Thank you Terri
Spezibenn
like them.
Ben
Ticklfreek
>Terri - thank you for posting those fantastic vids on the newsgroup. I really
like them.
>Ben
Ben, I really liked some of them (BOTH the m/f AND the m/m) too, and I do
appreciate the efforts of anyone so... tireless, but this kind of unrelenting
flood is counterproductive...
This has nothing to do with whether or not I like Terri or Terri's' posts -
it's pure pragmatism. When over 170 posts come in less than two days, it
impedes posting activity on the n.g. and inhibits others from contributing.
Terri knows this, but...Considerable intelligence and obsession often go
hand-in-hand, and the latter usually blinds the former...
Listen, homophobia exists here, I know that - I see it. Some people will use
anything to justify that, and attempt to disguise it behind all sorts of
rhetoric - still others won't even try. There's no excuse for intolerance. But
Ben, it's not the content of the posts I have a problem with - it's the
amount...
Some of us don't have killfiles, and to argue that we don't HAVE to look at
every post is specious - FLOODS ARE FLOODS, and by definition their purpose is
to wash everything else away. It's like mind-control - the constant barrage is
numbing...
This is not Terri's personal newsgroup, though she treats it as if it is...when
two days of this n.g.consists of over100 of Terri's posts and LITTLE ELSE, it
makes it damn difficult to simply "ignore"...I'm not arguing against her
posting - she has every right to post here and I hope she continues to do so -
as I say, I really liked some of what she posted quite a bit myself - I'm just
pointing out that some of us wish she'd use a little more restraint and
discretion - not regarding content, just regarding amount...
New King of Swing
would claim that she posts "too much". I don't really understand how her
posting impedes others to post. If it's on-topic, then I fully support her
right to post...even if I don't enjoy the posts.
I just think that it's hypocritical to criticize Terri for posting in
volume, when no such complaint is made against people such as Tom (from
Tom's Adult Tickling page) when he posts his "SBPIX" in large volumes
(Nothing against Tom, but I'm just citing him as an example....I LOVE his
postings and want to see more!! :-)
I don't think people would complain of "volume" if say, KJ posted 200
Renfaire pics of women being tickled. If that happened, the majority of us
would be psyched! But know, the m/m and f/m fans are getting their fill.
Good for them.
Just my worthless 2 cents.....
JJ
Ticklfreek
difference of opinion here...
>but I find it amusing that anyone
>would claim that she posts "too much". I don't really understand how her
>posting impedes others to post.
I'll leave it to someone more "techie" to explain how this can sometimes
crash a newsgroup...I wish someone would - I'm not sure my point's getting
across...Nevertheless, you DO know that other posts get lost in a flood,
especially in a flood this size?
> If it's on-topic, then I fully support her
>right to post...
So do I - which, if you read my post *carefully*, you would have
understood...I DON'T support her abuse of that right...
>I just think that it's hypocritical to criticize Terri for posting in
>volume, when no such complaint is made against people such as Tom (from
>Tom's Adult Tickling page) when he posts his "SBPIX" in large volumes
With all respect, I think the comparison is specious - when, exactly, was the
last time Tom posted over 150 pics - other than to douse a flame war? Besides,
gifs are NOT rm's...
>I don't think people would complain of "volume" if say, KJ posted 200
>Renfaire pics of women being tickled.
No offense to Kujman, but I sure as hell would - politely - if he did it all at
once!
> the m/m and f/m fans are getting their fill.
>Good for them.
<SIGH>
Again, that wasn't my point...
Ticklfreek, an equal-opportunity hedonist...
New King of Swing
Ticklfreek, I apologize if I took the gist of your post incorrectly.
JJ
Ticklfreek wrote in message
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Ticklfreek
No problem, and I DO respect your opinion, JJ, even though I disagree on some
points ...isn't it amazing, though, how Terri can provoke people even when
she's not trying? ;)
>Ticklfreek, I apologize if I took the gist of your post incorrectly.
Thanks JJ, I appreciate that . I've said it a million times - this isn't always
the easiest of ways to get a point across, and I'm not sure I did the best of
jobs - which is frustrating, considering the amount of thought I put into it...
For me to object to the CONTENT of Terri's posts would most *definitely* be
hypocritical, no question - I'm openly bisexual, and not ashamed to admit that!
Again, it's the amount - for reasons I won't belabor...I know how personally
some people take objections to Terri's stuff - both sides have a tendancy to
twist this into a pro- m/m or anti-m/m argument, and that is NOT what my
concerns are about, at all, at all...
I'll admit - as a goth, I have a predisposition toward Terri that may not be
favorable, and that may color my perceptions. What does being goth have to do
with Terri, you may ask? Ah...LONG story...
And in the spirit of fairness, that may be just as big a problem with my ISP
as it is with anything else - AOL's newsgroup format does NOT make it easy to
be discretionary or selective. No one be surprised if they see me post as
Ticklfreek@any ISP OTHER than AOL, soon!
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>I'm not arguing against her
> posting - she has every right to post here and I hope she continues to do so -
> as I say, I really liked some of what she posted quite a bit myself - I'm just
> pointing out that some of us wish she'd use a little more restraint and
> discretion - not regarding content, just regarding amount...
Now, now, Ticklfreek. Terri's been fairly decent - as least she isn't
posting THOUSANDS of groups as a way of saying "I hate so-and-so and I
won't stop until everyone stops bitching at me", or enlightening us with
her half-baked views on music fans and weight.
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FeatherChaser
I hope I don't get too far on your bad side, but, in spite of your
eloquent argument and well-thought out rational perspective,
I would like to point out that even when Terri posted short things by the
thousands, or long things by the few, I have never heard anyone complain
that they couldn't find room to post on this group.
As for the quantity, I can only say that I regret there are not more
hours in the day available to download her posts. When Terry posts, the
size of the files are indeed huge and so require hours to download. But I
will enjoy whatever time is required because it is to difficult to find f/m
and m/m stuff on this group.
Were the argument purely to the eloquent and rational, I would grant you
your due. But sometimes other priorities exist without damage to
rationality and are just as eloquent in their own right.
In the cold light of day, most people complain about Terri because she
is Terri, not because of the size of her files. I love eloquence and
rational perspectives, but I fear they are frequently lost in this group,
but there are signs of a maturing lately.
Please continue to be a voice of reason. I love what you said and how you
said it, but I just wanted to point out that the world creaks along on rusty
hinges and fetish newsgroups will always be just a little outside of the
purely rational mind.
Ticklfreek <tickl...@aol.com.hahaha> wrote in message
news:19990524124451...@ng-ci1.aol.com...
> Approximately ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY posts later...
>
> Ben, I really liked some of them (BOTH the m/f AND the m/m) too, and I do
> appreciate the efforts of anyone so... tireless, but this kind of
unrelenting
> flood is counterproductive...
>
> This has nothing to do with whether or not I like Terri or Terri's'
posts -
> it's pure pragmatism. When over 170 posts come in less than two days, it
> impedes posting activity on the n.g. and inhibits others from
contributing.
> Terri knows this, but...Considerable intelligence and obsession often go
> hand-in-hand, and the latter usually blinds the former...
>
<SNIP>
> ...I'm not arguing against her
Ticklfreek
> I hope I don't get too far on your bad side,
No, not at all! I hope I don't come across as someone who gets pissed off when
people don't agree with him. (Though I fear I may have been a little snarky
with Swing King, something for which I truly apologize). Quite the contrary - I
very much enjoy intelligent, thoughtful debate. I've often found that another
perspective on a given issue provides ME with additional insight into said
issue...this one is no exception, FC . :)
> but, in spite of your eloquent argument and well-thought out rational
perspective,
Flattery WILL get you everywhere. Vain am I? Oh, hell yes!
>even when Terri posted short things by the thousands, or long things by the
few, I have never heard anyone complain that they couldn't find room to post on
this group.
Well, it isn't "room" that concerns me so much as it is the fact that other
posts tend to get washed away - literally - in a flood. You can honestly "stop
up" a newsgroup that way, so to speak...though Terri DOES seem to be exercising
some appreciated restraint right now...
> As for the quantity, I can only say that I regret there are not more hours
in the day available to download her posts... But I will enjoy whatever time is
required because it is to difficult to find f/m and m/m stuff on this group.
I would also probably react alot more favorably if there weren't *so* many
redundancies - files too big to open or multiple identical posts. Terri's too
proud to give anyone else any help - and, apparently, too proud to ask for it
as well...
And you'll get no argument from me about the f/m and m/m stuff - I'd LOVE to
see more! Just not all at once. LOL...Posting methodically, *strategically*,
to balance out the other kinds of posts, just makes more sense to me ... but,
as you say ~
> Were the argument purely to the eloquent and rational, I would grant you
>your due. But sometimes other priorities exist. In the cold light of day,
most people complain about Terri because she is Terri, not because of the size
of her files. I love eloquence and rational perspectives, but I fear they are
frequently lost in this group, but there are signs of a maturing lately.
You know, this is truly an excellent point and I have to admit , if I'm going
to be intellectually honest here, there was a part of me that was irked
*because* it was Terri doing this - I do NOT like admitting that, but, sadly,
it's undeniable. That wasn't my ONLY reason, mind you, but it certainly did
factor in...
I won't go into detail - Terri isn't flaming (she's actually staying remarkably
on-topic) and so I don't want to stoke any embers, either. Suffice it to say
that one could argue Terri's responsible for that monster, and leave it at
that...
>Please continue to be a voice of reason. I love what you said and how you
said it, but I just wanted to point out that the world creaks along on rusty
hinges
Thank you as well, not only for your own eloquence, but for keeping an open
mind about this and not immediately casting aspersions on my motivations - I
truly appreciate that. I don't know how "reasonable" I am, but I do try to see
every side of a given issue. Please understand, Terri's past behavior -
whether one thinks it's justified or not - has made me... wary, to say the
least; when I see her posting in such volume, it sets alarm bells off in my
head...
But, I'm willing to give Terri the benefit of the doubt. I think alot of people
are - I just hope such faith doesn't end up being misplaced...
>and fetish newsgroups will always be just a little outside of the purely
rational mind.
Point taken. Clarity achieved. Too true, and my own hinges certainly groan and
creak as much as any. And I suppose the social anarchist in me will always
want to overthrow the despots and czars, y'know? ;)
Ticklfreek, an equal-opportunity hedonist...