charm = good bs?
hurt
hey... i heard somewhere that if you raise charm it'll add more to
your bs/stealth.. i thought maybe on a bard but not somthing like a
mystic or missionary... does anyone know if charm raises your bs or if
its not what really does.. thanks
Kendryll
Yah it does Charm is cool... as much as it sounds stupid it affects almost
everything.. Stealth perception Mag Res Martial Arts..... In my opinion
its one of the most underrated stat in the game ,, its a good stat to
have...s
Mark Rossi
hurt (ric...@offpro.net) wrote:
Can effects all your stats, in some goofy little way which nobody
can exactly pinpoint.... from my experience unless your a bard or someone
who cant afford items, dont worry about putting to many CP's into
charm....
: hey... i heard somewhere that if you raise charm it'll add more
:
JOxenre189
not sure about higher bs, but I know it helps stealth more than intelect
does, not a great amount but does help more.
Brad Farrell
It does raise your stealth as well as a few other secondary skills as well
as invisble AC, so in turn it raises your bs, maybe 1 damage per 5 or so,
strickly because it raises ya stealth and that is 1 of the major components
of the damage calculation of a backstab. This would apply for all classes
that have stealth.
hurt <ric...@offpro.net> wrote in article
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Signal Sustain
Would charm help a level 22 dwarf/paladin?
Kendryll
In my opinion charm helps out just about all chars,, even a paladin if you
are out of things to put stats on .. they are nice.. your crits would go
up becaiuse martial arts goes up... and from what I have tried it also
affects how much your spells succeed because it is a luck based stat.. it
aint as powerful as any ONE stat but it does a little bit on each stat so
its cool.
Net Wt 9oz
I upped my charm to 100 then used the bard bug the rest of my stats to
about normal...
I hit more,
I BSed higher,
I almost had an unlimited sneak,
I got 6 attacks at lvl 11 with a runecarved staff (none encumb),
i didnt get hit as often.
JOxenre189
I really do believe charm helps everything, so go ahead and put the first
ten pts on. What the hell over the long run you will not miss 10 cps.
Abyssmia
Mark Rossi wrote:
>
> hurt (ric...@offpro.net) wrote:
>
> Can effects all your stats, in some goofy little way which nobody
> can exactly pinpoint.... from my experience unless your a bard or someone
> who cant afford items, dont worry about putting to many CP's into
> charm....
>
> to : your bs/stealth.. i thought maybe on a bard but not somthing like a
> : mystic or missionary... does anyone know if charm raises your bs or if
> : its not what really does.. thanks
Out of my 2 chars, a mystic and a ranger, one has higher charm and i
definitely notice that the one w/higher charm gets hit w/less
frequency. Also, as Brad pointed out, charm adds to invisible AC in
this manner. Even the authors of the game explain in grand detail the
signifigance of having higher levels of charm than is ordinary.
Both my chars have decent charm and both are high dammage when it comes
to BS's. Mite be a good example of what do with a spare 1 CP when ya
level :)
Abyssmia
Guardian Angel
Well, one thing good about charm, for sure! If you like to travel in a
group, and you are not as tough as the others, get some charm. Critters
are much nicer when it comes to hitting 'charming' folks. My 57 charm,
level 27 priest likes to wander around with ugly ol' Flipper, a sad and
ugly level 23 druid, and even when he is backrank, as he usually is,
(heheh) I am constantly healing the poor slob. But he's an excellent
pack mule! ;)
Mark Rossi
Kendryll (kend...@aol.com) wrote:
It might be one of the most underrated stat but thats for a good reason,
when people spend hours and hours, (sometimes days/weeks) leveling, they
want to see a MAJOR improvement when they increase stats, and with most
stats you tend to notice a performance difference, but when you raise
charm that difference isnt as great as if u where to rais agility...
: Yah it does Charm is cool... as much as it sounds stupid it affects almost
:
Kay Lemon
Guido wrote:
>
> JOxenre189 <joxen...@aol.com> wrote in article
> <19970103145...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> > I really do believe charm helps everything, so go ahead and put the
> first
> > ten pts on. What the hell over the long run you will not miss 10 cps.
>
> Intellect 20% and Charm is 10% of determining stealth. Also charm is a SC
> for bards...and You are less likely to be attacking in a group with a
> higher charm. Thats what I've found so far with it. Its not to be
> overlooked... All ya Ugly Half-Ogres out there! heheheh
>
> Guido
> Lvl 17 Thief
> 50 Charm
> 96 Agility
> 45 Intellect
> 102 Stealth
>
<nod> We tested it out by rerolling bunches on our board. Charm
increased Stealth, Lockpicks, thievery even!, and martial arts. Level 1
warrior with 75 charm had a martial arts of 10 (I'm used to 2 or 4).
Another thing too, we did the bard bug to one of our ninjas, and
discovered his Martial Arts/Tracking/Stealth went up with Wisdom! Noone
ever mentions this on here. Wisdom is worth more than just Magic Resist
THOMAS E BEYMER
mtc...@aol.com (MTChen) wrote:
>Can some just explain how to use the bard bug? Because were running a old
>version of MUD and i wanna try it out :)
Well, first you need a bard with songs to increase and decrease a
specific stat (strength,intellect,wisdom,agility).
Have the bard sing the song to decrease the stat, then sing the song
to increase the stat. What will happen is the decrease song will drop
that stat 5 points and the increase stat will raise it 10 points. If
you look at your stats after this, you will see that the stat is red
and has a * beside it, indicating that the change is temporary, but
because of the bug, the stat never returns to normal. Keep singing the
songs and the stat will slowly increase to whatever you want.
MTChen
MTChen
Does the Bard Bug work in 1.1d? its old but i think it should work right?
Signal Sustain
THOMAS E BEYMER wrote:
>
> mtc...@aol.com (MTChen) wrote:
>
> >Can some just explain how to use the bard bug? Because were running a old
> >version of MUD and i wanna try it out :)
>
> specific stat (strength,intellect,wisdom,agility).
>
> Have the bard sing the song to decrease the stat, then sing the song
> to increase the stat. What will happen is the decrease song will drop
> that stat 5 points and the increase stat will raise it 10 points. If
> you look at your stats after this, you will see that the stat is red
> and has a * beside it, indicating that the change is temporary, but
> because of the bug, the stat never returns to normal. Keep singing the
> songs and the stat will slowly increase to whatever you want.
Ack! That doesn't work on my board!! Whenever I down the stat by 5 and
up it, it just balances out. Any suggestions?
Abyssmia
This is *really* good information - good detective work!
Abyssmia
Kay Lemon
I'm running 1.1f now and the bard bug works fine. When you cast weak on
someone, it says to them "you feel weak", when you then cast mite on
them, it will tell them "you return to normal" ...altho it says you are
normal, your stats will be red with an asterisk next to them and will
remain that way.
Heh, btw, I do not think the Bard Bug is cheating..hell, it added some
enjoyment to the game! Since any gang can have a bard in it and up him
to Lev 8 (8 is needed to do all 4 possible stats), it's somewhat fair.
And any bard with the right spells can chase around a 'bugged' character
and force a stat to 115 (especially easy if they are already at 110)
makeing them reset next time they log off. Hehehe, makes for an
interesting match when my gang fights another and their characters are
running from me cuz I'm a bard <eg> while we hope to chase theirs down
before he gets us ;) I hate rebugging someone back up to max stats, so
we're rather emphatic about not lettin another bard get to lev 8.
Anyway, my 2 cents. I like the Bard Bug...it's fun
Chiv Lev 8 Bard
Riven Lev 7 Cleric..and growing
Benny Ledet
Kay Lemon wrote:
> > Ack! That doesn't work on my board!! Whenever I down the stat by 5 and
> > up it, it just balances out. Any suggestions?
>
> I'm running 1.1f now and the bard bug works fine. When you cast weak on
> someone, it says to them "you feel weak", when you then cast mite on
> them, it will tell them "you return to normal" ...altho it says you are
> normal, your stats will be red with an asterisk next to them and will
> remain that way.
>
> Heh, btw, I do not think the Bard Bug is cheating..hell, it added some
> enjoyment to the game! Since any gang can have a bard in it and up him
> to Lev 8 (8 is needed to do all 4 possible stats), it's somewhat fair.
> And any bard with the right spells can chase around a 'bugged' character
> and force a stat to 115 (especially easy if they are already at 110)
> makeing them reset next time they log off. Hehehe, makes for an
> interesting match when my gang fights another and their characters are
> running from me cuz I'm a bard <eg> while we hope to chase theirs down
> before he gets us ;) I hate rebugging someone back up to max stats, so
> we're rather emphatic about not lettin another bard get to lev 8.
> Anyway, my 2 cents. I like the Bard Bug...it's fun
>
> Chiv Lev 8 Bard
> Riven Lev 7 Cleric..and growing
Ok, thanks alot for the info!! When I get mite cast on me, it says, "You feel
powerful!" and when I get weakness cast on me it says "You feel weak!" (or something
like that) When the bard tries to cast weakness on me again he can never do it. He is
level 13 with a good charm (Like 70 I think). Does he just suck or is it impossible?
Kay Lemon
stop where you are! hehehe, our so called 'ninja' needs glasses. Dang
I forgot I put that message there or I would have responded sooner. The
nimrod hadn't realized I'd upped his agility also and got it wrong.
Wisdom is exactly what it always has been...magic res only. My
apologies to anyone who upped their wisdom becuz of that message.
Abyssmia
ah well... it wuz a nice dream while it lasted :) Thx fer reposting.