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Problems Backing up old laptop with DOS

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Geoff Barnard

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Oct 22, 2011, 7:28:51 PM10/22/11
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Hello

First option - how much free space is there on the HD? If there's a
lot, then use archive prog to create big compressed file on HD, then
use SPLIT or suchlike to break up archive into 95Mb bits to put onto
ZIP drive, and reconstitute archive later.

Otherwise, I'd guess ARJ your best bet. Version I have does not have
-hm! option, so I don't know what that is. -r option is OK. In my
info, -v option should be -v95000000, i don't know about -v95M variant.
Otherwise there's a -va option which auto detects space available on
destination drive. From what you say, ARJ is not interpreting the -v95M
parameter correctly and is defaulting to 1.4Mb floppy instead.

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Geoff

Geoff Barnard

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Oct 22, 2011, 7:28:51 PM10/22/11
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Hello

Further to earlier message....

Just spent about an hour of my life watching ARJ do it's bit.

I ran my C: to ZIP disk using the -va option.

C: had 4228 files comprising 63.7 Mb

Result, an .arj file on ZIP disk of 30.5 Mb, process completed fine,
although disk swap process not required. I suggest you try that and
see what happens.

Hopefully, you'll do yourself a floppy boot disk etc so you've got
DOS, Guest etc and ARJ (etc) so you can restore.

Computer Nerd Kev

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Oct 23, 2011, 3:15:47 AM10/23/11
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Thank's for your help although I ended up using the included DOS
5 backup program suggested earlier.

On 23 Oct 2011, Geoff Barnard wrote:

> First option - how much free space is there on the HD? If
> there's a lot, then use archive prog to create big
> compressed file on HD, then use SPLIT or suchlike to break
> up archive into 95Mb bits to put onto ZIP drive, and
> reconstitute archive later.

10-20MB HDD space left so this isn't really an option.

> Otherwise, I'd guess ARJ your best bet. Version I have
> does not have -hm! option, so I don't know what that is.
> -r option is OK. In my info, -v option should be
> -v95000000, i don't know about -v95M variant. Otherwise
> there's a -va option which auto detects space available on
> destination drive. From what you say, ARJ is not
> interpreting the -v95M parameter correctly and is
> defaulting to 1.4Mb floppy instead.

I was using ARJ V 2.85 for which these commands are listed in
the documentation. -hm! indicating for it to use XMS memory, and
the M modifier doing as it indicates. However I tried not using
XMS, typing 95000000, using -va and many other combinations all
with the same result.

By the way, in my newsreader your messages are appearing as new
posts rather than relpies.
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Computer Nerd Kev

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Oct 23, 2011, 7:16:07 AM10/23/11
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On 23 Oct 2011, Geoff Barnard wrote:

Well I've found the problem, sort of.

I tried ARJ again and was amazed to find that it worked as it
should, however when I tried running it of the boot disk I had
used before, it went back to stopping as it had before. As the
commands I used in both cases were the same, I think the boot
floppy must be the problem, however how this could be I don't
know.

Todd Vargo

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Oct 23, 2011, 10:07:01 PM10/23/11
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Maybe ARJ creates the archive or a temporary file on the boot drive or the
current directory. Check if the floppy is write protected. Even if not, if
ARJ is creating a file on the floppy, it may be stopping because there is
not enough free space.

Computer Nerd Kev

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Oct 24, 2011, 5:31:04 PM10/24/11
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On 24 Oct 2011, Todd Vargo wrote:

> Maybe ARJ creates the archive or a temporary file on the
> boot drive or the current directory. Check if the floppy is
> write protected. Even if not, if ARJ is creating a file on
> the floppy, it may be stopping because there is not enough
> free space.

I think the problem was in how I had the memory set up,
however I think I'll stop playing around with ARJ because
after the last try it (or the zip driver or...) somehow
corrupted one of my main directories. Now I'll have to go
through all this again.

Hints on any way to recover the directory? I've only tried
TestDisk.

Todd Vargo

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Oct 24, 2011, 6:32:47 PM10/24/11
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Google is your friend.

Computer Nerd Kev

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Oct 25, 2011, 5:16:59 PM10/25/11
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On 25 Oct 2011, Todd Vargo wrote:

> Google is your friend.

If Google's my friend then search terms must be my enemy. Oh
well, this is after all why I saved a backup of the HDD in it's
original state.

Klaus Meinhard

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Oct 26, 2011, 6:43:02 AM10/26/11
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Hallo Computer Nerd Kev,

> Hints on any way to recover the directory? I've only tried
> TestDisk.

The reason you haven't got much useful advice for this is that you
haven't given enough information to go on. How was "one of your main
directories" corrupted? Were the file names scrambled? Were the files
not found when you tried to open them?

You probably have a vesrion of CHKDSK.ERXE on your MS-DOS 5 (?)
machine. That should be the first step. Use it to repair your disk.

Best regards,

* Klaus Meinhard *
<www.4dos.info>

Todd Vargo

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Oct 27, 2011, 10:47:01 PM10/27/11
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Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> On 25 Oct 2011, Todd Vargo wrote:
>
>> Google is your friend.
>
> If Google's my friend then search terms must be my enemy. Oh
> well, this is after all why I saved a backup of the HDD in it's
> original state.

Try using data recovery in your search terms. If the FS/directory structure
was damaged, hopefully your backup is a byte for byte disk image and not
just a compressed file of whatever files were readable.

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