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Rose pregnant with Jack's child?

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Claire

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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What if this really happened?! How different would it be?

H²4

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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Claire wrote in message <364DEB...@yahoo.com>...

>What if this really happened?! How different would it be?

Would be no different since it would still be fiction. How about Monica
being pregnant with Bubba's child? That's closer to reality.

W Scott

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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If this had happened, IMO the romance of the story would not have been the
same, because Old Rose would not be telling the story for the first time. I
don't think she would have been able to keep her memories of what happened
on Titanic a secret with a child probing her as to his/her roots. Unless,
of course, she had the child adopted, then this could have added to the
sadness of the storyline.

Also if she did keep the child, she may well have not married and the
grand-daughter who accompanied her onto the Keldysh would have been Jack's
grand-daughter too.


How would she know this was Jack's baby? After all, she probably slept with
Cal too. Hey, this could be a whole new film!;-)

Wendy

GinaDuffey

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Nov 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/16/98
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"H˛4" wrote:

> Claire wrote in message <364DEB...@yahoo.com>...
> >What if this really happened?! How different would it be?
>

> Would be no different since it would still be fiction. How about Monica
> being pregnant with Bubba's child? That's closer to reality.

The only thing "Bubba" (lol) could have gotten pregnant is Monica's dress!!


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Kay M

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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Wendy wrote in message +ADw-72nirr+ACQ-n5q+ACQ-1+AEA-newsreader1.core.theplanet.net+AD4-...
+AD4-If this had happened, IMO the romance of the story would not have been the
+AD4-same, because Old Rose would not be telling the story for the first time.
I +AD4-don't think she would have been able to keep her memories of what
happened +AD4-on Titanic a secret with a child probing her as to his/her roots.
+AD4-
+AD4-Also if she did keep the child, she may well have not married and the
+AD4-grand-daughter who accompanied her onto the Keldysh would have been Jack's
+AD4-grand-daughter too.


And how could a young woman in the early part of the century with an
illegitimate child manage to become an actress, learn to fly, ride astride
on the beach and ride on the rollercoaster till she was sick.
I'm not sure this would have fitted in.. it would have made Rose's life sad
and hard instead of joyous and wideranging.

I can't think it would have been at all romantic for Rose to have had Jack's
baby - just difficult.
+AD4-
+AD4-How would she know this was Jack's baby? After all, she probably slept
with
+AD4-Cal too. Hey, this could be a whole new film+ACEAOw--)

This has been the subject of earlier discussion and seems a bit of a
contentious point. Personally I think she did sleep with Cal too. That I
think was the import of the scene where he gave her the necklace, and said
he would deny her nothing, if she would not deny him (followed by meaningful
fadeout). Other points which strike me ... they are of course open to
interpretation... Cal's remark +ACI-you are my wife in practice if not yet in
law+ACI- and her lack of apprehension during the scene with jack in the back of
the car. So I tend to agree with Wendy that there would be too much
uncertainty about whose child it was.

Regards,

Kay M
Only ever make new mistakes

Jane Lumley

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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>
>And how could a young woman in the early part of the century with an
>illegitimate child manage to become an actress, learn to fly, ride astride
>on the beach and ride on the rollercoaster till she was sick.
>I'm not sure this would have fitted in.. it would have made Rose's life sad
>and hard instead of joyous and wideranging.

What a charming view of maternity. I think rose's achievements wre so
improbable anyway that one might as well add a child.
--
Jane Lumley

H²4

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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Claire wrote in message <364DEB...@yahoo.com>...
>What if this really happened?! How different would it be?

Then the question would be "Was it Really Jack's, or Lovejoy's?"

Lord_C...@webtv.net

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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>>What if this really happened?! How different
>>would it be?
>Would be no different since it would still be
>fiction. How about Monica being pregnant with
>Bubba's child? That's closer to reality.

Reality? They didn’t have sexual intercourse but you’re probably a
republican since you are calling the president "bubba" but republicans
still believe you can get pregnant from reading Playboy..I guess
you’re still pissed off from the elections so i’ll let it slide this
time...What a TITANIC victory it was for me...YEE HAAA!!!

DDaedalus

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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H²4 wrote in message ...

>Claire wrote in message <364DEB...@yahoo.com>...
>>What if this really happened?! How different would it be?
>
>Then the question would be "Was it Really Jack's, or Lovejoy's?"
>
>

A good point, being that the lab hasn't returned with the DNA sample yet.
But...

Could she have a child by Cal? As I recall, he presented her with a slightly
valuable piece of jewlery, asking her not to deny him. Please note that
money and love certainly appeared identical in the Hockley family. Later, he
said he hoped she would have come to him the previous night, which she spent
with Jack. Seems like the poor guy took his fiancee on a very expensive
romantic cruise only to have her spend every evening with some homeless bum.
Guess he never got nookie (and sounds like this trip was his first ploy to
try).

Rose did say she never spoke of Jack to anyone, until the present day (of
the movie). She had nothing to remember him by, except the long argued over
"Heart of the Ocean" (although it is also a memory of Cal). This lends to
the theory that she and Jack were not together at the "critical" time of the
month required for making babies (Check a medical NG for details on when to
"do it" if you want kids). It's hard to ignore the question of "who's my
daddy?". My vote is that she didn't get pregnant.

All things being equal, or at least close to it by the ending credits, the
story of Rose and Jack was beautiful fiction in which anything could happen.

Except for one thing. The kid wouldn't be Lovejoys. But being this is
fiction, perhaps (if you've seen the thread on the "director's cut" and the
sequel) Cal's child could be... Yucccchhhh!!!!!!

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Len

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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DDaedalus wrote:
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> Could she have a child by Cal? As I recall, he presented her with a slightly
> valuable piece of jewlery, asking her not to deny him.

I think he was referring to love not sex. Remember, 'open your heart
to me, Rose'.

> Please note that
> money and love certainly appeared identical in the Hockley family. Later, he
> said he hoped she would have come to him the previous night, which she spent
> with Jack.

This implied to me that she had come to him many times before because
he was surprised she didn't last night.

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DDaedalus

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Nov 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/25/98
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Ahhh.... Perhaps. I'd still like to think Cal's idea of a good time is a hot
night on Wall Street. Wanna start a thread on Cal as a romantic?

---------ddaedalus
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Apr 19, 2019, 12:54:12 AM4/19/19
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Well the idea in my head is that when Rose and Jack 'did the dirty' in the cab thing she got pregnant with his child. She never liked Cal, so why would she sleep with him. So, back to the real talk, I think Rose got pregnant with Jack and that is how she ended up having a grand daughter, because of the kid she had with Jack obviously.
This makes sense to me ... Thank you: Maddie.
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