I did Korg D8 backup on PC harddisk
Peter....@ptb.de
I found out how to make a backup of a Korg D8 song on my PC's harddisc:
I used the backup procedure described in the Korg manual, but instead of a DAT
recorder I used a digital in/out card, the prodif 24, a german card with
electrical and optical S/PDIF and AES/AEBU. This card is simply capable of
taking a stereo digital stream and pass it to the ISA Bus. Then I recorded
everything that was sent by the Korg D8 during backup through the optical out
connected to the optical in of my prodif 24 with Cool Edit.
I learned about the backup format Korg is using: For some seconds, a 1
khz-frequency with an amplitude of +/- 4096 is the introducing sequence, then
comes some Korg D8 internal data (ID) and then come pairwise the pure audio
information A1 to A8 for all eight tracks with an initial spike (S) at the
zero time position. It looks like that in Cool Edit:
---1kHz---IF--S--A1(left)---S--A3(left)---S--A5(left)---S--A7(left)
---1kHz---IF--S--A2(right)--S--A4(right)--S--A6(right)--S--A8(right)
And, another good message: The audio information can be played from Cool
Edit, it is just normal wave format, 16 bit stereo. So, with cut and paste a
little bit, it is easy to transport the eight tracks into a sequencer like
cubase vst or logic audio because the time synchronisation is clear (thanks
to the spikes...) If someone is interested in audio programming, a converter
tool from a Korg backup format to a cubase vst format should be not that
difficult... I then followed the Korg manual information on restoring. I
played the recorded data back from Cool Edit as a wave file using the optical
digital out of the prodif connected to the optical digital in of the Korg
(BTW, why are optical fibres THAT expensive...), and the song was restored on
the Korg D8 at another position and song number. It works perfect. For the
future, I will burn the Korg D8 backup data on a CD-R and then play it back
directly from a cheap Sony XE 210 CD-player with optical S/PDIF out, so you
don't have to mess around with computers when you're deep in music... A
complete backup of a Korg D8 internal harddisc should fill two CD-R and will
have total costs of about three dollars...Sometimes things come to a good
end..
Any questions and comments are welcome
Peter
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Thanks for the tip. I'm doing backup to DAT right now (for lack of any other
means), but I'll keep this on file should any new hardware happen to appear in
my studio.
Doug
Peter....@ptb.de wrote in message <73bv5v$o7g$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Dear Korg D8 owners (wherever you may be...)
>
Wow, this is exactly what I'm looking to do. I'm waiting for Turtle Beach to
come out with their s/pdif expansion card for the Montego. I want to be able
to "bounce" tracks back and forthe to and from the D8 and be able to edit
them inside my computer. Eventually I'll write them to my Yamaha 4260 cdrw.
The D8 is a 16 bit machine and the Montego is 18 bit so I'm wondering if I
have to do any kind of conversion. Also, I was wondering if you could use
the SCSI port on the D8 in a chain with the computer and use a common SCSI
hard drive to transfer files back and forthe.
Doug in KC
bae...@my-dejanews.com
"Doug" <dbo...@sound.net> wrote:
> I'm waiting for Turtle Beach to
> come out with their s/pdif expansion card for the Montego. I want to be able
> to "bounce" tracks back and forthe to and from the D8 and be able to edit
> them inside my computer. Eventually I'll write them to my Yamaha 4260 cdrw.
> The D8 is a 16 bit machine and the Montego is 18 bit so I'm wondering if I
> have to do any kind of conversion. Also, I was wondering if you could use
> the SCSI port on the D8 in a chain with the computer and use a common SCSI
> hard drive to transfer files back and forthe.
>
> Doug in KC
>
>
Dear Doug, as far as I understood things, the Korg uses SCSI hard drives, but
with his own format, that a computer cannot read...So you have to format a
SCSI hard disc before the Korg can use it, but then it is lost for your
computer... No chances for a chain of D8 and PC. So I am afraid, that the
only possibility to play files forth and back digitally from Korg D8 to PC is
to use a digital in/out card and go through the optical S/PDIF. But be aware,
the card has to record/play a digital stream with no losses, something the
DREAM chip based cards like Terratec EWS, Guillemot home studio and Hoontech
CANNOT. See for this item the volume 12/96 of the KEYS journal in germany.
Does the Montego have optical S/PDIF?? As far as I remember, it has only
electrical connectors, maybe you have to buy a S/PDIF converter like the
midiman CO2. And don't be afraid about the bit numbers of 16 or 18. The
Montego samples audio with 18 bit resolution of the DA converter, but passes
the information in the 16 bit format, so there is no problem. Best wishes
Peter
Doug
>>>
>
>Dear Doug, as far as I understood things, the Korg uses SCSI hard drives,
but
>with his own format, that a computer cannot read...So you have to format a
>SCSI hard disc before the Korg can use it, but then it is lost for your
>computer...
Here's the Comdex news on the S/PDIF I/O card that Turtle Beach announced.
Man, they can't make it soon enough for me. Santa, please bring me one for
Christmas!!!
BTW does anyone know of a newsgroup, website, mailing list for the D8???
http://www.gamecenter.com/News/Item/0,3,0-2283,00.html
"Turtle Beach also announced a Home Studio version of the card, targeted at
musicians and high-end audiophiles, which will include the Montego II and a
second board that features a second wavetable synth (equivalent to Roland's
Sound Canvas) and both optical and RCA digital inputs and outputs. This
package will sell for $299 and will be bundled with Voyetra's Digital
Orchestrator Pro MIDI and digital-audio sequencer. Owners of either the
existing Montego or the Montego II will be able to buy this second board
separately for between $79 and $99. The second board does not require its
own I/O slot."