Bjorn (and
Stig) having written the songs and by Agnetha and Frida having sung the
songs originally. But the stage play is Benny's and Bjorn's success,
has been for years now, so why does Universal feel the need to keep
plugging the play? Oh, of course, they got 50% of the publishing in
addition to the rights to original ABBA recordings and maybe they have
to work a deal to gain approval from Benny and Bjorn on the recordings,
whether audio or visual. Still, I think one more plug for "Mamma Mia"
and I'm going to shoot the dvd player and TV.
Re: Lasse, Go Home!
> **Eh, usually the director turns up on every DVD movie.
>
That or the writer or producer or someone whose connection is not
that close. Last year, I picked up Olivia's rarely seen movie, "Sordid
Lives" on dvd and it featured interviews with the writer and producer
as well as a couple of outtakes of Olivia's performances from the
movie. I felt bad for Olivia and the rest of the cast after watching it
- the late Ed Wood could've done it better! As for the writer and
producer (or director), they should've done their interviews with their
faces obscured by darkness. I wouldn't want the world to know I wasted
perfectly good film on crap like "Sordid Lives."
Re: ABBA: The Alternate Movie:
> **You mean remove the crap taking up the time that we could actually
> be seeing ABBA perform live instead?
>
I'd rather have seen footage of the concert with complete
performances of the songs on disc two, more like an alternate version
of the movie. I didn't think that the original movie's mix of fiction
and documentary worked very well together. I'm not sure the blending of
fiction and documentary had ever been tried in a movie before. The
documentary side was okay but the fictional side needed a little bit of
work.
> You don't like:
>
> Little-Australian-Girl-That-Thinks-They're-Sexy: The Movie?
That scene was okay, the fan reaction being kind of what you'd expect
to see in a documentary. Even if the scene was staged and the girl was
given lines to read, it would still have been believable.
> Aussie-Cab-Driver-Offended-By-Agnetha's-Ass: The Movie?
LMAO. I've always thought there had to be something wrong with that
Aussie cabbie if he was offended by Agnetha's derriere. Was he for real
or was he given lines?
> Ashley-The-Loser-Wandering-Aimlessly: The Movie?
>
I kept hoping a huge sinkhole would've opened up and consumed Ashley
into an abyss where we'd never seen him again. The very thin plotline
of an Australian country(!) disc jockey trying to get an interview with
ABBA needed to be fleshed out and made more believable. A country DJ
interviewing a pop group? Get outta here! And it didn't make sense not
telling ABBA until the last minute who this actor was who was following
them around and stalking them, just so their reactions would be genuine
at seeing him pop up wherever they happened to be. In retrospect, it
may not have been such a wise thing to do for ABBA or for the actor.
Had to wonder if ABBA's security was informed at the time the guy was
just an actor, filming a fictional accounting of ABBA's Australian
tour?
> That said, I like the movie and some of those non-ABBA bits anyway.
I'm okay with the movie and some non-ABBA bits as well although
perhaps what they should've done was made two movies at the same time:
a fictional musical comedy (similar to "A Hard Day's Night") using the
songs from "ABBA: The Album" and a documentary of the Australian tour.
Twice as much ABBA and still something which hadn't been tried before
(I don't think).
Re: ABBA: The Movie-See You In September:
> **Hell yea, I'll be in the store on Tuesday. The souvenir program is
> the Aussie 77 program most likely. I've never seen one of those. I
> have a couple of 79s.
>
Believe on the link you provided, it mentioned the Universal dvd or
digipack will be available in September and not this coming Tuesday,
which was the date for the Warners release, obviously now cancelled. No
matter, when it's finally released, I'll be there standing in the line.
Have to wonder if there will be any store-specific, limited time
promotions from Universal, such as a bonus disc with unseen film
footage or a cd featuring a few complete performances of the songs in
the movie? Universal has done that in the past with the Bee Gees and I
think they've also done it for the Moody Blues.
Course, Benny and Bjorn would have to give their okay for any such
promotion. Hasn't been mentioned but still, I'll be checking out the
Target and Best Buy stores, which tend to be the stores which receive
limited time bonus disc promotions.
kaboom
> Critic's Choice was the company which sent the catalog and they have
>a website -- www.ccvideo.com. I don't know if they still have a listing
>and artwork for ABBA's movie on their website before Universal snagged
>the rights away from Warners. It's possible it could still be up but
>even if it's not, the site is worth checking as they have some good
>prices on the dvds, including a deal on dvds from Paramount: buy 2 (at
>$11.21) and get a third title free.
**I used to buy their catalogs to use as reference and then when DVDs
exploded, I couldn't keep up so I stopped buying those and Widescreen
monthly type magazine. I think dvdempire.com is pretty good. I don't
necessarily look for the cheapest, just decent prices and reliable
service. Around my area are Best Buy, Circuit City, Target and Walmart
and they pretty much compete. I just take the flyer with the lowest
price and go to Walmart ('cause it's closest) and they price-match. If
it's an ABBA DVD, I just go straight to Circuit City on Tuesday and,
normally, they'll always have it.
<re Throw Mamma Mia from the Train>
> I'm the same: "Mamma Mia" is ABBA-related via Benny and Bjorn (and
>Stig) having written the songs and by Agnetha and Frida having sung the
>songs originally. But the stage play is Benny's and Bjorn's success,
>has been for years now, so why does Universal feel the need to keep
>plugging the play? Oh, of course, they got 50% of the publishing in
>addition to the rights to original ABBA recordings and maybe they have
>to work a deal to gain approval from Benny and Bjorn on the recordings,
>whether audio or visual.
**Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!
>Still, I think one more plug for "Mamma Mia"
>and I'm going to shoot the dvd player and TV.
**Shoot Universal, you'll feel better.
>Last year, I picked up Olivia's rarely seen movie, "Sordid
>Lives" on dvd and it featured interviews with the writer and producer
>as well as a couple of outtakes of Olivia's performances from the
>movie. I felt bad for Olivia and the rest of the cast after watching it
>- the late Ed Wood could've done it better! As for the writer and
>producer (or director), they should've done their interviews with their
>faces obscured by darkness.
**Hahaha! Maybe a Mystery Science Theater-type roasting is in the
offing!
>I wouldn't want the world to know I wasted
>perfectly good film on crap like "Sordid Lives."
**She was in a movie called "Sordid Lives?" :-/ I didn't even know
that. Musta sucked marshmallows. Well, you have to admit "Xanadu" is
no great shakes either. It does sport a really awesome soundtrack,
however.
>Re: ABBA: The Alternate Movie:
> I'd rather have seen footage of the concert with complete
>performances of the songs on disc two, more like an alternate version
>of the movie. I didn't think that the original movie's mix of fiction
>and documentary worked very well together. I'm not sure the blending of
>fiction and documentary had ever been tried in a movie before. The
>documentary side was okay but the fictional side needed a little bit of
>work.
**I'd like to have seen more care taken with the DVD release and to
have been given a really cool ABBA The Movie DVD set containing stuff
like: Alternate blah blah, outtakes, all that and a bag of chips.
>> You don't like:
>>
>> Little-Australian-Girl-That-Thinks-They're-Sexy: The Movie?
>
> That scene was okay, the fan reaction being kind of what you'd expect
>to see in a documentary. Even if the scene was staged and the girl was
>given lines to read, it would still have been believable.
**My vote: Girl was genuine.
>> Aussie-Cab-Driver-Offended-By-Agnetha's-Ass: The Movie?
>
> LMAO. I've always thought there had to be something wrong with that
>Aussie cabbie if he was offended by Agnetha's derriere. Was he for real
>or was he given lines?
**My vote: Guy was actor.
>> Ashley-The-Loser-Wandering-Aimlessly: The Movie?
>>
> I kept hoping a huge sinkhole would've opened up and consumed Ashley
>into an abyss where we'd never seen him again. The very thin plotline
>of an Australian country(!) disc jockey trying to get an interview with
>ABBA needed to be fleshed out and made more believable. A country DJ
>interviewing a pop group? Get outta here! And it didn't make sense not
>telling ABBA until the last minute who this actor was who was following
>them around and stalking them, just so their reactions would be genuine
>at seeing him pop up wherever they happened to be. In retrospect, it
>may not have been such a wise thing to do for ABBA or for the actor.
>Had to wonder if ABBA's security was informed at the time the guy was
>just an actor, filming a fictional accounting of ABBA's Australian
>tour?
**My vote: This movie had the tiniest storyboard ever.
>> That said, I like the movie and some of those non-ABBA bits anyway.
>
> I'm okay with the movie and some non-ABBA bits as well although
>perhaps what they should've done was made two movies at the same time:
>a fictional musical comedy (similar to "A Hard Day's Night") using the
>songs from "ABBA: The Album" and a documentary of the Australian tour.
>Twice as much ABBA and still something which hadn't been tried before
>(I don't think).
**ABBA the Movie should stand as it was made and THEN you have a TV
documentary of the tour.
>Re: ABBA: The Movie-See You In September:
>
>> **Hell yea, I'll be in the store on Tuesday. The souvenir program is
>> the Aussie 77 program most likely. I've never seen one of those. I
>> have a couple of 79s.
>>
> Believe on the link you provided, it mentioned the Universal dvd or
>digipack will be available in September and not this coming Tuesday,
**My "on Tuesday" comment was not meant for this particular Tuesday.
It's just that Tuesday is the release date for all new CDs and DVDs.
That said, I will be going to get the Studio Ghibli releases: "Pom
Poko" and "My Neighbors the Yamadas" this week. Sweet! Last week, I
bought Kung Fu Hustle and Carpenters Gold <---had a gift card to blow
at Walmart.
>which was the date for the Warners release, obviously now cancelled. No
>matter, when it's finally released, I'll be there standing in the line.
>Have to wonder if there will be any store-specific, limited time
>promotions from Universal, such as a bonus disc with unseen film
>footage or a cd featuring a few complete performances of the songs in
>the movie? Universal has done that in the past with the Bee Gees and I
>think they've also done it for the Moody Blues.
**You mean like a Best Buy bonus disc? You know what'll be on such a
bonus disc, don't you? Mammmmmmmmma Miaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Musical Bits.
> Course, Benny and Bjorn would have to give their okay for any such
>promotion. Hasn't been mentioned but still, I'll be checking out the
>Target and Best Buy stores, which tend to be the stores which receive
>limited time bonus disc promotions.
**Oh, I see you mentioned Best Buy, nevermind :)
kaboomie
abb...@gmail.com
Björn and Lena Ulvaeus were called in for an urgent meeting with the
doctor. In the consultation room they received the terrible
information: Lena has incurable and deadly leukemia.
Now they exclusively tell Expressen about the struggle against time.
- We don't plan for the future, I probably won't be alive in ten years.
You try to suppress the disease, we take each day as it comes, says
Lena.
Two years ago Lena Ulvaeus, 55, discovered she had four hazelnut-sized
lumps in her neck.
- It happened suddenly, but right away I realized it wasn't normal. I
had been sweating a lot at night before, but I thought it was due to
menopause.
The first test didn't reveal anything. But Lena convinced her doctor to
get a referral to Danderyds sjukhus (hospital) for a bone marrow test.
One day they called from the hospital and said that the doctor wanted
to meet her as soon as possible.
- Then I said to Björn that this doesn't sound good, this isn't
benign, says Lena.
It's incurable
At the hospital she received the dramatic information: You have chronic
lymphatic leukemia and it's incurable.
- We collapsed, both Björn and I. We just grabbed each other. After we
had walked out of there, it was as if we were out of it. It has been a
long process to deal with the information. At first I couldn't believe
it was true. Then I laid there in despair, I couldn't sleep and thought
about dying.
- In a way you get used to it. People say that you're brave, but it's
not like that. I don't have a choice. I can roll around and scream at
the top of my lungs, but it won't help at all, says Lena.
Lena's cancer has put a lot of strain on her family.
- It's terrible. We live with the disease, I think about it every day.
And that I can't do anything about it, Björn says and adds:
- The best moments are when you forget about it.
Can't say
The doctors can't say how much time she has left. Lena can become ill
and die in 6 months - or in twelve years.
- The worst thing is to wake up at three in the morning and start
thinking about how much time I have left. I'm happily married. It is so
sad to know that we won't grow old together, she says.
Right now Lena is feeling quite good, despite dizziness and sweating.
She does the things she usually do but at a slower pace.
The family's support is the most important
- Things go up and down. There are days when I'm very tired and feel
lousy. Sometimes I get dizzy and have to hold on to Björn while we're
out walking.
Since the disease is incurable, there is no treatment until the
symptoms appear. Because of that, Lena has chosen not to get the
monthly routine check-ups. They just made her worried and she had a
different doctor each time.
- You sit there in the waiting room like a scared rabbit and wait to
hear how sick you are. I felt much better not having to deal with those
damn blood tests. I'll go when I get ill.
Lena thinks that the support from her family is the most important
thing. Björn is constantly by her side. The four adult children have
also dealt with it well, Lena thinks.
- The children knows it's true, but I think they suppress it. There's
no other way to deal with it. You can't fret about it the time you have
left.
The death sentence has made Lena ponder more about life and its
conditions.
You become more truthful
- You become different as a person when you have a limited time left.
You can't be mean towards anyone, you probable become kinder and more
truthful, she says and laughs.
Lena praises the nursing staff, but is critical towards the
organization with constant changes of doctors, the wait and
consultation rooms closed for the summer.
- It's crazy. It's the politicians' fault, the health care sector needs
enough resources.
Now the Ulvaeus couple hope that Lena's story will help others.
- Most people have never heard about this disease and that it's
incurable. I wish that the research will continue, Lena says.
By Anna Bäsén
Facts/Lena Ulvaeus
Family: Husband Björn, 60 years old, who she's been married to since
1981.
Together they have the daughters Emma, 23, and Anna, 19. The bonus
children
Linda, 32, and Christian, 28, from Björn's earlier marriage with
Agnetha
Fältskog. The bonus grandchild Tilda, 4, Linda's daughter.
Lives: In the house Vågaskär on Djursholm in Stockholm. The family
also have two summer houses on Viggsö in Stockholm's archipelago.
Occupation: Freelances in the advertising field as a copywriter.
abb...@gmail.com
infiniteman
> **I used to buy their catalogs to use as reference and then when DVDs
> exploded, I couldn't keep up so I stopped buying those and Widescreen
> monthly type magazine. I think dvdempire.com is pretty good. I don't
> necessarily look for the cheapest, just decent prices and reliable
> service. Around my area are Best Buy, Circuit City, Target and Walmart
> and they pretty much compete. I just take the flyer with the lowest
> price and go to Walmart ('cause it's closest) and they price-match. If
> it's an ABBA DVD, I just go straight to Circuit City on Tuesday and,
> normally, they'll always have it.
>
usually means Best Buy or Wal-Mart. That's because although I go in
with the intent of buying one particular dvd (or cd for that matter),
if I see something else I may want, there's a good chance I'll pick up
other titles or recordings as well. Guess that makes me an impulsive
buyer? Spending more than $150 on dvds and cds isn't that unusual for
me. I don't really do a lot of shopping and as such, I don't know
what's really available until I'm shopping in the stores.
Sometimes, I shop at Target as they sometimes get the bonus disc
promotions but overall, I don't like shopping there as their selections
in dvds and cds is usually limited to the very recent stuff. Sometimes,
I like finding an old movie on dvd or an old album reissued on cd. I'd
rather watch the original version of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" than
the recent remake. Oh, I know the remake may be 1000x better than
original in terms of money spent on production but money spent doesn't
make the movie an improvement over the original.
Re: I'll Take What's Behind Curtain #3:
> <re Throw Mamma Mia from the Train>
> **Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!
>
Lol! What's my prize?
Re: Mamma Mia Plugs or Universal, Which Do I Choose To Shoot?:
> >Still, I think one more plug for "Mamma Mia"
> >and I'm going to shoot the dvd player and TV.
>
> **Shoot Universal, you'll feel better.
>
So hard to decide. Universal didn't create "Mamma Mia" but they
profit from it and obviously they're the ones placing the plugs for
"Mamma Mia" on the various ABBA packages in an effort to please Benny
and Bjorn. It's so easy to take it out in the tv and dvd player
though...no one gets hurt execpt my bank account when I have to replace
the tv and dvd player. So, I guess the tv and dvd player will lose
again! (Cartoon image of tv and dvd player blindolfded, up against the
wall and smoking last cigarette before facing the firing squad...)
Re: Sordid Writers:
> **Hahaha! Maybe a Mystery Science Theater-type roasting is in the
> offing!
>
Think what would really be appropriate would be making the guy watch
what he wrote, over and over until the end of time. I used to think
Earl Owensby "wrote" and produced some bad movies -- Owensby didn't
really "write" any of his movies. He improvised all the dialogue and
action on the spot -- the writer of "Sordid Lives" should've took a few
pointers from him. Might've helped the movie. (Course, Owensby still
has his crime against humanity to account for -- he foisted actor Gil
Gerard on an unsuspecting world.)
Re: Sordid Olivia:
>
> **She was in a movie called "Sordid Lives?" :-/ I didn't even know
> that. Musta sucked marshmallows. Well, you have to admit "Xanadu" is
> no great shakes either. It does sport a really awesome soundtrack,
> however.
>
Olivia does seem to have the knack to choose some rather forgettable
roles. Doesn't help her career when she does as Hollywood tends to
forget when you're in a hit but they damn well remember when you make a
flop. As it was, Olivia was barely in "Sordid Lives." She was supposed
to be playing a Texas country singer who's also a lesbian -- Olivia
wrote most of the songs including the title song, which featured some
rather strong profanity. When the song is performed in a bar scene the
movie, they have a bunch of extras sitting at tables with sh*t-eating
grins on their faces, helping Olivia sing the song. All waiting for
their close-ups.
And although Olivia's character was promoted before the film's
theatrical release as a lesbian and also in the promotion for the dvd
as a lesbian, you don't see Olivia engaged in any lesbian scenes. You
wonder why they even bothered? And after singing a song with some
pretty strong cuss words in them, it's even more startling that Olivia
in the same movie tackles an old gospel song, "Will the Circle Be
Unbroken." This is one movie Olivia should've said no thanks to...it
was truly bad.
Re: Fan versions of "ABBA: The Movie:"
> **I'd like to have seen more care taken with the DVD release and to
> have been given a really cool ABBA The Movie DVD set containing stuff
> like: Alternate blah blah, outtakes, all that and a bag of chips.
>
Pity Universal (or Warners before them) didn't query the fans, asking
them what they'd like to see...as far as a dvd limited edition with
some bonuses. Instead of reproducing the souvenir tour book as a bonus
feature on the dvd, I would've reproduced the book itself and made that
available to the first 2500 fans buying the dvd. Alternate scenes,
deleted scenes and throw in a coupon good for a free pizza and a
two-liter soft drink redeemable at your favorite pizza
retailer...course, Universal probably wouldn't like that expense eating
up their profits but they would be making so much money from the deluxe
edition anyway and they could write it off on their taxes at the end of
the year, so why not a "Party with ABBA" promotion?
Re: Genuine or Make Believe In "ABBA: The Movie:"
> >> Little-Australian-Girl-That-Thinks-They're-Sexy: The Movie?
> >
> > That scene was okay...
>
> **My vote: Girl was genuine.
>
Thought the movie needed more genuine fan scenes as opposed to an
actor hired to say a few lines.
> >> Aussie-Cab-Driver-Offended-By-Agnetha's-Ass: The Movie?
>>
> **My vote: Guy was actor.
I hope so; hate to think the guy was genuine and truly offended by
Agnetha's ass. Agnetha was allegedly bothered by the attention focused
on her bottom yet in one scene of the movie, she's giving the audience
what they want to see. I've always wondered if that scene was filmed
before a mention was made about her bottom?
>
Re: The "ABBA: The Movie" Storyboard:
>
> **My vote: This movie had the tiniest storyboard ever.
>
Whoever wrote the movie should've been required to have given the
money back as they were taking the money under false pretenses.
Re: ABBA: The Movie and ABBA: The TV Event:
> **ABBA the Movie should stand as it was made and THEN you have a TV
> documentary of the tour.
>
I'm surprised that none of the networks ever approached ABBA for a
documentary or TV special. The networks had signed several artists in
the late 70s for TV specials but very few of them were actually
produced...some did get produced but then weren't even shown by the
networks. Why spend the money and waste the film if in the end, you're
going to shelve it?
Re: Tuesday afternoon.....
> **My "on Tuesday" comment was not meant for this particular Tuesday.
> It's just that Tuesday is the release date for all new CDs and DVDs.
> That said, I will be going to get the Studio Ghibli releases: "Pom
> Poko" and "My Neighbors the Yamadas" this week. Sweet! Last week, I
> bought Kung Fu Hustle and Carpenters Gold <---had a gift card to blow
> at Walmart.
>
Dang, girl, you got me! Kung Fu Hustle -- is that a movie or a cd? I
remember a song or two with a mention of kung fu in the lyrics but I
remember all those bad kung fu movies in the 70s that people went nuts
over. There was one guy I remember who was always carrying around
home-made nung-chucks or whatever they were called. Thought he was such
a pro with them until he had an accident with them and became a
soprano.
Hmm, the Carpenters. They did quite a few things I liked but in those
days they were one of those acts which weren't considered cool to like,
so you had to play their records when no one was around. Most of their
stuff has held up over time, something which can't be said for other
artists, particularly the artists you could like who were then cool in
the 70s.
Re: Bonus disc disappointments:
> **You mean like a Best Buy bonus disc? You know what'll be on such a
> bonus disc, don't you? Mammmmmmmmma Miaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Musical Bits.
>
Ugh, that's probably what they will do if a bonus disc is made
available. Hadn't thought of that. Let's just hope no one from
Universal or from Polar Music is reading our posts, snap their fingers
and say out loud, "That's the ticket! Musical bits from "Mamma Mia,"
why didn't we think of this before?"
Kevin Sanderson
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lengthy conversation with kaboomicus :)
>
>> >> Aussie-Cab-Driver-Offended-By-Agnetha's-Ass: The Movie?
>>>
>> **My vote: Guy was actor.
>
> I hope so; hate to think the guy was genuine and truly offended by
> Agnetha's ass. Agnetha was allegedly bothered by the attention focused
> on her bottom yet in one scene of the movie, she's giving the audience
> what they want to see. I've always wondered if that scene was filmed
> before a mention was made about her bottom?
>>
She jokes about it in the recent documentary. She had been doing the
turn-around-dance-with-her-back- to-the-camera-audience for years as well as
other groups and singers. You see her doing it in German and US TV
appearances as far back as 1974-1975-1976. The press conference where she
was asked about her having "won the award" was before the shows. The hotel
room scene where they are discussing it was filmed later in Sweden according
to one source I've read.
The surly bodyguard, bartender/waiter (in the Name of the Game segment) and
the taxi driver were all played by Tom Oliver.
Kevin
Circuit City scams!
You can do better shopping on on the net. They ar emany places now
that offer free shipping and no sales tax. Plus you don' thave to
spend you money on high gas prices!
IMO, Circuit City's business model sucks!
Samuel Gilster
Samuel
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infiniteman
> turn-around-dance-with-her-back- to-the-camera-audience for years as well as
> other groups and singers. You see her doing it in German and US TV
> appearances as far back as 1974-1975-1976. The press conference where she
> was asked about her having "won the award" was before the shows. The hotel
> room scene where they are discussing it was filmed later in Sweden according
> to one source I've read.
>
I've always thought it amusing that although Agnetha appeared to be
put off at winning such an award, it didn't stop her from dancing with
her back to the camera or to the audience. Obviously, she wasn't too
upset with the award as she was still doing it in the shows. Have to
wonder though if Frida felt a twinge of jealousy? Much as I loved
watching Agnetha dance and shaking her fabulous buns, Frida always
appeared to be much more uninhibited than Agnetha with her dance moves.
Course, it may be that Agnetha was just as uninhibited as what Frida
was and maybe they just didn't film all of Agnetha's moves.
> The surly bodyguard, bartender/waiter (in the Name of the Game segment) and
> the taxi driver were all played by Tom Oliver.
Hmm, think I recall the TCM host (can't remember his name, lol)
mentioning that fact. Will have to dig our the videotape when I have
the time and check that out. As it is, that has me wondering: when did
ABBA know their surly bodyguard was an actor? If Stig or Lasse didn't
tell ABBA the guy playing Ashley was an actor, just so their surprised
reaction would be more natural, what would their reaction have been
upon discovering the bodyguard was an actor?Assuming those scenes in
which Oliver is seen with ABBA weren't staged. Think that would had to
have been a little disconcerting if it wasn't staged and they thought
the guy was a real bodyguard.
Kevin Sanderson
> > She jokes about it in the recent documentary. She had been doing the
>
>> turn-around-dance-with-her-back- to-the-camera-audience for years as well
>> as
>> other groups and singers. You see her doing it in German and US TV
>> appearances as far back as 1974-1975-1976. The press conference where she
>> was asked about her having "won the award" was before the shows. The
>> hotel
>> room scene where they are discussing it was filmed later in Sweden
>> according
>> to one source I've read.
>>
> I've always thought it amusing that although Agnetha appeared to be
> put off at winning such an award, it didn't stop her from dancing with
> her back to the camera or to the audience. Obviously, she wasn't too
> upset with the award as she was still doing it in the shows. Have to
> wonder though if Frida felt a twinge of jealousy? Much as I loved
> watching Agnetha dance and shaking her fabulous buns, Frida always
> appeared to be much more uninhibited than Agnetha with her dance moves.
> Course, it may be that Agnetha was just as uninhibited as what Frida
> was and maybe they just didn't film all of Agnetha's moves.
I never thought Agnetha was inhibited. ;)
>
>> The surly bodyguard, bartender/waiter (in the Name of the Game segment)
>> and
>> the taxi driver were all played by Tom Oliver.
>
> Hmm, think I recall the TCM host (can't remember his name, lol)
> mentioning that fact. Will have to dig our the videotape when I have
> the time and check that out.
You'll see him listed as 3 of those in the credits, but he was also the
waiter or butler when Ashley walks into the "dining room" and the nice sit
down dinner...
As it is, that has me wondering: when did
> ABBA know their surly bodyguard was an actor? If Stig or Lasse didn't
> tell ABBA the guy playing Ashley was an actor, just so their surprised
> reaction would be more natural, what would their reaction have been
> upon discovering the bodyguard was an actor?Assuming those scenes in
> which Oliver is seen with ABBA weren't staged. Think that would had to
> have been a little disconcerting if it wasn't staged and they thought
> the guy was a real bodyguard.
>
Well he wasn't originally introduced to the real security people as an actor
according to CMP so who knows?
kaboom
<kevinsanderson...@sbcnospamglobal.net> wrote:
>She jokes about it in the recent documentary. She had been doing the
>turn-around-dance-with-her-back- to-the-camera-audience for years as well as
>other groups and singers. You see her doing it in German and US TV
>appearances as far back as 1974-1975-1976. The press conference where she
>was asked about her having "won the award" was before the shows. The hotel
>room scene where they are discussing it was filmed later in Sweden according
>to one source I've read.
**Even more importantly: Where the hell have you been? :)
kaboomie
kaboom
> I've always thought it amusing that although Agnetha appeared to be
>put off at winning such an award, it didn't stop her from dancing with
>her back to the camera or to the audience. Obviously, she wasn't too
>upset with the award as she was still doing it in the shows. Have to
**She knew what she was doing, c'mon Agnetha, we know you're a brazen
hussy! They are really the most uninhibited people. I remember once I
walked out on the balcony on my dorm floor (in school in Lund) and
there was Gunilla happily frying in the noon day sun...almost
completely naked. They were a lovely bunch of coconuts though, I must
admit.
>wonder though if Frida felt a twinge of jealousy? Much as I loved
>watching Agnetha dance and shaking her fabulous buns, Frida always
>appeared to be much more uninhibited than Agnetha with her dance moves.
>Course, it may be that Agnetha was just as uninhibited as what Frida
>was and maybe they just didn't film all of Agnetha's moves.
**Blonde hair and blue eyes are tops all over the world. We brunettes
are quite used to it. I'm convinced that brunettes have coined most of
the blonde jokes :)
BlondStar
<Blonde>I've locked my keys in the car!!!!
<Operator> That's okay, ma'am, where are you?
<Blonde> I'm in the car!!
> Hmm, think I recall the TCM host (can't remember his name, lol)
**Robert Osborne?
>mentioning that fact. Will have to dig our the videotape when I have
>the time and check that out. As it is, that has me wondering: when did
>ABBA know their surly bodyguard was an actor? If Stig or Lasse didn't
>tell ABBA the guy playing Ashley was an actor, just so their surprised
>reaction would be more natural, what would their reaction have been
>upon discovering the bodyguard was an actor?Assuming those scenes in
>which Oliver is seen with ABBA weren't staged. Think that would had to
>have been a little disconcerting if it wasn't staged and they thought
>the guy was a real bodyguard.
**I think the only part that wasn't staged was the part where two
filming *parties* got into a fight in the hallway.
kaboomie
kaboom
>Re: Shopping for DVDs:
> I tend to shop around, always looking for the lowest price, which
>usually means Best Buy or Wal-Mart. That's because although I go in
>with the intent of buying one particular dvd (or cd for that matter),
>if I see something else I may want, there's a good chance I'll pick up
>other titles or recordings as well. Guess that makes me an impulsive
>buyer? Spending more than $150 on dvds and cds isn't that unusual for
>me. I don't really do a lot of shopping and as such, I don't know
>what's really available until I'm shopping in the stores.
**Howdy do! I'm on vacation and I went DVD/CD shopping today. Didn't
find any DVDs but I snagged a few CDs. Sadly, in this part of CT, you
have to drive out a half hour or more to find a BestBuy or Borders.
And the prices are expensive, no competition like back in MI.
I bought: Sara Evans 'Restless'; Nikka Costa 'Can'tNeverDidNothin';
Jamie Cullum 'twentysomething'; Smash Mouth 'All Star Greatest Hits';
and The Smithereens 'From New Jersey It Came: The Smithereens
Anthology.' <----took me forever to find.
So far, Jamie Cullum (excellent, highly recommended) and Sara Evans.
Now Sara's country but she has a good voice and I find that it's not
super twangy. I recommend it. Oh yea, I listed to Smash Mouth and you
either like 'em or you don't. I liked it.
> Sometimes, I shop at Target as they sometimes get the bonus disc
>promotions but overall, I don't like shopping there as their selections
>in dvds and cds is usually limited to the very recent stuff. Sometimes,
>I like finding an old movie on dvd or an old album reissued on cd. I'd
**Yes, but I love Target. I really doooooooooooooooo :) For other
stuff, mainly, the CD/DVD sections are severely limited. Occasionally,
I've gotten good DVD deals though.
>rather watch the original version of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" than
>the recent remake. Oh, I know the remake may be 1000x better than
>original in terms of money spent on production but money spent doesn't
>make the movie an improvement over the original.
**Can I not watch either Massacres? :)
>Re: I'll Take What's Behind Curtain #3:
>> <re Throw Mamma Mia from the Train>
>
>> **Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!
>>
> Lol! What's my prize?
**A year's supply of Rice-a-Roni, what else?
>Re: Mamma Mia Plugs or Universal, Which Do I Choose To Shoot?:
<snip>
>It's so easy to take it out in the tv and dvd player
>though...no one gets hurt execpt my bank account when I have to replace
>the tv and dvd player. So, I guess the tv and dvd player will lose
>again! (Cartoon image of tv and dvd player blindolfded, up against the
>wall and smoking last cigarette before facing the firing squad...)
**What would you like on your Tombstone? Pepperoni.
Anyone remember that commercial? huh huh?
>Re: Sordid Olivia:
> Olivia does seem to have the knack to choose some rather forgettable
>roles. Doesn't help her career when she does as Hollywood tends to
>forget when you're in a hit but they damn well remember when you make a
>flop. As it was, Olivia was barely in "Sordid Lives." She was supposed
>to be playing a Texas country singer who's also a lesbian -- Olivia
>wrote most of the songs including the title song, which featured some
>rather strong profanity. When the song is performed in a bar scene the
>movie, they have a bunch of extras sitting at tables with sh*t-eating
>grins on their faces, helping Olivia sing the song. All waiting for
>their close-ups.
> And although Olivia's character was promoted before the film's
>theatrical release as a lesbian and also in the promotion for the dvd
>as a lesbian, you don't see Olivia engaged in any lesbian scenes.
**Well, of course, that's why the movie sucked! Anyway, I recorded
that '78 Olivia Newton John show for my cousin. He loves stuff from
the 70s. He's in his early to mid 20s. Official verdict: He *loved*
it! We watched it last night. Olivia's voice is nothing short of
spectacular! Though the cheese factor is VERY high. I think the copy
is pretty damn good. Do you have or want a copy? When I get back, I'll
be putting it to the HD then burning DVDs. I can put it on VHS if you
prefer.
>You
>wonder why they even bothered? And after singing a song with some
>pretty strong cuss words in them, it's even more startling that Olivia
>in the same movie tackles an old gospel song, "Will the Circle Be
>Unbroken." This is one movie Olivia should've said no thanks to...it
>was truly bad.
**I do like that song though (Will the Circle...).
>Re: Fan versions of "ABBA: The Movie:"
> Pity Universal (or Warners before them) didn't query the fans, asking
>them what they'd like to see...as far as a dvd limited edition with
>some bonuses. Instead of reproducing the souvenir tour book as a bonus
>feature on the dvd, I would've reproduced the book itself and made that
>available to the first 2500 fans buying the dvd. Alternate scenes,
>deleted scenes and throw in a coupon good for a free pizza and a
>two-liter soft drink redeemable at your favorite pizza
>retailer...course, Universal probably wouldn't like that expense eating
>up their profits but they would be making so much money from the deluxe
>edition anyway and they could write it off on their taxes at the end of
>the year, so why not a "Party with ABBA" promotion?
**Is this part of the resume that I hope you sent to Universal? Thank
you.
>> >> Aussie-Cab-Driver-Offended-By-Agnetha's-Ass: The Movie?
>>>
>> **My vote: Guy was actor.
>
> I hope so; hate to think the guy was genuine and truly offended by
>Agnetha's ass. Agnetha was allegedly bothered by the attention focused
>on her bottom yet in one scene of the movie, she's giving the audience
>what they want to see. I've always wondered if that scene was filmed
>before a mention was made about her bottom?
**No idea, and she'd be lying if she said that she didn't know it
would cause a fuss. And, you know what, Frida has a nice ass, too!
>Re: The "ABBA: The Movie" Storyboard:
>>
>> **My vote: This movie had the tiniest storyboard ever.
>>
> Whoever wrote the movie should've been required to have given the
>money back as they were taking the money under false pretenses.
**LOL, yea!
>Re: ABBA: The Movie and ABBA: The TV Event:
>> **ABBA the Movie should stand as it was made and THEN you have a TV
>> documentary of the tour.
>>
> I'm surprised that none of the networks ever approached ABBA for a
>documentary or TV special. The networks had signed several artists in
>the late 70s for TV specials but very few of them were actually
>produced...some did get produced but then weren't even shown by the
>networks. Why spend the money and waste the film if in the end, you're
>going to shelve it?
**I bet they were approached quite often, I happen to think they
weren't interested in doing EVERYTHING thrown at them. Not such a bad
idea, as you can see by those played out singers like JLo and Broccoli
Spears.
>Re: Tuesday afternoon.....
>> **My "on Tuesday" comment was not meant for this particular Tuesday.
>> It's just that Tuesday is the release date for all new CDs and DVDs.
>> That said, I will be going to get the Studio Ghibli releases: "Pom
>> Poko" and "My Neighbors the Yamadas" this week. Sweet! Last week, I
>> bought Kung Fu Hustle and Carpenters Gold <---had a gift card to blow
>> at Walmart.
>>
> Dang, girl, you got me! Kung Fu Hustle -- is that a movie or a cd? I
**Kung Fu Hustle is a movie. Carpenters Gold is also a DVD.
>remember a song or two with a mention of kung fu in the lyrics but I
**Everyone was Kung Fu Fighting! Carl Douglas.
>remember all those bad kung fu movies in the 70s that people went nuts
>over. There was one guy I remember who was always carrying around
>home-made nung-chucks or whatever they were called. Thought he was such
>a pro with them until he had an accident with them and became a
>soprano.
**He's not a soprano, he just happened to knock his jewels up around
his neck. His family thinks he just has big earlobes. :) La la laaaaa!
> Hmm, the Carpenters. They did quite a few things I liked but in those
>days they were one of those acts which weren't considered cool to like,
>so you had to play their records when no one was around. Most of their
>stuff has held up over time, something which can't be said for other
>artists, particularly the artists you could like who were then cool in
>the 70s.
**Despite the schlocky tunes, Karen Carpenter's voice is a gift from
god. Too bad she didn't realize that. I love 70s music!
kaboomie
infiniteman
Re: Agnetha: Me? Inhibited??:
> I never thought Agnetha was inhibited. ;)
>
70s, I don't know. Watching her dance moves in the "Mamma Mia" video,
she looks nervous and unsure of herself and at one point, looks over at
Frida, who is very sure of herself. Course, in the concert footage and
in the video for "Voulez-vous," Agnetha is very uninhibited and looks
like she's having a ball. Course, maybe she always was and they just
didn't capture that in the earlier videos.
Re: With Tom Oliver as...and...and...:
> You'll see him listed as 3 of those in the credits, but he was also the
> waiter or butler when Ashley walks into the "dining room" and the nice sit
> down dinner...
Did Oliver think he was Peter Sellers or was his roles something of a
joke or did they not have enough in the budget to hire a few more
actors to play the roles?
Re: Faux Security: False Security:
> Well he wasn't originally introduced to the real security people as an actor
> according to CMP so who knows?
Unreal. So, here you had two actors with very few people within the
ABBA organization knowing who they were or what they were doing. That
was something which had the potential to go wrong and while I can
understand why they wanted ABBA's reactions to be natural, just
thinking of what could've gone wrong (such as a crazed fan similar to
Mark Chapman somehow gaining access to ABBA) gives me the shivers.
Thankfully, nothing did go wrong.
infiniteman
> **She knew what she was doing, c'mon Agnetha, we know you're a brazen
> hussy!
No, she's completely innocent and naive!
> They are really the most uninhibited people. I remember once I
> walked out on the balcony on my dorm floor (in school in Lund) and
> there was Gunilla happily frying in the noon day sun...almost
> completely naked. They were a lovely bunch of coconuts though, I must
> admit.
>
Hmm, do you have any photos of Gunilla happily frying in the noon day
sun you wouldn't mind sharing? (Ducking for the safety of my foxhole in
an undisclosed location, lol.)
Re: Blonde and Blue All Over the World:
> **Blonde hair and blue eyes are tops all over the world. We brunettes
> are quite used to it. I'm convinced that brunettes have coined most of
> the blonde jokes :)
>
I'm pretty sure the dark-haired people have coined most of the blonde
jokes. I know I've made up quite a few just to annoy my younger sister,
who's blonde haired and blue eyed and the only lefty in the family. I
was actually born a lefty as well and wrote with my left hand before I
started school but was pressured at school into writing with my right.
never understood why.
> BlondStar
>
> <Blonde>I've locked my keys in the car!!!!
> <Operator> That's okay, ma'am, where are you?
> <Blonde> I'm in the car!!
>
Lmao! Love this one and even better, it's intergender...most of the
blonde jokes are directed at blonde-haired girls but this is one which
can be directed at a blonde-haired guy as well, which makes it even
funnier.
Re: Jeopardy, Category: Final Jeopardy/Hosts:
> > Hmm, think I recall the TCM host (can't remember his name, lol)
>
> **Robert Osborne?
>
You answered correctly; what was your wager?
Re: Didn't We See This On Pay Per View?:
> **I think the only part that wasn't staged was the part where two
> filming *parties* got into a fight in the hallway.
Lol...picturing this as a giant food fight with ABBA trying to make
it to the concert or their hotel rooms or wherever they were going to
at the time and ultimately, they all get plastered by cream pies,
cakes, mashed potatoes and gravy, you name it, they get hit and then
they start grabbing food to throw in retaliation. Then, Stig and Lasse
walk through the door and they yell at both of them: "This is all your
fault!" Stig and Lasse (sounds like a bloody TV show) don't even
recognized Benny, Bjorn, Agnetha and Frida as they are covered head to
toe with food -- they think it's a group of crazed fans and start
yelling for security for protection but to the rescue comes...(da da da
da da:)...Tom Oliver, thinking it's a scene for the movie. Stig and
Lasse are clobbered by ABBA and afterwards, decide they both need a few
good stiff drinks.
infiniteman
> **Howdy do! I'm on vacation and I went DVD/CD shopping today. Didn't
> find any DVDs but I snagged a few CDs. Sadly, in this part of CT, you
> have to drive out a half hour or more to find a BestBuy or Borders.
> And the prices are expensive, no competition like back in MI.
>
Barnes and Noble, Target or Circuit City here and the nearest stores
are also a half hour away. We have the ubiquitous Wal-Mart and the only
K-Mart in existence in OK and a couple of cd/dvd stores which don't
discount the titles they have and if Wal-Mart and K-Mart don't have it,
the cd/dvd stores sell them for the full price and you either pay the
price if you want it or spend fifteen dollars for gas to drive to
Oklahoma City and buy it cheaper through the Best Buys or Targets or
Circuit Citys. If you have the patience and can stand the wait, you can
usually buy something cheaper through mail order. Expensive as gas has
become, ordering a cd or dvd through the mail has become my preferred
choice.
Re: New Purchases:
> I bought: Sara Evans 'Restless'; Nikka Costa 'Can'tNeverDidNothin';
> Jamie Cullum 'twentysomething'; Smash Mouth 'All Star Greatest Hits';
> and The Smithereens 'From New Jersey It Came: The Smithereens
> Anthology.' <----took me forever to find.
>
I haven't bought any new cds lately; I've bought a few reissued
recordings including Merilee Rush's 1968 album which contained the
original version of "Angel of the Morning" on it. The reissued album
comes with nine bonus songs including the original non-album "Angel..."
b-side, "Reap What You Sow," which almost alone would make it worth
anyone's time to purchase it. But, there are other great songs and it
was a pity Merilee was a one-hit wonder.
> So far, Jamie Cullum (excellent, highly recommended) and Sara Evans.
> Now Sara's country but she has a good voice and I find that it's not
> super twangy. I recommend it. Oh yea, I listed to Smash Mouth and you
> either like 'em or you don't. I liked it.
>
Okay, I've missed Jamie and Nikka, what do they do that I might've
heard and not realized it? The DJs here still play twenty-five songs in
a row, which takes up almost an hour and then they tell you the names
of the artists long after you've forgotten what you were listening to.
I know who Sara Evans is, don't really see someone from CT into
country...must be the MI influence on you. I'm not much of a country
fan; sometimes, I get interested in a particular artist for a while but
then lose interest. But, it's almost always a female artist and almost
never a male artist, particularly the male country singers whose cowboy
hats are substitute toupees.
Re: Target: Fire At Will!:
> **Yes, but I love Target. I really doooooooooooooooo :) For other
> stuff, mainly, the CD/DVD sections are severely limited. Occasionally,
> I've gotten good DVD deals though.
>
We're starting to get more and more of the Target supercenters - they
want to compete with the Wal-Mart super centers. More power to them.
They have some good deals on dvds, sometimes competing with Wal-Mart on
the $5 dvds of movies that are out of copyright protection or the
studios have offered at rather cheap costs. I dig through those bins
hoping to find something rare but wouldn't you know, the good stuff is
never in those bins. Just hundreds and hundreds of copies of old TV
shows, usually of the Dick van Dyke or Bill Cosby variety. Not the
stuff I want to see the rest of my lifetime.
Re: Saturday Night Texas Massacre:
> **Can I not watch either Massacres? :)
Sure but only if you eat your spinach and broccoli.
Re: Can I Pick Another Curtain?:
> >Re: I'll Take What's Behind Curtain #3:
> >> <re Throw Mamma Mia from the Train>
> >
> >> **Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!
> >>
> > Lol! What's my prize?
>
> **A year's supply of Rice-a-Roni, what else?
>
Yuck! Zonked again! Such is the story of my life. Always wondered if
the people who got a year's supply of Rice-a-Roni ever wanted to cook
it in a big pot with Monty Hall or some other game show host being
cooked up with the rice?
Re: Pizza In A Shoebox:
> **What would you like on your Tombstone? Pepperoni.
>
> Anyone remember that commercial? huh huh?
>
Those commercials still air occasionally here in Oklahoma. I'll take
them over one of the other pizza commercials...can't remember which one
it is but it features four or five guys as a 50s doo-wop group doing an
annoying backing vocal from a 50s song, chowing down on the pizza. If
the Universal plugs for "Mamma Mia" don't get the TV shot, that
commercial will!
Re: Olivia '78 TV Special:
> **Well, of course, that's why the movie sucked! Anyway, I recorded
> that '78 Olivia Newton John show for my cousin. He loves stuff from
> the 70s. He's in his early to mid 20s. Official verdict: He *loved*
> it! We watched it last night. Olivia's voice is nothing short of
> spectacular! Though the cheese factor is VERY high. I think the copy
> is pretty damn good. Do you have or want a copy? When I get back, I'll
> be putting it to the HD then burning DVDs. I can put it on VHS if you
> prefer.
>
Yes, I'd be interested in a copy and I'll be okay with a dvd version.
Think the problem I had was with the dvd player was that it wasn't
equipped to play "home made" dvds. The dvd player I had which fried was
several years old...found out some couldn't handle the newer hardware.
Most of the newer models can handle anything you can throw at them.
Re: Another Surprise:
> **I do like that song though (Will the Circle...).
Are you sure you're from the northeast (and north) and not from the
south? Country and gospel, not what you'd expect to hear from a
northern girl. Still, a pleasant, nice surprise:-)
Re: The Resume I Sent Universal:
>> **Is this part of the resume that I hope you sent to Universal? Thank
> you.
It was; however, I did get the "don't call us, we'll call you" form
letter from them thanking me for expressing interest in seeking PR
employment with Universal. They thought the idea would cost them too
much money and would therefore, not be profitable in the long run. I
thought it was a darn good idea and therefore am staging a hostile
takeover of Universal just so the idea can be implemented. However, at
the Universal office complex, I keep running into an overweight
security guard named Tom Oliver, who keeps denying me entry to the
complex. This is going to be a lot tougher than I thought!
Re: Nice ABBA Buns:
> **No idea, and she'd be lying if she said that she didn't know it
> would cause a fuss. And, you know what, Frida has a nice ass, too!
Always did think that publicly Agnetha protested too much but
privately may have been another matter altogether. Frida definitely has
a nice ass, as does Olivia. Rolling Stone reviewed one of her concerts
and they included a photo of Olivia with her back to the audience and
revealing a very well-rounded bottom. Rolling Stone caught more flack
over that photo from fans and feminists than from their review of her
concert. I don't remember RS making any kind of comments about the
photo and I guess the fans thought the photo was very unflattering. For
RS, it was just par for the course - their review on Olivia was far
more damning than the photo and that's where the people should've had
their attention directed.
Re: Please Remit $17,850, Payable to Polar Studios for Fraudulent
Claims:
> > Whoever wrote the movie should've been required to have given the
> >money back as they were taking the money under false pretenses.
>
> **LOL, yea!
If it had been made in Hollywood or underwritten by one of the
Hollywood studios, I'm reasonably sure Hollywood wouldn't have released
the movie in the version we know now without some kind of rewrite on
the script or filming of additional scenes. It's possible Hollywood
would've jettisoned the fictional scenes and released it as a straight
documentary but rock documentary movies rarely did well at the
theaters. Most were an exercise in waste or pumping the egos of rock
stars who already had huge egos.
Re: ABBA TV Special:
>> **I bet they were approached quite often, I happen to think they
> weren't interested in doing EVERYTHING thrown at them. Not such a bad
> idea, as you can see by those played out singers like JLo and Broccoli
> Spears.
>
Is Broccoli's hair color chedar cheese yellow? LOL, back on subject,
I think it's a pity ABBA didn't make a TV special in the US or at least
contract with the movie or TV studios in California or in London to
give the Euro specials they filmed more of a polish. That one (with
Roxy Music and the luscious Kate Bush) from Austria or Germany or
wherever the hell it was from was poorly produced and looked as if it
all produced in one take. It looked like the producers hired ten year
old kids to film the special. I watch that and wonder how could ABBA
not be embarrassed by the unprofessionalism?
Re: Kung Fu Carpenters:
> **Kung Fu Hustle is a movie. Carpenters Gold is also a DVD.
>
That's what I was thinking on the kung fu title. There were so many
kung fu movies in the 70s, I lost count. Someone should've brought in
Godzilla or Rodan and had them take on the kung fu villains. I'm
surprised they didn't.
Should've remebered about "Carpenters Gold" being a dvd but doesn't
it exist as a cd as well? Much like "ABBA Gold" exists as a dvd and a
cd - and doesn't Universal have the rights on the recordings by
Carpenters as well?
Re: Songs of Kung Fu:
> >remember a song or two with a mention of kung fu in the lyrics but I
>
> **Everyone was Kung Fu Fighting! Carl Douglas.
>
That was one of them...think Douglas had a whole album with kung
fu-themed songs. Like the movies, kind of went overboard. If memory
serves, Douglas also did a remake of the song "Everlasting Love," which
was almost identical to the 60s version. I loved the instrumental
bridge in that song; gives one a good feeling.
Re: And He Grew Up To Be Michael Jackson!:
> **He's not a soprano, he just happened to knock his jewels up around
> his neck. His family thinks he just has big earlobes. :) La la laaaaa!
>
Always thought the guy was doing some kind of drugs or had some sort
of illness. He was a very lightweight person and he got a little too
close to me with his nung-chucks, asking me how would I defend myself
against him and his kung fu sticks? For whatever reason, my reaction
was I picked him up, lifting his entire body above my head and offered
to body slam him. He quickly backed down. I'd be willing to swear he
weighed no more than 90 pounds yet he was around 5'10" or so and about
18 years of age at the time. To this day, I still wonder about what was
going on with that person?
Re: Those Were The Days, My Friend:
> **Despite the schlocky tunes, Karen Carpenter's voice is a gift from
> god. Too bad she didn't realize that. I love 70s music!
I think a lot of the 70s music (and the 60s as well) got a bad rap
from the critics. Course, they were promoting the idea that every song
from a pop or rock artist should have a deep political message or that
every song should be a serious work of art. No fun allowed. Course,
these days, radio stations with a 70s format never play the fun
songs...it's always the serious stuff: Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin,
Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, etc. I'm a fan of those groups or artists but
there's a lot of stuff I haven't heard in years and you can't get that
station or the other metro oldies station to play them.
Luckily, I've discovered another oldies station here which has no
problem playing any oldies as opposed to playing certain titles. This
station definitely has the other oldies station beat. It was quite a
shock to hear them play Harry Chapin's song "Taxi" and both versions of
"One Tin Soldier" (by Coven and by the Original Cast, who had the
original version of the song in 1969). Now, if they would just take
requests...still a problem.
Circuit City scams!
I have had a bad experience with Circuit City. I have been making
posts in a HDTV massage board so I could get help with my Sony KP53HS10
repair. The first tech CC sent out was horrible. He ended up doing
more damage to my set than the original failure which was a D-board.
CC still has not fully fixed my set. They never preformed their
duties under the Extended Service Agreement I paid $399.99 for. If
you ever do buy a product from CC, please do not buy the Extended
Service Agreement. CC will not live up to their promises (contractual
obligations)! I wish I was warmed before I made my purchase. I am now
out $3,000 ($2599.99 + $399.99)!!!
http://hdtv.forsandiego.com/messages/460/3228.html?1123320124
I've learned my lesson the hard way! We, who have been wronged by
Circuit City, must get the truth out!!!
Samuel Gilster
kaboom
<kell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
**And Kelly_vdm SPAMS!
**Do you sit around all day long searching for the words Circuit City
in Usenet posts and then posting the same crap over and over? Why
complain here and in every other NG on the Usenet? Go to the Better
Business Bureau and report CC and also the repair company that they
probably outsource their work to. Write letters to the top people in
the company and your local TV stations Hall-Of-Shame segment. Keep
bothering them and stop spamming the Usenet.
I shop at CC and so far don't have any complaints. Then again, I've
never had to have any contractual work done. I've returned a few items
with no problems and have pricematched there quite often.
kaboomie
Kevin Sanderson
Been working on some other computer stuff in my free time. Made the mistake
of visiting abbasite looking for some info and stumbled across a post
started off by that twit Marnix and his obsessed supporters. A few sane
people like myself posted. They just don't understand how weird they really
appear. I understand being devoted, but having to have everything the group
ever did, warts and all...that's a bit much. Next we know, they'll be
wanting snips of hair, sheets and underwear. Those people are nuts. But you
know that! ;)
Kevin
"kaboom" <kaboo...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:430e5531...@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
Hey kaboomicus! Hiding :)
Been working on some other computer CG stuff in my free time (trying out a
Poser 6 and Vue 5 Infinite combo...have upgraded over the years, but
frustrations with other programs have gained me new frustrations with these,
but at least some progress! Also, new station website in the works along
with more station stuff (concerts, etc.) this summer compared to ever!
Made the mistake of visiting abbasite looking for some info and stumbled
across a post started off by that twit Marnix and his obsessed supporters. A
few sane people like myself posted. They just don't understand how weird
they really appear. I understand being devoted, but having to have
everything the group ever did, warts and all...that's a bit much. Next we
know, they'll be wanting snips of hair, sheets and underwear. Those people
are nuts. But you know that! ;)
Kevin
kaboom
<kevinsanderson...@sbcnospamglobal.net> wrote:
>Hey kaboomicus! Hiding :)
>
>Been working on some other computer CG stuff in my free time (trying out a
>Poser 6 and Vue 5 Infinite combo...have upgraded over the years, but
>frustrations with other programs have gained me new frustrations with these,
>but at least some progress! Also, new station website in the works along
>with more station stuff (concerts, etc.) this summer compared to ever!
**You have free time? Where the heck can I buy some?! Radio stations
have undergone some big changes in SE MI this year. I thought the
change from oldies to whatever for 107.1 was going to SUCK! Instead
they're playing some pretty cool stuff like Ringside, Madeleine
Peyroux (awesome) and Carbon Leaf. I would've never heard those songs
unless this station played them.
>Made the mistake of visiting abbasite looking for some info and stumbled
>across a post started off by that twit Marnix and his obsessed supporters. A
**Recently? I haven't been paying too much attention, I stop by twice
a day or so and look at the forums most recent posts on the front
page. I'm cheesed that I might've missed some queenly drama.
>few sane people like myself posted. They just don't understand how weird
>they really appear. I understand being devoted, but having to have
>everything the group ever did, warts and all...that's a bit much. Next we
**Even worse, people see them then look at the rational fans like us
and raise an eyebrow. Hey man, I'm not with them!
>know, they'll be wanting snips of hair, sheets and underwear. Those people
>are nuts. But you know that! ;)
**They must've loved the bit in Priscilla Queen of the Desert where
they saved a certain something in a glass jar :)
kaboomie
Circuit City scams!
Your pretty close! It is automated for the most part! Sorry if it
bothers you but CC have been using bots to post sales offfers so if
they continue to bots for sales I will bots for BAD word of mouth
posts. I got burned for 3 grand and I plan on getting my moneies
worth. If you think you have seen too many of my posts, just wait!
There will me massive anounts of websites created and link so my posts
will be listed before theirs. I ever print out all the bad posts other
have made about Circuit City and mail them to the legal contact at CC.
I hope to do a consumer segment on radio soon and I am trying to get a
TV spot on a San Franscico Station.
Your lucky you have not had any problems. I have a very expensive door
stop now. I'msue when, not if, when they burn you you will want to get
the word out too. Until then spend all of your money there and just
increase the risk of getting screwed. When they burn you judtdon't
come crying to me. I WARNED YOU! I tried working with these people
for 7 months. I am not someone who slippedthrough the cracks. This is
intentional bad business on their part!
Until it happens to you, you will not relate!
Have a nice day :-)
Kevin Sanderson
"kaboom" <kaboo...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:06:13 GMT, "Kevin Sanderson"
> <kevinsanderson...@sbcnospamglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Hey kaboomicus! Hiding :)
>>
>>Been working on some other computer CG stuff in my free time (trying out a
>>Poser 6 and Vue 5 Infinite combo...have upgraded over the years, but
>>frustrations with other programs have gained me new frustrations with
>>these,
>>but at least some progress! Also, new station website in the works along
>>with more station stuff (concerts, etc.) this summer compared to ever!
>
> **You have free time? Where the heck can I buy some?! Radio stations
> have undergone some big changes in SE MI this year. I thought the
> change from oldies to whatever for 107.1 was going to SUCK! Instead
> they're playing some pretty cool stuff like Ringside, Madeleine
> Peyroux (awesome) and Carbon Leaf. I would've never heard those songs
> unless this station played them.
And with all the new HD2 channels going on and being programmed, even more
stuff to listen to! I'm still waiting for the price of HD radios to come
down a bit more...$249 is the cheapest I've found for a table top model.
More are coming out soon.
>
>>Made the mistake of visiting abbasite looking for some info and stumbled
>>across a post started off by that twit Marnix and his obsessed supporters.
>>A
>
> **Recently? I haven't been paying too much attention, I stop by twice
> a day or so and look at the forums most recent posts on the front
> page. I'm cheesed that I might've missed some queenly drama.
The moderators actually deleted one thread that was getting out of
hand...had tons of posts.
>
>>few sane people like myself posted. They just don't understand how weird
>>they really appear. I understand being devoted, but having to have
>>everything the group ever did, warts and all...that's a bit much. Next we
>
> **Even worse, people see them then look at the rational fans like us
> and raise an eyebrow. Hey man, I'm not with them!
I know the feeling!!!
> kaboomie
>
Kevin
kaboom
<kevinsanderson...@sbcnospamglobal.net> wrote:
>"kaboom" <kaboo...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:430fa410...@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
>> **You have free time? Where the heck can I buy some?! Radio stations
>> have undergone some big changes in SE MI this year. I thought the
>> change from oldies to whatever for 107.1 was going to SUCK! Instead
>> they're playing some pretty cool stuff like Ringside, Madeleine
>> Peyroux (awesome) and Carbon Leaf. I would've never heard those songs
>> unless this station played them.
>
>And with all the new HD2 channels going on and being programmed, even more
>stuff to listen to! I'm still waiting for the price of HD radios to come
>down a bit more...$249 is the cheapest I've found for a table top model.
>More are coming out soon.
**The HD is transmitted free? Does it piggyback on the regular signal?
I was thinking of getting Sirius. My cousin has it and he loves it. We
are both 70s fans but he's 15-16 years younger. I loves the disco
station. I admit, I listen to Howard Stern also. :)
<re Abbasite>
>> **Recently? I haven't been paying too much attention, I stop by twice
>> a day or so and look at the forums most recent posts on the front
>> page. I'm cheesed that I might've missed some queenly drama.
>
>The moderators actually deleted one thread that was getting out of
>hand...had tons of posts.
**Son of a bee sting! This is why moderated forums suck! Now I can't
go read it. I found one thread where you were the voice of reason.
There was also an LT41 (?) who seemed p.o.ed at the madness. I think
it was on the Universal release of the movie. (?) Or maybe it was the
box set that contains everything you already own 10-20x over...and
over.
The thread consisted of people saying: ABBA owe us nothing...um, but,
yes, they do! They know for a fact!!! that all this other audio and
video exists so they MUST release it. They insist that since record
companies released the sounds of Paul McCartney brushing his teeth in
'66 and Elvis farting the Star Spangled Banner in '54 that ABBA should
also release EH-VER-EE-THANG.
The fans should just admit that they really, really want a CD of
Agnetha burping the Swedish alphabet and Benny playing his armpit.
I've seen some pretty nasty jealousy when I reveal that I have a 2-DVD
set of Frida buying chips and onion dip and Bjorn eating soup.
Do I think Universal could be more wise in their releases? Sure. But
from the mid-80s until now there was a complete dearth of ABBA stuff
to buy. Now it feels like manna from heaven when we get The Movie. If
Universal wants to be moneygrubbers fine, I won't buy. Shall I crab
about obvious money grabs...mmmm yea, Uni does deserve to know that
some people aren't happy.
As to the new ABBA set, I think I'm not going to buy it. Ta-dah! I'll
see if someone I know buys it and then make a copy of that Cavett
thingie (Kev? I-man?) ;) I have it but I don't know what condition
it's in.
kaboomie
kaboom
>Re: Brazen In The Sun:
> Hmm, do you have any photos of Gunilla happily frying in the noon day
>sun you wouldn't mind sharing? (Ducking for the safety of my foxhole in
>an undisclosed location, lol.)
**Sadly, no :::mourning:::
> I'm pretty sure the dark-haired people have coined most of the blonde
>jokes. I know I've made up quite a few just to annoy my younger sister,
>who's blonde haired and blue eyed and the only lefty in the family. I
>was actually born a lefty as well and wrote with my left hand before I
>started school but was pressured at school into writing with my right.
>never understood why.
**My dad's a lefty...that weirdo ;)
>Re: Jeopardy, Category: Final Jeopardy/Hosts:
>> > Hmm, think I recall the TCM host (can't remember his name, lol)
>>
>> **Robert Osborne?
>>
> You answered correctly; what was your wager?
**/me digs in pocket
Uh, 73 cents and a lint ball. Huh. I need better pockets.
>Re: Didn't We See This On Pay Per View?:
>> **I think the only part that wasn't staged was the part where two
>> filming *parties* got into a fight in the hallway.
>
> Lol...picturing this as a giant food fight with ABBA trying to make
>it to the concert or their hotel rooms or wherever they were going to
>at the time and ultimately, they all get plastered by cream pies,
**/me thinking: hmmm Frida...Agnetha and cream pies...
I-man, get your mind out of the gutter!
<runs away>
>cakes, mashed potatoes and gravy, you name it, they get hit and then
>they start grabbing food to throw in retaliation.
**Didn't Agnetha throw some herring around once?
>Then, Stig and Lasse
>walk through the door and they yell at both of them: "This is all your
>fault!" Stig and Lasse (sounds like a bloody TV show) don't even
>recognized Benny, Bjorn, Agnetha and Frida as they are covered head to
>toe with food -- they think it's a group of crazed fans and start
>yelling for security for protection but to the rescue comes...(da da da
>da da:)...Tom Oliver, thinking it's a scene for the movie. Stig and
>Lasse are clobbered by ABBA and afterwards, decide they both need a few
>good stiff drinks.
**After witnessing this food fight, I think the good, stiff drinks
came first :)
kaboomie
Kevin Sanderson
"kaboom" <kaboo...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:55:40 GMT, "Kevin Sanderson"
> <kevinsanderson...@sbcnospamglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>And with all the new HD2 channels going on and being programmed, even more
>>stuff to listen to! I'm still waiting for the price of HD radios to come
>>down a bit more...$249 is the cheapest I've found for a table top model.
>>More are coming out soon.
>>"kaboom" <kaboo...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:430fa410...@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
>
> **The HD is transmitted free? Does it piggyback on the regular signal?
> I was thinking of getting Sirius. My cousin has it and he loves it. We
> are both 70s fans but he's 15-16 years younger. I loves the disco
> station. I admit, I listen to Howard Stern also. :)
Of course, it's free to listen to after you get your hands on a receiver
(quite pricey, but they're coming down) no subscription fees like Sirius or
XM...it's digital broadcasting supported by commercials..though I also don't
think anyone is selling commercials on HD2 yet...no numbers. Not many
receivers out there yet. So you will now have your choice of the regular
local stations in digital with commercials and the the HD2 channel. General
consensus seems to be that HD on FM is great (not so great on AM). At Smooth
Jazz, we haven't started broadcasting on HD2 yet (to my knowledge, but very
soon, maybe in days). But Magic is...light classical part of the day on
their HD2, WJLB has recorded-live rock concert tracks of all things on their
HD2, WRIF is playing more of a variety of newer rock tunes than regular RIF
on HD2 and WCSX is going deeper into classic album rock cuts on their HD2.
Don't recall right now what the others are up to. HD is a digital stream
that is somehow multiplexed into the normal frequency modulated signal and
can carry a couple of audio and data channels. We had to install a new
transmitter, upgrade the method of getting the signal to the transmitter and
install a new computer system for playing everything. Also, if you didn't
know...everything is about 8 seconds later than it was due to the encoding
process. I can get done with a break and hear the last several seconds after
it actually occurred.
I used to have very good ratings back in the early to mid 90s when I hosted
the Saturday Night disco show at Q95...the time when disco made a comeback.
I liked the good disco songs back in the 70s.
You're not the only woman I know who listens to Howard, but there aren't
many of you! :)
I have the Cavett interview and complete concert on VHS. I don't really need
the box set, either. I have to think about new tires and struts for my car
as winter approaches. I'm sure you know that feeling!
I really do think that the members of ABBA do like their fans and would like
to save us from wasting money on less than thrilling efforts of theirs.
After all, this was the only group I've ever heard of that insisted on good
ticket pricing and seating for fans. I'm sure Universal would like to
release everything. But I don't think we need to be bored by it all and I do
really doubt that much stuff exists in good shape that hasn't been released
already, except for maybe concert audio and European TV shows that they
don't hold the rights to.
I remember mentioning once that I have a cassette somewhere of Benny & Bjorn
answers to "common" questions someone came up with but didn't include and
people wanted it. I still haven't found it, haven't really looked hard for
it, but I know it's still around as nothing ever leaves here (yes, I'm a
pack rat). :)
Sadly, one of the more vocal posters on that thread that Marnix had the
moderators close, but they decided to delete it instead,
admitted to all that he's suffering from depression, is on medication, can
be suicidal and was posting when he was tired.
Makes you wonder and explains a ton!
Kevin
kaboom
<re No competition = no savings>
> It's the same situation where I live in OK: no Best Buy, Borders,
>Barnes and Noble, Target or Circuit City here and the nearest stores
>are also a half hour away. We have the ubiquitous Wal-Mart and the only
>K-Mart in existence in OK and a couple of cd/dvd stores which don't
>discount the titles they have and if Wal-Mart and K-Mart don't have it,
>the cd/dvd stores sell them for the full price and you either pay the
>price if you want it or spend fifteen dollars for gas to drive to
>Oklahoma City and buy it cheaper through the Best Buys or Targets or
>Circuit Citys. If you have the patience and can stand the wait, you can
>usually buy something cheaper through mail order. Expensive as gas has
>become, ordering a cd or dvd through the mail has become my preferred
>choice.
**Guess what? After filling up my car today, it's just become my
preferred method. I'm hoping I have enough money to drive back to MI.
And we are supposed to open up the oil reserves? It's not the lack of
oil...it's the lack of refinery capacity for cripessakes! rant rant :)
Hope it doesn't take too much petroleum to make DVDs or CDs then I'll
be sad :) I've always been pretty patient for most items. I'm willing
to wait until they go onsale (I used to buy a lot of used CDs too) at
some point in time and buy them then. Now with gas prices and, for me,
no raise this year, I'll be buying online much more often. Though I
much prefer to go to the store and pick it off the shelf. I'm noticing
that stores like BB or CC aren't carrying as much stuff as they used
to. I could always count on CC having a new ABBA DVD if it came out.
Now I can't depend on them having new stuff at all.
>Re: New Purchases:
>> So far, Jamie Cullum (excellent, highly recommended) and Sara Evans.
>> Now Sara's country but she has a good voice and I find that it's not
>> super twangy. I recommend it. Oh yea, I listed to Smash Mouth and you
>> either like 'em or you don't. I liked it.
>>
> Okay, I've missed Jamie and Nikka, what do they do that I might've
>heard and not realized it? The DJs here still play twenty-five songs in
>a row, which takes up almost an hour and then they tell you the names
>of the artists long after you've forgotten what you were listening to.
**Jamie is a young dude from the UK who is hard to describe. His stuff
can be really jazzy but his voice isn't a Sinatra type voice. It's
much more contemporary, a touch gritty. Nikka Costa does the song
"Everybody's Got Their Something" which is used a lot on TV. No hits
off of the CD itself, but it's awesome. Late one night, I was watching
MTV or something and they played one of her videos and it knocked my
socks off. I ran right out and bought the CD (previous to this one).
>I know who Sara Evans is, don't really see someone from CT into
>country...must be the MI influence on you. I'm not much of a country
>fan; sometimes, I get interested in a particular artist for a while but
>then lose interest. But, it's almost always a female artist and almost
>never a male artist, particularly the male country singers whose cowboy
>hats are substitute toupees.
**LOL! Yea! Substitute Toupees! Hmmm good name for a music group. I
don't like male country music singers. They sing with way too much
twang and it seems like a total put-on. On the flip side, I love
Trisha Yearwood, Kathy Mattea, Patty Loveless and the screamer, what's
her name, uh, Martina McBride. All of them don't sing with twangs and
their music could well be A/C but Country Music Law says: Insert
twangy string instruments here and there. Trisha Yearwood I like
especially. Songs like "Walkaway Joe" are awesome. Sara Evans has a
great song on the CD called "Otis Redding" but the music does have a
bit of twang-factor.
Faith Hill's new one, Fireflies (?), has a huge twang-factor which is
a bit of a disappointment to me. It also follows Country Music Law
very closely in that: You must have a funny making-fun-of rednecks
song on every CD. You must have twang-factor. You must have a song
that annoys women (She has a song that says I'd steal the Mona Lisa,
tear it up into little pieces and lay it at your feet for all the
world to see). WTF is that?! I'm not *moved* by that sentiment. Go
tear up the confederate flag, lay off the works of art by Italian
masters :) There are other Country Music Laws but I can't think of
them at the moment.
>Re: Target: Fire At Will!:
**What did Will ever do to you! Huh?
> We're starting to get more and more of the Target supercenters - they
>want to compete with the Wal-Mart super centers. More power to them.
>They have some good deals on dvds, sometimes competing with Wal-Mart on
>the $5 dvds of movies that are out of copyright protection or the
>studios have offered at rather cheap costs. I dig through those bins
>hoping to find something rare but wouldn't you know, the good stuff is
>never in those bins. Just hundreds and hundreds of copies of old TV
>shows, usually of the Dick van Dyke or Bill Cosby variety. Not the
>stuff I want to see the rest of my lifetime.
**You know, I used to be the master at rummaging. But in the last few
years, I don't have it in me. I don't have the time or energy. I'm
pissed when stuff isn't set up neatly and in some type of order. Am I
getting old, I-man? OH HEY! It was my birthday yesterday! Didn't get a
damned thing :( I'll keep you informed of my gift status in case it
changes. :)
However, when rummaging there was nothing better than coming up with
something ABBA. I remember going to Newbury's Comics and rummaging in
a book bin. My friend was with me and she is me but in a different
body. She comes up and taps me on the shoulder, I turn and she's found
an import Roxette CD that she's been looking for and I hold up a small
paperback ABBA book I've found. We high-fived and continued on. Sweet!
>Re: Saturday Night Texas Massacre:
>> **Can I not watch either Massacres? :)
>
> Sure but only if you eat your spinach and broccoli.
**You're not going to believe this but I love spinach (canned :)
mainly) and broccoli is my favorite. I HATE greenbeans.
>Re: Olivia '78 TV Special:
> Yes, I'd be interested in a copy and I'll be okay with a dvd version.
>Think the problem I had was with the dvd player was that it wasn't
>equipped to play "home made" dvds. The dvd player I had which fried was
>several years old...found out some couldn't handle the newer hardware.
>Most of the newer models can handle anything you can throw at them.
**So the DVD player that you have now is okay with DVD-R? I use an old
Philips/Magnavox from '99 to play all my regular DVDs, to save wear
and tear on the cheapies that can handle everything you can throw at
them. I use a Magnavox 458 to play PAL DVDS (and it's easily
regionhacked with the remote) and to play DVD-Rs (oh, and the
occasional regular DVD that the P/M won't load).
>Re: Another Surprise:
>
>> **I do like that song though (Will the Circle...).
>
> Are you sure you're from the northeast (and north) and not from the
>south? Country and gospel, not what you'd expect to hear from a
>northern girl. Still, a pleasant, nice surprise:-)
**You're not going to believe this but the first place I heard that
song was in Sweden! Yea! I think I have a copy of it by Carola and a
second copy by Elisabeth Andreasson. Okay, yes, I'm a *very* northern
girl but I like music a whole lot! :) Can't say I listen to gospel
though, just those songs that have broken through.
>Re: The Resume I Sent Universal:
> It was; however, I did get the "don't call us, we'll call you" form
>letter from them thanking me for expressing interest in seeking PR
>employment with Universal. They thought the idea would cost them too
>much money and would therefore, not be profitable in the long run. I
>thought it was a darn good idea and therefore am staging a hostile
>takeover of Universal just so the idea can be implemented. However, at
>the Universal office complex, I keep running into an overweight
>security guard named Tom Oliver, who keeps denying me entry to the
>complex. This is going to be a lot tougher than I thought!
**Bastiches! Well, keep at it, my son.
>Re: Nice ABBA Buns:
> Always did think that publicly Agnetha protested too much but
>privately may have been another matter altogether. Frida definitely has
>a nice ass, as does Olivia. Rolling Stone reviewed one of her concerts
>and they included a photo of Olivia with her back to the audience and
>revealing a very well-rounded bottom. Rolling Stone caught more flack
>over that photo from fans and feminists than from their review of her
>concert. I don't remember RS making any kind of comments about the
>photo and I guess the fans thought the photo was very unflattering. For
>RS, it was just par for the course - their review on Olivia was far
>more damning than the photo and that's where the people should've had
>their attention directed.
**Olivia was known for her wholesomeness so I'm not surprised when the
shitstorm rains down over showing her butt. Remember the big who-ha
when she made...um, I forgot the name of the film. Was it the one with
John Travolta but not Grease? It was slightly risque and sucked
terribly.
>Re: ABBA TV Special:
>>> **I bet they were approached quite often, I happen to think they
>> weren't interested in doing EVERYTHING thrown at them. Not such a bad
>> idea, as you can see by those played out singers like JLo and Broccoli
>> Spears.
>>
> Is Broccoli's hair color chedar cheese yellow? LOL, back on subject,
>I think it's a pity ABBA didn't make a TV special in the US or at least
>contract with the movie or TV studios in California or in London to
>give the Euro specials they filmed more of a polish. That one (with
>Roxy Music and the luscious Kate Bush) from Austria or Germany or
>wherever the hell it was from was poorly produced and looked as if it
>all produced in one take. It looked like the producers hired ten year
>old kids to film the special. I watch that and wonder how could ABBA
>not be embarrassed by the unprofessionalism?
**Aaaigh! Did you hear that Kate Bush is coming out with a new CD!?
Man, I hope so, she's awesome. And am I one of the few that did like
The Red Shoes?
As for ABBA in Switzerland, I somehow have two different versions.
I'll be putting those to DVD if you want them too. It was okay, it was
the cheesy 70s remember. So maybe that was the height of Euro TV
professionalism.
>Re: Kung Fu Carpenters:
> Should've remebered about "Carpenters Gold" being a dvd but doesn't
>it exist as a cd as well? Much like "ABBA Gold" exists as a dvd and a
>cd - and doesn't Universal have the rights on the recordings by
>Carpenters as well?
**I don't know. I do know that I need more Carpenters DVDs. I watched
that DVD the other night. It's painful to watch some bits where she
looks so damn thin. I want to throw a pizza at her.
>Re: Those Were The Days, My Friend:
> I think a lot of the 70s music (and the 60s as well) got a bad rap
>from the critics. Course, they were promoting the idea that every song
>from a pop or rock artist should have a deep political message or that
>every song should be a serious work of art. No fun allowed. Course,
>these days, radio stations with a 70s format never play the fun
>songs...it's always the serious stuff: Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin,
>Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, etc. I'm a fan of those groups or artists but
>there's a lot of stuff I haven't heard in years and you can't get that
>station or the other metro oldies station to play them.
**Buy that 70s collection from Rhino Records. 25 CDs of 70s goodness.
> Luckily, I've discovered another oldies station here which has no
>problem playing any oldies as opposed to playing certain titles. This
>station definitely has the other oldies station beat. It was quite a
>shock to hear them play Harry Chapin's song "Taxi" and both versions of
>"One Tin Soldier" (by Coven and by the Original Cast, who had the
>original version of the song in 1969). Now, if they would just take
>requests...still a problem.
**Maybe it's hard for the radio-bot to take requests.
kaboomie
infiniteman
> **Guess what? After filling up my car today, it's just become my
> preferred method. I'm hoping I have enough money to drive back to MI.
> And we are supposed to open up the oil reserves? It's not the lack of
> oil...it's the lack of refinery capacity for cripessakes! rant rant :)
>
Seems like there's all kinds of blame to go around on the price spike
on the price of gas. The local, conservative metro newspaper here was
blaming the environmentalists for keeping the oil companies from
drilling in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans, Gulf of Mexico and in
Alaska. We'd have cheap gas if it wasn't for the environmentalists,
which is baloney. Lack of refinery capacity is certainly a possibility
but I place more of the blame on oil companies and the commodity
brokers, who kept pushing the price of a barrel of oil up and up and up
in reaction to the war in Iraq and the Gulf coast onslaught of
hurricane Katrina. I also blame our modern day Nero, our smirking
President Bush, who stood by and did nothing until it was almost too
late and then when he did do something, it was too little.
The oil reserves should've been tapped before, not after the
hurricane struck...now. we have 28 oil-producing countries agreeing to
supply 68 million barrels of oil just to try and get the country
stabilized. I don't think it will get the gas prices lowered even
though that is the desired goal.
And one last word on the subject, yesterday, we had a person in who
works in the oil fields here. He said the oil companies are determined
to keep the price for a gallon of gas where they were at prior to the
hurricane hitting for rest of the year and into next year and then
dropping the price below $2 sometime late next year. In other words, by
the time, the mid-term elections roll around.
Re: CDs/DVDs Manufacturing Costs:
> Hope it doesn't take too much petroleum to make DVDs or CDs then I'll
> be sad :) I've always been pretty patient for most items. I'm willing
> to wait until they go onsale (I used to buy a lot of used CDs too) at
> some point in time and buy them then. Now with gas prices and, for me,
> no raise this year, I'll be buying online much more often. Though I
> much prefer to go to the store and pick it off the shelf. I'm noticing
> that stores like BB or CC aren't carrying as much stuff as they used
> to. I could always count on CC having a new ABBA DVD if it came out.
> Now I can't depend on them having new stuff at all.
I think it will add some costs to the manufacture of a disc, how
much, I'm not sure of nor how much it will add to the price of a cd or
dvd. Artist royalties probably add a whole lot more to the retail price
of a cd or dvd than what oil to grease the machines to press the discs
would do. If anything, I don't believe it would add anything more than
fifty cents on the manufacturing end.
Rather surprising BB cutting back on stuff; they've always boasted
their stock in trade was the electronics and appliances, which was why
they offered cds and dvds at lower prices than anyone else. Every other
retailer has complained about BB having lower prices than what they
could offer -- even Wal-Mart complained about BB underselling them.
But, I guess someone figured they could undercut BB on electronics and
appliances or something as their prices on electronics and appliances
have remained pretty high.
I'd rather be able to buy the cds and dvds I want at a store than
through mail order but sometimes a mail order company is the only place
you can obtain the stuff you're looking for.
Re: All the Young Dudes and Gals:
> **Jamie is a young dude from the UK who is hard to describe. His stuff
> can be really jazzy but his voice isn't a Sinatra type voice. It's
> much more contemporary, a touch gritty. Nikka Costa does the song
> "Everybody's Got Their Something" which is used a lot on TV. No hits
> off of the CD itself, but it's awesome. Late one night, I was watching
> MTV or something and they played one of her videos and it knocked my
> socks off. I ran right out and bought the CD (previous to this one).
>
Still can't place Jamie but I think I've heard the song by Nikka.
Radio wise, the Oklahoma radio stations will play the songs and not
tell you who the artists are until two hours later. And by that time,
you've already forgotten which artist it was that you were interested
in. I've really got to listen to the Sirius radio channels on Dish more
-- at least they've got the artists, titles and the CDs the songs are
from on the screen.
Re: Substitute Toupees and the Insincere Sincerity of Male Country
Singers:
> **LOL! Yea! Substitute Toupees! Hmmm good name for a music group. I
> don't like male country music singers. They sing with way too much
> twang and it seems like a total put-on.
LOL! When I look at some of the names that people have come up with
for a music group, I think Substitute Toupees? Well, why not? As for
male country singers, I think you pretty much nailed it: too many of
them come across as a total put-on, particularly as musicians. There's
a few of them who can play guitar okay but most of them know only a few
chords and it's more of a prop for them. Something to do other standing
still and holding a microphone and having no stage presence.
Re: Country Gals Make My Heart Sing...Sometimes:
>On the flip side, I love Trisha Yearwood, Kathy Mattea, Patty Loveless and >the screamer, what's
> her name, uh, Martina McBride. All of them don't sing with twangs and
> their music could well be A/C but Country Music Law says: Insert
> twangy string instruments here and there. Trisha Yearwood I like
> especially. Songs like "Walkaway Joe" are awesome. Sara Evans has a
> great song on the CD called "Otis Redding" but the music does have a
> bit of twang-factor.
Patty Loveless has always been one of my favorites and Trisha
Yearwood and Kathy Mattea have done some things I like. I really like
Trisha's new song, "Georgia Rain" quite a lot. But it doesn't seem to
be getting a lot of radio airplay -- it's probably too pop for the
country stations. McBride, I'm hot and cold on her. One of my other
favorite gal country singers to listen to is Carlene Carter (daughter
of June Carter Cash). Carlene has a twang in her voice and sometimes in
her music but she has too much rock in her soul to be straight country.
She did a few albums in the late 80s and 90s with members of Tom
Petty's Heartbreakers, had some legal problems, disappeared but
recently resurfaced but not with a record deal: playing her mom in a
stage play.
Twangy string instruments -- you're referring to the steel guitar and
it's an instrument much like the sitar: an annoyance. Someone should
pile them all up in one big heap and burn them.
Re: Lack of Faith:
> Faith Hill's new one, Fireflies (?), has a huge twang-factor which is
> a bit of a disappointment to me. It also follows Country Music Law
> very closely in that: You must have a funny making-fun-of rednecks
> song on every CD. You must have twang-factor. You must have a song
> that annoys women (She has a song that says I'd steal the Mona Lisa,
> tear it up into little pieces and lay it at your feet for all the
> world to see). WTF is that?! I'm not *moved* by that sentiment. Go
> tear up the confederate flag, lay off the works of art by Italian
> masters :) There are other Country Music Laws but I can't think of
> them at the moment.
Must be a reaction to having had to compete with Shania Twain...for a
time, it seemed as if she was trying to have the same success Shania
was having in the pop and country genres. Sort of like Agnetha's
biggest hit single in the US was "Can't Shake Loose," which was written
by Russ Ballard, who also wrote Frida's "Something's Goin' On," which
sort of followed the thinking that if a non-songwriting artist got a
hit with a song from a particular songwriter, that songwriter got the
next single too. Only, in this case, the song didn't go to Frida but to
Agnetha. Worked for Agnetha, even though I think her label should've
released "Once Burned, Twice Shy" as the single.
Re: Reason for Firing At Will: Do I Really Need One?:
> >Re: Target: Fire At Will!:
>
> **What did Will ever do to you! Huh?
>
LOL..."Anchorman" should be reason enough to justify firing at Will.
Re: The Rummage Sale and Birthdays:
> **You know, I used to be the master at rummaging. But in the last few
> years, I don't have it in me. I don't have the time or energy. I'm
> pissed when stuff isn't set up neatly and in some type of order. Am I
> getting old, I-man? OH HEY! It was my birthday yesterday! Didn't get a
> damned thing :( I'll keep you informed of my gift status in case it
> changes. :)
>
No, you're not getting old, Kaboomie. Those rummage sale bins wear
out a person of any age, even a ten year old. You're only as young or
as old as you feel. I like stuff set up neatly and in order as
well...makes it easier to find it.
Nothing for your birthday? Not even a birthday spanking? Aw...if I
had known, girl...(did you tell me your birthday and I
forgot?)...anyway, a belated happy birthday and here's wishing every
dream you dream comes true for you.
My birthday is approaching, on the 15th and not really looking
forward to it. Not because of my age or anything like that...can't do
anything about that as it is but I'm not really bothered as I've had
people tell me I look ten to fifteen years younger than what I am. It
seems like something bad always occur around my birthday and this year
is the worst -- don't want to publicly say what it is...will tell you
privately.
Re: Rummaging, Pt. II:
> However, when rummaging there was nothing better than coming up with
> something ABBA. I remember going to Newbury's Comics and rummaging in
> a book bin. My friend was with me and she is me but in a different
> body. She comes up and taps me on the shoulder, I turn and she's found
> an import Roxette CD that she's been looking for and I hold up a small
> paperback ABBA book I've found. We high-fived and continued on. Sweet!
>
Your friend was with you but she's you in a different body? Sounds
like a line left off "I Am The Walrus." Sometimes, I'm lucky to find
the rare cd, old vinyl album, poster or book in the used music/book
stores at a cheap price. There's a few stores in Oklahoma City which
often have most anything you're looking for but they have some high
prices to go along with it. I found all of 'Til Tuesday's albums on cd
several years back and bought them all...I loved "Voices Carry."
Unfortunately, my niece was living with me at one time and one of her
friends stole all of the albums except one as well as a few other cds I
had in my collection. Never got them back and have yet to find copies
of those cds. At least I still have "(Believed You Were) Lucky," which
could've been a big hit for 'Til Tuesday but singer Aimee Mann had to
throw in the f-word, which radio stations couldn't get around. One
radio station here played the song, not realizing it contained a
naughty word and they didn't bleep it. Surprised they didn't catch
flack for that.
Re: Popeye's Real Favorite Girl:
> **You're not going to believe this but I love spinach (canned :)
> mainly) and broccoli is my favorite. I HATE greenbeans.
>
Am I reading your mind or what? I love spinach too but for some
reason, too much of it gives me a big headache. When I'm eating out and
doing the buffet line, I load up on the broccoli -- it's my favorite
too:-)...though very rarely do I ever mix it with cheese. Also avoid
placing any butter on broccoli, which a lot of people here will do.
Greenbeans, I don't mind although I tend to mix it with corn, onions,
potatoes, peas and other veggies rather than just eating straight.
Re: DVD Players:
> **So the DVD player that you have now is okay with DVD-R? I use an old
> Philips/Magnavox from '99 to play all my regular DVDs, to save wear
> and tear on the cheapies that can handle everything you can throw at
> them. I use a Magnavox 458 to play PAL DVDS (and it's easily
> regionhacked with the remote) and to play DVD-Rs (oh, and the
> occasional regular DVD that the P/M won't load).
>
I have another dvd player which can handle dvd-r...the other one
couldn't handle dvd-r. That was the problem which I didn't catch: it
was made before the dvd-r technology was included.
Re: Gospel Music:
> **You're not going to believe this but the first place I heard that
> song was in Sweden! Yea! I think I have a copy of it by Carola and a
> second copy by Elisabeth Andreasson. Okay, yes, I'm a *very* northern
> girl but I like music a whole lot! :) Can't say I listen to gospel
> though, just those songs that have broken through.
>
I don't really listen to it either...I associate it with churches I
went to in my younger days...and the preachers who yelled at the top of
their lungs, trying their best to scare you into believing in religion
their way. Thought a lot of that music is caca, still think of it that
way but that's not to say all of it is bad. It's mostly the performers,
who have no sense of layering harmonies, all trying to sing at once and
having disconcordant voices and making a sound that cats might find
attractive.
Here's one for you about Sweden and gospel music: the melody for one
of the best gospel tunes, "How Great Thou Art," was lifted from a
Swedish song. I don't remember what the title of that Swedish song,
just that the original melody was composed in the era when universal
copyright protection was limited to a very short time.
Re: Those Bastiches and Sons of Bee-stings:
> **Bastiches! Well, keep at it, my son.
>
LOL! I do love your way with the swear words! W.C. Fields would be
proud to call you friend. (He, whose "Godfrey Daniels" was a corruption
of another well-known swear word, contrived to get around the censors
of his day...the fools never caught on.)
I'm keeping at it but so far Universal is wise to all my tricks! My
son? Girl, think you're much younger than me, so don't give anyone the
wrong idea that the reverse is true.
Re: Olivia's Butt: Hands Off!:
> **Olivia was known for her wholesomeness so I'm not surprised when the
> shitstorm rains down over showing her butt. Remember the big who-ha
> when she made...um, I forgot the name of the film. Was it the one with
> John Travolta but not Grease? It was slightly risque and sucked
> terribly.
>
I remember Olivia had that wholesome image but I think that image
sometimes did much to keep her from being taken seriously. RS was
always running her down for having a weak singing voice while others
were running her down for claiming to be a country singer. I don't
remember who it was but some critic noted Olivia had more of a range
than many of her contemporaries, had perfect pitch and wasn't trying to
convert you to her way of thinking than what many other artists tried
to do during the same era.
The Newton-John and John Revolting movie you're probably thinking of
is "Two of a Kind," from 1983. Olivia had some good songs in the movie
although she co-wrote one in which she allowed Revolting to sing with
her. The movie may have sucked but it's a damned good fifty notches
above "Sordid Lives." Course, after "Two of a Kind," Revolting went on
to star in the sequel to "Saturday Night Massacre," "Stayin' Down,"
directed by one of the scariest people on the planet, Sylvester "Puddy
Tat" Stallone.
Re: Kate Bush:
> **Aaaigh! Did you hear that Kate Bush is coming out with a new CD!?
> Man, I hope so, she's awesome. And am I one of the few that did like
> The Red Shoes?
>
I've heard but what I think they are putting out is a greatest hits
compilation album. I saw a column in the local metro paper by the music
critic whining about the labels putting out greatest hits packages on
artists who had no hits. Kate Bush was one of the artists mentioned. I
kept thinking what's wrong with this guy? She rocked! He doesn't like
an act if they have hits yet he's complaining about labels wasting
time, money and manufacturing on artists with one or two or no hits. He
freakin' wants it both ways! He closes each column with "I have seen
the future of rock and roll and he/she/they are..." For so long, I've
wanted to tell that guy, "you've said that every week and not one act
you mentioned has ever made it. So, by your track record, we must
conclude you've never seen the future of rock and roll as you've been
on the wrong track every time out!"
Re: ABBA In Switzerland:
> As for ABBA in Switzerland, I somehow have two different versions.
> I'll be putting those to DVD if you want them too. It was okay, it was
> the cheesy 70s remember. So maybe that was the height of Euro TV
> professionalism.
>
Two versions? Yeah, I'd like to see the one I don't have but don't
know which version I have on videotape, so definitely yes to both and
thank you. I've been trying to find out if anyone has the alternate
concert performance by ABBA on the Cavett special as I'm sure I've seen
it. Unfortunately, haven't found it yet. Grrrrrrrrhhhhhh!
Re: Karen Carpenter:
> **I don't know. I do know that I need more Carpenters DVDs. I watched
> that DVD the other night. It's painful to watch some bits where she
> looks so damn thin. I want to throw a pizza at her.
>
Aren't some of those performances from the early 70s before her
health problems set in? Sometimes, VH1Classic plays a filmed
performance of "Close To You," which I think is from 1970 or 1971. She
looked thin even at the beginning. I think it was mentioned almost
immediately after her death, that part of her problem was low
self-esteem, that she didn't think she was attractive. I wondered how
could she possibly think that? Not a raving beauty but she was a cutie
in my book and no way unattractive.
Another sad part of Karen's story was her mother for whatever reason,
placed some of the blame of Karen's death on Olivia. A book on Karen
mentioned she was pals with Olivia, mentioned the bit about Karen's
mother blaming Olivia but not providing any specific details as to why.
Olivia didn't do drugs and wasn't a big drinker, so I'm not sure what
the reason was. Prettier? I've known some parents who resented their
kids's friends because the friends were more attractive than their
kids, but that was something over which their kids's friends had no
control over. Mom and Dad were responsible for the looks.
Re: Rhinoized:
> **Buy that 70s collection from Rhino Records. 25 CDs of 70s goodness.
>
Those Rhino cds are what I think some radio stations use for their
programming. For everything that's on those Rhino cds, there's still
tens of thousands of songs still not available on cd or they're hard to
find.
Re: Please Mr. DJ, Won't You Play This Song For Her, Make Her Fall In
Love With Me Again:
> **Maybe it's hard for the radio-bot to take requests.
We've got human DJs on the radio stations here but getting them to
play songs you want to hear instead of songs they want to play or are
paid to play, I'd like to take my chances with a radio-bot. Might have
better chances on hearing what I want to hear. Video didn't kill the
radio star -- radio was a suicide!!!!!
kaboom
<kevinsanderson...@sbcnospamglobal.net> wrote:
>I used to have very good ratings back in the early to mid 90s when I hosted
>the Saturday Night disco show at Q95...the time when disco made a comeback.
>I liked the good disco songs back in the 70s.
**Where are you now, Kev!? I listen to 101.3 (?) with those stupid
giggling women just so I can listen to my disco Saturday nights. Or
the Solid Gold weekend, whatever it's called.
>You're not the only woman I know who listens to Howard, but there aren't
>many of you! :)
**Has your opinion of me sunk through the floor? :)
<re the new set etc.>
>I have the Cavett interview and complete concert on VHS. I don't really need
>the box set, either. I have to think about new tires and struts for my car
>as winter approaches. I'm sure you know that feeling!
**LOL! My Kevvie, I went to A2s VW dealership for some problems and a
20K checkup, they informed me that I have a bent wheel. :-/ Not a
cheap steelie, no, it's an expensive 17inch alloy. Luckily, it's not
too bad but it's wrecking the tire slowly. I was going to sell it but
it does get really good gas mileage so I'm holding off for a bit. I
don't know what I'm going to do about the tire and wheel, though.
I have the Cavett interview and concert also, don't know what the
quality is like however. I also have a cassette with the full Cavett
interview on it.
>I really do think that the members of ABBA do like their fans and would like
>to save us from wasting money on less than thrilling efforts of theirs.
**Well, I read that the preliminary price on the set was in the
$200-225 region. Ouchie! I bought all the latest remasters for $9 a
piece.
>After all, this was the only group I've ever heard of that insisted on good
>ticket pricing and seating for fans. I'm sure Universal would like to
>release everything. But I don't think we need to be bored by it all and I do
>really doubt that much stuff exists in good shape that hasn't been released
>already, except for maybe concert audio and European TV shows that they
>don't hold the rights to.
**Yes and when are some of these people going to realize that they're
sitting on goldmines! :)
>I remember mentioning once that I have a cassette somewhere of Benny & Bjorn
>answers to "common" questions someone came up with but didn't include and
>people wanted it. I still haven't found it, haven't really looked hard for
>it, but I know it's still around as nothing ever leaves here (yes, I'm a
>pack rat). :)
**I think we should form a society :) really, I understand completely.
>Sadly, one of the more vocal posters on that thread that Marnix had the
>moderators close, but they decided to delete it instead,
>admitted to all that he's suffering from depression, is on medication, can
>be suicidal and was posting when he was tired.
>Makes you wonder and explains a ton!
**I like how people wander in, blow apart a forum or chatroom and then
you get to hear the excuses when it all gets a bit too heavy.
kaboomie
Kevin Sanderson
"kaboom" <kaboo...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:23:06 GMT, "Kevin Sanderson"
> <kevinsanderson...@sbcnospamglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>I used to have very good ratings back in the early to mid 90s when I
>>hosted
>>the Saturday Night disco show at Q95...the time when disco made a
>>comeback.
>>I liked the good disco songs back in the 70s.
>
> **Where are you now, Kev!? I listen to 101.3 (?) with those stupid
> giggling women just so I can listen to my disco Saturday nights. Or
> the Solid Gold weekend, whatever it's called.
Heh heh...I'll probably see Kevin O'Neill at this Saturday's Motor City
Radio Reunion...I'll have to tell him! The old Saturday disco show at Q95
was music intensive...and I used to play Dancing Queen and even Gimme!
Gimme! Gimme! !!!
>
>>You're not the only woman I know who listens to Howard, but there aren't
>>many of you! :)
>
> **Has your opinion of me sunk through the floor? :)
No...it's gone up. Show's you're a bit more open minded than most. :)
>
> <re the new set etc.>
>
>>I have the Cavett interview and complete concert on VHS. I don't really
>>need
>>the box set, either. I have to think about new tires and struts for my car
>>as winter approaches. I'm sure you know that feeling!
>
> **LOL! My Kevvie, I went to A2s VW dealership for some problems and a
> 20K checkup, they informed me that I have a bent wheel. :-/ Not a
> cheap steelie, no, it's an expensive 17inch alloy. Luckily, it's not
> too bad but it's wrecking the tire slowly. I was going to sell it but
> it does get really good gas mileage so I'm holding off for a bit. I
> don't know what I'm going to do about the tire and wheel, though.
Just keep an eye on it. Maybe you can get a friendly mechanic to find a used
wheel or call around to some of the junk yards. I've had to do that before.
Not fun, but it will save $$$!
>
> I have the Cavett interview and concert also, don't know what the
> quality is like however. I also have a cassette with the full Cavett
> interview on it.
Funny...just got a DVD with some German intros and it seems like the
interview is different...haven't had a chance to compare it to my old tape.
>
>>I really do think that the members of ABBA do like their fans and would
>>like
>>to save us from wasting money on less than thrilling efforts of theirs.
>
> **Well, I read that the preliminary price on the set was in the
> $200-225 region. Ouchie! I bought all the latest remasters for $9 a
> piece.
At least they and we can be proud of that stuff. Nothing saying anyone has
to buy it.
>
>>After all, this was the only group I've ever heard of that insisted on
>>good
>>ticket pricing and seating for fans. I'm sure Universal would like to
>>release everything. But I don't think we need to be bored by it all and I
>>do
>>really doubt that much stuff exists in good shape that hasn't been
>>released
>>already, except for maybe concert audio and European TV shows that they
>>don't hold the rights to.
>
> **Yes and when are some of these people going to realize that they're
> sitting on goldmines! :)
That would be nice to see all that available...probably a slow process
involving negotiating rights issues and finding the best masters.
>
>>I remember mentioning once that I have a cassette somewhere of Benny &
>>Bjorn
>>answers to "common" questions someone came up with but didn't include and
>>people wanted it. I still haven't found it, haven't really looked hard for
>>it, but I know it's still around as nothing ever leaves here (yes, I'm a
>>pack rat). :)
>
> **I think we should form a society :) really, I understand completely.
Heh heh :)
>
>>Sadly, one of the more vocal posters on that thread that Marnix had the
>>moderators close, but they decided to delete it instead,
>>admitted to all that he's suffering from depression, is on medication, can
>>be suicidal and was posting when he was tired.
>>Makes you wonder and explains a ton!
>
> **I like how people wander in, blow apart a forum or chatroom and then
> you get to hear the excuses when it all gets a bit too heavy.
>
> kaboomie
Happens too often there.
Kevin
kaboom
<kevinsanderson...@sbcnospamglobal.net> wrote:
>"kaboom" <kaboo...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:002ki1dneacgidlud...@4ax.com...
>> **Where are you now, Kev!? I listen to 101.3 (?) with those stupid
>> giggling women just so I can listen to my disco Saturday nights. Or
>> the Solid Gold weekend, whatever it's called.
>
>Heh heh...I'll probably see Kevin O'Neill at this Saturday's Motor City
>Radio Reunion...I'll have to tell him! The old Saturday disco show at Q95
>was music intensive...and I used to play Dancing Queen and even Gimme!
>Gimme! Gimme! !!!
**It was 100.3 (but you knew that) :) tell him that ABBA has more hits
than Dancing Queen and Take a Chance on Me. Mix it up a little. I read
in the Arbitron ratings that Doug isn't doing that well. However,
107.1 is doing really well. I don't mind Doug, I like the mix. But I
was surprised to find that 107.1 really plays some awesome new stuff.
Not the crap that I suspected they would when they announced the
change. If I'm listening, at some point in the day, I'll hear a song
that I like and write it down on my list. Yes, I have a list of songs
or groups to look at. If it wasn't for them, I never would've heard of
Madeleine Peyroux, she's fantastic.
Before I forget: There's a Comic Con at that new Rock Financial Center
on Grand River Ave. It's on Oct 15 and 16th. I'm going only for the
vendors, for the first time, there isn't a single signer I'm
interested in.
<re Howie>
>> **Has your opinion of me sunk through the floor? :)
>
>No...it's gone up. Show's you're a bit more open minded than most. :)
**Several weeks ago, I was listening and he played a soundclip of some
Swedish reporter farting during her report. I laughed but I was in a
"laughing jag" kind of mood so I just started laughing harder and
harder until I was out of control. Sadly, I was at work :) They would
say one word and I would lose it all over again.
<re my bendable Jetta>
>Just keep an eye on it. Maybe you can get a friendly mechanic to find a used
>wheel or call around to some of the junk yards. I've had to do that before.
>Not fun, but it will save $$$!
**There's a VW site for MI enthusiasts, I was thinking about asking
there.
<re new ABBA set>
>At least they and we can be proud of that stuff. Nothing saying anyone has
>to buy it.
**Well, this girl will be buying the new Frida set that they've
announced! I totally want that DVD.
kaboomie
Kevin Sanderson
"kaboom" <kaboo...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
Thanks for reminding me!
> <re Howie>
>>> **Has your opinion of me sunk through the floor? :)
>>
>>No...it's gone up. Show's you're a bit more open minded than most. :)
>
> **Several weeks ago, I was listening and he played a soundclip of some
> Swedish reporter farting during her report. I laughed but I was in a
> "laughing jag" kind of mood so I just started laughing harder and
> harder until I was out of control. Sadly, I was at work :) They would
> say one word and I would lose it all over again.
I've been in those laughing fit situations before. It's good for you! :)
>
> <re my bendable Jetta>
>>Just keep an eye on it. Maybe you can get a friendly mechanic to find a
>>used
>>wheel or call around to some of the junk yards. I've had to do that
>>before.
>>Not fun, but it will save $$$!
>
> **There's a VW site for MI enthusiasts, I was thinking about asking
> there.
You should!
>
> <re new ABBA set>
>>At least they and we can be proud of that stuff. Nothing saying anyone has
>>to buy it.
>
> **Well, this girl will be buying the new Frida set that they've
> announced! I totally want that DVD.
>
> kaboomie
I'm tempted, too!
Kevin
Kevin Sanderson
"Kevin Sanderson" <kevinsanderson...@sbcnospamglobal.net> wrote
in message news:cg1Ye.495$i31...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>
> "kaboom" <kaboo...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> **It was 100.3 (but you knew that) :) tell him that ABBA has more hits
>> than Dancing Queen and Take a Chance on Me. Mix it up a little. I read
>> in the Arbitron ratings that Doug isn't doing that well. However,
>> 107.1 is doing really well. I don't mind Doug, I like the mix. But I
>> was surprised to find that 107.1 really plays some awesome new stuff.
>> Not the crap that I suspected they would when they announced the
>> change. If I'm listening, at some point in the day, I'll hear a song
>> that I like and write it down on my list. Yes, I have a list of songs
>> or groups to look at. If it wasn't for them, I never would've heard of
>> Madeleine Peyroux, she's fantastic.
>>
Haven't seen A2 numbers, but the latest trend just out yesterday has Doug in
the Top 10 25-54 money demo...ninth place with a 4.1! That's party time for
a new radio station scoring that well.
The ad execs can sell that number if it stays up. They are causing some hurt
to other stations like The Drive, Magic a little and maybe WCSX. We're
having our problems with all the changes on the Urban side of things..lots
of listener flux going on. But mornings are holding OK and we are still
holding on to our older, less fickle, core.
Kevin
kaboom
>Re: Fill'erUp? That'll Be An Arm and Both Your Legs:
>I also blame our modern day Nero, our smirking
>President Bush, who stood by and did nothing until it was almost too
>late and then when he did do something, it was too little.
**Modern day Nero is a very apt observation.
> The oil reserves should've been tapped before, not after the
>hurricane struck...now. we have 28 oil-producing countries agreeing to
>supply 68 million barrels of oil just to try and get the country
>stabilized. I don't think it will get the gas prices lowered even
>though that is the desired goal.
**There's more than enough crude oil around, there's not enough
refineries to make it into gas. It doesn't matter, now that companies
see the prices that we are willing to pay, it'll never go back down.
With China becoming the new competitor for resources, everyone will
feel the fiscal pain, for sure. Not just that, but also shortages with
certain materials. Right now, cement is in short supply
(pre-hurricanes because of construction in China) and will be even
more so with the rebuilding down south.
>Re: Best Buys inventory or lack there of:
> Rather surprising BB cutting back on stuff; they've always boasted
>their stock in trade was the electronics and appliances, which was why
>they offered cds and dvds at lower prices than anyone else. Every other
>retailer has complained about BB having lower prices than what they
>could offer -- even Wal-Mart complained about BB underselling them.
>But, I guess someone figured they could undercut BB on electronics and
>appliances or something as their prices on electronics and appliances
>have remained pretty high.
**Boomie is now very angry with BB. I got a redundant gift for my
b-day while I was in CT. When I got back to MI, I went to BB
receiptless and told them of my dilemma. Girl says: You need the
receipt. I say Yes, but it was a b-day gift and I don't have a
receipt. "You need a receipt" Listen! Shut up, woman, I don't have it.
We go back and forth for a bit, and I ask for manager who looks at me
and says: You need a receipt. That was about the 800th time I heard
it. So with your draconian rules, you crap on a person with a
legitimate problem. I understand customers do crappy things with
returns but if they bothered to look at my return history, I returned
3 items in 15plus years. Mother frackers! Well, I fart in their
general direction.
>Re: Reason for Firing At Will: Do I Really Need One?:
>
>> >Re: Target: Fire At Will!:
>>
>> **What did Will ever do to you! Huh?
>>
> LOL..."Anchorman" should be reason enough to justify firing at Will.
**ROFL! Well, I do find myself repeating radio drops from the movie.
You know when a radio station will pull funny stuff out of movies or
ads and then use them during their show? Achorman has drops aplenty.
Cheesy movie that I watched the other day: Damnation Alley. A lovely
bit of gouda from 1977 with a pre-pickled Jan Michael Vincent and a
slumming George Peppard. It was a nuclear holocaust movie with this
urban assault vehicle that looked like it was from that old Sat.
morning show called Ark II. I'm going to tape it when it's on again. I
just can't *believe* that it's not available on DVD. :-/ No really.
Give me my 70s classics. :)
>Re: Boom's Birthday!
> No, you're not getting old, Kaboomie. Those rummage sale bins wear
>out a person of any age, even a ten year old. You're only as young or
>as old as you feel.
**Holy crap, I'm 12!
> Nothing for your birthday? Not even a birthday spanking? Aw...if I
>had known, girl...(did you tell me your birthday and I
>forgot?)...anyway, a belated happy birthday and here's wishing every
>dream you dream comes true for you.
**I am old, I can't remember what I did get when I finally got it.
LOL! How sad.
> My birthday is approaching, on the 15th and not really looking
>forward to it. Not because of my age or anything like that...can't do
>anything about that as it is but I'm not really bothered as I've had
>people tell me I look ten to fifteen years younger than what I am. It
>seems like something bad always occur around my birthday and this year
>is the worst -- don't want to publicly say what it is...will tell you
>privately.
**Yea :( I've worked through all of my Usenet posts that I had to
answer, it's emails next.
>Re: Popeye's Real Favorite Girl:
>
>> **You're not going to believe this but I love spinach (canned :)
>> mainly) and broccoli is my favorite. I HATE greenbeans.
>>
> Am I reading your mind or what? I love spinach too but for some
>reason, too much of it gives me a big headache.
**So would reading my mind...be careful :)
>When I'm eating out and
>doing the buffet line, I load up on the broccoli -- it's my favorite
>too:-)...though very rarely do I ever mix it with cheese. Also avoid
>placing any butter on broccoli, which a lot of people here will do.
**My Mom steams it then puts lemon and parmesan cheese, maybe the
lightest touch of Italian breadcrumbs.
>Greenbeans, I don't mind although I tend to mix it with corn, onions,
>potatoes, peas and other veggies rather than just eating straight.
**Greenbeans are evil.
>Re: Olivia's voice: Hands Off!:
> I remember Olivia had that wholesome image but I think that image
>sometimes did much to keep her from being taken seriously. RS was
>always running her down for having a weak singing voice while others
**RS? Stigwood? Weak singing voice?!! That is effing el Toro PooPoo!
She has one of the BEST!
>were running her down for claiming to be a country singer. I don't
>remember who it was but some critic noted Olivia had more of a range
>than many of her contemporaries, had perfect pitch and wasn't trying to
>convert you to her way of thinking than what many other artists tried
>to do during the same era.
**Okay, I'm not as angry now. Her singing live on the Olivia special
is nothing short of amazing. They can all go suck cheese.
> The Newton-John and John Revolting movie you're probably thinking of
>is "Two of a Kind," from 1983. Olivia had some good songs in the movie
>although she co-wrote one in which she allowed Revolting to sing with
>her. The movie may have sucked but it's a damned good fifty notches
>above "Sordid Lives." Course, after "Two of a Kind," Revolting went on
>to star in the sequel to "Saturday Night Massacre," "Stayin' Down,"
>directed by one of the scariest people on the planet, Sylvester "Puddy
>Tat" Stallone.
**Two of a Kind! Yea, I remember her taking a bite of those edible
sunglasses and saying: They taste like shit! I was like: Oh my god,
Olivia Newton John just said SHIT! :)
>Re: ABBA In Switzerland:
>> As for ABBA in Switzerland, I somehow have two different versions.
>> I'll be putting those to DVD if you want them too. It was okay, it was
>> the cheesy 70s remember. So maybe that was the height of Euro TV
>> professionalism.
>>
> Two versions? Yeah, I'd like to see the one I don't have but don't
>know which version I have on videotape, so definitely yes to both and
>thank you. I've been trying to find out if anyone has the alternate
>concert performance by ABBA on the Cavett special as I'm sure I've seen
>it. Unfortunately, haven't found it yet. Grrrrrrrrhhhhhh!
**The one with the longer interview?
>Re: Karen Carpenter:
>> **I don't know. I do know that I need more Carpenters DVDs. I watched
>> that DVD the other night. It's painful to watch some bits where she
>> looks so damn thin. I want to throw a pizza at her.
>>
> Aren't some of those performances from the early 70s before her
>health problems set in? Sometimes, VH1Classic plays a filmed
>performance of "Close To You," which I think is from 1970 or 1971. She
>looked thin even at the beginning. I think it was mentioned almost
>immediately after her death, that part of her problem was low
>self-esteem, that she didn't think she was attractive. I wondered how
>could she possibly think that? Not a raving beauty but she was a cutie
>in my book and no way unattractive.
**I agree. Some of those performances were late 70s, early 80 or 81.
Did she die in 81? She looked like she was 77 pounds in those.
To bring this all home: When I was back home in CT in Aug., I went
grocery shopping with Mom. As we were leaving, I wheeled around this
really tall woman and walked out the door. I heard some voices behind
me and I hear my Mom say: yes, it's <myname>. So I turn around and
this girl who had the worst case of anorexia I have EVER seen says:
How are you?! I haven't seen you in forever!
Now, I used to work at a local grocery store in town and she used to
come in and try to steal stuff by changing the prices. Something was
kinda wrong with her then, she was very pretty but she wore incredibly
garish makeup and was just starting to look 'wrong.' I never threw her
out but I would just say "Stop it" and make her buy what she could
afford. I knew she had an eating disorder.
This girl is like 6'2" and I'll be damned if she was 100 pounds. NO
fat, No muscle, the skin was just laying on the bone. I was freaked
out. She was so happy to see me, she jabbered away. I walked away and
seriously, I was depressed because I knew that she doesn't have long.
It's just not possible. I can't believe how bothered I am by it. She
must have a body dysmorphic problem. My God. Just the other day, I was
thinking about it. I don't know how she was even walking. I hate that
she can't see what she really looks like even way back when. Tall,
Germanic with dark blonde hair and blue eyes. :-/ It just really threw
me.
> Another sad part of Karen's story was her mother for whatever reason,
>placed some of the blame of Karen's death on Olivia. A book on Karen
>mentioned she was pals with Olivia, mentioned the bit about Karen's
>mother blaming Olivia but not providing any specific details as to why.
>Olivia didn't do drugs and wasn't a big drinker, so I'm not sure what
>the reason was. Prettier? I've known some parents who resented their
>kids's friends because the friends were more attractive than their
>kids, but that was something over which their kids's friends had no
>control over. Mom and Dad were responsible for the looks.
**Karen's Mom blamed Olivia in some way? Wow, I'd like to know that
story. However, I bet Mom wasn't without some or a lot of the blame
herself. They all seemed like perfectionists.
kaboomie
infiniteman
> **Modern day Nero is a very apt observation.
>
It must be scary to be Bush these days. His own party doesn't seem to
respect his choice to replace Sandra Day O'Connor on the Supreme Court,
he had a spy in the white house passing classified information to
someone in the Phillipines, Karl Rove is testifying about his role in
the leaking of a CIA agent's name, New Orleans is still in bad shape
and Bush's Iraq war (which a report out of the UK says Bush said God
told him to invade)tears up more of that country each day, resulting in
more deaths of our soldiers. Bush stays on the Nero path as his fellow
conservatives realize just what an idiot they put in the white house.
Bush may single handedly tilt the country back to the left or at least
to the left of center - after all, does anyone really want to trust
Bush at this point?
Re: Black Gold, Texas Tea:
> **There's more than enough crude oil around, there's not enough
> refineries to make it into gas. It doesn't matter, now that companies
> see the prices that we are willing to pay, it'll never go back down.
> With China becoming the new competitor for resources, everyone will
> feel the fiscal pain, for sure. Not just that, but also shortages with
> certain materials. Right now, cement is in short supply
> (pre-hurricanes because of construction in China) and will be even
> more so with the rebuilding down south.
>
With the oil companies, anything is possible. After Katrina, the
price of gas exceeded $3 a gallon and just before Rita, had dropped
down to $2.25 a gallon. During and after Rita, it went back up to
around $2.79 but today was back down to around $2.49 at some stations.
The price at the pump is being driven by the oil commodity brokers, who
react to events which may or may not happen. The oil companies pass
along any increases in costs to the stores and stations before the oil
has even been refined in response to what the brokers do. And that's
wrong and I think it's something our government could control but the
problem is, they won't do it.
Re: Oooh, That Smell:
> **Boomie is now very angry with BB. I got a redundant gift for my
> b-day while I was in CT. When I got back to MI, I went to BB
> receiptless and told them of my dilemma. Girl says: You need the
> receipt. I say Yes, but it was a b-day gift and I don't have a
> receipt. "You need a receipt" Listen! Shut up, woman, I don't have it.
> We go back and forth for a bit, and I ask for manager who looks at me
> and says: You need a receipt. That was about the 800th time I heard
> it. So with your draconian rules, you crap on a person with a
> legitimate problem. I understand customers do crappy things with
> returns but if they bothered to look at my return history, I returned
> 3 items in 15plus years. Mother frackers! Well, I fart in their
> general direction.
>
I think part of the problem with corporate America has to be they're
getting more anal by the day with their customers, forgetting the old
maxim/cliche, the customer is always right. You don't tick off the
customer, you want to keep them coming back to your store and so you do
whatever it takes to keep the customer satisfied. I would assume your
gift still had the Best Buy sticker with the Best Buy product code, so
they would've known the product was bought in a Best Buy store, even if
it wasn't bought in that particular store.
I'm rather surprised in this day and age of computers and bar codes,
that the store's bar code doesn't include the store's particular
number. A few months ago, my niece needed a part for her car and I went
to an Autozone store to get to the part. Unfortunately, it was the
wrong part and she lived about fifty miles from where I got the part.
It was getting late, so I took the part to the nearest Autozone store -
likewise, didn't have the receipt but each store has encoded store
information in their barcode, so the Autozone closer to where my niece
lived didn't need a receipt. They simply scanned the store's bar code
to verify the purchase was made at another Autozone and made the switch
without any problems.
That's how it should be...too bad corporate America seems intent on
forgetting that.
Mother frackers...lmao...that's a good one! I like your humor, girl.
Very original.
Re: Radio Drops:
> **ROFL! Well, I do find myself repeating radio drops from the movie.
> You know when a radio station will pull funny stuff out of movies or
> ads and then use them during their show? Achorman has drops aplenty.
>
I think a lot of us repeat radio drops from the movies. My favorite
line is from "National Lampoon's Animal House:" "Well, what are we
supposed to do, you moron?" Have to wonder if anyone in Bush's cabinet
ever says that to him?
Re: Cheesy Movies:
> Cheesy movie that I watched the other day: Damnation Alley. A lovely
> bit of gouda from 1977 with a pre-pickled Jan Michael Vincent and a
> slumming George Peppard. It was a nuclear holocaust movie with this
> urban assault vehicle that looked like it was from that old Sat.
> morning show called Ark II. I'm going to tape it when it's on again. I
> just can't *believe* that it's not available on DVD. :-/ No really.
> Give me my 70s classics. :)
>
That's not on DVD? I'd swear I've seen the movie at Target on DVD.
"Damnation Alley" is a favorite of mine also. Any movie that has a
great line like, "Damn! Armor plated cockroaches!" can't be all bad.
And damn, I liked that urban assault vehicle too...only problem was, I
never had enough money to buy one!
Re: Boomie Is:
> **Holy crap, I'm 12!
>
LOL! If you could be given that for your birthday, would you want to
be 12 again? Or some other age you remember with fondness? Or, would
you rather be the age you are now?
Re: No, You're Not!
> **I am old, I can't remember what I did get when I finally got it.
> LOL! How sad.
>
Many oldsters have told me you're never really old until you're
sitting down and remembering people, places and things you haven't
thought about in years. That you don't think about the people, places
and things from your past when you're younger because you're too busy
living but the memories come flooding when you have more time on your
hands.
So, you're still young if you can't remember what you got...it will
come back to you when you are truly old.
Re: If You Could Read My Mind:
> **So would reading my mind...be careful :)
>
If I'm reading your mind, I'll be very careful and very discreet :) I
believe it's possible for some people to read each other's minds as
well as possibly influencing someone from a distance, whether in a
waking state or in dreams. I believe in ESP, have experienced it on
occasions but never on the occasions when I need it the most (such as
winning numbers in the lottery or more vital, what the girl I'm out on
a date with is thinking).
Re: Broccoli Recipes:
> **My Mom steams it then puts lemon and parmesan cheese, maybe the
> lightest touch of Italian breadcrumbs.
>
Hmm, sounds tasty! Will have to give that a try out.
Re: The Plight of Greenbeans:
> **Greenbeans are evil.
>
LOL! Okay, I gotta know: is there a story behind your dislike of
greenbeans?
Re: Olivia and RS:
>> **RS? Stigwood? Weak singing voice?!! That is effing el Toro PooPoo!
> She has one of the BEST!
>
No, no! Not Robert Stigwood. Rolling Stone magazine was what I
referring to as the RS not liking Olivia's voice. I don't think Rolling
Stone liked any singer or band that was popular with the vast majority
of the public. Rolling Stone was one of the first to start doing a list
of the Top 100 Best Albums genre. Their first list included an album by
Van Morrison that only sold three copies. Rolling Stone claimed the
album was influential, which I thought was a rather dubious claim. They
also used Morrison's album as a justification to dismiss the Bee Gees's
thirty-five million sales for "Saturday Night Fever" as not being
influential.
I thought, wait a minute here - an album which only sold three copies
and barely known about is more influential than an album which sold
thirty-five million worldwide? Someone at Rolling Stone needed a
reality check! If memory serves, that list (which I believe was late
80s or early 90s) included every artist with a ten million selling
album up to that time except the Bee Gees and Olivia. Course, slighting
an artist has always been one of Rolling Stone's worst traits, which
they see as a positive.
Re: Olivia Live:
> **Okay, I'm not as angry now. Her singing live on the Olivia special
> is nothing short of amazing. They can all go suck cheese.
>
When I saw Olivia in concert last year, I was blown away by how
letter perfect her vocals were: no wrong notes, no strain in her voice
to reach the high notes...she was simply amazing. She encored with the
best version I ever heard her doing on "I Honestly Love You" - she
bested the original 1974 version and the version from "Back With A
Heart." I kept wishing she had performed "Don't Cry For Me Argentina."
Her version of that song still puts Madonna's version to shame.
Re: Olivia Said What???:
> **Two of a Kind! Yea, I remember her taking a bite of those edible
> sunglasses and saying: They taste like shit! I was like: Oh my god,
> Olivia Newton John just said SHIT! :)
>
I remember that. Olivia had such a goody-two shoes image, one tended
to have that kind of shocked reaction. Course, in the early 80s, Olivia
was shocking a lot of people with her music as well. I never understood
all the upset with her on the questionable sexual overtones of
"Physical" yet the very little being said about the blatantly sexual
overtones in "Soul Kiss."
Re: ABBA Meets DC:
> **The one with the longer interview?
If the one with the longer interview includes the second concert;
I've never been sure what the differences were between the two filmed
concerts for the special. I know the concert I remember seeing on TV
circa 1981-82 isn't the one I have on tape. The one I remember included
a few extra songs which I think were added in later and not part of the
actual concert.
Re: Karen Carpenter:
> **I agree. Some of those performances were late 70s, early 80 or 81.
> Did she die in 81? She looked like she was 77 pounds in those.
>
Karen died on February 4, 1983 at age 32. Way, way too young to die.
Re: An Image Problem or An Illness, Perhaps?
<snipped>
> This girl is like 6'2" and I'll be damned if she was 100 pounds. NO
> fat, No muscle, the skin was just laying on the bone. I was freaked
> out. She was so happy to see me, she jabbered away. I walked away and
> seriously, I was depressed because I knew that she doesn't have long.
> It's just not possible. I can't believe how bothered I am by it. She
> must have a body dysmorphic problem. My God. Just the other day, I was
> thinking about it. I don't know how she was even walking. I hate that
> she can't see what she really looks like even way back when. Tall,
> Germanic with dark blonde hair and blue eyes. :-/ It just really threw
> me.
>
It could be she has a very poor image of herself, perhaps thinking
by being so thin, others will find her attractive. Depending on her
age, if it's an illness, could it be something other than anorexia? Do
you really think she can't see what she really looks like? Maybe she's
aware but in denial, just didn't want to talk about it. Part of denial
is the belief that if you don't think or talk about your illness, it
will go away and you'll be okay.
I think we're bothered by the mortality of others near our age
because it's a reminder of our own mortality. I know I am with the
events going on in my life. I joke that I'm going to live 250 years
with options for renewal but I know I'll be damned lucky if I live to a
third of that. I'm not in a hurry to reach the end of my life but the
end is beyond my control; just hope it's many years down the road,
later than sooner.
Re: Karen's Mom:
> **Karen's Mom blamed Olivia in some way? Wow, I'd like to know that
> story. However, I bet Mom wasn't without some or a lot of the blame
> herself. They all seemed like perfectionists.
>
It's been some time since I read that book and will check the library
to see if they still have a copy. Sometimes, parents see the worst in
others and seldom see the worst in themselves. I think it was claimed
in Olivia's case, that she was a party girl who often took Karen along
to the parties she was invited to. I don't think Olivia was adverse to
having a drink and I don't ever recall hearing about her being drunk or
having a drug problem. As thin as Karen was, it would only have took
one or two drinks for her to be legally drunk, so maybe that was the
problem.
kaboom
<snipped political stuff>
**Bush is a boob in corporate America's pocket, Rove runs the country
and Cheney is Satan. Well, that sums it all up. ;)
>Re: BestBuyBurnsBoomie:
> I think part of the problem with corporate America has to be they're
>getting more anal by the day with their customers, forgetting the old
>maxim/cliche, the customer is always right. You don't tick off the
>customer, you want to keep them coming back to your store and so you do
>whatever it takes to keep the customer satisfied. I would assume your
>gift still had the Best Buy sticker with the Best Buy product code, so
>they would've known the product was bought in a Best Buy store, even if
>it wasn't bought in that particular store.
**Honestly, I believe that the customer isn't always right. There are
a lot of people out there looking for a free lunch. I'm glad companies
crack down on stopping returned-items abuse, they do end up costing
regular customers. However, don't crack down on those who have
*legitimate* problems. For instance, they should allow people to make
a receiptless return once a year or something. Don't give people carte
blanche to do whatever they want but place a type of limit on certain
returns. To sit there and blankly look at me and say: You need a
receipt and have no other recourse at all was just amazing to me. They
say You need a receipt because they don't want to say: Haha, you're
fucked! :)
> Mother frackers...lmao...that's a good one! I like your humor, girl.
>Very original.
**Haha! Thank Battlestar Galactica. One day, at work, my coworker and
I started adding fracking/frack this/frack you to everything. We were
laughing hysterically until the other coworker gave us 'the look' and
we settled down.
>Re: Cheesy Movies like Damnation Alley:
> That's not on DVD?
**No, it's not. Someone somewhere is worthy of my scorn. I went to the
Motorcity Comic Con over the weekend and one guy had all of these
really cool old movies like The Quiet Earth, Crack in the Earth and
Damnation Alley on DVD-R. I didn't buy it though. It should be on
soon. Just checked: Fox Movie Channel on Oct. 19th at 8pm. Cool! It's
on the 29th also.
I got a trading card with Linda Hamilton's autograph on it. Sweet!
It's from a 2003 T2 trading card set. I got 4 CDs. One is a collection
of anime tunes. It's pretty good. One is a collection of Joe Hisaishi
music and it's awful :-/ He does music for Miyazaki movies like
Spirited Away but I don't know where this music if from. I have a 2nd
Hisaishi CD that's pretty good, he's doing music from different
directors. The 4th one is the soundtrack to the anime Metropolis and
it's fantastic! I'm totally addicted to it and I haven't even seen the
anime yet. I also got a DVD-R of 70s commercials :)
>Re: Boomie Is:
>
>> **Holy crap, I'm 12!
>>
> LOL! If you could be given that for your birthday, would you want to
>be 12 again? Or some other age you remember with fondness? Or, would
>you rather be the age you are now?
**Eh, if I can go back with the brain I have now, I might give it a
shot :)
>Re: The Plight of Greenbeans:
>
>> **Greenbeans are evil.
>>
> LOL! Okay, I gotta know: is there a story behind your dislike of
>greenbeans?
**There is none. They just spread their evil whenever you put them in
something. Oh, and they taste bad. :)
>Re: Olivia Live:
>
>> **Okay, I'm not as angry now. Her singing live on the Olivia special
>> is nothing short of amazing. They can all go suck cheese.
>>
> When I saw Olivia in concert last year, I was blown away by how
>letter perfect her vocals were: no wrong notes, no strain in her voice
>to reach the high notes...she was simply amazing. She encored with the
>best version I ever heard her doing on "I Honestly Love You" - she
>bested the original 1974 version and the version from "Back With A
>Heart." I kept wishing she had performed "Don't Cry For Me Argentina."
>Her version of that song still puts Madonna's version to shame.
**Anything puts Madonna's vocals to shame. In the early 80s, HBO would
play an Olivia concert a lot. I'd like to have a copy of that.
>Re: An Image Problem or An Illness, Perhaps? Anorexic girl>
> It could be she has a very poor image of herself, perhaps thinking
>by being so thin, others will find her attractive. Depending on her
>age, if it's an illness, could it be something other than anorexia? Do
>you really think she can't see what she really looks like? Maybe she's
>aware but in denial, just didn't want to talk about it. Part of denial
>is the belief that if you don't think or talk about your illness, it
>will go away and you'll be okay.
**Anorexia is a type of body dysmorphic syndrome. In her skeletal
state, she looks in the mirror and sees someone who is fat. I don't
think it was another illness because she showed signs of problems
early on with wearing really garish makeup and things like that. I
don't think she's in denial about anything and I think her mind's eye
really sees a fat person when she looks into the mirror. This is some
really weird stuff. I'm more concerned by the fact that nobody is
stopping this obvious death spiral.
I mean what's with this uber-skinny shit anyway? What the hell did
Lindsay Lohan do to herself? I look back at Agnetha and Frida and
think that they were two damn fine women that didn't slim down to
twigs and no big deal. The concept of ideal woman has changed from
then til now.
kaboomie
infiniteman
> and Cheney is Satan. Well, that sums it all up. ;)
>
think we're going to see an implosion resulting from his incompetence.
However, I don't think we'll see Bush or Cheney or their friends go
quietly into the night; I was hoping Tom Delay was going to pack it in
but oh no, he wants a fight to try and stay out of prison.
> **Honestly, I believe that the customer isn't always right. There are
> a lot of people out there looking for a free lunch. I'm glad companies
> crack down on stopping returned-items abuse, they do end up costing
> regular customers. However, don't crack down on those who have
> *legitimate* problems.
Perhaps an alternate method of returning defective merchandise would
be the manufacturer being required to include a return slip with the
item, which would allow the customer to return the item to the
manufacturer in exchange for a good copy or a refund. I hang on to
store receipts until I've checked the item out completely but there are
some stores here whose managers won't accept or allow their employees
to accept a returned item, despite laws which allow consumers a certain
period of time to return merchandise.
>For instance, they should allow people to make
> a receiptless return once a year or something. Don't give people carte
> blanche to do whatever they want but place a type of limit on certain
> returns. To sit there and blankly look at me and say: You need a
> receipt and have no other recourse at all was just amazing to me. They
> say You need a receipt because they don't want to say: Haha, you're
> fucked! :)
>
That's where a return slip included with the item could come in
handy; limiting people to a certain number of returns could also work
to some degree. But, what about individuals who may have extrememly
rotten luck and manage to get more than their fair share of damaged or
defective merchandise? Unlikely but I have known people who, if they
didn't have bad luck, they'd have no luck at all.
It shouldn't matter to the store if an item is defective or damage
because if the item is in their inventory, the store will receive
credit on the return from the manufacturer and distributor. Course, the
store accepting returned merchandise will lose the money made from the
mark-up on the item. But, with most of the stores, they're not making a
lot of money off of the cds or dvds to begin with unless they happen to
be stores which deal exclusively with cds and dvds.
> **Haha! Thank Battlestar Galactica. One day, at work, my coworker and
> I started adding fracking/frack this/frack you to everything. We were
> laughing hysterically until the other coworker gave us 'the look' and
> we settled down.
>
Was this coworker a supervisor or anyone who could've written up you
and your coworker if you didn't settle down? My belief is that as long
as it doesn't interfere with your work and getting the job done, they
should just shut the frack up. My previous job, the managers at all
levels were always talking down to the employees, treating them like
they were slaves - even one of the mid-level managers spoke of the need
to crack the whip, write up employees who weren't productive, didn't
exceed the benchmarks, who spent a good deal of time talking, fire any
employee who missed more than three days. I didn't believe in the
excessive abuse of power or treating people like they were nothing - I
felt a good many mid-level managers and upper managers should've lost
their jobs. They should've led by example and not by aristocratic
thinking.
> >Re: Cheesy Movies like Damnation Alley:
>
> > That's not on DVD?
>
> **No, it's not. Someone somewhere is worthy of my scorn. I went to the
> Motorcity Comic Con over the weekend and one guy had all of these
> really cool old movies like The Quiet Earth, Crack in the Earth and
> Damnation Alley on DVD-R. I didn't buy it though. It should be on
> soon. Just checked: Fox Movie Channel on Oct. 19th at 8pm. Cool! It's
> on the 29th also.
I think Flix has also been airing the movie. I lost my satellite
guide for October and have to check the onscreen guide, which only goes
out about 48 hours in advance. Occasionally, Flix has a good B-movie I
want to see based on the synopsis of the movie in the guide and may end
up missing as I didn't immediately recognize the title later on because
I forgot about it!
I'd like to see "Damnation Alley" released on dvd with some really
good extras. But, it would probably be our luck the extras would be
something like interviews with the cast members thirty years later
talking about their involvement with the movie...or trying to remember
if they were in the movie. Personally, I'd settle for an alternate
version of the movie with deleted scenes but I know, Hollywood ain't a
gonna listen to the fans.
>
> I got a trading card with Linda Hamilton's autograph on it. Sweet!
> It's from a 2003 T2 trading card set. I got 4 CDs. One is a collection
> of anime tunes. It's pretty good. One is a collection of Joe Hisaishi
> music and it's awful :-/ He does music for Miyazaki movies like
> Spirited Away but I don't know where this music if from. I have a 2nd
> Hisaishi CD that's pretty good, he's doing music from different
> directors. The 4th one is the soundtrack to the anime Metropolis and
> it's fantastic! I'm totally addicted to it and I haven't even seen the
> anime yet. I also got a DVD-R of 70s commercials :)
>
Some fantastic stuff there...I like some of the tunes from the animes
but didn't realize there were cds available. Will have to check the
stores here to see if they have those cds. I used to collect trading
cards but lost interest over the years and ended up losing almost all
of it. Look at what some people pay now for that stuff and wonder what
the hell was I thinking? It was the same way with school lunch
boxes...I'm blown away by the thought of someone paying $3000 for an
old school lunch box. Another what the hell was I thinking?
So, what's on the dvd-r of 70s commercials? TVLand occasionally runs
old commercials and the commercials have bad color and even worse, bad
sound and look horrendously dated. Guess my favorite commercial was the
Life cereal commercial with Mikey - what a subliminal message that
commercial sent out to young viewers. My least favorite would be Madge
the beautician dipping her customer's hand into the liquid Palmolive
dish soap to sdoften their hands. Just once I wanted to see someone
take that bowl of liquid soap and dump it on Madge's face!
A lot of the commercials I'd like to see are from the 50s and 60s
and featured stars of the TV shows promoting their sponsors's products,
giving the commercials a tie-in to the show. Some of it was downright
bizarre and more entertaining than the shows themselves.
> >Re: Boomie Is:
> >
> >> **Holy crap, I'm 12!
> >>
> > LOL! If you could be given that for your birthday, would you want to
> >be 12 again? Or some other age you remember with fondness? Or, would
> >you rather be the age you are now?
>
> **Eh, if I can go back with the brain I have now, I might give it a
> shot :)
>
I'd do it in a minute but only if I could change a few things that
affected me or things I didn't act up on and should have.
> >Re: The Plight of Greenbeans:
> **There is none. They just spread their evil whenever you put them in
> something. Oh, and they taste bad. :)
Lima beans has the same effect on me...I can think of no useful
reason for them to exist.
> **Anything puts Madonna's vocals to shame. In the early 80s, HBO would
> play an Olivia concert a lot. I'd like to have a copy of that.
>
Was that the one she did from Australia or another concert? I'm
thinking she did a couple of concerts for HBO: one from the "Totally
Hot"/"Physical" era and the Australian concert which included material
from "The Rumour." I remember there was a video separate from the
concert on a song titled "Big and Strong" and a patriotic song Olivia
wrote honoring Australia, which I think was titled, "It's Australia for
Me."
> >Re: An Image Problem or An Illness, Perhaps? Anorexic girl>
> **Anorexia is a type of body dysmorphic syndrome. In her skeletal
> state, she looks in the mirror and sees someone who is fat. I don't
> think it was another illness because she showed signs of problems
> early on with wearing really garish makeup and things like that. I
> don't think she's in denial about anything and I think her mind's eye
> really sees a fat person when she looks into the mirror. This is some
> really weird stuff. I'm more concerned by the fact that nobody is
> stopping this obvious death spiral.
>
I'm not sure anyone can make another person wake up to what they're
doing to themselves. It's like the person is in a hypnotized state.
They will hear what they want to hear and nothing else. Sometimes, they
almost have to be in a near-death state to realize what they've doing
to themselves, even though by then, it may be too late.
> I mean what's with this uber-skinny shit anyway? What the hell did
> Lindsay Lohan do to herself? I look back at Agnetha and Frida and
> think that they were two damn fine women that didn't slim down to
> twigs and no big deal. The concept of ideal woman has changed from
> then til now.
Lindsay's what, still in her teens? Not even legal age?
Unfortunately, Hollywood never learned anything. Judy Garland had a
weight problem as a minor and was given drugs when she was still a
minor to control her weight so audiences would find her pleasing to
look at. Sadly, her addiction to the drugs were prescribed by her movie
studio through their in-house doctors and they never did anything to
wean her off the drugs nor did any law or medical authorities hold the
executives responsible for her addiction accountable for their actions.
Lohan and all other child performers and their parents as well should
be aware of just how Hollywood will discard them once they've reached a
certain age. Maybe some will be lucky to escape the trap of being
childhood stars and hopefully realize they don't need to be all that
skinny. But as long as the focus is on the extremely thin look...
kaboom
<re the Shrub administration>
> Except for the final chapter in Dubya Bush's presidency for which I
>think we're going to see an implosion resulting from his incompetence.
>However, I don't think we'll see Bush or Cheney or their friends go
>quietly into the night; I was hoping Tom Delay was going to pack it in
>but oh no, he wants a fight to try and stay out of prison.
**Did you see his mug shot? LOL! Smiling as wide as his mouth will let
him and, let me tell you, it was by design. No using that mugshot for
posters or Tshirts. I say make him go back and have to follow the
rules all the other criminals do: No smiling and holding up some
numbers. I like how he gets to cherrypick his own judge.
>> **Haha! Thank Battlestar Galactica. One day, at work, my coworker and
>> I started adding fracking/frack this/frack you to everything. We were
>> laughing hysterically until the other coworker gave us 'the look' and
>> we settled down.
>>
> Was this coworker a supervisor or anyone who could've written up you
>and your coworker if you didn't settle down? My belief is that as long
>as it doesn't interfere with your work and getting the job done, they
>should just shut the frack up.
**My thought too. No, this co-worker couldn't have done squat. She
just rolls her eyeballs a lot and we laugh at her. She's straight as
an arrow and has this notion of the way things should be. So I wrote
up a list of her odd 'rules' and called them <Name's> Fatwah. It's
hilarious. Like no dipping carrots in onion dip, that's reserved for
chips preferably Ruffles.
<snipped treatise on snotty managers>
**I've had my fill also. Absolutely no notion of how to treat people
or of how to get the most out of their employees. It's the Peter
Principle over and over and over.
>> >Re: Cheesy Movies like Damnation Alley:
> I'd like to see "Damnation Alley" released on dvd with some really
>good extras. But, it would probably be our luck the extras would be
>something like interviews with the cast members thirty years later
>talking about their involvement with the movie...or trying to remember
>if they were in the movie. Personally, I'd settle for an alternate
>version of the movie with deleted scenes but I know, Hollywood ain't a
>gonna listen to the fans.
**Well, they better hurry up with the Dee-luxe edition because people
are dying off. George Peppard is dead, right? Do you like the old War
of the Worlds? I watched it the other night and it was fantastic
especially the 'making of' program. I'm going to get some other George
Pal (producer) flicks. The two actors, Gene Barry and Ann Robinson,
are still alive and they do commentary throughout the film. I didn't
listen to it but Ann Robinson was awesome during the 'making of' bit.
She remembered names, special effects, everything, she was very cool.
<snipped list of comic con acquisitions>
> Some fantastic stuff there...I like some of the tunes from the animes
>but didn't realize there were cds available. Will have to check the
>stores here to see if they have those cds.
**Get the soundtrack to Spirited Away. I highly recommend it.
>I used to collect trading
>cards but lost interest over the years and ended up losing almost all
>of it. Look at what some people pay now for that stuff and wonder what
>the hell was I thinking? It was the same way with school lunch
>boxes...I'm blown away by the thought of someone paying $3000 for an
>old school lunch box. Another what the hell was I thinking?
**I used to have an Evil Knievel lunch box :)
> So, what's on the dvd-r of 70s commercials? TVLand occasionally runs
>old commercials and the commercials have bad color and even worse, bad
>sound and look horrendously dated. Guess my favorite commercial was the
>Life cereal commercial with Mikey - what a subliminal message that
>commercial sent out to young viewers. My least favorite would be Madge
>the beautician dipping her customer's hand into the liquid Palmolive
>dish soap to sdoften their hands. Just once I wanted to see someone
>take that bowl of liquid soap and dump it on Madge's face!
"You're soaking in it!!" Aaaaaah, splat! I haven't watched the DVDs
yet. I'll keep you informed.
> A lot of the commercials I'd like to see are from the 50s and 60s
>and featured stars of the TV shows promoting their sponsors's products,
>giving the commercials a tie-in to the show. Some of it was downright
>bizarre and more entertaining than the shows themselves.
**There's a commercial DVD of that. I'll probably be getting it. Maybe
we'll get Ronald Reagan telling us Lucky Strikes are good for you :)
>> **Anything puts Madonna's vocals to shame. In the early 80s, HBO would
>> play an Olivia concert a lot. I'd like to have a copy of that.
>>
> Was that the one she did from Australia or another concert? I'm
>thinking she did a couple of concerts for HBO: one from the "Totally
>Hot"/"Physical" era and the Australian concert which included material
>from "The Rumour." I remember there was a video separate from the
>concert on a song titled "Big and Strong" and a patriotic song Olivia
>wrote honoring Australia, which I think was titled, "It's Australia for
>Me."
**Ummmmmmm, uh, huh. I don't know for sure. She had "Physical" hair
with the headband. Did a scorching version of Jolene. I think it was
the one from the Totally Hot/Physical era.
>> I mean what's with this uber-skinny shit anyway? What the hell did
>> Lindsay Lohan do to herself? I look back at Agnetha and Frida and
>> think that they were two damn fine women that didn't slim down to
>> twigs and no big deal. The concept of ideal woman has changed from
>> then til now.
>
> Lindsay's what, still in her teens? Not even legal age?
**I think she's over legal age but not even 20. I want to throw a
pizza at her and make her dye her hair back to red. What was she
thinking?
>Unfortunately, Hollywood never learned anything. Judy Garland had a
>weight problem as a minor and was given drugs when she was still a
>minor to control her weight so audiences would find her pleasing to
>look at. Sadly, her addiction to the drugs were prescribed by her movie
>studio through their in-house doctors and they never did anything to
>wean her off the drugs nor did any law or medical authorities hold the
>executives responsible for her addiction accountable for their actions.
**I love Judy Garland. What happened to her is just disgusting. She
died at, what, 47? She looked like she was 80. Appalling. She being
taken advantage of right up to the end.
> Lohan and all other child performers and their parents as well should
>be aware of just how Hollywood will discard them once they've reached a
>certain age. Maybe some will be lucky to escape the trap of being
>childhood stars and hopefully realize they don't need to be all that
>skinny. But as long as the focus is on the extremely thin look...
**Lohan's dad is so fucked up, I can hardly believe she turned out so
well compared to him. I actually like Lindsey, I hope she does well. I
think she's pretty talented, not like that no-talent Hilary Duff :)
kaboomie
infiniteman
> **Did you see his mug shot? LOL! Smiling as wide as his mouth will let
> him and, let me tell you, it was by design. No using that mugshot for
> posters or Tshirts. I say make him go back and have to follow the
> rules all the other criminals do: No smiling and holding up some
> numbers. I like how he gets to cherrypick his own judge.
>
I saw it...thought, what a smirking little creep. Very sickening.
What I hope for is that in cherrypicking his own judge, that it somehow
backfires on him. With the judge who was a Democrat and gave to
Democratic causes, I felt that judge would've gone to great lengths to
insure Delay received a fair trial so that if he was convicted and sent
to prison, he couldn't have argued before the court of appeals or the
Supremes that he didn't receive a fair trial. Delay may feel with the
*right* judge and *right* jury, he will be exonerated and sent back to
his criminal ways.
The only problem with that line of thinking is the *right* judge will
have to think about his own political future: what the consequences
will be if he or she does everything in his or her power that would
insure Delay walks. I think for that reason, the judge will have to
walk a very fine line: he can't be seen as being too impartial to
either side and has got to appear as truly being interested in seeing
justice served. If the public perceives the judge is being too
impartial to Delay and he's acquitted, they're going to think there was
some sort of chicanery going on and that a guilty man walked away free.
While Delay would no doubt be happy about such an outcome, the judge in
the case might rue the day he got into bed with Delay when he came up
for reelection.
Re: Fracked Up:
> **My thought too. No, this co-worker couldn't have done squat. She
> just rolls her eyeballs a lot and we laugh at her. She's straight as
> an arrow and has this notion of the way things should be. So I wrote
> up a list of her odd 'rules' and called them <Name's> Fatwah. It's
> hilarious. Like no dipping carrots in onion dip, that's reserved for
> chips preferably Ruffles.
>
Horrors! No dipping carrots in onion dip? What twisted behavior...she
must've lived a very sheltered life and very naive. I can't imagine
anyone on a power trip so extreme that it would go so far as to include
what can or can't be dipped in onion dip. She'd probably freak out at
seeing people dipping french fries or celery into onion dip.
Re: Overpaid Managers:
> <snipped treatise on snotty managers>
>
> **I've had my fill also. Absolutely no notion of how to treat people
> or of how to get the most out of their employees. It's the Peter
> Principle over and over and over.
>
Sad thing is, too many people are afraid to rattle the cage out of
fear they won't have a job if they do. With my old job, the district
manager was opposed to the idea of employees going to the restroom when
they needed to go. He wanted any employee docked of time if they took
too much time in the restroom. Had a production supervisor who felt the
same way about giving employees a lunch break during any job which took
up more than eight hours to complete.
These people got away with the b.s. they pulled because either no one
would complain or the agencies they complained to would claim they had
no jurisdiction. I know for a fact that complaints about those
practices were being made at the state and federal levels but neither
the state or the federal agencies would get involved because each would
claim the other as the one having the jurisdiction in the case.
Re: Damnation Alley Deluxe Edition:
> **Well, they better hurry up with the Dee-luxe edition because people
> are dying off. George Peppard is dead, right? Do you like the old War
> of the Worlds? I watched it the other night and it was fantastic
> especially the 'making of' program. I'm going to get some other George
> Pal (producer) flicks. The two actors, Gene Barry and Ann Robinson,
> are still alive and they do commentary throughout the film. I didn't
> listen to it but Ann Robinson was awesome during the 'making of' bit.
> She remembered names, special effects, everything, she was very cool.
>
George Peppard is dead. Think the other actors are alive although
whether the screenwriters, producers, director and others involved in
the making of the movie are still living, I'm not sure. If memory
serves, think it was science fiction writer Roger Zelazny (think that's
how his last name was spelled) who wrote the "Damnation Alley" book --
he's dead and had been dead for some time before the movie was
produced.
Yep, I'm a fan of the 1950s version of War of the Worlds and a fan of
many of the movies produced by George Pal. Wow, I hadn't thought about
Gene Barry in a long time...if anyone would've asked, I would've said
he's dead. Barry appeared in a TV series in the late 60s and early 70s,
"Name of the Game" -- one of the episodes was a science fiction
apocalyptic offering by the late science fiction writer Phillip Wylie,
"L.A. 2017." The main storyline dealt with politics and the ecology but
Wylie had to be something of a prophet: his script and story also dealt
with aging rock musicians still playing together into their 70s! Most
rock musicians during that time felt they would be out of the rock and
roll game by the time they were 30 or 40...that no one would still be
interested in them when they were in their 50s or older. Wylie was
definitely a man ahead of his time.
Oh, now that I'm thinking about Wylie, I think he's got a connection
to George Pal as well. Wylie wrote or co-wrote a book that I believe
Pal produced as a movie: "When Worlds Collide." Earth is doomed and a
handful of earthlings plan on escaping most of humanity's final
outcome, annihilation, by leaving Earth for life on a new world.
Course, the rest of humanity doesn't take it too kindly when they learn
that they are going to be left behind to be wiped out of existence and
they try to keep the chosen few from leaving, which they fail to do.
Interesting movie.
Re: The Lunch Box That Jumped Over Idaho's Snake River Canyon:
> **I used to have an Evil Knievel lunch box :)
>
Evel was a pretty gutsy guy in his day...I remember the coverage the
networks gave him on his attempt to jump the Snake River Canyon with
his rocket-modified motorcycle or rocketcycle. That lunch box might
have made it even though Evel only made it about half way. The last
thing I remember hearing on him was that he wanted doctors to remove
his spine so he could jump out of a plane without a parachute and fall
to the ground. He believed that without the spine, he could survive the
fall -- the AMA wasn't as sure and threatened to revoke the surgical
licenses on any doctors who assisted him. They didn't need to make the
threat: the doctors didn't want to get involved on that one.
Re: How Do You Like Palmolive Now, Madge?:
> "You're soaking in it!!" Aaaaaah, splat! I haven't watched the DVDs
> yet. I'll keep you informed.
>
Another commercial that made me cringe from the 60s was the Folgers
commercial which featured Mrs. Olson. According to Mrs. Olson, all of
life's problems could be solved with a cup of Folgers's coffee. Such an
annoying character...she even got on Michael Landon's nerves (he
appeared on some show in the 70s and made a comment about what he'd
like to see happen to Mrs. Olson).
And...
> **There's a commercial DVD of that. I'll probably be getting it. Maybe
> we'll get Ronald Reagan telling us Lucky Strikes are good for you :)
>
I've seen some...Reagan did do a few commercials for the cigarette
companies as well as commercials for Borax handsoap. All the major cast
members of the "Beverly Hillbillies" series did comemrcials for Winston
cigarettes -- they also did commercials singing the praises of Post
cereals. Singing for real, which should've been enough to have
warranted canceling the show.
Re: Olivia in the Land of Oz:
> **Ummmmmmm, uh, huh. I don't know for sure. She had "Physical" hair
> with the headband. Did a scorching version of Jolene. I think it was
> the one from the Totally Hot/Physical era.
>
May have been the earlier one then; even though "Jolene" has been an
Olivia staple in many of her concerts (including the one she did last
year), don't think it was included in the Oz concert which included
songs from "The Rumour" album. Don't remember Olivia wearing the
headband during that concert either.
Btw, didja see Olivia last night on the Country Music Awards? I was
out of town for a family member's funeral and got back home after it
started but wasn't particularly interested in watching it anyway. Had I
known Olivia was going to be on, I probably would've tuned in. My
brother watched it and said Olivia was on the show and that she looked
old...I replied that I didn't care how old she is or how old she
looked...she'll never be old in my eyes.
Re: Lindsay Lohan:
>
> **I think she's over legal age but not even 20. I want to throw a
> pizza at her and make her dye her hair back to red. What was she
> thinking?
>
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! Hope she's smart enough to save some of that
money, just in case her career fades as she grows more older. Still, I
see a lot of *young* people in movies who shouldn't have a career in
movies but they do despite having no talent.
Re: Somewhere Over the Rainbow:
> **I love Judy Garland. What happened to her is just disgusting. She
> died at, what, 47? She looked like she was 80. Appalling. She being
> taken advantage of right up to the end.
>
That was a very sad ending which needn't have happened but her pain
was so great, it may not have been possible for anyone to have
prevented her death. She did look older than what she actually was but
even sadder was she looked that way many years before her death...I've
seen photos and film clips of her from TV shows when she was in her
late 30s or early 40s and at the minimum, she almost always appeared to
be a good 10 to 15 years older than what she was -- sometimes even
older. It seemed as though she was aging two or three times faster than
anyone else.
Re: Lohan and Duff:
> **Lohan's dad is so fucked up, I can hardly believe she turned out so
> well compared to him. I actually like Lindsey, I hope she does well. I
> think she's pretty talented, not like that no-talent Hilary Duff :)
I think Lohan will continue to do well for some time as long as she
can avoid the kind of kiddie fare Duff seems to be doing too much of.
Lohan's dad is such an embarrassment, he should do all he can do to
avoid the limelight. But, do you think being Lohan's dad, he's
intentionally trying to draw attention to himself or could it be the
news media doesn't have anything better to do than cover the comings
and goings of a young actress's father?
I don't see Duff as a no-talent but I think her handlers ought to be
moving her away from the kiddie shows and movies (that she's been doing
since she was a kid) and making the transistion to roles more
appropriate for the young adult she's becoming.
But, as long as Duff is underage and her parents have authorized her
managers to approve certain roles, she'll probably keep getting the
kiddie fare stuff until she reaches legal age. Until then, she may not
have a say in what she can or can't take on. She may not like the roles
she's getting or being trapped as a teen idol and it's possible the
kind of success she's had as a child star may keep her from having the
same kind of success as an adult.
And she'd join a long list of stars Hollywood turned its corporate
back on, all because she wasn't a kid or teen anymore.
kaboom
I-man intoned for all to hear:
<snipped political stuff, adds this:>
The other day, I read that Bush's numbers are going back up. He
finally admits to 'faulty' (more like ignored) intelligence and there
were actually some Americans who said: Hey, he's okay now! I approve!
Holy crap. For cripessakes, at some point will you please be utterly
appalled at what's going on?!
>Re: Fracked Up:
>
>> **My thought too. No, this co-worker couldn't have done squat. She
>> just rolls her eyeballs a lot and we laugh at her. She's straight as
>> an arrow and has this notion of the way things should be. So I wrote
>> up a list of her odd 'rules' and called them <Name's> Fatwah. It's
>> hilarious. Like no dipping carrots in onion dip, that's reserved for
>> chips preferably Ruffles.
>>
> Horrors! No dipping carrots in onion dip? What twisted behavior...she
>must've lived a very sheltered life and very naive.
**I kinda think this, they can't conceive of things done differently.
>I can't imagine
>anyone on a power trip so extreme that it would go so far as to include
>what can or can't be dipped in onion dip. She'd probably freak out at
>seeing people dipping french fries or celery into onion dip.
**This is where it gets very entertaining for us :) We violate as many
'rules' as possible when we're bored. Her eyerolling is priceless. :)
It's quite fun to sit around and poke her with a sharp stick. However,
I really like her a lot, she's pretty cool despite her rules :)
>Re: Damnation Alley Deluxe Edition:
> If memory
>serves, think it was science fiction writer Roger Zelazny (think that's
>how his last name was spelled) who wrote the "Damnation Alley" book --
>he's dead and had been dead for some time before the movie was
>produced.
**I'm guessing that that's a good thing. :)
> Yep, I'm a fan of the 1950s version of War of the Worlds and a fan of
>many of the movies produced by George Pal.
**Have you ever seen The Puppetoon Movie? Way back in the 30s and 40s,
George Pal did stop-motion animation shorts called Puppetoons. I heard
about this when the woman in War of the Worlds talked about it. So I
looked it up and discovered that it's on DVD. So I bought it and
brought it back to CT hoping that the nieces would be entertained. I
ended up being really entertained. It was so cool. The actual movie is
bookended by some modern stopmotion where they talk about honoring
George Pal etc. Then they run a bunch of shorts in the middle. There
are also a bunch of bonus shorts on there. It had some awesome
laugh-aloud moments, good music and excellent visuals for it being so
long ago. Two thumbs up!
> Oh, now that I'm thinking about Wylie, I think he's got a connection
>to George Pal as well. Wylie wrote or co-wrote a book that I believe
>Pal produced as a movie: "When Worlds Collide." Earth is doomed and a
>handful of earthlings plan on escaping most of humanity's final
>outcome, annihilation, by leaving Earth for life on a new world.
>Course, the rest of humanity doesn't take it too kindly when they learn
>that they are going to be left behind to be wiped out of existence and
>they try to keep the chosen few from leaving, which they fail to do.
>Interesting movie.
**That movie was next on my George Pal list! I think it's being remade
by Spielberg or someone. I got the new War of the Worlds on DVD but I
didn't watch it yet.
>Re: The Lunch Box That Jumped Over Idaho's Snake River Canyon:
**Hahaha! That's funny! Until I realized my lunch was still in it...
>> **I used to have an Evil Knievel lunch box :)
>>
> Evel was a pretty gutsy guy in his day...I remember the coverage the
>networks gave him on his attempt to jump the Snake River Canyon with
>his rocket-modified motorcycle or rocketcycle. That lunch box might
>have made it even though Evel only made it about half way. The last
>thing I remember hearing on him was that he wanted doctors to remove
>his spine so he could jump out of a plane without a parachute and fall
>to the ground. He believed that without the spine, he could survive the
>fall -- the AMA wasn't as sure and threatened to revoke the surgical
>licenses on any doctors who assisted him. They didn't need to make the
>threat: the doctors didn't want to get involved on that one.
**That's just...um...nuts.
>Re: How Do You Like Palmolive Now, Madge?:
>
>> "You're soaking in it!!" Aaaaaah, splat! I haven't watched the DVDs
>> yet. I'll keep you informed.
>>
> Another commercial that made me cringe from the 60s was the Folgers
>commercial which featured Mrs. Olson. According to Mrs. Olson, all of
>life's problems could be solved with a cup of Folgers's coffee. Such an
>annoying character...she even got on Michael Landon's nerves (he
>appeared on some show in the 70s and made a comment about what he'd
>like to see happen to Mrs. Olson).
**I finally viewed the DVDs with the commercials on them. They did
have one Mrs. Olson commercial but she was REALLY young looking. I
would've thought highly if Landon kicked her ass :) Maybe he did, I
remember her being in a leg cast at one point.
>And...
>
>> **There's a commercial DVD of that. I'll probably be getting it. Maybe
>> we'll get Ronald Reagan telling us Lucky Strikes are good for you :)
>>
> I've seen some...Reagan did do a few commercials for the cigarette
>companies as well as commercials for Borax handsoap. All the major cast
>members of the "Beverly Hillbillies" series did comemrcials for Winston
>cigarettes -- they also did commercials singing the praises of Post
>cereals. Singing for real, which should've been enough to have
>warranted canceling the show.
**Worse than all of the above: They had The Flintstones, brought to
you by...Winston. Then they have Barney and Fred in the front yard
watching the girls do all the work. Fred's like: I'm getting tired
watching them, let's go have a smoke in the backyard. So then B and F
are smoking away in the backyard. My eyes were buggin out of my head,
No way, man! I couldn't believe it. Did they sell Gerber baby foods
with nicotine added? It's digestable!
>Re: Olivia in the Land of Oz:
> Btw, didja see Olivia last night on the Country Music Awards? I was
>out of town for a family member's funeral and got back home after it
>started but wasn't particularly interested in watching it anyway. Had I
>known Olivia was going to be on, I probably would've tuned in. My
>brother watched it and said Olivia was on the show and that she looked
>old...I replied that I didn't care how old she is or how old she
>looked...she'll never be old in my eyes.
**No, I never watch awards shows. Though, if I know certain people are
going to be on it, I might surf through it more often.
>Re: Lindsay Lohan:
>>
>> **I think she's over legal age but not even 20. I want to throw a
>> pizza at her and make her dye her hair back to red. What was she
>> thinking?
>>
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! Hope she's smart enough to save some of that
>money, just in case her career fades as she grows more older. Still, I
>see a lot of *young* people in movies who shouldn't have a career in
>movies but they do despite having no talent.
**You're right. I like Lohan though, I do think she's talented but I
feel like she's really trying to fit way too much in right now.
kaboomie
infiniteman
> The other day, I read that Bush's numbers are going back up. He
> finally admits to 'faulty' (more like ignored) intelligence and there
> were actually some Americans who said: Hey, he's okay now! I approve!
> Holy crap. For cripessakes, at some point will you please be utterly
> appalled at what's going on?!
>
on overseas phone calls and reading e-mails doesn't shake the people
out of their self-induced political coma, Bush, I think will take that
as his mandate to keep doing more of the same. Most of the reaction
I've seen from conservatives here is of the "if it doesn't involve me,
why should I care what he does?" variety. The same individuals who for
years have hollered about getting the government out of a person's
private life. It has to impact their daily life for them to get worked
up about it.
I think there's a chance Bush could be looking at impeachment next
year for his spying on people within the US. Which would make quite a
few people happy but on the down side, if we lost Bush as president,
we'd gain Cheney as the new president unless he could be forced out of
office. Much as I don't like or trust Bush, I dislike and distrust
Cheney even more. If Bush is the anti-Christ, Cheney is the devil.
Re: Being Cool and Having Uptight Rules in the Same Space:
> **This is where it gets very entertaining for us :) We violate as many
> 'rules' as possible when we're bored. Her eyerolling is priceless. :)
> It's quite fun to sit around and poke her with a sharp stick. However,
> I really like her a lot, she's pretty cool despite her rules :)
>
Lol...sounds like her 'rules' provide her a way to interact with
others and not really meant to be taken seriously while her eyerolling
sounds more like something done for comedic effect. A couple of years
back, I'd gladly have traded you the office terrorist I (and others)
had to work with -- I would've thrown in the whip, hoop and electric
cattle prod on the deal, sharp sticks just didn't cut it. That person
managed to offend everyone working out of that office as well as other
offices and despite counseling on managing her people skills, she never
learned.
Re: Puppetoons:
> **Have you ever seen The Puppetoon Movie? Way back in the 30s and 40s,
> George Pal did stop-motion animation shorts called Puppetoons. I heard
> about this when the woman in War of the Worlds talked about it. So I
> looked it up and discovered that it's on DVD. So I bought it and
> brought it back to CT hoping that the nieces would be entertained. I
> ended up being really entertained. It was so cool. The actual movie is
> bookended by some modern stopmotion where they talk about honoring
> George Pal etc. Then they run a bunch of shorts in the middle. There
> are also a bunch of bonus shorts on there. It had some awesome
> laugh-aloud moments, good music and excellent visuals for it being so
> long ago. Two thumbs up!
>
I've seen some of them on TCM and AMC from time to time and way back
when our local UHF stations used to be independent TV stations (instead
of today being Fox, WB and UPN affiliates). These days, you can't even
get any of the cable/satellite stations or over-the-air TV stations to
run them. I'm surprised they haven't turned up on Boomerang or Cartoon
Network or back on TCM or AMC. Must have something to do with the
licensing fees.
Re: When Worlds Collide (Remake):
> **That movie was next on my George Pal list! I think it's being remade
> by Spielberg or someone. I got the new War of the Worlds on DVD but I
> didn't watch it yet.
>
Haven't heard about a remake of "When Worlds Collide" but if
Spielberg's involved, I'd go see it despite my reservations about
remakes.
Re: Lost: One Lunch Box, Last Seen In Vicinity of Snake River Canyon,
Idaho:
>
> **Hahaha! That's funny! Until I realized my lunch was still in it...
>
I have it on good authority what may have been your lunch box was
found several years later by one D.B. Cooper who, looking for food,
found mostly unedible sandwiches and a container of soured milk. But,
he did find two packages of perfectly preserved Twinkies and proceeded
to wolf them down before heading back into the forest.
Re: Evel Was Nuts!:
>>The last
> >thing I remember hearing on him was that he wanted doctors to remove
> >his spine so he could jump out of a plane without a parachute and fall
> >to the ground. He believed that without the spine, he could survive the
> >fall -- the AMA wasn't as sure and threatened to revoke the surgical
> >licenses on any doctors who assisted him. They didn't need to make the
> >threat: the doctors didn't want to get involved on that one.
>
> **That's just...um...nuts.
His idea was crazy but given his occupation was daredevil, what was
there left that he could jump, get paid for jumping and have it
televised on TV? After the jump at Snake River Canyon fizzled, I think
he realized his fifteen minutes of fame was up and it didn't end the
way he wanted it to end. And maybe he didn't make as much money as he
would have if the jump had been successful: I seem to remember he also
wanted a lot of money for removing his spine and jumping out of a plane
without a parachute.
Re: Mrs. Olson:
> **I finally viewed the DVDs with the commercials on them. They did
> have one Mrs. Olson commercial but she was REALLY young looking. I
> would've thought highly if Landon kicked her ass :) Maybe he did, I
> remember her being in a leg cast at one point.
>
Mrs. Olson, young???? Not a chance if it's the same lady who played
Mrs. Olson over the years. The lady I remember seeing was already in
her 50s when she played Mrs. Olson. As for Landon giving her a boot to
the bum,she had numerous character roles in TV series from the late 40s
and 50s on, so she may have crossed Landon's path several times during
the years Bonanza was on and he may have had the opportunity to give
her a boot to the bum.
Re: The Flintstones Smoked Winstones:
> **Worse than all of the above: They had The Flintstones, brought to
> you by...Winston. Then they have Barney and Fred in the front yard
> watching the girls do all the work. Fred's like: I'm getting tired
> watching them, let's go have a smoke in the backyard. So then B and F
> are smoking away in the backyard. My eyes were buggin out of my head,
> No way, man! I couldn't believe it. Did they sell Gerber baby foods
> with nicotine added? It's digestable!
>
Hard to believe such chauvinism existed in such an enlightened time
as the 1960s. But, I think there was another commercial for Winstons in
which Wilma and Betty relaxed and smoked while Fred and Barney did all
the work. With regard to your eyes buggin' out of your head over Wilma
and Betty doing all the work while Fred and Barney are off to smoke in
the backyard, have you seen any of the Flintstone cartoons on Boomerang
which feature the original closer? Fred's getting ready for bed, goes
to place a cloth over the bird to keep him quiet during the night and
in the background, you see Wilma fast asleep. What's unusual is Wilma
has no mouth -- the cartoonists apparently or intentionally forgot to
give her one. Subliminal message there?
Gerber baby foods with nicotine added? Shh, keep that idea quiet,
Kaboomie. The tobacco industry might decide that's an idea worth trying
for future customers.
Re: And the winner is:
> **No, I never watch awards shows. Though, if I know certain people are
> going to be on it, I might surf through it more often.
>
I'm the same way...someone has to be on, who I want to see. With
music awards, it seems like the same people are nominated every year
with the same people winning the same awards and having the same
rehearsed shocked look on their faces ("Oh my god, I won! I didn't
expect this, no, really, I didn't! - yeah, right). I don't expect the
music awards to have surprise guests, so I don't ever expect to see
ABBA turn up unexpectedly -- if you can't get them to appear together
for a concert or new recording, one shouldn't expect to see them on the
Grammy awards or the American Music Awards.
Re: Fitting In:
> **You're right. I like Lohan though, I do think she's talented but I
> feel like she's really trying to fit way too much in right now.
True but her opportunities for fitting in may never be better than
what they are now. By the year 2007, she could be that year's
equivalent of Debbie Gibson. Gibson was talented, still is in my book
but her managers went into overdrive trying to promote her as a teen
idol and making her fit in but they ended up killing her musical career
instead. As a songwriter, Gibson could've been a modern day Carole
King, which is what she and her managers should've been focused on
doing.
Arnold Gallagher
> finally admits to 'faulty' (more like ignored) intelligence and there
> were actually some Americans who said: Hey, he's okay now! I
How DARE he fail to ignore intelligence that Clinton insisted on acting
upon!